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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 -
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Quote from: klaasend on September 21, 2010, 10:11:50 PM
Steph Watts reminds me of someone, I kept trying to figure out who then it came to me. The Lollypop Kids!
Sure did sound like one.
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Quote from: San on September 21, 2010, 10:33:09 PM
Quote from: klaasend on September 21, 2010, 10:11:50 PM
Steph Watts reminds me of someone, I kept trying to figure out who then it came to me. The Lollypop Kids!
Sure did sound like one.
Ain't that the truth!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: texasmom on September 21, 2010, 10:40:55 PM
Quote from: San on September 21, 2010, 10:33:09 PM
Quote from: klaasend on September 21, 2010, 10:11:50 PM
Steph Watts reminds me of someone, I kept trying to figure out who then it came to me. The Lollypop Kids!
Sure did sound like one.
Ain't that the truth!
I thought a while back that he was a she....Magnolia straighened me out, but I'm not sure about him.
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This may have been posted before. I came across it not long ago and didn't recall ever seeing it.
http://www.antilliaansdagblad.com/
January 11, 2006 edition
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on September 21, 2010, 10:45:18 PM
Quote from: texasmom on September 21, 2010, 10:40:55 PM
Quote from: San on September 21, 2010, 10:33:09 PM
Quote from: klaasend on September 21, 2010, 10:11:50 PM
Steph Watts reminds me of someone, I kept trying to figure out who then it came to me. The Lollypop Kids!
Sure did sound like one.
Ain't that the truth!
I thought a while back that he was a she....Magnolia straighened me out, but I'm not sure about him.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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She looks like she sucked on a lemon
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Quote from: klaasend on September 21, 2010, 10:54:10 PM
She looks like she sucked on a lemon
She is a lemon.
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Quote from: San on September 21, 2010, 09:25:11 PM
Quote from: Dana on September 21, 2010, 08:44:31 PM
Quote from: can on September 21, 2010, 08:41:56 PM
Dana,
I'd like to listen tonight. Could you please post a link for tonight's show?
Ty.
well it looks like we will have to leave comments till thursday nights show @ 9pm et
not much interest in doing anything tonight
I started a thread for questions to ask Dana on Thursday's show. Now we know all questions might not be answered but it's good to have a list. Not everyone likes to call in because of nerves.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8604.0
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http://www.diario.aw/2010/09/ministerio-publico-y-polis-por-tin-contacto-cu-beth-twitty-y-pa-esey-no-mester-tin-permiso-di-minister-di-husticia/
Papiamentu translation:
ministerio publico y police can have contacto cu beth twitty y before esey not have to have permission by minister by husticia
publication: tuesday, 21 september 2010.
categoria: general investigacion is andando for by time cu natalee holloway owing to disparce
oranjestad (aan): yesterday during one rueda by prensa owing to ask minister arthur dowers if was have cualkier palabracion among ministerio publico y peter r d vries before thing is the caso natalee holloway, this mirando the visit by the person here at aruba acompaña before beth twitty, mam by holloway. manner is conoci, de vries y twitty was at peru y owing to come into in the gaol caminda joran van der sloot is close.
after by esey, they owing to arrive aruba diabierna happen.
on the question by prensa, the mandatario owing to allow know cu the do not at altitude by if was have some palabracion. at the netherlands past owing to hear cu the hendenan here was biniendo aruba but if was have palabracion together cu the investigadornan by fbi, the not know nothing concreto on esey. near by this owing to señala cu do not necesario before minister by husticia aproba in cuadro by one investigacion cualkier cooperacion among ministerio publico y one person.
the is bay ask more informacion on this y hour cu the have more detayenan the will trece this fast before give one splicacion more amplio, owing to say.
the investigacion is andando for by time cu natalee holloway owing to disparce. in the cuadro ey ministerio publico y cuerpo policial can have contacto cu beth twitty y before esey not have to have permission by minister by husticia, owing to enfatiza.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 -
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Hello all
Sorry I have not been around lately but have been very under the weather. However, I would get off my death bed and comment on the BS that I heard on the Steph Watts amateur hour. What a sad pathetic excuse for a human being. No wonder he got canned from the MSM.
I don't know what is worse, his radio voice or his inept skills of interviewing.
Let me just say that listening to Dana Pretzer is a joy.
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Quote from: Red on September 21, 2010, 11:47:38 PM
Hello all
Sorry I have not been around lately but have been very under the weather. However, I would get off my death bed and comment on the BS that I heard on the Steph Watts amateur hour. What a sad pathetic excuse for a human being. No wonder he got canned from the MSM.
I don't know what is worse, his radio voice or his inept skills of interviewing.
Let me just say that listening to Dana Pretzer is a joy.
We all know Steph Watts is a real tool, I think the big disappointment is in Tim Miller.
