Home
Blog
Radio
Missing Persons
Crime
December 22, 2024, 05:48:56 AM
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
News
:
NEW CHILD BOARD CREATED IN THE POLITICAL SECTION FOR THE 2016 ELECTION
Home
Help
Login
Register
Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum
>
Natalee Holloway
>
LCD Archive
> Topic:
Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 - 9/25/2010
Pages:
«
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
»
Go Down
« previous
next »
Print
Author
Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 - 9/25/2010 (Read 300919 times)
0 Members and 4 Guests are viewing this topic.
texasmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 32412
ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 -
«
Reply #840 on:
September 25, 2010, 01:22:32 PM »
More than two nights in a row actually...
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1006/09/ijvm.01.html
Logged
I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
texasmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 32412
ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 -
«
Reply #841 on:
September 25, 2010, 01:24:55 PM »
Quote from: Rob on September 25, 2010, 01:19:59 PM
yanno, I'm sitting here and thinking the only thing missing is a 12th Montserrat pond search.
When's that gonna be announced? anyone...
Well yanno they did have "Jay" live on Steph's show when they were in Aruba.
He was going to tell his story!
Not that "Jay" could hardly get a word in edgewise, but he was on the show.
Logged
I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
Rob
Monkey All Star
Offline
Posts: 12469
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 -
«
Reply #842 on:
September 25, 2010, 01:26:58 PM »
It's amazing who Tim and Dave believe. Has anyone they have believed brought this case one more inch to being concluded?
but Beth is the bad guy in all this.
Geerman and Vrolijk are God-like for their "courage".. but Beth is "using" Natalee.
It's a bizarre world, and I'm starting to think that some don't want Natalee found... wonder who that might be.
Logged
Truth, Justice and the American Way.
+++
~ livin' the life I was born to live - givin' it all I've got to give ~
texasmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 32412
ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 -
«
Reply #843 on:
September 25, 2010, 01:32:09 PM »
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1006/09/ijvm.01.html
snipped
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tim Miller, you`ve been very patient. You are in Aruba searching for Natalee Holloway`s body.
What is going on in Aruba in terms of that search?
TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: You know,
everything`s real tight in Aruba right now
. And you know, speaking about that construction site, believe it or not, Jane, when we were in Aruba on the first time, when we was doing a search, that construction site was brought up. There was just a concrete slab there in a driveway with a house wasn`t built on it yet. And it was close to the tennis courts and also where Joran Van Der Sloot was supposedly seen by a gardener.
snipped
In other words...not a da_n thing!
Logged
I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
carpe noctem
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 9286
History repeats itself. It's a cyclical beast.
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 -
«
Reply #844 on:
September 25, 2010, 01:33:13 PM »
I guess you don't need to stay in a motel/hotel when you are wearing a big flowery shirt
doing a live shot on the JVM show. People can find you a bit easier when you are being
broadcast across the universe on HLN.
Tim, it is amazing how that works.
Logged
For Natalee and Stephany, whatever it takes.
-JUSTICE FOR NATALEE ANN - BOYCOTT ARUBA
------------------
"Don't talk about what you have done or what you are going to do." Thomas Jefferson
"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."Thomas Jeff
Rob
Monkey All Star
Offline
Posts: 12469
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 -
«
Reply #845 on:
September 25, 2010, 01:45:24 PM »
Us common folk out here have been pretty kind to Tim over the years. From those that turned out to search - and who knew that they might be the subjects of court orders - to those that gave donations til it hurt.
And I seem to remember something about a hurricane destroying Tim's barn and hay for his horses. More donations rolled in. Or did I imagine all that.
It would have been nice if Tim recalled all the good that came his way before he ripped Beth apart.
Logged
Truth, Justice and the American Way.
+++
~ livin' the life I was born to live - givin' it all I've got to give ~
nonesuche
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 8878
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 -
«
Reply #846 on:
September 25, 2010, 01:45:33 PM »
Quote from: texasmom on September 25, 2010, 12:29:17 PM
http://sarstoriesnews.blogspot.com/2010/03/sar-impersonator.html
SATURDAY, MARCH 13, 2010
A SAR Impersonator
This information was posted on the SAR-L email list and, with permission, I'm sharing it here in order to help spread the word:
During a massive search in the San Diego area, a man named Stephen Watts, a.k.a Steph (pronounced "Steff"), presented himself to the Sheriff's Department and coordinating agencies as a member of 1st Special Response Group (1SRG), a known and reputable organization, in an attempt to insinuate himself into law enforcement search efforts. Soon after, Mr. Watts began blogging about his actions, including sensitive search information.
