Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #31 9/27/10 - 10/02/2010

[Scatty]

I was just watching the video, how sad.  I feel so bad for them.

Listening to Desiree is just heart breaking. I don't know how she hasn't had a total mental breakdown. There is absolutely nothing she can do, and must feel helpless.
For all the Terri supporters who rave about what a wonderful step-mother Terri was to Kyron.......her actions and behavior since Kyron disappeared have negated every loving thing she did for Kyron in the past. She has failed Kyron!

No innocent mother/step-mother who truly loved their child, would hide behind an attorney, and not be forthcoming with every scintilla of information to help LE find him. Even if it ends up she had nothing to do with Kyron's disappearance, she has still failed as a mother, not only to Kyron, but to Kiara, and James as well.

JMO

If, as she claims, she brought up Kyron practically from infancy, what kind of alien being is she not to be able to love this child enough to put getting him back as her top priority? A parent (and she bragged he called her "mom") who loves a child would do anything to spare that child pain -- trade places, sacrifice practically anything. She would tell them every embarassing secret in her life because that would pale in comparison to loss of a child. I would have added, she would put her marriage at risk, but that wasn't an issue obviously--she wanted out of the marriage. But my question was rhetorical because she has no such feelings of love. She is only worried about Terri.

[Scatty]

Jane Valez Mitchell with Bruce McCain tonight

McCain says there's no sense of urgency. Said the sheriff's presser
2 weeks ago to announce a task force was being formed, was strained,
with no DA there and no agencies represented there

McCain also said that as thought, sheriff over promised and under delivered;
no agencies, except for one, has agreed to help - Portland Police Bureau,
largest agency in state and it took the sheriff 4 months to get around to
asking for their help

You have to wonder why this McCain guy said there is no sense of urgency. And why it took four months to ask the Portland Police Bureau to help?  He is almost suggesting the sheriff dropped the ball IMO

I definitely got that impression from him too No Rose.

[Scatty]

I've been reading the thread that seahorse started on McCain and it looks like he has a lot of good qualifications. It just seems he has some agenda with things he says, and can't figure out if he has inside knowledge or maybe jealousy, or maybe doesn't like the sheriff in charge of Kyron's case.

  Whoa! Stop reading my mind!   

[Patricia Mocha Latte]

O/T but Grand Jury related.

Jaycee Dugards kidnappers were JUST indicted by the Grand Jury.  So sometimes it can take a while.

http://www.rgj.com/article/20101001/NEWS01/101001031

O/T Thank you for the update.

[Patricia Mocha Latte]

Thanks for the articles, but I can't see how Terri's parents are suppose to contribute to a reward fund, it doesn't seem like they have that kind of money. Has Intel where Kaine works put in a nice sum of money for the fund, the company sure could afford to do so.

Not to mention Kyron isn't really their "family" and the fact that Terri's a suspect.  If she is innocent, her life's been ruined by this investigation.  I wouldn't be inclined to help out, either.

Huge WOW. How could Kyron not really be their "family" when Terri was married into the Horman "Family"? Terri willingly assumed the role of step Mother early on in Kyron's life. Surely Terri's Parents would have a personal and deep understanding of the complexities involved in the family dynamics as they themselves had "adopted" Terri early on in her life.
I'm still trying to wrap my brain around your thoughts here, um. wow.

How do you know that Terri's family hasn't helped? Also if they are backing their daughter and think that the family and police are going after her why would you think that they would help with money. My brain is wrapped around reality, always has been always will be.

Not sure if your post was directed to me but I understand exactly what you are saying.
Just because I posted that I am not really understanding the original posters thoughts it does not mean that there is not a window there open to discussion. Possibly related to attachment issues etc...
I know a girl who was raised by her own Parents that had what we were told was unattached syndrome. Some of the things the girl did to get attention were unbelievable for most. It happens.
Also, we don't know much information about anything to do with Terri or her Parents right now imo.