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Quote from: klaasend on September 21, 2010, 11:49:48 PM
Quote from: Red on September 21, 2010, 11:47:38 PM
Hello all
Sorry I have not been around lately but have been very under the weather. However, I would get off my death bed and comment on the BS that I heard on the Steph Watts amateur hour. What a sad pathetic excuse for a human being. No wonder he got canned from the MSM.
I don't know what is worse, his radio voice or his inept skills of interviewing.
Let me just say that listening to Dana Pretzer is a joy.
Beat me to it!
We all know Steph Watts is a real tool, I think the big disappointment is in Tim Miller.
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Quote from: wreck on September 21, 2010, 11:53:21 PM
Quote from: klaasend on September 21, 2010, 11:49:48 PM
Quote from: Red on September 21, 2010, 11:47:38 PM
Hello all
Sorry I have not been around lately but have been very under the weather. However, I would get off my death bed and comment on the BS that I heard on the Steph Watts amateur hour. What a sad pathetic excuse for a human being. No wonder he got canned from the MSM.
I don't know what is worse, his radio voice or his inept skills of interviewing.
Let me just say that listening to Dana Pretzer is a joy.
We all know Steph Watts is a real tool, I think the big disappointment is in Tim Miller.
Beat me to it!
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Don't you wonder if something was mentioned in the K2 depositions that led Beth to want to go to Peru and Aruba with a real investigative journalist??? Maybe a journalist that spoke both English and Dutch? Hmmmmm....
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 -
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Quote from: Red on September 21, 2010, 11:47:38 PM
Hello all
Sorry I have not been around lately but have been very under the weather. However, I would get off my death bed and comment on the BS that I heard on the Steph Watts amateur hour. What a sad pathetic excuse for a human being. No wonder he got canned from the MSM.
I don't know what is worse, his radio voice or his inept skills of interviewing.
Let me just say that listening to Dana Pretzer is a joy.
I hope you are feeling better soon.
Red ... I could care less about Steph Watt ... Beth bashers are everywhere. However ... Tim Miller falls in an entirely different category. In over five years ... this man has never undermine the mother of Natalee Holloway. Nevertheless ... in this interview ... he upholds Steph's bashing and manages several punches of his own.
Janet
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on September 21, 2010, 02:44:32 PM
Steph Watts - September 20, 2010
"The face to face meeting with Joran van der Sloot? Was it a journey for justice or a mission for money." (para)
"Those who have profited from the murder of Natalee Holloway; the murderer, the media and Natalee's mother." (para)
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/09/20/watts-up-with-this#endframe
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ROUGH UPDATED OVERVIEW
Tim Miller - Seph Watts Interview
September 20, 2010
Beginning
Tim:
- Robin calls re Dave's collapse.
- Talked to Robin several times today.
- Upholds Dave to the nth degree.
- Dave is a great friend ... wishes they had met ten years ago.
- Ongoing praises of Dave.
- Wants Natalee Holloway case to go away ... there are other cases.
23:00
(approx)
Tim:
- Called Dave when news of Stephany's murder broke.
- Beth did not return Tim’s call.
30:00
(approx)
Tim:
- Undermines Beth’s motives regarding the face to face with Joran.
- It is all about the documentary ... not in Natalee’s best intestest.
- Implies that Beth compromised the Aruban investigation.
- Suggests all efforts to get Joran to talk has been damaged.
- Upholds the Aruban investigation.
- FBI and Aruban investigators on the same page.
- Beth failed to make appearances at TES fund raisings.
- Beth is exploiting Natalee‘s disappearance for financial gain.
- Questions credibility of Beth's foundation.
- If Beth wants to make a difference … focus at home.
- Beth is putting money in her own pocket.
- Beth has not financially supported TES
- Upholds Louis Schaeffer role regarding the Persistence search.
- Upholds Aurban Authorities cooperation throughout the search.
- Continues to uphold Dave Holloway.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/09/20/watts-up-with-this#endframe
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 -
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Red, I have NO doubt on Tim's veracity in the beginning. I think he was duped by the Persistence fiasco.
I have no doubt he has now sold out. I am so disappointed and livid. Look at the facts uncovered here at SM and especially Natalee's Freebirds. I don't think anyone can defend what has transpired. I stand with Beth.
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Quote from: klaasend on September 21, 2010, 11:49:48 PM
Quote from: Red on September 21, 2010, 11:47:38 PM
Hello all
Sorry I have not been around lately but have been very under the weather. However, I would get off my death bed and comment on the BS that I heard on the Steph Watts amateur hour. What a sad pathetic excuse for a human being. No wonder he got canned from the MSM.
I don't know what is worse, his radio voice or his inept skills of interviewing.
Let me just say that listening to Dana Pretzer is a joy.
We all know Steph Watts is a real tool, I think the big disappointment is in Tim Miller.
