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Author Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 - 9/25/2010  (Read 286692 times)
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« Reply #340 on: September 23, 2010, 01:57:23 PM »

TES needs to do an intervention before they lose even more support.  I know I won't be donating anything until there is a retraction and apology.

And it's a shame as they do so much good work.  But that said, it still doesn't give anybody the right to go on a slandering campaign against a victim's mother.   Nothing does that.
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« Reply #341 on: September 23, 2010, 02:10:46 PM »

What motivation ... what influence was behind such disrespect of Beth Holloway by Steph Watts?

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Steph Watts - September 20, 2010

"The face to face meeting with Joran van der Sloot?  Was it a journey for justice or a mission for money." (para)

"Those who have profited from the murder of Natalee Holloway; the murderer, the media and Natalee's mother." (para)


http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/09/20/watts-up-with-this#endframe


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« Reply #342 on: September 23, 2010, 02:35:36 PM »

My Last Post

the murder, the media s/b the murderer, the media  


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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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« Reply #343 on: September 23, 2010, 02:41:03 PM »

THE LONGITUDE AND LATITUDE OF THESE IPS LEADS TO BEATRIXSTRAAT STREET IN ARUBA.


Domain Name setardsl.aw ? (Aruba)
IP Address 199.0.83.# (SLBH/SETAR ARUBA)
ISP Sprint
Location Continent : South America
Country : Aruba (Facts)
City : Oranjestad
Lat/Long : 12.5167, -70.0333 (Map)

Language English (U.S.)
en-us
Operating System Microsoft Windows Server 2003
Browser Internet Explorer 6.0
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.2; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; InfoPath.1)
Javascript version 1.3
Monitor Resolution : 1024 x 768
Color Depth : 16 bits

Time of Visit Jul 24 2009 2:30:36 pm
Last Page View Jul 24 2009 2:31:33 pm
Visit Length 57 seconds
Page Views 1
Referring URL http://www.google.co...t seen&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
Search Engine google.com

Search Words deepak car last seen
Visit Entry Page http://nataleesfreeb...8_07_01_archive.html
Visit Exit Page http://nataleesfreeb...8_07_01_archive.html
Out Click 4 pic
http://s656.photobuc...nt=Deepakcar-not.png
Time Zone UTC-5:00
Visitor's Time Jul 24 2009 4:30:36 pm
Visit Number 16,682

Domain Name setardsl.aw ? (Aruba)
IP Address 201.229.25.# (Setarnet)
ISP Setarnet
Location
Continent : South America
Country : Aruba (Facts)
City : Oranjestad
Lat/Long : 12.5167, -70.0333 (Map)
Language English (U.S.)
en-us
Operating System Microsoft WinXP
Browser Internet Explorer 7.0
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; GTB6; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)
Javascript version 1.3
Monitor
Resolution : 1680 x 1050
Color Depth : 24 bits
Time of Visit Jun 15 2009 5:46:35 pm
Last Page View Jun 15 2009 5:46:35 pm
Visit Length 0 seconds
Page Views 1
Referring URL
Visit Entry Page http://by115w.bay115...ht.aspx?n=2010030337

Visit Exit Page http://by115w.bay115...ht.aspx?n=2010030337
Out Click
Time Zone UTC-5:00
Visitor's Time Jun 15 2009 5:46:35 pm
Visit Number 18,329,698



The Long and Lat of these IPs is
12.5167, - 70.0333
leads to
Beatrixstraat Street in Aruba.



HERE ARE THE BUSINESS LOCATED ON BEATRIXSTRAAT

Aruba Retail Merchants Association
Abbreviated name: ARMA
Founded: 1983
No. of members: 100
Objectives: to sustain and encourage the adherence to the highest standards of ethics and integrity in the retail business sector, and the subsequent representation of the interests of the retail merchants.
Special activities/events: the promotion of Aruba as a shopping destination.
President of the Board: Peter de Hoop
Address: Beatrixstraat 48, Oranjestad
Phone: (297) 582-2699
Fax: (297) 583-7994
E-mail: eddy@oduber.com


