Obama is Coming to The City of the Angels

[GreatOwl]

Thank you for the report, Louise.   Job well done!  I am not sure Obama will not be the nominee for the democrats.  I really don't know what is going to happen in this election, but I don't see McCain being elected and serving 8 years.  As good as some think Reagan was, he really was not that much in charge in his final years.  There is just enough indication in McCain to lead me to believe that he will not be effective nor have the energy to run for the Presidency at age 76.   Obama would return to campaigning for that term.

I really do fear for our economy under McCain.  We can not continue on the same domestic path for another term of 4 years.  I too would like to hear more specifics from Obama regarding some of his "change" ideas.  However, McCain is making it very clear that there will be no change.  That is scary.

[LouiseVargas]

Dear Great Owl,

I want you to know that the pics I took of the Obama rally are from one year ago when he was not well known. It was the first political rally of my life. But it was one year ago.

[LouiseVargas]

I flip flopped on my opinion about Obama during this past year but I'm settled now. My vote will be for Obama. I am not very happy at the prospect of McCain becoming president at age 76. He will be not be elected.

For me, Obama offers hope, something I lost years ago. I'm sure there are others who feel like I do. We are tired of old Washington. Obama will bring us a new Washington.

[mrs. red]

Yes Obama will bring us a misery index that will rival that of Carter's....
IMO... he talks a great game, but I see nothing of specifics and let's face it... he ripped off not only MA's governor Duvall but Kerry/Edwards... anyone remember  "hope is on the way"?  the audicity of hope is just a play on that phrase...

I am not excited about any of them .... I truly don't believe anything will ever change, unless one is already in the game and rich... very rich.  I don't believe Obama, McCain, Huckabee, or Clinton give two seconds worth of thought to any of us or our problems... it's all about them.... IMO, what Michelle Obama really said was that until she and her husband were put in their rightful place... there was no reason to be proud... she's proud because for the first time we all understand where they belong...

scary stuff all of it.... and don't flame me just because I don't like Obama... tell me exactly what change he is going to make... ?????

[GreatOwl]

Yes Obama will bring us a misery index that will rival that of Carter's....
IMO... he talks a great game, but I see nothing of specifics and let's face it... he ripped off not only MA's governor Duvall but Kerry/Edwards... anyone remember  "hope is on the way"?  the audicity of hope is just a play on that phrase...

I am not excited about any of them .... I truly don't believe anything will ever change, unless one is already in the game and rich... very rich.  I don't believe Obama, McCain, Huckabee, or Clinton give two seconds worth of thought to any of us or our problems... it's all about them.... IMO, what Michelle Obama really said was that until she and her husband were put in their rightful place... there was no reason to be proud... she's proud because for the first time we all understand where they belong...

scary stuff all of it.... and don't flame me just because I don't like Obama... tell me exactly what change he is going to make... ?????

Flame?  Of course not!!   Anyone who has followed politics knows it is about the "power trip."  The common person no longer has the ability to aspire to higher office.  Even the congressional seats that are being newly contested are being bought for hundreds of thousands of dollars.  The most frustrating part of an election is there really is no clear choice.  We all play the game of picking a candidate we hope will be different.  Too often we are disappointed.

I have ruled out McCain because he is not in line with what I would like.  His position is to escalate the war in Iraq and scares me a bit with his rhetoric about Iran.  He wishes to mandate programs in education by to the States, but being familiar with that I know that Federal money will not come with the mandates.  It doesn't give us much choice does it?

[mrs. red]

Well Obama and Clinton will decimate quite a few states ecomonies - there are a lot of states that rely on healthcare and all the side industires that go with it... I feal those two will create rampant unemployment not only with the health care industry, but others as well...

I don't agree with McCain very much either... but I don't think we can just pull out of Iraq  - and leave them to the killing fields we created under Pol Pot ( or is it Pot Pol???)

I completely didn't agree with McCain-Feingold, which was really just a bill that ensured politicans stayed right where they are... my only true hope for our Country is that the voters get smart and vote them all out of office... ans start over.