I have listened to this over and over thinking that maybe the next time I listen to it that the words out of Tim Miller's mouth will change. Sadly they do not. I am very disappointed in Tim and honestly being some one who has wanted answers to the disappearance and death of his own daughter, he has a short memory.
I love Tim Miller live a brother; however, he crossed a line and should be ashamed of himself. Maybe Tim would like to one make up his mind whether he thinks Aruba authorities are good or bad and whether he is for or against a boycott. You do not get to change your mind like you change your underwear.
As for Steph Watts ... to borrow and 80's term, what a hoser.
Here is basically my theory and principle I live by when it comes to missing persons and families of missing persons.
I would never criticize a family member for what they do when they are trying to find answers to their daughters death. The grief that a family goes thru is beyond words. I would never pretend to know the grief, however, I have seen it and tried to provide comfort. Who am I to judge Tim Miller or Beth for whatever they did to get answers. I would do the same. Frankly, Beth has used restrain. If it were me I probably would have been jailed.
That being said ... Tim Miller had no right to criticize a fellow member of the sad fraternity of MP's family members. His revisionist history of Aruba is shameful. Sorry buddy, you crossed the line ... get ready for tomorrows post.
BTW, just curious, who forced Tim Miller and TES to go to Aruba? Did some one hold a gun to their head? Now all I hear is whining about the money it cost. ReallY?
I am saddened and shocked by the folks Tim hangs with these days.
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on September 21, 2010, 11:59:17 PM
Quote from: Red on September 21, 2010, 11:47:38 PM
Hello all
Sorry I have not been around lately but have been very under the weather. However, I would get off my death bed and comment on the BS that I heard on the Steph Watts amateur hour. What a sad pathetic excuse for a human being. No wonder he got canned from the MSM.
I don't know what is worse, his radio voice or his inept skills of interviewing.
Let me just say that listening to Dana Pretzer is a joy.
I hope you are feeling better soon.
Red ... I could care less about Steph Watt ... Beth bashers are everywhere. However ... Tim Miller falls in an entirely different category. In over five years ... this man has never undermine the mother of Natalee Holloway. Nevertheless ... in this interview ... he upholds Steph's bashing and manages several punches of his own.
Janet
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on September 21, 2010, 02:44:32 PM
Steph Watts - September 20, 2010
"The face to face meeting with Joran van der Sloot? Was it a journey for justice or a mission for money." (para)
"Those who have profited from the murder of Natalee Holloway; the murderer, the media and Natalee's mother." (para)
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/09/20/watts-up-with-this#endframe
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ROUGH UPDATED OVERVIEW
Tim Miller - Seph Watts Interview
September 20, 2010
Beginning
Tim:
- Robin calls re Dave's collapse.
- Talked to Robin several times today.
- Upholds Dave to the nth degree.
- Dave is a great friend ... wishes they had met ten years ago.
- Ongoing praises of Dave.
- Wants Natalee Holloway case to go away ... there are other cases.
23:00
(approx)
Tim:
- Called Dave when news of Stephany's murder broke.
- Beth did not return Tim’s call.
30:00
(approx)
Tim:
- Undermines Beth’s motives regarding the face to face with Joran.
- It is all about the documentary ... not in Natalee’s best intestest.
- Implies that Beth compromised the Aruban investigation.
- Suggests all efforts to get Joran to talk has been damaged.
- Upholds the Aruban investigation.
- FBI and Aruban investigators on the same page.
- Beth failed to make appearances at TES fund raisings.
- Beth is exploiting Natalee‘s disappearance for financial gain.
- Questions credibility of Beth's foundation.
- If Beth wants to make a difference … focus at home.
- Beth is putting money in her own pocket.
- Beth has not financially supported TES
- Upholds Louis Schaeffer role regarding the Persistence search.
- Upholds Aurban Authorities cooperation throughout the search.
- Continues to uphold Dave Holloway.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/09/20/watts-up-with-this#endframe
Hell, Beth did not return my call either. Should I have gone on Good Morning America and bashed Beth? BTW, Tim didn't return my call either. Those who live in glass houses, eh Tim?
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Quote from: wreck on September 22, 2010, 12:00:12 AM
Red, I have NO doubt on Tim's veracity in the beginning. I think he was duped by the Persistence fiasco.
I have no doubt he has now sold out. I am so disappointed and livid. Look at the facts uncovered here at SM and especially Natalee's Freebirds. I don't think anyone can defend what has transpired. I stand with Beth.
Agreed.
BTW, Steph missed some people who profited from NH, conveniently enough.
Who was the first person to write a book on Natalee's disappearance? Hint: It was not Beth. But that person is different because they are buddy, buddy. BTW, in that book ... nice copyright infringement for not siting the source of Shango.
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Red, I am sure you are aware of the "contributions" John Silvetti (et al) are making to TES to this very day. I'm afraid Tim has been "bought off".
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===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
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