Natalee Case Discussion #848 9/25/2010 - 10/7/10

[klaasend]

I found this recent sketch 



http://blog.woldhek.nl/

[Magnolia]

I found this recent sketch 



http://blog.woldhek.nl/

That scares me!

[2NJSons_Mom]

Maybe Steph Watts should call Tim Miller again and interview him to discuss the latest jail break by Joran and how it messed up their plans 

 

My bet is that he will

Steph ?

I know you read here.

 

[2NJSons_Mom]

I found this recent sketch 



http://blog.woldhek.nl/

That scares me!

Yes, it is scary looking, for sure.

[Bearlyhere]

Maybe Steph Watts should call Tim Miller again and interview him to discuss the latest jail break by Joran and how it messed up their plans 

  ^5

[Tamikosmom]

Joran Van Der Sloot Attacks Prison Guard
LIMA, Peru, Oct. 1 (TOTI) --

Joran van der Sloot continues to have issues while incarcerated at Miguel Castro Castro prison in Peru. The latest incident saw van der Sloot go “berserk” and make an escape attempt only days after he was visited in the prison by the mother of Natalee Holloway.

The 23-year-old Dutchman exploded after he was fed food that he thought might be poisoned, said National Enquirer in an exclusive story. He tried to punch the guard and flee the cell block before he was tossed back into his cell. There, he ripped of his clothes and screamed: “People here want to kill me!”

The incident occurred on September 15, 2010, when Beth Twitty, who is Natalee's mother, visited him.

“After Beth confronted him, asking, 'What did you do with Natalee?' Joran realized how easy it was for anyone to get to him,” an insider said. “So when he got word that someone was trying to kill him with poisoned food, he went crazy.”

The thought of being poisoned isn't that far-fetched. Joran van der Sloot bragged recently that he had received $50,000 from the Dutch media. He was using that money to bribe guards. He was also using the cash to get gourmet meals that didn't come from the kitchen. That changed when he heard he was being targeted by a group of prisoners who were sickened by the charges he killed two young women.

“Those inmates got word to Joran that they were waiting for the day he'd have to eat regular prison food, and they'd make sure the food was poisoned.”

Four days after Beth Twitty visited, a prison guard who refused to take bribes from van der Sloot told the prisoner he would have to eat the same food as the other prisoners.

“Joran thought the guard was in on a plot to kill him, and he went totally berserk,” said an insider. “He yelled insults at the guard, and then threw a punch at him. Joran was hysterical. He was so crazy with fear of being murdered in prison that he started blindly running in a bid to escape. He made it through one door of the cell block and almost made it through a second door before another guard tackled him and held him down. If that guard hadn't acted so quickly, who knows how far Joran would have gone? He could have found a hiding place in jail that could have led to an escape.”

After that, Joran van der Sloot was quickly overpowered by other guards and put in a cell.

“The guards could hear him screaming, 'I want to get out! I haven't killed anybody, but people here want to kill me!' said the insider.

The guards responded by throwing Joran van der Sloot was thrown into solitary confinement.

“All the cockiness has been drained from him now,” said the insider. “Joran now realizes that he can't buy everyone.”

http://www.timesoftheinternet.com/147851.html

When taking the two articles into consideration ... it appears that money/bribes cannot buy Joran everything he desires.  His peace of mind and his freedom remain elusive.

Janet

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JORAN CELLBLOCK MONEY RIOT
Published on: 08/09/2010

.... The Dutch thug, 23, is being held at Lima's Miguel Castro Castro prison on charges he murdered Peruvian student Stephany Flores, 21. He remains the prime suspect in Natalee's death. Yet he lives a cushy existence thanks to a Dutch media company he says paid him a staggering $50,000 for an interview.

Now, in an outrageous reversal of sanity, prison guards are Joran's personal servants. He plays cards with them, and they even allowed him to buy fancy shoes and clothes for his prison pal Hugo Trujillo Ospina -  "The Clown" - a paid assassin who's been protecting him from other inmates' sexual attacks, The ENQUIRER has learned.