[Patricia Mocha Latte]

I've been reading the thread that seahorse started on McCain and it looks like he has a lot of good qualifications. It just seems he has some agenda with things he says, and can't figure out if he has inside knowledge or maybe jealousy, or maybe doesn't like the sheriff in charge of Kyron's case.

  Whoa! Stop reading my mind!   

 

[seahorse]

I've been reading the thread that seahorse started on McCain and it looks like he has a lot of good qualifications. It just seems he has some agenda with things he says, and can't figure out if he has inside knowledge or maybe jealousy, or maybe doesn't like the sheriff in charge of Kyron's case.

  Whoa! Stop reading my mind!   

 

Hi NoRose, Scatty and Monkey's,

YES!  He seems to have a small grudge of some sort.  He is really a very good analysis (in my opinion), but...
BM was little petty on JVM, yesterday.

I really love his comments, most of the time, he is refreshing and does not beat around the bush.   

[no rose colored glasses]

I've been reading the thread that seahorse started on McCain and it looks like he has a lot of good qualifications. It just seems he has some agenda with things he says, and can't figure out if he has inside knowledge or maybe jealousy, or maybe doesn't like the sheriff in charge of Kyron's case.

  Whoa! Stop reading my mind!   

I just can't quite figure this guy out.

[no rose colored glasses]

I've been reading the thread that seahorse started on McCain and it looks like he has a lot of good qualifications. It just seems he has some agenda with things he says, and can't figure out if he has inside knowledge or maybe jealousy, or maybe doesn't like the sheriff in charge of Kyron's case.

  Whoa! Stop reading my mind!   

 

Hi NoRose, Scatty and Monkey's,

YES!  He seems to have a small grudge of some sort.  He is really a very good analysis (in my opinion), but...
BM was little petty on JVM, yesterday.

I really love his comments, most of the time, he is refreshing and does not beat around the bush.   

He does sound like he knows things, but he sure seems to have a grudge of some kind.

[seahorse]

I've been reading the thread that seahorse started on McCain and it looks like he has a lot of good qualifications. It just seems he has some agenda with things he says, and can't figure out if he has inside knowledge or maybe jealousy, or maybe doesn't like the sheriff in charge of Kyron's case.

  Whoa! Stop reading my mind!   

 

Hi NoRose, Scatty and Monkey's,

YES!  He seems to have a small grudge of some sort.  He is really a very good analysis (in my opinion), but...
BM was little petty on JVM, yesterday.

I really love his comments, most of the time, he is refreshing and does not beat around the bush.   

He does sound like he knows things, but he sure seems to have a grudge of some kind.

He is darn tootin' sure of himself.  He is a Lawyer and would be privy to information that is not public knowledge, yet.

He was a Police Chief for 24 years?  BM would have connections, I trust his opinions.

He comes across as if someone stole his Lunch. 

[mchenry]

I was just watching the video, how sad.  I feel so bad for them.

Listening to Desiree is just heart breaking. I don't know how she hasn't had a total mental breakdown. There is absolutely nothing she can do, and must feel helpless.
For all the Terri supporters who rave about what a wonderful step-mother Terri was to Kyron.......her actions and behavior since Kyron disappeared have negated every loving thing she did for Kyron in the past. She has failed Kyron!

No innocent mother/step-mother who truly loved their child, would hide behind an attorney, and not be forthcoming with every scintilla of information to help LE find him. Even if it ends up she had nothing to do with Kyron's disappearance, she has still failed as a mother, not only to Kyron, but to Kiara, and James as well.

JMO

See Me ITA! Great post! Thanks!

[MuffyBee]

[melancholygirl]

Melancholygirl that statement kind of upsets me. I am a "step". I do not have natural children and grandchildren and step children and grandchildren. I have 6 kids and 9 grandkids and 2 great grandkids. I can not imagine a grandparent being in the life of their grandchildren for all those years and then saying "they aren't really family". I really hope that TH's parents have done to help find Kyron. If not then they are not any better than TH.
I don't know who did this to Kyron but I hope that when they do find out that they are hung in a public display. Maybe if we went back to a little more barbaric punishment some of this crap would stop.
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I didn't mean to upset anyone, obviously, I did.  I apologize.