1SRG has never had a member, past or present, by this name or any reasonable variation, nor have they ever received and/or denied an application by such a person.
1SRG launched an investigation and determined that Stephen Watts is a freelance "investigative" reporter who provides titillating and "newsworthy" information to on-air broadcasts such as Nancy Grace, Greta Von Susteren, CourTV (now HLN), and other entertainment providers.
1SRG is sharing this information because Mr. Watts appears to have repeatedly joined with Texas Equusearch in their efforts and has made a number of other attempts prior to his actions in San Diego to insert himself into other search missions. He falsely stated that he was with 1SRG in an effort to further his own cause. Apparently, he has done this before, and 1SRG is concerned that he may try to do so again in the future.
From information obtained during the investigation, Mr. Watts arrived in San Diego, along with Tim Miller and Texas Equusearch, in the search for the McStay family. You can read the McStay relatives' account of their experience with Mr. Watts at
http://www.mcstayfamily.com/steph-watts-rumors
.
While in San Diego with Texas Equusearch, Chelsea King disappeared, and Mr. Watts used that opportunity to get involved with a growing national news story.
After verifying their initial information with several agencies and individuals, 1SRG notified both the San Diego County Sheriff's Department and the California Emergency Management Agency, the local SAR coordinator, state SAR coordinator, and, since this was an investigative effort that included federal agencies, contacts within the FBI. Based on further discussion, this issue is said to have been "handled and considered resolved."
1SRG also attempted to contact Mr. Watts through his personal webpage, his Facebook page, a phone number he gives on his website, and through email, in addition to their posts on the SAR-L lister and elsewhere. Mr. Watts has not returned their contacts.
On March 12th, formal "cease and desist" letters were sent to Mr. Watts, CourtTV/HLN, Nancy Grace, Greta Von Susteren, and those agencies who employ Mr. Watts for their "news" services, instructing them that any attempt to use 1SRG's name, logo, reputation, or other team affiliation would be met with legal action and that 1SRG would assist other SAR teams who may find themselves in a similar position.
This information is being provided in the attempt to stop Mr. Watts from breaching law enforcement and search mission security as he seeks confidential or legally protected information, as well as to protect both 1SRG and other SAR teams from those same efforts.
POSTED BY DEB LAUMAN AT 6:22 AM
LABELS: MISCELLANEOUS SAR, NEWS EVENTS
2 COMMENTS:
Anonymous said...
Not much of a surprise. Steph Watts is a snake.
Tim Miller really should start doing better checks on the people he surrounds him with.
MARCH 29, 2010 6:20 AM
Anonymous said...
I totally agree with post #1.
APRIL 1, 2010 5:56 AM
Thank you again Texasmom - this is gold as it relates to exposing Watts. Watts even posts a neg against the family in the comments on the McStay family site (link you inserted above) - it's worth the read - how very telling about Watts.
Can I make a suggestion? Why not keep adding to that Watts transcript thread, pull everything that can be found on Watts that's revealing and post it there? SM does pop up on searches very effectively and it there is a centralized place 'exposing' Watts then it likely would do lots to expose him further?
As for Tim, geez how misguided can you be. There would be no extortion charge against Joran if not for Beth. Since his arrest Joran has done all he could to inflame and offend Beth, he often directs it all at Beth and not at Dave. I don't care what Joran thinks of her, he's a murderer right?
Whenever women ask the questions no one else wants to ask, or are willing to be just as assertive as a man - we hear these same types of criticisms. Honestly Tim and Watts need to find a new angle for that one is old, tired, and so transparent.
Logged
I continue to stand with the girl.
Rob
Monkey All Star
Offline
Posts: 12469
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 -
«
Reply #847 on:
September 25, 2010, 01:46:56 PM »
Quote from: Rob on September 25, 2010, 01:45:24 PM
Us common folk out here have been pretty kind to Tim over the years. From those that turned out to search - and who knew that they might be the subjects of court orders - to those that gave donations til it hurt.
And I seem to remember something about a hurricane destroying Tim's barn and hay for his horses. More donations rolled in. Or did I imagine all that.