Joran is ensuring his safety by becoming the prison "Santo Klaus" - buying cigarettes and garments for the most dangerous inmates and donating to their favorite charity to send a 3-year-old Peruvian girl for medical care in the U.S.

The huge interview fee, which Joran uses for his bribes and luxury living, is reportedly being funneled to him a small amount at a time by a local attorney.

Joran enjoys the amenities his payoffs allow, including gourmet meals of traditional Peruvian dishes, such as beef cooked with tomatoes and onions served with fried potatoes.

"It's disgraceful!" fumed Holloway family friend and investigator Art Wood. "This remorseless monster is being allowed to profit from his terrible crimes."

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/joran_van_der_slot_payoff_twitty_holloway_santo_klaus_/celebrity/69398

[klaasend]

That sketch makes him look like he is the walking dead.  He might as well be dead because his life is over.

[jen3560]

   Magnolia,

He is 2 months old on Monday.  He has gained 3 lbs and grown 4.3 inches!!    Dad has been doing the night time feedings this past week......I needed a break.    We couldn't be happier.  Thanks for asking. 

BTW - I agree with whomever posted that the guard should have shot Joran. 

[Tamikosmom]

KERMIT! 

Are you and your family in Aruba? 

<snipped>

SHHHH!

[Magnolia]

  Magnolia,

He is 2 months old on Monday.  He has gained 3 lbs and grown 4.3 inches!!    Dad has been doing the night time feedings this past week......I needed a break.    We couldn't be happier.  Thanks for asking. 

BTW - I agree with whomever posted that the guard should have shot Joran. 

What a big fine boy!!  I know he is a delight.  You are so lucky.

[Puzzler]

I think it's wonderful that Joran is scared for his life.

If because Beth spent 5 minutes in that gosh awful place to show Joran that she could still get to him, that it put the fear in him....good for her!

I hope he's scared for his life every day.  He needs to feel the fear that he thrust upon Natalee and Stephany.

[Tamikosmom]

I think it's wonderful that Joran is scared for his life.

If because Beth spent 5 minutes in that gosh awful place to show Joran that she could still get to him, that it put the fear in him....good for her!

I hope he's scared for his life every day.  He needs to feel the fear that he thrust upon Natalee and Stephany.

 

[Rob]

lots of "kicking" AGAIN. Endless kicking from that POS.

I hope he shoved his shoe(s) - one size 10.5 right and one size 14 left - down the crapper and they have to call in that idiot Dompig to retrieve 'em.

[Agraria]

So what's this about joran trying to escape prison? 

I was wondering about that too! I just got a google alert about it...Is it true?

Tricia

[Rob]

I'm all about a new reality show called - Let's See How Far You Can Make It Joran!

At sun up on Monday morning the prison guards fling open the prison doors, and Joran runs out the door with his supplies; a tennis racket, a pair of pants (no belt) and a bottle of peroxide.

He is to traverse from Peru to Alabama.

The camera crews will follow his every move and stream it live to the net.

He must first escape the mean streets of Peru, fighting off hardened killers to somehow survive in the desert of Peru as he makes his way north.

He must travel through Ecuador and the jungles of Colombia where he must elude the FARC or be captured and held hostage, then it's on to Barranquilla to work in his favorite whore house as Rudy Croes' number one girl.

Then, he will make his way further north, to Panama and Costa Rica.

If he is lucky and still alive, Joran may be used a mule to carry illegals north on his back.

As he enters Nicaragua and Honduras he thinks that the easiest part of his journey has finally arrived, only to discover that he will now be swallowing bolitos to take further north, along with all the illegals still hitching a ride on el burro.

It seems like a dream come true as he see the border of El Salvador, but this is where he receives his enema and the bolitos must be extracted with forceps. One at a time. No lube. He doesn't deserve it.

Finally, almost free of Central America and Guatemala looks like a nice place to catch his breath. To enjoy a few moments of relaxation. But not so fast. Joran must somehow enter a casino without being recognized and leave with all his fingers and toes still attached to his worthless Godless carcass.

