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Tibrogargan
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February 15, 2007, 06:46:50 PM »
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Sun that is terrible... we need a thread most definately to keep up with you and what happens...
I will be praying for a good out come without any harm...
Hi Mrs Red.
Yes Sunfreak, we need a separate thread and then if you need help with anything we can give this fruitcake of a woman the Monkey Treatment.
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The door was unlocked
OF
are we still in the party mood?
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This conversation posted at RU:
Lazlo Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:35 pm
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apodixis wrote:
Does anyone have a translation of the court decision, other than the one from the link to SM ?
I would guess so, it almost seems as if ppl are hesitative to post the full.
My response to the above: Gee, I wonder why MF and Glenda aren't posting/translating the full court decision?
I always thought Glenda (JR) did not know Crap about Pap...
But I'v been wrong before
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Quote from: "oldfart"
The door was unlocked
OF
are we still in the party mood?
Not tonight... have you been back to the party room?
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Reply #24 on:
February 15, 2007, 06:51:52 PM »
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Quote from: "klaasend"
This conversation posted at RU:
Lazlo Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:35 pm
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apodixis wrote:
Does anyone have a translation of the court decision, other than the one from the link to SM ?
I would guess so, it almost seems as if ppl are hesitative to post the full.
My response to the above: Gee, I wonder why MF and Glenda aren't posting/translating the full court decision?
I always thought Glenda (JR) did not know Crap about Pap...
But I'v been wrong before
Actually, Glenda doesn't. My point is that they don't want to post it because the judge refers to Paulus picking up Joran and Natalee.
FYI - I suspect the official court document is in Dutch as all legal documents in Aruba are. It would not be in Pap. According to Glenda she cannot speak Dutch either.
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Artcolley
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February 15, 2007, 06:54:01 PM »
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O/T
- Da judge is in the court
I have been invited to appear on Judge Judy and Judge Joe Brown. I recently filed a case in Magistrates court for $14,000.00 against a woman who won't return one of my Yorkies. When I was hospitalized I had my dogs boarded at the vet. A lady I don't know, never met, who is an ex-employee and friend of the vet, paid my vet bill and the kennel released my dogs to her. I never gave her permission. Hell, I didn't even know the lady. She held my dogs ransom and demanded a dog. I repaid the vet bill, but she would not sign a receipt, nor would she take a check or money order. She refused to meet with me, my sister or BIL. I have asked her numerous times to return my dog as she is part of my breeding program. The vet has asked her to return my dog, and the coporate office has asked her to return my dog. She refuses and said she would only turn over the dog if the Judge ruled in my favor. I whelped that dog, have had her since she drew her first breath. I have Registration papers in her, and own her mother & father. The lady is insane. Every lawyer I have spoken to has said she would lose the case.
On top of that, my dogs came home (except for the one she would not return) flea infested and with flea nests. She cut their whiskers off, cut their topknots off, cut the hair around their eyes, and chopped and lopped their full-length coats. She fed them Little Caesars crap food which is full of fat. My dogs could have gotten pancreatitis from that food. She never bathed them or groomed them, and when I got them home and bathed them the water turned black. They stunk like feces and urine. She let 2 of my dogs mate, and would not tell me when they mated. Then I found out she has a large intact male that could have gotten her. If the big dog did, my dog could have died giving birth. On top of that, she may have damaged my prized stud who comes from a line of over 120 Champions on both sides of his parents. I don't know if he will ever be able to reproduce again. In addition, she lives in a tiny house has 5 nig dogs and 9 cats of her own. Plus nine of my dogs.
Very interesting case. She's nuts. She threatened to take out a restraining order on me when I went to her house with the Sheriff to ask her to give my baby back. She's a whacko.
WOW!!!
Be sure and let us know when you are to appear! I want to watch this!
That woman IS a nutjob. Good Grief!
