Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #28 9/12/2010 - 9/18/2010

[5150monkey]

I'm sorry to be hogging up the board, but I found a longer raw version of the news conference.  Its 27 + minutes long but has SO much more information. 
At the 15 minute mark it starts to make you go hmmmmmmm

http://www.kptv.com/local-video/index.html?grabnetworks_video_id=4339424

[Brandi]

From Oregon Live article:
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/09/kyron_horman_case_as_costs_top.html

Horman disappeared June 4 from Skyline School during a morning science fair. No one has been arrested or even named a person of interest though Terri Moulton Horman, Horman’s stepmother, remains a focus of the investigation.

-- Helen Jung and Lynne Terry

This article says:

"He has spoken with Portland Police, the Port of Portland and expects to draw on the FBI as well as agencies in the East Multnomah County Major Crimes Team, which includes Gresham, Troutdale and Fairview. Staton said he hopes to finalize the task force in the next week."

So I added Gresham to the map:

[4 Donks]

When he stated that they have no evidence that Kyron is not alive indicated to me they do not have a body or a confession but they also do not have evidence that he is alive because there have been no verified sightings of him. I really feel that this is not a very encouraging statement.

[Claycat]

HI MONKEYS!!
Longer version of the Sheriff's news conference, if you haven't seen it yet!


http://videos.oregonlive.com/oregonian/2010/09/highlights_of_news_conference.html

Thanks!

If you want nothing else, watch the very end of this PC.  It's horribly sad.

It is horribly sad, Klaas!   

[AZSunny]

HI MONKEYS!!
Longer version of the Sheriff's news conference, if you haven't seen it yet!


http://videos.oregonlive.com/oregonian/2010/09/highlights_of_news_conference.html

Thanks!

If you want nothing else, watch the very end of this PC.  It's horribly sad.

It is horribly sad, Klaas!   

The possibilities that come to mind, just break my heart.  Such a loving, beautiful child is lost. 

[Puzzler]

I'm very (how do I say it) deflated about the direction this case is going in.  I fear Kyron will never come home. 

I know the feeling.  I've been upset since the LE presser when they presented the manufactured photos.  I "thought" I was so aggravated because they presented pictures that people saw and then turned around and asked for "independent" recollections.

Now, though, I think that I was really upset because - for me - that's when I thought LE was not making any serious headway toward bringing Kyron home.  I was "deflated" at that point.

[Puzzler]

"We have knowledge of things that we wish we didn't."  "Things that we don't want to know about."

   That could mean any number of things, couldn't it?

(Thank you for the nice clear picture, Brandi.)

Welcome. I sure did not like how that ended. He was choked up saying that. And it leaves a very grim image in my mind.

My mind goes to child molestation

A child porn ring comes to my mind 

Unfortunately, that's the first place my mind went as well.

It's not good when LE can say they know of thing they wish they didn't know about.

And talking about goind in so many directions...brings me back to something I said earlier...it seems like whey Kyron went missing it opened a can of worms.

Somehow I feel that the more LE checks into the case, the more they find...not necessarily about where Kyron is...but about what the people surrounding him are involved in or could be involved in. 

[Tracygirl]

"We have knowledge of things that we wish we didn't."  "Things that we don't want to know about."

   That could mean any number of things, couldn't it?

(Thank you for the nice clear picture, Brandi.)

Welcome. I sure did not like how that ended. He was choked up saying that. And it leaves a very grim image in my mind.

My mind goes to child molestation

A child porn ring comes to my mind 

Unfortunately, that's the first place my mind went as well.

It's not good when LE can say they know of thing they wish they didn't know about.

And talking about goind in so many directions...brings me back to something I said earlier...it seems like whey Kyron went missing it opened a can of worms.

Somehow I feel that the more LE checks into the case, the more they find...not necessarily about where Kyron is...but about what the people surrounding him are involved in or could be involved in. 

I agree with this statement. I believe it will be the scope of the investigation that will shock people. This is heartbreaking.
Poor little boy, please God allow him to be found

[doubledecker]

sorry to butt in.... but did anyone happen to see this and get a copy of it before it poofed... this is all that someone got and it is gone now.. it was on craigslist... also that link does not work but that is all they have.


Kyron Horman: Police Had Teacher Confession Before Divers At Sauvies
16 hours ago - Nothing maybe as it seems in the Kyron Horman case! Did you know that police had a confession by someone who works at the Skyline school before that Sauvies ...
portland.craigslist.org/mlt/com/1954851067.html

[Tamikosmom]

Sheriff: Kyron Horman case in hands of task force
By David Krough
KGW-TV
updated 2 hours 37 minutes ago

Staton said there had been "significant movements" in the 15-week investigation and there was a more definitive scope, allowing them to not be as broad in their efforts, concentrating on their current course to support a theory of what happened to the boy. He said he had seen no evidence that indicated Kyron was not alive.