Ahhh, Meheeeeco, and Joran has the Zetas, la Familie, Sinaloa, Gulf, Guerrero, Michoacán cartels all hot on his heels. They have the Nuevo Laredo cartel stationed up north in case he makes it that far. The cartels have taken the week off from the normal ho-hum life of a criminal enterprise to engage in a sport made for the Gods. Hunting the planet's biggest waste of human life and they are only to happy to participate.

At the Texas border are the good ole boys of the Texas Rangers. Ready to string him up by his nuts and drag him by horse back to Cajun Town; Louisiana.

The good citizens of Louisiana are happy to make sure he sees the end of his journey is in sight, and drag him through each and every gator infested swamp in the state on his way to the Mississippi.

At the border of Mississippi is - you guessed it - Hitler's sister. The REAL one. She's ready to send this sad sack of crap on his way to hell, and serves him up on his final RIDE. Box car to Sweet Home Alabama.

This is the end of the road for this dead ender.

[Tamikosmom]

Steph Watts

I’ve always said three people have profited off of Natalee Holloway’s murder; her murderer, the media, and her own mother.

Transcript - Texasmom



WATT'S UP WITH THIS? STEPH WATTS & TIM MILLER 9/19/2010

Steph Watts:  Somehow allegedly they got a camera through...uhhh into the Peruvian jail.  (?) and got an interview with Joran van der Sloot.  Here’s the problem Tim Miller, this is the issue I’m gonna have with that.  That interview is going to be sold.  It’s going to go to the highest bidder (Tim, big sigh)and I understand the intentions of Beth were for her to try to get answers, but then why do it on camera?

Tim Miller:  You know what Steph...I have to agree.  I was hoping that we wouldn’t have to touch on that subject, but you know what I’ve gotten many many other calls and emails on this

Transcript - Texasmom

Audio:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/09/20/watts-up-with-this#endframe


WATT'S UP WITH THIS? STEPH WATTS & TIM MILLER 9/19/2010

... And so for Beth to go over there...it’s one thing if she goes with herself and somebody else (?)  When you’re going over there and you’re taking cameras, now the reports are it’s gonna be about another documentary.  Ummm unfortunately (crosstalk) there is gonna be money involved and stuff and I..I..I..just have to totally disagree with her choice.  Totally disagree.

Transcript - Texasmom

Audio:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/09/20/watts-up-with-this#endframe


WATT'S UP WITH THIS? STEPH WATTS & TIM MILLER 9/19/2010

And again I would like to say I believe this is in Natalee’s best interest... and I would believe that if she wouldn’t have went over there with film crews and reports are already out it’s about another documentary.  Money’s going to be paid.  I ... I (crosstalk) It is almost like exploiting...and I know I’m going to get criticism over this but it’s only my opinion and uhhh uhhh it’s almost like... I feel like she’s exploiting Natalee’s disappearance and death for financial gain.

Transcript - Texasmom

Audio:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/09/20/watts-up-with-this#endframe


WATT'S UP WITH THIS? STEPH WATTS & TIM MILLER 9/19/2010

Steph Watts:  Tim let me ask you this... I want to ask you this... a couple of tough questions.  First of all, I’ve always said three people have profited off of Natalee Holloway’s murder; her murderer, the media, and her own mother.  Let me ask you this Tim, What’s the name of Beth Holloway’s organization?

Tim Miller:  I don’t even know.

Steph Watts:  Beth Holloway has an organization in the name of her daughter

<snipped>

Tim Miller:  If Beth really wants to make a difference and help people...you know we had more people disappear in the United States of America in the last twenty four hours... do you hear this ... twenty four hours, than Aruba has in their entire history.  This was a very isolated incident, I will not boycott Aruba.  The last time we was in Aruba, they was just friendly with us again and... and uhhh my Gd you know what let’s start at home to try to make a change.  Yes my sympathy goes out to Dave and Beth and everybody involved but when you start putting some money in the pockets, uhhh I don’t get it.

