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« Reply #120 on: September 18, 2010, 03:36:07 PM »

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Idahogal says:
September 18, 2010 at 11:52 am
enumclawrose says:
September 17, 2010 at 10:07 pm
DUH!!
I did a Peoplefinders, just the freebie on Freddy Sanchez which shows 147 NW Cornelius Pass Rd., OR address.
Ode says:
September 17, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Does anyone find the above address interesting? I am not from Oregon but I think the Fred Meyers store is fairly close to this address. Cornelius Pass Rd. was on the poster wanting information about seeing the white truck on June 4th.
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FWIW, the above address is close to the first Fred Meyer and Rock Creek area:
OregonLive link to Rock Creek Drug bust:
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/06
/oregon_busts_huge_drug_cartel.html
MapQuest Link to Rock Creek Apts:
http://www.mapquest.com/listings/Rock_Creek_Landing_Hillsboro_OR_12366011?placement=results_bub_map
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« Reply #121 on: September 18, 2010, 03:36:40 PM »

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September 18, 2010 at 11:54 am
@kitjcat: I totally get you regarding the vacation. I have neglected quite a bit of the mundane chores I should have been doing, following this case.
re: Assumed business names as listed by the state-Rudy changed his biz name to a related name at one point, and there were other biz’ related to the Sanchez/Estrada family that went “inactive” and were later activated. (ie “Estrada’s”).
The frustrating thing about the state search engine (from my POV) was that you cant just put in Rodolfo Estrada or Rodolfo Sanchez and get a listing of businesses associated with his name. (Or the other players.) You kinda have to know the biz name to run it, but I could be mistaken that there may be a way to just run the persons name. If anyone finds that out, please show me. TIA
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« Reply #122 on: September 18, 2010, 03:39:26 PM »

bumping this to remind that rudy sanchez did meet kyron at the school also.

http://blinkoncrime.com/category/kyron-horman/rudy-sanchez/
Excerpt: Of particular interest, is source confirmation that the landscaper Terri Horman hired last fall, who worked on the Horman property, had met Kyron at the residence as well as the Skyline School, where his firm had been contracted to do some work.
Rudy Sanchez, of RS Landscape Maintenance since 2008 has told MCSO that Terri Horman attempted to hire him in a murder for hire plot against her husband Kaine. Sanchez then agreed to participate in a surreptitious sting that included a body wire...
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« Reply #123 on: September 18, 2010, 03:44:00 PM »

Address of rudy sanchez

Rudy Sanchez, of RS Landscape Maintenance since 2008 has told MCSO that Terri Horman attempted to hire him in a murder for hire plot against her husband Kaine

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8553.0
Reply #13 on: September 13, 2010, 11:25:11 AM »

The Oregon Secretary of State Corporation Division shows license #300176-93 for Sanchez Nursery Sales, 955 S Pacific Hwy, Woodburn, OR 97071. The authorized representative on file is Maria G. Sanchez and the representative is Ubaldo Sanchez, with with the same address. This is Elsy Sanchez’s address on the missing kids poster
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« Reply #124 on: September 18, 2010, 04:07:33 PM »

possible time linehttp://blinkoncrime.com/2010/09/09/kyron-horman-missing-case-review-and-birthday-wishes-to-the-frog-prince/comment-page-6/#comments
puzzled says:
September 12, 2010 at 2:25 pm
enumclawrose says:
September 12, 2010 at 2:10 am
Consider this timeline:
05/09/10 TH and RS have confrontation. RS is confronted by LE in front of his wife and children.
-10 DAYS LATER
05/19/10 Mrs. Sanchez leaves RS and takes her kids.
-17 DAYS LATER
06/04/10 Kyron Horman goes missing.
-22 DAYS LATER
06/26/10 RS is involved with a LE sting on TH. (also KH, informed by LE of a MFH plot, moves with daughter and begins divorce, RO, etc).
-31 DAYS LATER
07/27/10 Felony warrant in place for Mrs. Sanchez.
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Thank you for this! Now this is something I can see happening, IF the children actually do belong to LS/RS.
Do we know where RS is, as in or out of jail? What’s his status as an illegal? Is he still running his business? and where are his wife and children?
I’ve always maintained that if we knew as much backstory on the other suspects as we do TH — we’d be looking at this way differently