It would have been nice if Tim recalled all the good that came his way before he ripped Beth apart.
ohh, and there were all the people that called in food orders and paid for that themselves, and all the businesses that gave water and food, and God only knows what else.
Logged
Truth, Justice and the American Way.
+++
~ livin' the life I was born to live - givin' it all I've got to give ~
Tamikosmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 37229
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 -
«
Reply #848 on:
September 25, 2010, 01:47:05 PM »
MIXED MESSAGES? DOUBLE STANDARD?
Natalee Holloway Case
WATT'S UP WITH THIS? STEPH WATTS & TIM MILLER 9/19/2010
Steph Watts: .... So how does she interfere with an ongoing investigation? She goes over there, confronts him, spooks him, scares him, gets him to tell them the story and now he doesn’t want to talk to you know the people he was talking to before. He throws his hands up in the air and says all this is off...you guys sprung Beth on me. That’s how she interferes with an ongoing investigation Tim Miller. Agree or disagree?
Tim Miller: I one hundred percent agree... I one hundred percent agree... I .. I think she should have... Beth needs to understand, Beth is the mother, Beth is not the investigator.
<snipped>
Tim Miller: We’re searchers, we let the investigators do their job...
Transcript - Texasmom
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/09/20/watts-up-with-this#endframe
The Haleigh Cummings Case
Stepmom Allegedly Failed Polygraph
Posted: 11:03 am EDT August 27, 2009
Updated: 2:04 pm EDT August 27, 2009
Tim Miller says Misty came to him to help with a new search, because she wanted a chance to clear her name. So he set up an independent polygraph test for her.
Miller says Misty "failed it miserably." Misty agreed to take the tests even though her attorney told her not to. Miller says she also failed voice analysis and did not cooperate with a hypnosis test.
The Putnam County Sheriff's Office is hardly shocked. They say Misty's account of the night in February, when the then 5-year-old girl disappeared, is sketchy and full of holes.
Miller gave the tests results to investigators.
http://www.wftv.com/news/20581786/detail.html
Logged
Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
carpe noctem
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 9286
History repeats itself. It's a cyclical beast.
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 -
«
Reply #849 on:
September 25, 2010, 01:50:01 PM »
Quote from: San on September 25, 2010, 12:37:18 PM
Tim is not a cop. He is search and rescue. Each family has their own story. They handle things differently. For him to go out and publicly bash Beth because he felt it would hurt the investigation is uncalled for. In the same instance he said there was a plan for Dave to go visit Joran.
The only difference between Beth's visit and Dave's future visit would have been no TV crew. Was Dave going to go in there without wearing a wire to tape the conversation. What good would that do. He wasn't going to get information out of Joran. Was he going to go in there with a map and ask him point to where you put Natalee? Joran would have pointed to a place on the map and say she is here and we all know he would be lying.
Tim Miller is FOS regarding any investigation. The FBI isn't going to tell Tim Miller their plans.
And all of a sudden Tim Miller has become Aruba friendly. He has a short term memory.
JMO.
That map was like something straight off a cap'n crunch cereal box. It's a joke. Joran the entertainer at your service, once again. He doesn't know where she is - he never has.
Beth and De Vries seem to know that.
Hey Tim, dig here. X
Logged
For Natalee and Stephany, whatever it takes.
-JUSTICE FOR NATALEE ANN - BOYCOTT ARUBA
------------------
"Don't talk about what you have done or what you are going to do." Thomas Jefferson
"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."Thomas Jeff
texasmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 32412
ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 -
«
Reply #850 on:
September 25, 2010, 01:54:02 PM »
Quote from: carpe noctem on September 25, 2010, 01:33:13 PM
I guess you don't need to stay in a motel/hotel when you are wearing a big flowery shirt
doing a live shot on the JVM show. People can find you a bit easier when you are being
broadcast across the universe on HLN.
Tim, it is amazing how that works.
And even though "everything's real tight in Aruba right now" and he wasn't allowed to search one single area...he stayed on for another week or so...more freebies? Well his promotions of Aruba in the coming months (while bashing Beth) were absolutely priceless to some in Aruba I'm sure. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he's right back over there in no time. Maybe to accept his AHATA Shoco award!
http://arubasuturismo.com/?tag=ahata-shoco-awards
snipped
The Shoco Awards of Excellence is AHATA’s official recognition program focusing on excellence in service, hospitality and
outstanding contribution to Aruba’s tourism industry
. Whereas in the past, individual organizations were also recognized, today’s awards focus on individual accomplishments that have led to far-reaching results.