Transcript - Texasmom

Audio:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/09/20/watts-up-with-this#endframe


WATT'S UP WITH THIS? STEPH WATTS & TIM MILLER 9/19/2010

Steph Watts:  Here’s my question, and I want to ask you.  Has Beth Holloway ever donated any money towards Texas Equusearch from her organization which I know for a fact from which I understand made millions and millions of dollars in donations.

Tim Miller:  Can everybody just kind of read between the lines, then let’s go to the next subject.  I can say this.  Beth was supposed to come to one of our fundraisers this year.  She was supposed to come to one earlier in the year and then at the last minute had to back out and that was o.k.  And we had... you know she never travels alone...you know we had two airline tickets ummm that of course we lost.  And she was supposed to come to our other one that we had in April and the day before the Fundraiser she canceled and it was advertised all over that Beth was gonna be here.  And I’ve never forget what Beth said...she said well Tim I didn’t realize I was supposed to speak.  And I said Beth it’s not gonna be your (?) speech that you normally do on the dangers of traveling abroad, they’ve got you penciled in for four minutes just to say you know how much you appreciated Equusearch and what they did you know to try to find your daughter.  And she said well you know I get paid for speaking and it was like alright...so anyhow she wasn’t there uhh at that fundraiser so anyhow and you know I wish we wouldn’t of touched on that subject but the truth is the truth.

Transcript - Texasmom

Audio:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/09/20/watts-up-with-this#endframe

[Nut44x4]

So what's this about joran trying to escape prison? 

I was wondering about that too! I just got a google alert about it...Is it true?

Tricia

Unfu*******inggg believable 

[Tamikosmom]

Our prodigal monkeys?  Where is the rage in regards to his utter disrespect not only Beth but ... also Natalee?  Maybe unconditional forgiveness is where it is at.

Out of loyalty for Beth ... forgiveness is something that Tamikosmom will not afford until there is a GENUINE apology forthcoming from Tim Miller to the mother of Natalee Holloway ... to the father of Natalee Holloway and ... to the brother of Natalee Holloway.

Janet

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I Want the Natalee Holloway Case to Go Away!!!

WATT'S UP WITH THIS? STEPH WATTS & TIM MILLER 9/19/2010

Tim Miller:  I’m mad too and you know what Steph, I want the Caylee Anthony and Natalee Holloway cases to go away.  (Talks about Valerie Hamilton case)  But you know what..still...I don’t know why...I don’t know why...Casey Anthony and Beth Holloway are the big stories.  People, you need to get somethin’...Caylee and Natalee are not the only two people that have ever been abducted and murdered.  Those are not the only two people that have suffered.

Transcript - Texasmom

Audio:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/09/20/watts

[Tamikosmom]

Tim ... if you think for one minute the Natalee Holloway case is going to go away prior to the revealed truth regarding the events that encompass the morning of May 30, 2005 ... until Natalee is resting on American soil ... you have another think coming.

Another thing!  Everytime media focus is directed at the Natalee Holloway case ... the Persistence betrayal will again become a topic of discussion ... the betrayal that happened when what may have been Natalee's remains were afforded unchallenged to the Aruban enemy.

Janet

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A VOICE THAT WILL NOT BE SILENCED

'Scarborough Country' for Oct. 24th
updated 7:06 a.m. PT, Tues., Oct. 25, 2005

HOLLOWAY-TWITTY:  I met with Prime Minister Oduber. I don‘t care who you put the pressure on, where it comes from, but I want—you need to figure it out. You need to figure out who needs to apply the pressure and where it needs to be applied, because you have to solve this crime. I said, you do not want to turn me loose from this island without an answer.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9813596/


'Scarborough Country' for Oct. 24th
updated 7:06 a.m. PT, Tues., Oct. 25, 2005

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: ... I have told Prime Minister Oduber that I will do this, I will be the voice of Natalee for the next 40 years. And I hope I have that long, because I will do it as long as I can.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9813596/


Aruba Admission
Tuesday, August 23, 2005

TWITTY: I met him in his office. And you know, the main things that we went over in the meeting, Greta — you know, I wanted to make it perfectly clear that — you know, Aruba is a small island. We agreed upon that. And this island, you know, it's well connected. Everyone knows everyone. And I wanted to make sure he knew there's no way that I will accept not having answers as to where Natalee is. And if I have to spend the next 40 years being the voice for her out of Aruba