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SunFreak2
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February 15, 2007, 06:54:06 PM »
Quote from: "Tibrogargan"
Has it affected their temperaments at all? I mean made them nervous or wary of people. I am so sorry for you and the dogs in particular. What a ratbag of a woman.
Yes, it has affected their personalities. It makes me sick what she did to my dogs. Yes, I will probably sue the vet and the vet hospital/kennel too.
They basically washed their hands of it and told me we were both adult women and needed to work this out ourselves. They are no longer my vet. It was totally their mistake and their responsibility. My friend who worked at that vet was fired, even though she had nothing to do with it.
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San
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Reply #27 on:
February 15, 2007, 06:55:02 PM »
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "klaasend"
This conversation posted at RU:
Lazlo Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:35 pm
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apodixis wrote:
Does anyone have a translation of the court decision, other than the one from the link to SM ?
I would guess so, it almost seems as if ppl are hesitative to post the full.
My response to the above: Gee, I wonder why MF and Glenda aren't posting/translating the full court decision?
I always thought Glenda (JR) did not know Crap about Pap...
But I'v been wrong before
Glenda knows Crap but she doesn't know Pap
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Artcolley
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Reply #28 on:
February 15, 2007, 06:55:49 PM »
Quote from: "Tibrogargan"
Good Morning Monkeys.
I see the party atmosphere has filtered over here. The sunshine is so bright this morning....... Last time I saw Cat he was behind the piano purring loudly. Love everyone's new avatar. Will have to put on my shamrock outfit soon too. Hope CBB is alright.
Very good news out of the Aruban Triangle. Things are starting to fall into place and as I have said before Anita is in it up to her bra straps.
Now we have Paulus picking up Joran and dear Natalee at Macca's, which makes more sense than the 2K version. Was this when she fell and hit her head - getting into Paulus' car and was that when Joran had to pick her up to carry her? A little bit of truth is always mixed in with all the lies.
Boy, you got THAT right!
I think things are beginning to unravel...finally!!!!
And..Good Morning to you!!!
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bleachedblack
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February 15, 2007, 06:56:25 PM »
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "oldfart"
The door was unlocked
OF
are we still in the party mood?
Not tonight... have you been back to the party room?
No, I have a little hangover....haven't been back.
But I was noticing your mask?
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San
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Reply #30 on:
February 15, 2007, 06:56:27 PM »
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "klaasend"
This conversation posted at RU:
Lazlo Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:35 pm
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apodixis wrote:
Does anyone have a translation of the court decision, other than the one from the link to SM ?
I would guess so, it almost seems as if ppl are hesitative to post the full.
My response to the above: Gee, I wonder why MF and Glenda aren't posting/translating the full court decision?
I always thought Glenda (JR) did not know Crap about Pap...
But I'v been wrong before
Actually, Glenda doesn't. My point is that they don't want to post it because the judge refers to Paulus picking up Joran and Natalee.
FYI - I suspect the official court document is in Dutch as all legal documents in Aruba are. It would not be in Pap. According to Glenda she cannot speak Dutch either.
She can't speak English either
OK I'll stop now.
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Buckeye
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Reply #31 on:
February 15, 2007, 06:56:45 PM »
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "klaasend"
This conversation posted at RU:
Lazlo Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:35 pm
Quote
apodixis wrote:
Does anyone have a translation of the court decision, other than the one from the link to SM ?
I would guess so, it almost seems as if ppl are hesitative to post the full.
My response to the above: Gee, I wonder why MF and Glenda aren't posting/translating the full court decision?
I always thought Glenda (JR) did not know Crap about Pap...
But I'v been wrong before
Actually, Glenda doesn't. My point is that they don't want to post it because the judge refers to Paulus picking up Joran and Natalee.
FYI - I suspect the official court document is in Dutch as all legal documents in Aruba are. It would not be in Pap. According to Glenda she cannot speak Dutch either.