When asked if people would be shocked to find out what they know, Staton took a long silence.

"I know I'm taking a long pause on that, I have to think through that answer. I think there are things that come out of this investigation that will surprise you, that you'll think about later on when it's over. We have a knowledge of things we don't want to know about ... of things we wish we didn't know," he added.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39202460/ns/local_news-portland_or/

[Puzzler]

http://www.kgw.com/news/Sheriff-No-evidence-Kyron-Horman-is-not-alive-103003704.html

SNIPPED:

"I know I'm taking a long pause on that, I have to think through that answer. I think there are things that come out of this investigation that will surprise you, that you'll think about later on when it's over. We have a knowledge of things we don't want to know about ... of things we wish we didn't know," he added.

"will surprise you"
"think about later"
"things we dont want to know"
"things we wish we didnt know"

Porn sex ring- would that surprise us? No.

Human trafficking? No.

Kidnapping people for body parts? Yes, that would surprise/shock/horrify me.  That would be something I would think about for a long time. 

Could it be the degree of what they found they wish they didn't know?  Like...how much child trafficking is going on; how many child disappearances in connection with drugs, that it's so much more than they previously knew about.

It really does sound like what they're finding out keeps mushrooming, and not necessarily about where is Kyron, but what everyone around him could be involved in.  I'm not even talking about Kaine/Terri...but others.

[Tamikosmom]

Sheriff to create new task force to refocus Kyron investigation
Share By Steve Benham KATU.com Staff and Anita Kissée KATU News

Story Published: Sep 15, 2010 at 5:24 PM PDT

PORTLAND, Ore. - A new task force will be formed to focus the investigation into the disappearance of 8-year-old Kyron Horman to specific areas and better use police resources, Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton said Wednesday.

Staton said during the afternoon news conference that while the investigation will be narrower, he said it is not scaling back, although he used similar language in his statement.

“We threw everything we possibly could at this (at the beginning of the investigation) because it involved a school and it involved a child,” he said. “We’ve reached a point over the course of this investigation … the information we’ve gathered, resources we’ve dedicated to this, we started looking at every possibility – we’ve narrowed it down to a scope now that is more definitive; it is time to scale this down so that you have, what I would consider, a task force.”

The task force will contain about eight to 10 detectives from various agencies and the move to create that task force was to continue the investigation in a “fiscally responsible” way.

He said the new task force will be officially formed at the end of the week or by earlier next week.

So far the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office has spent $1,044,000 investigating the disappearance of the Skyline School student, Staton said.

He said the move to a task force will enable him to release detectives to their normal duties. He said the investigation has significantly impacted the resources of the sheriff’s office.

“The commitment we have to the community has suffered because of what has been dedicated and how we’ve worked this investigation fluidly,” he said.

He said he wants the task force to contain detectives who have been on the case since the beginning.

When asked whether people would be shocked when this case comes to its conclusion Staton said, “I think that there will be things that come out of this investigation that will surprise you. That you’ll think about later on after it’s over. These are things I will tell you, when you ask me about the stresses that my staff is under and the other detectives and agency representatives are under, is that we have a knowledge of things that we don’t want to know about. ... "We have knowledge of things we wished we didn't."

Staton was clearly upset when he was talking about that and was upset when he was talking about how hard it has been on investigators over the last 15 weeks, saying they have spent a lot of time away from their own families.

The sheriff wasn't fully prepared to talk about the new task force but during a Portland Business Alliance breakfast he let two words slip: task force, which led to Wednesday's news conference to explain what he meant by that.

Staton said investigators have received more than 3,000 leads from the tip line, and they are still working under the premise Kyron is still alive.

http://www.kval.com/news/103005759.html


Video:

http://www.kval.com/news/103005759.html?tab=video

[Tamikosmom]

HI MONKEYS!!
Longer version of the Sheriff's news conference, if you haven't seen it yet!


http://videos.oregonlive.com/oregonian/2010/09/highlights_of_news_conference.html

Thank you 5150monkey.

Good Night Monkeys.

Janet
9:40 PM PT

[Monkey King]

sorry to butt in.... but did anyone happen to see this and get a copy of it before it poofed... this is all that someone got and it is gone now.. it was on craigslist... also that link does not work but that is all they have.


Kyron Horman: Police Had Teacher Confession Before Divers At Sauvies
16 hours ago - Nothing maybe as it seems in the Kyron Horman case! Did you know that police had a confession by someone who works at the Skyline school before that Sauvies ...
portland.craigslist.org/mlt/com/1954851067.html

Thanks for this tidbit, DD.

[Tamikosmom]

Kyron Horman case: As costs top $1 million, sheriff changes investigation strategy
Published: Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 4:51 PM     Updated: Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 8:18 PM

The investigation into Kyron Horman’s disappearance has cost the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office more than $1 million, forcing the agency to change the way it is staffing the case.

Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton said he is pulling back all but two of his detectives and an administrative technician on the case and instead is asking the Portland Police Bureau and other area law enforcement agencies to provide a dedicated detective. He hopes to put together a task force of eight to 10 detectives to continue focusing on the case.

"The numbers are the same but the distribution of resources is much broader," he said in a phone interview Wednesday. "All this information has been compiled, a lot of questions have been answered. We’re now focusing on what we have collected and targeting those areas to help the district attorney’s office to develop a case that they can prosecute successfully."

Staton declined to say whether the investigation is close to an arrest but said the lead investigator briefed him and Multnomah County District Attorney Mike Schrunk on the progress last Friday.

"There was nothing that came out of that presentation that gave me or the district attorney any idea that we’re spinning our wheels or that we’re wasting time ... or allowing it to move into a cold-case scenario," he said, adding that "now we’re in a more confined type of investigation so we’re now able to predict whatever movements we’ll be taking."

He has spoken with Portland Police, the Port of Portland and expects to draw on the FBI as well as agencies in the East Multnomah County Major Crimes Team, which includes Gresham, Troutdale and Fairview. Staton said he hopes to finalize the task force in the next week.

He said at this point, he anticipates seeking only “minimal” — if any — extra funding from Multnomah County Commissioners. He said his department has been absorbing the costs through scaling back in some areas and reassigning people from its felony-warrant unit, crimes against people and property and special-investigations unit which pursues many drug-related crimes. But the office cannot continue to do that, he said.

"We’ve done well, but the threshold has been reached and we need to look at a more effective way to do it,” he said of the investigation, which is the costliest in the sheriff’s office history at about $1,044,000.

At a 4 p.m. news conference, he stressed that the task force is the "fiscally responsible" strategy for continuing the investigation and bringing it to a conclusion.

"We’ve reached point where if we don't go to a task force model, this is going to critically affect the services that we provide to the community

Staton said he has not yet talked with Kyron Horman’s parents, Kaine Horman and Desiree Young, about the change in staffing. But he said “the investigation is losing nothing.”

At the news conference, Staton also expressed frustration at some of the 3,000-plus tips that have been called in to investigators. Vague tips such as to check "a wooded area" take investigator's time to listen to and catalog. He added that criticism at the pace of the investigation also has been disheartening, adding that detectives don't want to jeopardize the investigation by sharing information with the public. 

Schrunk, whose office is helping with the reorganization, said investigators are prepared for a long-haul.

"There is no one standing there with a smoking gun," Schrunk said in a telephone interview. "You’ve got nearly 4,000 different leads. This is not one where the investigation and prosecution all occurs in 60 minutes" like a television program.

But the county fully expects a conclusion.

"We are going to try this case," Schrunk said.
 
Horman disappeared June 4 from Skyline School during a morning science fair. No one has been arrested or even named a person of interest though Terri Moulton Horman, Horman’s stepmother, remains a focus of the investigation.

Video:
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/09/kyron_horman_case_as_costs_top.html
 

[Puzzler]

HI MONKEYS!!
Longer version of the Sheriff's news conference, if you haven't seen it yet!


http://videos.oregonlive.com/oregonian/2010/09/highlights_of_news_conference.html

Thanks!

If you want nothing else, watch the very end of this PC.  It's horribly sad.

It is horribly sad, Klaas!   

Literally gave me cold chills...

[Puzzler]

Stanton 'suggested a number of other cases were likely to result from the investigation.'

[link to www.portlandtribune.com]

[O4Bull]

sorry to butt in.... but did anyone happen to see this and get a copy of it before it poofed... this is all that someone got and it is gone now.. it was on craigslist... also that link does not work but that is all they have.


Kyron Horman: Police Had Teacher Confession Before Divers At Sauvies
16 hours ago - Nothing maybe as it seems in the Kyron Horman case! Did you know that police had a confession by someone who works at the Skyline school before that Sauvies ...
portland.craigslist.org/mlt/com/1954851067.html

Kyron Horman: Police Had Teacher Confession Before Divers At Sauvies
18 hours ago - Reply to: comm-4bymf-1954851067@craigslist.org. Nothing maybe as it seems in the Kyron Horman case! Did you know that police had a confession by someone who works at the Skyline school before that Sauvies Island ... with Caesar Chavez the narco king of portland who paid off the city to rename 39th street after him. ...
portland.craigslist.org/mlt/com/1954851067.html

[Monkey King]

Stanton 'suggested a number of other cases were likely to result from the investigation.'

[link to www.portlandtribune.com]

Do we have any stats of missing people of missing persons in the Portland area?

[Monkey King]

Gosh, who talks like that??

Do we have any stats of missing people in the Portland area?