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166524,00.html


'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for Sept. 14th
updated 9:13 a.m. PT, Thurs., Sept. 15, 2005

TWITTY: We will keep going back to Aruba over and over again. This is far from over. They know—they have the answers there on the island.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9354188/


Mother confronts Aruba suspect
Holloway's mother questions Kalpoe about disappearance of missing teen

TWITTY:  I think it’s just the side that, you know, I—I will stop at nothing to get answers. There is nothing that I won’t do. There’s nowhere that I won’t go, and there’s nothing—I’m going to ask every question. I don’t care how painful it is. I will do it, because I’m not going to have any regrets.”

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/8885950/


Three men freed in Holloway case
Prosecutor: Judge's son, 2 others still under investigation
Monday, September 5, 2005; Posted: 5:43 a.m. EDT (09:43 GMT)

For the rest of my life, I will continue to be the voice for my daughter, seeking justice in Aruba. Every parent would want the same justice for their child.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/09/04/aruba.missing.teen/index.html


'Scarborough Country' for Oct. 24th
updated 7:06 a.m. PT, Tues., Oct. 25, 2005

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: ... I have told Prime Minister Oduber that I will do this, I will be the voice of Natalee for the next 40 years. And I hope I have that long, because I will do it as long as I can.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9813596 answers that Beth Holloway expects ...

[Bearlyhere]

Joran Van Der Sloot Attacks Prison Guard
LIMA, Peru, Oct. 1 (TOTI) --

Joran van der Sloot continues to have issues while incarcerated at Miguel Castro Castro prison in Peru. The latest incident saw van der Sloot go “berserk” and make an escape attempt only days after he was visited in the prison by the mother of Natalee Holloway.

The 23-year-old Dutchman exploded after he was fed food that he thought might be poisoned, said National Enquirer in an exclusive story. He tried to punch the guard and flee the cell block before he was tossed back into his cell. There, he ripped of his clothes and screamed: “People here want to kill me!”

The incident occurred on September 15, 2010, when Beth Twitty, who is Natalee's mother, visited him.

“After Beth confronted him, asking, 'What did you do with Natalee?' Joran realized how easy it was for anyone to get to him,” an insider said. “So when he got word that someone was trying to kill him with poisoned food, he went crazy.”

The thought of being poisoned isn't that far-fetched. Joran van der Sloot bragged recently that he had received $50,000 from the Dutch media. He was using that money to bribe guards. He was also using the cash to get gourmet meals that didn't come from the kitchen. That changed when he heard he was being targeted by a group of prisoners who were sickened by the charges he killed two young women.

“Those inmates got word to Joran that they were waiting for the day he'd have to eat regular prison food, and they'd make sure the food was poisoned.”

Four days after Beth Twitty visited, a prison guard who refused to take bribes from van der Sloot told the prisoner he would have to eat the same food as the other prisoners.

“Joran thought the guard was in on a plot to kill him, and he went totally berserk,” said an insider. “He yelled insults at the guard, and then threw a punch at him. Joran was hysterical. He was so crazy with fear of being murdered in prison that he started blindly running in a bid to escape. He made it through one door of the cell block and almost made it through a second door before another guard tackled him and held him down. If that guard hadn't acted so quickly, who knows how far Joran would have gone? He could have found a hiding place in jail that could have led to an escape.”

After that, Joran van der Sloot was quickly overpowered by other guards and put in a cell.

“The guards could hear him screaming, 'I want to get out! I haven't killed anybody, but people here want to kill me!' said the insider.

The guards responded by throwing Joran van der Sloot was thrown into solitary confinement.

“All the cockiness has been drained from him now,” said the insider. “Joran now realizes that he can't buy everyone.”

http://www.timesoftheinternet.com/147851.html

It doesn't take much to set him off.  Maybe all it takes is to say NO.

That is just what I was thinking FL.