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« Reply #125 on: September 18, 2010, 04:20:52 PM »

Sacky,

Do we know if RS is still in the area?
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« Reply #126 on: September 18, 2010, 05:04:34 PM »

bumping
 



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enumclawrose says:
September 17, 2010 at 5:03 pm
I, too have been looking into the names we have been dealing with and have been too busy with work to compile everything presentable yet. I decided to go to square one with the relationships. I have tried to read the past two days posts thoroughly, so forgive me if I am restating information or am behind the curve.
RUDY
If I start with R L Landscape Maintenance, which we have been told is the Rudy we are interested in, he has this license since 01-08-2008 and is listed as Rodolfo Sanchez, P O Box 347, Canby OR 97013 and 7169 SE Renada St., Milwaukie, OR 97267. The Canby address goes back to Rudy Sanchez Landscape Maintenance 10-31-05 thru 11-01-07 with a physical address of 9850 SE Amherst Apt. 50, Clackamas, OR 97015.
JAIME
Jaime is tied to Rudy through the P O Box in Canby and the Renada St address. Estrada’s, 08-06-03 lists Jaime S Estrada, P O Box 347, Canby, OR 97013 and 19839 S Hwy 213 #1040, Oregon City, OR 97045. Clean Factor, 08-23-10, P O Box 2112, Oregon City, OR 97045 and 7169 SE Renada St., Milwaukie, OR 97267
Above information was on the Oregon Sec. of State Corp. Division.
Peoplefinders shows Rodolfo S Sanchez, aka Rodolfo Estrada, at 7169 SE Renada St., age 36, with possible relatives/associates of Jaime S Estrada and Ubaldo R Sanchez.
To me this proves that Rudy and Jaime, lived at the same address, shared the same P O Box as well as use the last name Estrada.
Can we definitively add to this connection
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September 17, 2010 at 5:07 pm
My last post, should read R S Landscape Maintenance. Sorry




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« Reply #127 on: September 18, 2010, 05:18:59 PM »

sheesh just trying to sort out address connections, here is what i have so far:

Address of rudy sanchez
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8553.0
Rudy Sanchez, of RS Landscape Maintenance since 2008 has told MCSO that Terri Horman attempted to hire him in a murder for hire plot against her husband Kaine


http://www.insiderpages.com/b/15246758898/rs-landscape-maintenance-canby
RS Landscape Maintenance
★★★★★ 7 Reviews
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866-750-8931
Po Box 347 Canby, OR 97013
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beejay says:
July 15, 2010 at 9:50 am
I did not beejay, but I will not post his address.
Let’s say he can be found in both Clackamas and Multnomah counties.
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Reply #44 on: September 14, 2010, 06:20:43 PM »
…from Canby OR where RS has a PO Box (347) for his landscaping business.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8553.60
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Rudy Sanchez is RS Landscaping Maintenance in Canby




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Reply #38 on: September 14, 2010, 06:10:52 PM

Rudy Sanchez is listed as Rodolfo Sanchez Estrada. If that is the case, then the 2 men are likely to be brothers. Sanchez would be their father’s name and Estrada would be their mother’s name. For the short version of the names, it would normally be the father’s name (Sanchez), not the last in the line of names. (Given all that’s gone on, I could understand (if so) using some intentional variation in names by Jaime, especially when starting a new business after the attention Rudy has gotten.)




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RUDY
If I start with R L Landscape Maintenance, which we have been told is the Rudy we are interested in, he has this license since 01-08-2008 and is listed as Rodolfo Sanchez, P O Box 347, Canby OR 97013 and 7169 SE Renada St., Milwaukie, OR 97267. The Canby address goes back to Rudy Sanchez Landscape Maintenance 10-31-05 thru 11-01-07 with a physical address of 9850 SE Amherst Apt. 50, Clackamas, OR 97015


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Reply #13 on: September 13, 2010, 11:25:11 AM »

The Oregon Secretary of State Corporation Division shows license #300176-93 for Sanchez Nursery Sales, 955 S Pacific Hwy, Woodburn, OR 97071. The authorized representative on file is Maria G. Sanchez and the representative is Ubaldo Sanchez, with with the same address. This is Elsy Sanchez’s address on the missing kids poster.
(Pasted on page 7 reply #123)