Lazlo/Victor has challenged them for a full translation and nailed
MF
(Ruben Trappenberg in my opinion) for not mentioning the article stated Joran AND Natalee. He shouldn't buy their opinion about the witnesses being from MB either ...IMO
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Quote from: "Freebird"
Ruth McVay:
(responding to questions whether Natalee made an arrangement with Joran to go to Carlos ‘n Charlies) Not with him. Absolutely not. With us. She went with all of our friends. He wasn’t with us. He didn’t go with us. He (Joran) came with his friends. He had told us that night that Sunday was not a fun night on the island and that no one goes out. So we found it ironic that he showed up.
It has always troubled me that Joran said Sunday was a dead night at C&C, then proceeded to call several buddies to join him there. The question just came to mind: I wonder if he was trying to get the MB girls to go somewhere else of his choosing, trying to sway them from going to C&C? When that didn't work, he decided to join them instead at their chosen destination. No way to know, of course, just wondering aloud...
Good point and entirely possible. Now, reading the FP of SM I'm wondering again how involved Paulus is.
In my opinion, VERY INVOLVED.
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February 15, 2007, 06:57:00 PM »
Quote from: "oldfart"
SunFreak
I'm so sorry to hear this.
How did Judge Judy or Judge Joe Brown get involved?
I know I"m full of qusetions
Thanks
The TV judges have people who scout cases and they found mine very interesting, so they contacted me. I have a million questions for them and have made no decision yet.
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Artcolley
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February 15, 2007, 06:58:27 PM »
Quote from: "oldfart"
SunFreak
I'm so sorry to hear this.
Why in the world did the VET allow her to pay your bill?
Is the Vet part of the leagal suit?
Did you also pay the vet?
How did Judge Judy or Judge Joe Brown get involved?
I know I"m full of qusetions
Thanks
Good POint, OF.
Id be thinking of suing the vet as well.
A good breeding program is very valualbe and takes years to build.
This is just horrible.
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February 15, 2007, 06:59:54 PM »
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Sun that is terrible... we need a thread most definately to keep up with you and what happens...
I will be praying for a good out come without any harm...
Yes, definitely this needs its own thread.
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Artcolley
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February 15, 2007, 07:01:14 PM »
Quote from: "klaasend"
This conversation posted at RU:
Lazlo Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:35 pm
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apodixis wrote:
Does anyone have a translation of the court decision, other than the one from the link to SM ?
I would guess so, it almost seems as if ppl are hesitative to post the full.
My response to the above: Gee, I wonder why MF and Glenda aren't posting/translating the full court decision?
Oh Gee. I wonder why????
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Klaasend
"Actually, Glenda doesn't. My point is that they don't want to post it because the judge refers to Paulus picking up Joran and Natalee. "
True... but I would have guessed they would want to post it and attempt to disprove who said what. And I did not think about it being in Dutch.
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February 15, 2007, 07:02:43 PM »
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "klaasend"
This conversation posted at RU:
Lazlo Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:35 pm
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apodixis wrote:
Does anyone have a translation of the court decision, other than the one from the link to SM ?
I would guess so, it almost seems as if ppl are hesitative to post the full.
My response to the above: Gee, I wonder why MF and Glenda aren't posting/translating the full court decision?
I always thought Glenda (JR) did not know Crap about Pap...
But I'v been wrong before
Glenda knows Crap but she doesn't know Pap
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Quote from: "oldfart"
SunFreak
I'm so sorry to hear this.
How did Judge Judy or Judge Joe Brown get involved?
I know I"m full of qusetions
Thanks
The TV judges have people who scout cases and they found mine very interesting, so they contacted me. I have a million questions for them and have made no decision yet.
My problem would be how much time I would be allowed to state my case. Those shows seem so short and I know they are edited but I also would want to make sure everything is heard. I always see Judge Judy cutting people short and if she does this it would concern me that she might not hear the facts due to time constraint.
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