Logged
I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
texasmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 32412
ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 -
«
Reply #851 on:
September 25, 2010, 02:00:38 PM »
Quote from: nonesuche on September 25, 2010, 01:45:33 PM
Quote from: texasmom on September 25, 2010, 12:29:17 PM
http://sarstoriesnews.blogspot.com/2010/03/sar-impersonator.html
SATURDAY, MARCH 13, 2010
A SAR Impersonator
This information was posted on the SAR-L email list and, with permission, I'm sharing it here in order to help spread the word:
During a massive search in the San Diego area, a man named Stephen Watts, a.k.a Steph (pronounced "Steff"), presented himself to the Sheriff's Department and coordinating agencies as a member of 1st Special Response Group (1SRG), a known and reputable organization, in an attempt to insinuate himself into law enforcement search efforts. Soon after, Mr. Watts began blogging about his actions, including sensitive search information.
1SRG has never had a member, past or present, by this name or any reasonable variation, nor have they ever received and/or denied an application by such a person.
1SRG launched an investigation and determined that Stephen Watts is a freelance "investigative" reporter who provides titillating and "newsworthy" information to on-air broadcasts such as Nancy Grace, Greta Von Susteren, CourTV (now HLN), and other entertainment providers.
1SRG is sharing this information because Mr. Watts appears to have repeatedly joined with Texas Equusearch in their efforts and has made a number of other attempts prior to his actions in San Diego to insert himself into other search missions. He falsely stated that he was with 1SRG in an effort to further his own cause. Apparently, he has done this before, and 1SRG is concerned that he may try to do so again in the future.
From information obtained during the investigation, Mr. Watts arrived in San Diego, along with Tim Miller and Texas Equusearch, in the search for the McStay family. You can read the McStay relatives' account of their experience with Mr. Watts at
http://www.mcstayfamily.com/steph-watts-rumors
.
While in San Diego with Texas Equusearch, Chelsea King disappeared, and Mr. Watts used that opportunity to get involved with a growing national news story.
After verifying their initial information with several agencies and individuals, 1SRG notified both the San Diego County Sheriff's Department and the California Emergency Management Agency, the local SAR coordinator, state SAR coordinator, and, since this was an investigative effort that included federal agencies, contacts within the FBI. Based on further discussion, this issue is said to have been "handled and considered resolved."
1SRG also attempted to contact Mr. Watts through his personal webpage, his Facebook page, a phone number he gives on his website, and through email, in addition to their posts on the SAR-L lister and elsewhere. Mr. Watts has not returned their contacts.
On March 12th, formal "cease and desist" letters were sent to Mr. Watts, CourtTV/HLN, Nancy Grace, Greta Von Susteren, and those agencies who employ Mr. Watts for their "news" services, instructing them that any attempt to use 1SRG's name, logo, reputation, or other team affiliation would be met with legal action and that 1SRG would assist other SAR teams who may find themselves in a similar position.
This information is being provided in the attempt to stop Mr. Watts from breaching law enforcement and search mission security as he seeks confidential or legally protected information, as well as to protect both 1SRG and other SAR teams from those same efforts.
POSTED BY DEB LAUMAN AT 6:22 AM
LABELS: MISCELLANEOUS SAR, NEWS EVENTS
2 COMMENTS:
Anonymous said...
Not much of a surprise. Steph Watts is a snake.
Tim Miller really should start doing better checks on the people he surrounds him with.
MARCH 29, 2010 6:20 AM
Anonymous said...
I totally agree with post #1.
APRIL 1, 2010 5:56 AM
Thank you again Texasmom - this is gold as it relates to exposing Watts. Watts even posts a neg against the family in the comments on the McStay family site (link you inserted above) - it's worth the read - how very telling about Watts.
Can I make a suggestion? Why not keep adding to that Watts transcript thread, pull everything that can be found on Watts that's revealing and post it there? SM does pop up on searches very effectively and it there is a centralized place 'exposing' Watts then it likely would do lots to expose him further?
