Natalee Case Discussion #848 9/25/2010 - 10/7/10

[texasmom]

I want to know how Dilma Arends Geerman knew that Joran was pre-warned about Beth
and Peter coming to Castro Castro.

If it is true that he was pre-warned, who told him?

My guess would be that Dilma's just lying again.   

But since the visit was done through the proper procedures, I guess maybe a guard could have warned him she was coming.  If so, couldn't he have just refused to see her?  Or if he wanted to see her, wouldn't he have arranged for his lawyer to be there for the conversation?

More than likely Dilma (and her bff Anita) just want everyone to think that somebody one-upped Peter R. DeVries and Beth Holloway. (they can keep on dreamin'...it ain't happenin')  She didn't say how much pre-warning he had, could have simply been five seconds before he was face to face with them.  Just time enough for him (while crapping his pants) to pull his lawyers card that he was using for a book mark in his most recent "novel" out to give them.   

JMO

[Magnolia]

I want to know how Dilma Arends Geerman knew that Joran was pre-warned about Beth
and Peter coming to Castro Castro.

If it is true that he was pre-warned, who told him?

My guess would be that Dilma's just lying again.   

But since the visit was done through the proper procedures, I guess maybe a guard could have warned him she was coming.  If so, couldn't he have just refused to see her?  Or if he wanted to see her, wouldn't he have arranged for his lawyer to be there for the conversation?

More than likely Dilma (and her bff Anita) just want everyone to think that somebody one-upped Peter R. DeVries and Beth Holloway. (they can keep on dreamin'...it ain't happenin')  She didn't say how much pre-warning he had, could have simply been five seconds before he was face to face with them.  Just time enough for him (while crapping his pants) to pull his lawyers card that he was using for a book mark in his most recent "novel" out to give them.   

JMO

I think it was Maximum Highness that said they had to take him out to the visitor's room kicking
and screaming.

[texasmom]

I want to know how Dilma Arends Geerman knew that Joran was pre-warned about Beth
and Peter coming to Castro Castro.

If it is true that he was pre-warned, who told him?

My guess would be that Dilma's just lying again.   

But since the visit was done through the proper procedures, I guess maybe a guard could have warned him she was coming.  If so, couldn't he have just refused to see her?  Or if he wanted to see her, wouldn't he have arranged for his lawyer to be there for the conversation?

More than likely Dilma (and her bff Anita) just want everyone to think that somebody one-upped Peter R. DeVries and Beth Holloway. (they can keep on dreamin'...it ain't happenin')  She didn't say how much pre-warning he had, could have simply been five seconds before he was face to face with them.  Just time enough for him (while crapping his pants) to pull his lawyers card that he was using for a book mark in his most recent "novel" out to give them.   

JMO

I think it was Maximum Highness that said they had to take him out to the visitor's room kicking
and screaming.

Exactly.   

[Bearlyhere]

I want to know how Dilma Arends Geerman knew that Joran was pre-warned about Beth
and Peter coming to Castro Castro.

If it is true that he was pre-warned, who told him?

My guess would be that Dilma's just lying again.   

But since the visit was done through the proper procedures, I guess maybe a guard could have warned him she was coming.  If so, couldn't he have just refused to see her?  Or if he wanted to see her, wouldn't he have arranged for his lawyer to be there for the conversation?

More than likely Dilma (and her bff Anita) just want everyone to think that somebody one-upped Peter R. DeVries and Beth Holloway. (they can keep on dreamin'...it ain't happenin')  She didn't say how much pre-warning he had, could have simply been five seconds before he was face to face with them.  Just time enough for him (while crapping his pants) to pull his lawyers card that he was using for a book mark in his most recent "novel" out to give them.   

JMO

I think it was Maximum Highness that said they had to take him out to the visitor's room kicking
and screaming.

Exactly.   

He always seems to be kicking when he is upset.

 

[spooky112483]

The lady doth protest too much. And that's all I'm gonna say right now.
 

[crazybabyborg]

Hi Spooky!!   

I would love to have been a fly on the wall whenever it was that Joran realized he was about to sit down across from Beth!

[texasmom]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/natalee_face_off_gYxTwPd7wU8tfJZSfkITiN

[crazybabyborg]

I love the picture, TM!!

[texasmom]

Hi Spooky!!   

I would love to have been a fly on the wall whenever it was that Joran realized he was about to sit down across from Beth!

 

[spooky112483]

Yes, thanks, Magnolia, I am feeling a bit better.  When I have one problem, it makes the others  worse, etc. but hope to be feeling much better especially next week.  The ole week to ten days schedule.

But for me the bottom line is I heard what I heard and think what I think and know what I know.  I know what I heard.

It sure does seem some of these men go to Aruba to look for Natalee and get to having one heck of a good time, too.  Odd, that.  Makes me wonder just what the big attraction there really is.  I mean, those manmade beaches are certainly not peculiar to Aruba so has to be something else.

Oh, well.  I am certainly glad Beth took some steps to counter the THREE books being written currently as revisionist history on this tragedy.

At least some one is trying to keep the record straight and the truth out there.

I am truly looking forward to seeing what she and Peter dV have produced in this regard.  Would still love to see the expression on Joran's mug when he saw her there, lol.

Make that 4 books. Didn't Rob just tell us that TJ is currently writing a book too? Gee, what a coincidence 
Oops, I said I wasn't gonna say anything else right now. It's this big fat mouth of mine that has no off button or filter.
But while I'm here lemme just say that blind defense of anyone at this point is disgusting. Like you said Anna, we know what we know, we know what we heard, and we all know the truth. No one can distract us from it. NO ONE

[texasmom]

I love the picture, TM!!

Thanks CBB!  

[spooky112483]

Hi Spooky!!   