I also come from a blended family (mom had two kids from previous marriage, she remarried and had my brother and me).  I can tell you without a doubt, my oldest brother and sister do NOT consider my father their father  and they do not consider their siblings "full family".  I don't think they would be inclined to help out financially or otherwise if my nieces or nephews went missing. (I have no kids)


To me family is family regardless of "step" or "adoptin" or "foster" or "whatever".  You help no matter what.  But I also know not everyone believes this .

 And I agree if TH's parents haven't pitched in then they're just as bad as Terri. 

[melancholygirl]

Sorry - the quotes above didn't transfer over well and I find that I can't actually read what I'm typing when I use the quotes. 

I do want you all to know I truly didn't mean to upset anyone with my statement. 

One reason why I thought up that Kyron isn't "family" is that she didn't do this to "her" kids.  "Her" children are both safe and sound.  Kyrn was the odd man out here and he's missing.  Does that make sense??

[no rose colored glasses]

Sorry - the quotes above didn't transfer over well and I find that I can't actually read what I'm typing when I use the quotes. 

I do want you all to know I truly didn't mean to upset anyone with my statement. 

One reason why I thought up that Kyron isn't "family" is that she didn't do this to "her" kids.  "Her" children are both safe and sound.  Kyrn was the odd man out here and he's missing.  Does that make sense??

I want to apologize to you, you were responding to a post that I made. I guess like always that I didn't word it proper. Was trying to say that if Terri's parents are 100% behind her they probably wouldn't contribute to a reward fund because they would feel the police and family are attacking her needlessly. Have no idea what Terri's parents think or have done to help or not help. And I'm not doing any bad talking about families, whether they are step families or not. Just trying to show another reason why Terri's parents may not want to help.

[Monkey King]

Police release sketch of sex offender near Portland school

http://www.kgw.com/news/Police-warn-...103951459.html

Link isn't working.  Wonder why article was pulled?

[melancholygirl]

I want to apologize to you, you were responding to a post that I made. I guess like always that I didn't word it proper. Was trying to say that if Terri's parents are 100% behind her they probably wouldn't contribute to a reward fund because they would feel the police and family are attacking her needlessly. Have no idea what Terri's parents think or have done to help or not help. And I'm not doing any bad talking about families, whether they are step families or not. Just trying to show another reason why Terri's parents may not want to help.
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No problem! And I was really trying to say what you just said.  I was too blunt and not clear. 

I think I made a poor statement and I understand how it is also and upsetting statement.  Bleh.  It wasn't my intent and I should try to think a little longer before I post something like that.

{{Hugs}} 

[no rose colored glasses]

I want to apologize to you, you were responding to a post that I made. I guess like always that I didn't word it proper. Was trying to say that if Terri's parents are 100% behind her they probably wouldn't contribute to a reward fund because they would feel the police and family are attacking her needlessly. Have no idea what Terri's parents think or have done to help or not help. And I'm not doing any bad talking about families, whether they are step families or not. Just trying to show another reason why Terri's parents may not want to help.

No problem! And I was really trying to say what you just said.  I was too blunt and not clear. 

I think I made a poor statement and I understand how it is also and upsetting statement.  Bleh.  It wasn't my intent and I should try to think a little longer before I post something like that.

{{Hugs}} 
[/quote]I have a problem that whatever I think I write down, and don't explain myself, I know what I'm trying to say, but others may not  HUGS

[MuffyBee]

Police release sketch of sex offender near Portland school

http://www.kgw.com/news/Police-warn-...103951459.html

Link isn't working.  Wonder why article was pulled?

    

[klaasend]

I posted the full link, video and article right below that post.