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8553.0
PWhen reached at one of the numbers records show is billed in his brothers name, Jaime Estrada Sanchez, who uses the name Jaime Estrada on his carpet cleaning business website declined to comment to blinkoncrime.com and the number has since been disconnected

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8553.80
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 @ cartwheel and Rich M and anyone else researching the house related to Rudy – if you missed the posts I linked to above, you can go back and get some more information. I didn’t post the street number, but I have it and it’s part of public information. I wasn’t sure who else lives there now besides Jaime who seems to be Rudy’s brother – maybe people who are not involved in this case at all.
Rudy’s Canby address was only a PO Box. According to the Milwaukie tax map, the house isn’t actually in the Milwaukie city limits but is in Clackamas County. Rudy used this address for his business name application in Oregon – I’m not entirely sure whether he actually lived there at any point, or who else does besides Jaime




 
Addy for jaime estrada cleaning business
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8553.0
Jaime Estrada Sanchez, who uses the name Jaime Estrada on his carpet cleaning business website.
UBALDO SANCHEZ of 955 S PACIFIC HWY WOODBURN, OR 97071 is dba SANCHEZ NURSERY



Maria and ubaldo f sanchez addy
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Name MARIA G SANCHEZ
Addr 1 955 S PACIFIC HWY
Addr 2
CSZ WOODBURN OR 97071 Country UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Type REG REGISTRANT
Name UBALDO SANCHEZ
Addr 1 955 S PACIFIC HWY
Addr 2
CSZ WOODBURN OR 97071 Country UNITED STATES OF AMERICA


http://apps.co.marion.or.us/PropertyRecords/PropertySummary.aspx?pid=R13963
955 S Pacific Hwy., Woodburn OR 97071 is owned by Maria and Ubaldo F Sanchez
Their address is 459 4th Street, Woodburn OR 97071
955 S Pacific is listed as a nursery, (go to zillow for a picture) but it also has a single family residence. Perhaps Ubaldo and Maria rented this to Elsy and her husband?




http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8553.0
955 S Pacific Hwy., Woodburn OR 97071 is owned by Maria and Ubaldo F Sanchez
Their address is 459 4th Street, Woodburn OR 97071

955 S Pacific is listed as a nursery, (go to zillow for a picture) but it also has a single family residence

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September 13, 2010 at 2:27 am
Address SANCHEZ NURSERY SALES LLC
WOODBURN, OR 97071
County Marion
Fax xxxxxxxx
License Number xxxxxxx
License Status Active
Expiration Date 06/30/2011
License Type Nursery Dealers, Florists and Landscapers



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Maria Sanchez has a landscape buiness in Hillsboro, close to FM#1. The date on the business registration is May 26th 2010, exactly on week after Elsy took off. The address on the registration is 271195, but it really is 27195 SW Farmington, Hillsboro, WASHINGTON COUNTY, Oregon. Zillow shows it last sold 2003. WA County tax records didn’t show the owner but there is a document referenced.


Ubaldo Sanchez, 745 NE 162nd, Portland, OR

I did a zillow search on the 162nd Avenue building


Address listed for elsy


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the link that I found, so far, between Elsy Mejia and the Sanchez group is that she is listed in the white pages as living with Ubaldo.
745 NE 162nd Ave
Portland, OR 97230-5749
Household: Mejia Elsie,
Ubaldo is listed at the Highway 99 address for the business(es) along with Maria G Sanchez

@Puzzled and others: the link that I found, so far, between Elsy Mejia and the Sanchez group is that she is listed in the white pages as living with Ubaldo.

745 NE 162nd Ave
Portland, OR 97230-5749
Household: Mejia Elsie,

Ubaldo is listed at the Highway 99 address for the business(es) along with Maria G Sanchez. Unfortunately it gets confusing when additional names are thrown into the mix such as Ubaldo going as Fernandez or Fernand, or using B as a middle initial and I think there is an R middle initial with one of them as well. I have not figured out who is who yet.