As for Tim, geez how misguided can you be. There would be no extortion charge against Joran if not for Beth. Since his arrest Joran has done all he could to inflame and offend Beth, he often directs it all at Beth and not at Dave. I don't care what Joran thinks of her, he's a murderer right?
Whenever women ask the questions no one else wants to ask, or are willing to be just as assertive as a man - we hear these same types of criticisms. Honestly Tim and Watts need to find a new angle for that one is old, tired, and so transparent.
I agree, adding it now! Others please feel free to add what you can find also!
Absolutely agree with your other comments too!
Logged
I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
San
Super Moderator
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 15883
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 -
«
Reply #852 on:
September 25, 2010, 02:03:10 PM »
Quote from: carpe noctem on September 25, 2010, 01:50:01 PM
Quote from: San on September 25, 2010, 12:37:18 PM
Tim is not a cop. He is search and rescue. Each family has their own story. They handle things differently. For him to go out and publicly bash Beth because he felt it would hurt the investigation is uncalled for. In the same instance he said there was a plan for Dave to go visit Joran.
The only difference between Beth's visit and Dave's future visit would have been no TV crew. Was Dave going to go in there without wearing a wire to tape the conversation. What good would that do. He wasn't going to get information out of Joran. Was he going to go in there with a map and ask him point to where you put Natalee? Joran would have pointed to a place on the map and say she is here and we all know he would be lying.
Tim Miller is FOS regarding any investigation. The FBI isn't going to tell Tim Miller their plans.
And all of a sudden Tim Miller has become Aruba friendly. He has a short term memory.
JMO.
That map was like something straight off a cap'n crunch cereal box. It's a joke. Joran the entertainer at your service, once again. He doesn't know where she is - he never has.
Beth and De Vries seem to know that.
Hey Tim, dig here. X
Logged
nonesuche
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 8878
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 -
«
Reply #853 on:
September 25, 2010, 02:13:20 PM »
Quote from: San on September 25, 2010, 02:03:10 PM
Quote from: carpe noctem on September 25, 2010, 01:50:01 PM
Quote from: San on September 25, 2010, 12:37:18 PM
Tim is not a cop. He is search and rescue. Each family has their own story. They handle things differently. For him to go out and publicly bash Beth because he felt it would hurt the investigation is uncalled for. In the same instance he said there was a plan for Dave to go visit Joran.
The only difference between Beth's visit and Dave's future visit would have been no TV crew. Was Dave going to go in there without wearing a wire to tape the conversation. What good would that do. He wasn't going to get information out of Joran. Was he going to go in there with a map and ask him point to where you put Natalee? Joran would have pointed to a place on the map and say she is here and we all know he would be lying.
Tim Miller is FOS regarding any investigation. The FBI isn't going to tell Tim Miller their plans.
And all of a sudden Tim Miller has become Aruba friendly. He has a short term memory.
JMO.
That map was like something straight off a cap'n crunch cereal box. It's a joke. Joran the entertainer at your service, once again. He doesn't know where she is - he never has.
Beth and De Vries seem to know that.
Hey Tim, dig here. X
ROFL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Logged
I continue to stand with the girl.
nonesuche
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 8878
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 -
«
Reply #854 on:
September 25, 2010, 02:17:23 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on September 25, 2010, 01:47:05 PM
MIXED MESSAGES? DOUBLE STANDARD?
Natalee Holloway Case
WATT'S UP WITH THIS? STEPH WATTS & TIM MILLER 9/19/2010
Steph Watts: .... So how does she interfere with an ongoing investigation? She goes over there, confronts him, spooks him, scares him, gets him to tell them the story and now he doesn’t want to talk to you know the people he was talking to before. He throws his hands up in the air and says all this is off...you guys sprung Beth on me. That’s how she interferes with an ongoing investigation Tim Miller. Agree or disagree?
Tim Miller: I one hundred percent agree... I one hundred percent agree... I .. I think she should have... Beth needs to understand, Beth is the mother, Beth is not the investigator.
<snipped>
Tim Miller: We’re searchers, we let the investigators do their job...
Transcript - Texasmom
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/09/20/watts-up-with-this#endframe
The Haleigh Cummings Case
Stepmom Allegedly Failed Polygraph
Posted: 11:03 am EDT August 27, 2009
Updated: 2:04 pm EDT August 27, 2009
Tim Miller says Misty came to him to help with a new search, because she wanted a chance to clear her name. So he set up an independent polygraph test for her.