I would love to have been a fly on the wall whenever it was that Joran realized he was about to sit down across from Beth!

I'm all caught up now!
Love you so much CBB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[spooky112483]

Hi Spooky!!   

I would love to have been a fly on the wall whenever it was that Joran realized he was about to sit down across from Beth!

I'm all caught up now!
Love you so much CBB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and you too Texasmom!!!!! 

[texasmom]

I looked at TES's tax records for 2007, last year filed.
http://www.nonprofit-compensation.com/NPO/index.cfm?FuseAction=NPO.Summary&EIN=760664878&BMF=1&Cobrandid=2&Syndicate=No
Hope I copied that link correctly.
He takes in way less, $ 336,000 in donations for 2007 than I would have guessed. About 50 % goes to search expenses, the other half goes for keeping the lights on. There are no big salaries paid to anyone.
Comparatively to earlier years, they do better each successive year.
....
Back to that dress Anita is wearing, she looks slightly tipsy, wouldn't like to see it walking or moving around in that outfit.

Thanks kat_gram!   

Professional fundraising fees?  $0 2005, $60,800 2006, $34,500 2007 

Anyone have any idea what those charges would actually be for?

[texasmom]

Hi Spooky!!   

I would love to have been a fly on the wall whenever it was that Joran realized he was about to sit down across from Beth!

I'm all caught up now!
Love you so much CBB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and you too Texasmom!!!!! 

    

[texasmom]

[Bearlyhere]

I looked at TES's tax records for 2007, last year filed.
http://www.nonprofit-compensation.com/NPO/index.cfm?FuseAction=NPO.Summary&EIN=760664878&BMF=1&Cobrandid=2&Syndicate=No
Hope I copied that link correctly.
He takes in way less, $ 336,000 in donations for 2007 than I would have guessed. About 50 % goes to search expenses, the other half goes for keeping the lights on. There are no big salaries paid to anyone.
Comparatively to earlier years, they do better each successive year.
....
Back to that dress Anita is wearing, she looks slightly tipsy, wouldn't like to see it walking or moving around in that outfit.

Thanks kat_gram!   

Professional fundraising fees?  $0 2005, $60,800 2006, $34,500 2007 

Anyone have any idea what those charges would actually be for?

Paying people to speak at the fundraisers or in their behalf?

[Rob]

Yes, thanks, Magnolia, I am feeling a bit better.  When I have one problem, it makes the others  worse, etc. but hope to be feeling much better especially next week.  The ole week to ten days schedule.

But for me the bottom line is I heard what I heard and think what I think and know what I know.  I know what I heard.

It sure does seem some of these men go to Aruba to look for Natalee and get to having one heck of a good time, too.  Odd, that.  Makes me wonder just what the big attraction there really is.  I mean, those manmade beaches are certainly not peculiar to Aruba so has to be something else.

Oh, well.  I am certainly glad Beth took some steps to counter the THREE books being written currently as revisionist history on this tragedy.

At least some one is trying to keep the record straight and the truth out there.

I am truly looking forward to seeing what she and Peter dV have produced in this regard.  Would still love to see the expression on Joran's mug when he saw her there, lol.

Make that 4 books. Didn't Rob just tell us that TJ is currently writing a book too? Gee, what a coincidence 
Oops, I said I wasn't gonna say anything else right now. It's this big fat mouth of mine that has no off button or filter.
But while I'm here lemme just say that blind defense of anyone at this point is disgusting. Like you said Anna, we know what we know, we know what we heard, and we all know the truth. No one can distract us from it. NO ONE

I don't think TJ's book has anything to do with Natalee. Or, maybe I should say - it's not a Natalee book.

I think it's about him.

Maybe there will be a reference to what he did in the case. And I think he picked 4 cases that he was involved with but I don't know which they are.

This book has been in the works for a few years - but finally is getting completed.

If I find out any more - I'll letcha all know. 

[carpe noctem]

I looked at TES's tax records for 2007, last year filed.
http://www.nonprofit-compensation.com/NPO/index.cfm?FuseAction=NPO.Summary&EIN=760664878&BMF=1&Cobrandid=2&Syndicate=No
Hope I copied that link correctly.
He takes in way less, $ 336,000 in donations for 2007 than I would have guessed. About 50 % goes to search expenses, the other half goes for keeping the lights on. There are no big salaries paid to anyone.
Comparatively to earlier years, they do better each successive year.
....
Back to that dress Anita is wearing, she looks slightly tipsy, wouldn't like to see it walking or moving around in that outfit.

Thanks kat_gram!   

Professional fundraising fees?  $0 2005, $60,800 2006, $34,500 2007 

Anyone have any idea what those charges would actually be for?

Paying people to speak at the fundraisers or in their behalf?

Beer? MMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm 

[texasmom]

I looked at TES's tax records for 2007, last year filed.
http://www.nonprofit-compensation.com/NPO/index.cfm?FuseAction=NPO.Summary&EIN=760664878&BMF=1&Cobrandid=2&Syndicate=No
Hope I copied that link correctly.
He takes in way less, $ 336,000 in donations for 2007 than I would have guessed. About 50 % goes to search expenses, the other half goes for keeping the lights on. There are no big salaries paid to anyone.
Comparatively to earlier years, they do better each successive year.
....
Back to that dress Anita is wearing, she looks slightly tipsy, wouldn't like to see it walking or moving around in that outfit.

Thanks kat_gram!   

Professional fundraising fees?  $0 2005, $60,800 2006, $34,500 2007 

Anyone have any idea what those charges would actually be for?

Paying people to speak at the fundraisers or in their behalf?

Beer? MMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm 

I was thinking maybe speaker fees too, but you could be right carpe!

Could be some of both I guess!