Address listed for anselemo


Addy for jamie and ubaldo missing children
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8553.0
The two missing Sanchez children are named Jamie (age 5) and Ubaldo (age 1) and they were living at the 955 S Pacific Hwy address.
Could it be that these two children were born in the US and issued SS#’s which are now being used by adult Jamie Estrada Sanchez and adult Ubaldo Sanchez?



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September 14, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Thanks Neighbor,
Here is some names that I found associated with Rudy
Rodolfo E Sanchez
36
• Canby, OR
• Clackamas, OR
• Woodburn, OR
• Oregon City, OR
• Rodolfo Sanchez
• Luis Lopez
• Rene Lopez
• Roberto Lopez Sanchez
• Florentino Mendoza
Blink, FYI I am using another computer, hubby has my laptop, somtimes it puts me in spam if I switch


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enumclawrose says:
September 14, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Blinks response to Shelly 09/13 11:19 pm
We are talking about 2 different families, 2 different events.
The family they were looking for (Via Roger) had a child that went to school with Kyron and then the Sanchez and their alleged abductor. I can connect LS to a Ubaldo R in Woodburn, yes.
Puzzled, you had a post a couple of days ago with Elsy @ 955 S Pacific Hwy. Were you able to confirm her to that address? If so, I think that is HUGE, because if, like Blink says, she can connect Ubaldo R in Woodburn, and if he is at the S Pacific Hwy address, to LS (Rudy Sanchez), then Elsy is connected to Rudy.


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« Reply #128 on: September 18, 2010, 05:23:34 PM »

Sacky,

Do we know if RS is still in the area?

i heard that same question at blink but no answer. you would think that since the mfh is still probably an open investigation, (they dropped the contempt of court related to the showing mc the r/o),  but not the mfh stuff i beleive.
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« Reply #129 on: September 18, 2010, 08:43:14 PM »

hey spodie, do you remember if th or dede has accused or thrown suspiscion onto the landscaper? the reason i ask is that if they and rs were involved it wouldnt make sense to give attention to him, they would want him to fall off the face of the earth. just thinkin. still wondering what happened to elsy sanchez and her kids though. if he looks related to this case then i say keep digging but if you dont think he is, then i will just hope le investigates him seperately, and not spend so much time on him, i dunno, what do you think?   flymonkey is friend of dede spicher allegedly

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8508.920

Reply #930 on: September 18, 2010, 06:14:02 PM
FlyMonkey...what do YOU think happened to Kyron?

I have no idea. I have never met any of the family, never seen the school, never been anywhere near it or the house. I don't have enough knowledge or info to form a theory. I guess I would not be surprised if the landscaper turned out to have something to do with it, but I have no basis from which to advance any theories.
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« Reply #130 on: September 18, 2010, 09:01:02 PM »


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38.Idahogal says:
September 18, 2010 at 11:52 am

Freddy Sanchez did show up on the Cornelius Pass Rd address through Peoplefinder. I did a reverse address search on 411.com and found several names at this address that indicted it is an apartment building. Anselmo Sanchez-Sanchez a/k/a/Freddy Sanchez is 28 on the document we have on this website. The Freddy at this address is older but is no longer there according to 411. As far as him being the one on June 4th to have a part in Ky’s disappearance, it’s unlikely, as we have been lead to believe he was incarcerated at that time. We have been lead to believe that he could have participated in the sting on June 26th.

37.Whaazupwitchu says:
September 18, 2010 at 11:20 am

I did an FMCSA Motor Carrier search and found that Ulbaldo Sanchez had his USDOT # revoked on 03/25/09 under his name with a dba Sanchez Nursery. Gabriel Sanchez of Sanchez Transport, at a different Woodburn address, had his revoked 07/19/05.

As far as the business mentoring goes, I would hate to besmirch the meaningful contribution they are making. It just bothers me when I can’t find the legal information on an enterprise, and we all know anyone can say anything on a website, but is it true? It makes me wonder if BPN and OEA are related since they provide essentially the same services to small businesses. If they are related, then Jaime could be linked to Oaxaca. That said, it is possible that just one nefarious businessman is a member in an otherwise legitimate enterprise.