Miller says Misty "failed it miserably." Misty agreed to take the tests even though her attorney told her not to. Miller says she also failed voice analysis and did not cooperate with a hypnosis test.
The Putnam County Sheriff's Office is hardly shocked. They say Misty's account of the night in February, when the then 5-year-old girl disappeared, is sketchy and full of holes.
Miller gave the tests results to investigators.
http://www.wftv.com/news/20581786/detail.html
Hi Janet- I completely agree with this post. One standard for Beth yet another for Tim.
Tim should not be arranging polygraph's for any suspect nor should he ever speak of those results either.
Logged
I continue to stand with the girl.
texasmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 32412
ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 -
«
Reply #855 on:
September 25, 2010, 02:19:55 PM »
Quote from: San on September 25, 2010, 02:03:10 PM
Quote from: carpe noctem on September 25, 2010, 01:50:01 PM
Quote from: San on September 25, 2010, 12:37:18 PM
Tim is not a cop. He is search and rescue. Each family has their own story. They handle things differently. For him to go out and publicly bash Beth because he felt it would hurt the investigation is uncalled for. In the same instance he said there was a plan for Dave to go visit Joran.
The only difference between Beth's visit and Dave's future visit would have been no TV crew. Was Dave going to go in there without wearing a wire to tape the conversation. What good would that do. He wasn't going to get information out of Joran. Was he going to go in there with a map and ask him point to where you put Natalee? Joran would have pointed to a place on the map and say she is here and we all know he would be lying.
Tim Miller is FOS regarding any investigation. The FBI isn't going to tell Tim Miller their plans.
And all of a sudden Tim Miller has become Aruba friendly. He has a short term memory.
JMO.
That map was like something straight off a cap'n crunch cereal box. It's a joke. Joran the entertainer at your service, once again. He doesn't know where she is - he never has.
Beth and De Vries seem to know that.
Hey Tim, dig here. X
Logged
I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
wreck
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 7781
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 -
«
Reply #856 on:
September 25, 2010, 02:42:34 PM »
Crow: "Let's see what my Captain Crunch Treasure Map says."
(I know most everyone will not get this -- but, I think it's funny --- it's from Mystey Science Theater 2000)
Logged
Dihannah1
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 5264
God watch over our children and keep them safe.
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 -
«
Reply #857 on:
September 25, 2010, 02:46:39 PM »
Ironically, I just received an email to renew my membership with TES. Here is my response.
I was ready and willing to renew my membership as I always felt Tim has been a hero for the missing and has done such great work. I've worked side by side with him, have donated time and money. However, I am struggling now and 2nd guessing him since his accusations and bashing of Beth Holloway on Steph Watts show. Many people at ScaredMonkeys.com and other sites were made aware of him during the Natalees case and helped bring his notoriety, therefore, bringing in more money and support for TES. Beth has set aside her own concerns to help in searches and attended fundraisers. What more does he want if he has repeatedly stated he never accepts money from a victims family? . I am totally in shock, as I've always loved Tim, but I am so confused at what he is becoming? He just hurt so many supporters, who have defended him to no end and has contributed so much to TES, by those comments about Beth. I can't imagine how Beth feels, but his comments are certainly going to affect future support. I ask that he at least apologize to her.
Again, I appreciate what Tim does and would consider recommending him to anybody for his awesome experience, but I have to rethink how his comments may affect future searches. What is happening to Tim? He seems to be loosing it? Not the same guy I met a couple years ago. Makes me sad.....
God Bless
-----Original Message-----
From: Sherry McKinney <
sherry.mckinney@texasequusearch.org
>
To: 'Sherry McKinney' <
sherry.mckinney@texasequusearch.org
>
Sent: Wed, Sep 15, 2010 1:50 pm
Subject: FW: Membership Renewal
Attached please find your annual Membership RenewalForm. Everyone at TES hopes that you continue being a member andsupporting this wonderful organization. Should you have any questions, please do not hesitate tocontact me. SherryMcKinney, Office AdministratorTexas EquuSearch
Logged
God has FINAL Judgement!<br />
Tamikosmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 37229
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 -
«
Reply #858 on:
September 25, 2010, 02:50:02 PM »
Quote from: San on September 25, 2010, 12:37:18 PM
Tim is not a cop. He is search and rescue. Each family has their own story. They handle things differently. For him to go out and publicly bash Beth because he felt it would hurt the investigation is uncalled for. In the same instance he said there was a plan for Dave to go visit Joran.