STICHTING GOUVERNEUR MR OLINDO KOOLMAN
Business address BEATRIXSTRAAT 23, ORANJESTAD OOST
Legal form FOUNDATION
Name of the STICHTING GOUVERNEUR MR OLINDO KOOLMAN
company/foundation/association:
Statutory seat ARUBA
Date of 14 APRIL 2004
incorporation/commencement:

GAMMA RESEARCH INC.
Beatrixstraat 43
Aruba
Director Bert Vermaas
Telephone (297)-583 7072
Fax (297)-583 7067
Address Bloemond #7C,
Aruba, Dutch West Indies
E-mail info@asaruba.com
Website www.asaruba.com
Gamma Research Inc. is a dynamic and fast growing company that specializes in software development.
http://tinyurl.com/nok7y2


Lex Holding NV has a registered agent whose firm is located at 38 Beatrixstraat.
(12.5126566,-70.0304091) is lat/long for

38 Beatrixstraat
HBN Law Firm




LEX HOLDING N.V.

Business address BEATRIXSTRAAT 38, ORANJESTAD OOST
Legal form LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Name of the company LEX HOLDING N.V .
Statutory seat ARUBA
Date of incorporation 23 NOVEMBER 2007

Authorized capital</ FONT> ARUBAN FLORINS 50,000.00
Issued capital ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00
Paid up capital ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00
Fiscal year 01 JANUARY thru 31 DECEMBER
NOT IN POSSESION OF A BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENT LICENCE

DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:

SCHWENGLE, MILDRED GABRIELA MARIA;
Residing in CUMANA 101-I, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA
Born in THE NETHERLANDS, ROTTERDAM on 26 NOVEMBER 1964
Nationality DUTCH
Position MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective 23 NOVEMBER 2007
Authority FULL


Oomen & Offringa - KALPOES ATTORNEY
Beatrixstraat no. 8
tel. (297)-5883030
fax. (297)-5883042/5883052

Look at them on the map here

http://www.oominga.com/location.php




Lex Holding same office as HBN Law Firm.


Keep the focus off the cage/trap and on the pond.
So they hire people to get involved at SM and mis-direct all the attention away from the cage/trap and then start attacking me personally when we start adding up what they are doing.


* IP 201.229.25
Margaret Wever comes into SM from her hotmail and back to hotmail
several times for several days checking my profile and posts.

*on SM the AOL9 using a florida proxy shows up and emails Rosalie Klein.

*  Rosalie Klien is a co-worker of Margaret Wever. Also known as Scubajap
who planted the lies that Natalee ran off with the blue-eyed Dutch man.

*Mark Purcell emails RV akaCapslockwizard and so does Kawish.

*Caps comes to our blog and starts reading up on the case so he can give the diversion that Natalee is in MOKO, no make that Montanja pond, Whitehouse apts. He gets to Dave through lalasmom who emails dave to listen and trust Caps. That Caps is a good guy. Dave has a friend front the money to send Fred Golba to Aruba to do the pond search and just to make sure nothing is found they bring in the Fire trucks to drain the pond using high power hoses!

* Kyle identifies JR Attorney as the man who followed him in Aruba.




Those IPs are SOME of the IPs that RV aka Capslockwizard's gang used.









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« Reply #344 on: September 23, 2010, 02:43:36 PM »

For Edward, who I hear has been banned. 


P Throwing that body there, Joran, just throwing that girl
overboard a few hundred meters from Aruba and that it did
not wash up, is very weird.
J Yeah.
Kyle told us that cage had been down there more than a year, less than 10 years
That the rocks were scattered, Kyle felt that happened when the cage hit bottom, and bounced. He said you could see where it bounced, due to a scar on the sea floor. (So that, to me, says the cage hadn't been down there for anywhere close to 10 years).

P There must have been something or other that took her. I
am telling you, there are lots of fish out there, hey?
J Sharks!
P My God, dude!
J Yeah.
P They are so big, dude!
J Yeah. I have seen them. I have—I also have a diving
certificate.
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(Range Rover tapes)


VAL DRIVES A BOAT:

Vaelntijn Myspace.. (its set to private but has a photo of him driving a boat and a bit of his info) 

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=16063334


* Joran wantec to talk to his brother when he was in jail

* No statements from the brothers

* Joran said he knew Daury his whole life. He grew up with him.