For anyone wondering how these names go together and why we are searching, must of us simply do not know EXACTLY. Is it more than interesting that two other children went missing with their mother Elsy Sanchez a/k/a Meija – Puerto just before Ky. I think so, especially since there was a felony warrant issued for her and Blink told us there was no custody agreement in place to justify this warrant. Blink also said LE must really want to speak with her
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« Reply #131 on: September 19, 2010, 01:38:29 AM »

back to the begining:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/09/09/kyron-horman-missing-case-review-and-birthday-wishes-to-the-frog-prince/

enumclawrose says:
September 18, 2010 at 11:59 pm
For R.S. 09/18 11:03
“Speaking on the condition of anonymity, a close family friend who has since been interviewed by the FBI, has confirmed that Terri Horman is pointing her finger directly at Sanchez. She has also stated that she and Sanchez had an altercation after she attempted to end their relationship in May which ended in a 911 call and a visit from Clackamas County Sheriff Office in the presence of Sanchez’s wife and children.” – snip from Case Review and Bithday Wishes to the Frog Prince
Ten days later Elsy Sanchez disappears with two children and a federal warrant is issued for her arrest a month and a half later.
Some of us are just trying to figure out if Elsy could be related to Rudy & Associates. The little girl’s birthday was the day after Ky went missing


enumclawrose says:
September 19, 2010 at 12:22 am
“Sanchez’s wife and children.” – snip of a snip from Case Review and Birthday Wishes to the Frog Prince.
Rudy has more than one child.

puzzled says:
September 19, 2010 at 12:49 am
27.enumclawrose says:
September 18, 2010 at 11:59 pm
Ten days later Elsy Sanchez disappears with two children and a federal warrant is issued for her arrest a month and a half later.

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« Reply #132 on: September 19, 2010, 01:41:52 AM »

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September 18, 2010 at 11:38 pm
I did a little reading on Spanish/Mexican surnames. I know someone else posted information about this as well. Essentially, the first surname is the father’s name and the second surname is the mothers.
Elsy Leonor Mejia-Sanchez a/k/a Elsy Mejia-Puerto
Jamie Mejia (older)
Ubaldo Sanchez-Mejia (younger)
Working backwards from the little boy:
UBALDO MEJIA-SANCHEZ
Ublado’s dad’s surname would be Sanchez, so a Sanchez Estrada, or a Sanchez ****anyname**** could be his father. (This means that Rudy and Jaime are candidates.)
Ubaldo’s mom’s (Elsy’s) surname would be Mejia (her father’s name).
JAMIE MEJIA
Since we know her mom is Elsy, we can assume that the father’s name has been dropped.
ELSY LEONOR MEJIA-SANCHEZ
Elsy (first name) Leonor (middle name) MEJIA (father’s name) SANCHEZ (husband’s name)
ELSY MEJIA-PUERTO
Elsy (first name) MEJIA (father’s name) PUERTO (MOTHERS NAME? OR EX-HUSBANDS NAME?) ?????
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« Reply #133 on: September 19, 2010, 01:54:36 AM »

hey spodie, do you remember if th or dede has accused or thrown suspiscion onto the landscaper? the reason i ask is that if they and rs were involved it wouldnt make sense to give attention to him, they would want him to fall off the face of the earth. just thinkin. still wondering what happened to elsy sanchez and her kids though. if he looks related to this case then i say keep digging but if you dont think he is, then i will just hope le investigates him seperately, and not spend so much time on him, i dunno, what do you think?   flymonkey is friend of dede spicher allegedly

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8508.920

Reply #930 on: September 18, 2010, 06:14:02 PM
FlyMonkey...what do YOU think happened to Kyron?

I have no idea. I have never met any of the family, never seen the school, never been anywhere near it or the house. I don't have enough knowledge or info to form a theory. I guess I would not be surprised if the landscaper turned out to have something to do with it, but I have no basis from which to advance any theories.


hey spodie (hehe this is ok i hope), thinking like if we were in something together, why would i point the finger at you? well i would do that if i thought them coppers was gona nail me and i wanted to cut a deal by giving info on you or making it out to be all your fault! hmmm what ya think? sorry to use you as an accomplice dudette.
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« Reply #134 on: September 22, 2010, 03:58:08 PM »

Hi sackyattack!

I see you have been busy on this Rudy thread! 

The news articles are a good point of reference, but I would sure like to hear some of your Monkey thoughts on Rudy.    an angelic monkey
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