The only difference between Beth's visit and Dave's future visit would have been no TV crew. Was Dave going to go in there without wearing a wire to tape the conversation. What good would that do. He wasn't going to get information out of Joran. Was he going to go in there with a map and ask him point to where you put Natalee? Joran would have pointed to a place on the map and say she is here and we all know he would be lying.
Tim Miller is FOS regarding any investigation. The FBI isn't going to tell Tim Miller their plans.
And all of a sudden Tim Miller has become Aruba friendly. He has a short term memory.
JMO.
Does Tim Miller really forget that it was a corrupt Aruban investigation that was H--- bent on protecting Joran and Paulus that hindered TES' search in Aruban waters for the remains of Natalee Holloway in the months following her disappearance or ... does Tim's silence encompassing the Persistence betrayal as well as his professional relationship with Silvetti and Shaefer imply that he has been influenced to become a participant to the Aruban cover up agenda?
Janet
+++++++
On the Record w / Greta
November 1, 2005
TIM MILLER: We actually had our team from Florida State University. Our underwater divers actually had a connection with somebody with the Navy who was willing to go ahead and bring their equipment. Gene Ralston, one of our members has equipment to go 800ft deep and he’s done a lot of stuff with the FBI and made those contacts. We gave Chief Dompig the phone number at the FBI. They were willing to bring their equipment. Gene was willing to bring his equipment. Everything just literally stopped. We had no clue what went wrong, our trip was basically in vain.
'The Abrams Report' for Nov. 1st
updated 11/2/2005 9:29:42 AM ET
DAVE HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY‘S FATHER: Well I arrived on the island on October the 18th and the following day I met with Dompig and he requested the assistance of the FBI, indicated that he would like for them to come back and utilize them as much as he could. So we said well, we‘ll try to see if we can make that happen.
In the meantime, he indicated that we needed to focus our search efforts into the ocean so you know, we‘re not going to waste any time. So we took off along with Tim Miller with EquuSearch and had boats in the water I believe by the weekend and we soon realized that we would need the assistance of the FBI and some of their search equipment, so we forwarded an e-mail to Mr. Dompig on Wednesday, sometime Wednesday requesting that he make a phone call to the FBI so that we can get this underwater equipment.
And I ended up having to leave the island on Thursday and then—and my reports back from those individuals who were left, they felt like the light had been turned out. And so I followed up again Saturday with the same e-mail the you know we‘re all sitting on the bank and we cannot get in the water until we get the assistance of the FBI and that team finally had to leave this past Monday or Tuesday.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9896554/
'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for Jan. 12th
updated 1/13/2006 9:16:54 AM ET
BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: I think that it was in the—in October, possibly early November, when Tim Miller was trying to finish this search when, of course, the depth of the water exceeded his equipment. And that‘s when he was needing the officials on the island to contact or pick up the phone and make one phone call to the FBI for some additional equipment. And they refused to do that.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10836208/
Logged
Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
wreck
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 7781
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 -
«
Reply #859 on:
September 25, 2010, 02:50:34 PM »
Quote from: Dihannah1 on September 25, 2010, 02:46:39 PM
Ironically, I just received an email to renew my membership with TES. Here is my response.
I was ready and willing to renew my membership as I always felt Tim has been a hero for the missing and has done such great work. I've worked side by side with him, have donated time and money. However, I am struggling now and 2nd guessing him since his accusations and bashing of Beth Holloway on Steph Watts show. Many people at ScaredMonkeys.com and other sites were made aware of him during the Natalees case and helped bring his notoriety, therefore, bringing in more money and support for TES. Beth has set aside her own concerns to help in searches and attended fundraisers. What more does he want if he has repeatedly stated he never accepts money from a victims family? . I am totally in shock, as I've always loved Tim, but I am so confused at what he is becoming? He just hurt so many supporters, who have defended him to no end and has contributed so much to TES, by those comments about Beth. I can't imagine how Beth feels, but his comments are certainly going to affect future support. I ask that he at least apologize to her.
Again, I appreciate what Tim does and would consider recommending him to anybody for his awesome experience, but I have to rethink how his comments may affect future searches. What is happening to Tim? He seems to be loosing it? Not the same guy I met a couple years ago. Makes me sad.....