* his cell phone was found sort of near that lighthouse.

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« Reply #345 on: September 23, 2010, 02:44:26 PM »

So joran is friends with Alex Girabaldi,Who is friends with,Xander,
who is friends with a Johan from the Netherlands,
as well as Alex Geerman..

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« Reply #346 on: September 23, 2010, 02:47:55 PM »

wished I could take credit for this information, but it does belong to someone else. Thank you to him for his diligence and I harbor no resentment towards you walk for being a traitor. Yes, I have your posts at CnG. Good research though on this guy.



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« Reply #347 on: September 23, 2010, 02:56:54 PM »




TIM MILLER AND STEPH WATTS - I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO WAS REALLY PROFITING OFF OF NATALEE'S MURDER?

ANSWER: THE TRIO OF PUSS-SUCKERS!


Klye: "I've talked with Peter Shouten numerous times back in February. He hasn't seen anything but knows about the blue fabrics. DeVries and Endemol was interested in purchasing the ROV footage and I was working between them, ABC, and CBS to strike a deal. DeVries also wanted to arrange a meeting.
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« Reply #348 on: September 23, 2010, 03:00:03 PM »

Kermit

I hope your research is all compiled and documented. 

Ribbit.

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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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« Reply #349 on: September 23, 2010, 03:07:39 PM »


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« Reply #350 on: September 23, 2010, 03:07:52 PM »

It's been alluded to, but I'll come out and say it outright:

What IF the reason Tim is angry is because the the "documentary" Peter and Beth are working on exposes the Persistence and TES complicity?


A piece of the puzzle?  Is a picture emerging?

Janet

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Klye: "I've talked with Peter Shouten numerous times back in February. He hasn't seen anything but knows about the blue fabrics. DeVries and Endemol was interested in purchasing the ROV footage and I was working between them, ABC, and CBS to strike a deal. DeVries also wanted to arrange a meeting.

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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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« Reply #351 on: September 23, 2010, 03:08:04 PM »

Kermit

I hope your research is all compiled and documented. 

Ribbit.

Janet

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« Reply #352 on: September 23, 2010, 03:09:05 PM »

It's been alluded to, but I'll come out and say it outright:

What IF the reason Tim is angry is because the the "documentary" Peter and Beth are working on exposes the Persistence and TES complicity?


   Whoah.......... I hadn't thought of that, Wreck! I'm experiencing whiplash from Tim's comments and my brain hasn't caught up yet! It's that skull of yours Wreck! You're so cerebral!   

I don't care who is run over as long as it's the path to truth that justice is walking down! That path is the only one to Natalee and to real closure for Beth!
Not so cerebal --- TexasMom firmly planted it into my brain!! 
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« Reply #355 on: September 23, 2010, 03:16:16 PM »





Who is in the rubber boat?
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Magnolia - ALE
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« Reply #358 on: September 23, 2010, 03:24:12 PM »

Magnolia - ALE

Thanks!!  I thougth it looked like Silvetti.
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« Reply #359 on: September 23, 2010, 03:29:18 PM »

It's been alluded to, but I'll come out and say it outright:

What IF the reason Tim is angry is because the the "documentary" Peter and Beth are working on exposes the Persistence and TES complicity?


A piece of the puzzle?  Is a picture emerging?

Janet

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Klye: "I've talked with Peter Shouten numerous times back in February. He hasn't seen anything but knows about the blue fabrics. DeVries and Endemol was interested in purchasing the ROV footage and I was working between them, ABC, and CBS to strike a deal. DeVries also wanted to arrange a meeting.


Considering Kyle Kingman talked to Peter Shouten "numerous times back in February (2008)" .... could this "document" that Beth Holloway and Peter Devries are working together on have been in the works since April, 2008 ... the month of that private ey submitted the following post to the SM Natalee forum?

Janet

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It is quiet now, but I haven't heard the fat lady sing yet, and I apologize beth for that phrase, but slim as you are, you are the fat lady in this production. i don't know what, but i would bet my life that beth is working on some big publicity event for aruba that will spotlight their true colors. so have faith, and stay tune.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2769.msg371692;topicseen#msg371692





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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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