God Bless
-----Original Message-----
From: Sherry McKinney <
sherry.mckinney@texasequusearch.org
>
To: 'Sherry McKinney' <
sherry.mckinney@texasequusearch.org
>
Sent: Wed, Sep 15, 2010 1:50 pm
Subject: FW: Membership Renewal
Attached please find your annual Membership RenewalForm. Everyone at TES hopes that you continue being a member andsupporting this wonderful organization. Should you have any questions, please do not hesitate tocontact me. SherryMcKinney, Office AdministratorTexas EquuSearch
Great timing and well conveyed! I bet this will not go un-noticed!
Logged
Pages:
«
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
»
Go Up
Print
Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum
>
Natalee Holloway
>
LCD Archive
> Topic:
Natalee Case Discussion #847 9/21/10 - 9/25/2010
« previous
next »
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
FORUM RULES
-----------------------------
=> Forum Rules and Tips
-----------------------------
Polls, Polls and more Polls
-----------------------------
=> Missing Persons Polls
=> Current Events/News Polls
=> Crime and Trial Polls
=> Just For Fun Polls
-----------------------------
Missing Persons - High Profile
-----------------------------
=> Missing Persons High Profile
===> Dylan Redwine, 13yrs old, last seen 11/19/12, Vallecito, CO
===> Kyron Horman - Portland Oregon
===> Caylee Marie Anthony - Florida (BODY FOUND)
=====> Caylee's Law - by State
=======> Caylee's Law - text
=======> ALABAMA
=======> ALASKA
=======> ARIZONA
=======> ARKANSAS
=======> CALIFORNIA
=======> COLORADO
=======> CONNECTICUT
=======> DELAWARE
=======> DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
=======> FLORIDA
=======> GEORGIA
=======> HAWAII
=======> IDAHO
=======> ILLINOIS
=======> INDIANA
=======> IOWA
=======> KANSAS
=======> KENTUCKY
=======> LOUISIANA
=======> MAINE
=======> MARYLAND
=======> MASSACHUSETTS
=======> MICHIGAN
=======> MINNESOTA
=======> MISSISSIPPI
=======> MISSOURI
=======> MONTANA
=======> NEBRASKA
=======> NEVADA
=======> NEW HAMPSHIRE
=======> NEW JERSEY
=======> NEW MEXICO
=======> NEW YORK
=======> NORTH CAROLINA
=======> NORTH DAKOTA
=======> OHIO
=======> OKLAHOMA
=======> OREGON
=======> PENNSYLVANIA
=======> PUERTO RICO
=======> RHODE ISLAND
=======> SOUTH CAROLINA
=======> SOUTH DAKOTA
=======> TENNESSEE
=======> TEXAS
=======> UTAH
=======> VERMONT
=======> VIRGINIA
=======> WASHINGTON
=======> WEST VIRGINIA
=======> WISCONSIN
=======> WYOMING
=====> Caylee Marie Anthony Murder Trial Archives
===> Sierra Lamar, 15yrs old, Morgan Hill, CA Missing Since March 16, 2012
===> JO ANN (JODIE) BAIN AND 3 DAUGHTERS MISSING 4/27/2012(2 murdered 2 safe)
===> Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6 yrs old missing 4/21/12 Tucson, AZ (Body Found)
===> Jennifer Kesse - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Susan Powell 28yrs old, missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
===> Michelle Loree Parker, Last Seen 11/17/11, Orlando, FL
===> Celina Cass, 11yrs old missing 7/25/11 New Hampshire
===> Aliayah Lunsford, 3yrs old, Weston, West VA, missing since 9/24/2011
===> Lisa Irwin, 10mo old missing since 10/4/2011 KC, MO
===> Robyn Gardner missing in Aruba August 2, 2011
=> Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives
-----------------------------
Virginia Area Missing and Murdered - possible connections
-----------------------------
=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
-----------------------------
High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
-----------------------------
=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
-----------------------------
Missing, Exploited and True Crime
-----------------------------
=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
-----------------------------
Natalee Holloway
-----------------------------
=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
-----------------------------
Current Events and Musings
-----------------------------
=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
-----------------------------
The Monkey Lounge
-----------------------------
=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
-----------------------------
Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
-----------------------------
=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
-----------------------------
General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
-----------------------------
=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
Loading...