[LouiseVargas]

mrs.red,

FYI ... Pol Pot.

[GreatOwl]

Well Obama and Clinton will decimate quite a few states ecomonies - there are a lot of states that rely on healthcare and all the side industires that go with it... I feal those two will create rampant unemployment not only with the health care industry, but others as well...

I don't agree with McCain very much either... but I don't think we can just pull out of Iraq  - and leave them to the killing fields we created under Pol Pot ( or is it Pot Pol???)

I completely didn't agree with McCain-Feingold, which was really just a bill that ensured politicans stayed right where they are... my only true hope for our Country is that the voters get smart and vote them all out of office... ans start over.

These are not easy decisions at all.  Something must change within the health care industry and the way it is controlled.  Prescription drugs are getting way out of line.  I reflect the position of a group of people who feel that urge to forego taking medications just to be able to pay or other items of priority.  I am one of those people.  I still have not heard a definitive statement about a solution to this problem from any of the candidates either Republican or Democrat. 

I would never advocate pulling out of Iraq immediately, but I certainly do not condone the sentiment of escalation and prolonged engagement.  Again neither party has put forward a plan which is realistic. 

I hate this feeling of not being able to "vote them all out of office" and even if we could, I dread who or what would be taking their place.  I also hate this feeling that I have to choose between policies which can be summed up as "all or nothing at all."

[Tylergal]

I flip flopped on my opinion about Obama during this past year but I'm settled now. My vote will be for Obama. I am not very happy at the prospect of McCain becoming president at age 76. He will be not be elected.

For me, Obama offers hope, something I lost years ago. I'm sure there are others who feel like I do. We are tired of old Washington. Obama will bring us a new Washington.

Why would McCain be elected at 76 --- that's 5 years away.  He is very near the same age as RWR when he was elected for his first term, just a few months' difference in their ages.  It's 8 months until the election, are we counting on McCain having 5 birthdays before that time?  Geez, Louise.

[Tylergal]

Thank you for the report, Louise.   Job well done!  I am not sure Obama will not be the nominee for the democrats.  I really don't know what is going to happen in this election, but I don't see McCain being elected and serving 8 years.  As good as some think Reagan was, he really was not that much in charge in his final years.  There is just enough indication in McCain to lead me to believe that he will not be effective nor have the energy to run for the Presidency at age 76.   Obama would return to campaigning for that term.

I really do fear for our economy under McCain.  We can not continue on the same domestic path for another term of 4 years.  I too would like to hear more specifics from Obama regarding some of his "change" ideas.  However, McCain is making it very clear that there will be no change.  That is scary.

Yes, you fear the economy under McCain.  He might actually make it work so the slugs of poverty don't have anything to whine about.  Gee.  We are NOT in a recession, even CNBC, the pro-Democrat financial index has said the only reason we are in the economic crisis we are in now is because of the campaigns of two people who thrive on the misery of others, i.e., Hillary and Obama, because without the misery index being so high, their campaigns would be a nothing burger.  Do you really know people who are in such terrible straits that they would elect one of these advocates of healthcare socialism which is nothing but limited healthcare and a stranger, less gentle form of the Hemlock society, of which George Soros is the biggest advocate, to which he has given billions of dollars and his mother was the first in his family (his mother who he dearly worshiped even to the wonderment of some, who thought they might have more than a familial relationship), was the first victim of their "hemlock" advocacy.

[Tylergal]

Hillary and Obama have raised, in one month alone, on the internet more than $90 million dollars.  Now where is the economic crisis?  I don't think their poverty pimps would be able to give that much if we were in a recession. Great Owl, you really need to do some daylight awakeness and see the stupidity of what you preach.

What form of contortion must one practice to keep their head in the dark parts of their anatomy so that they never see the light.

Tylergal - why are you resorting to this?  i realize the political forum can get heated but there's really no justification for the above.

Isn't it possible to have a political debate without getting nasty??

[LouiseVargas]

Tyler,

Tyler, you have crossed the line with your rudeness and insults, not just towards me but now towards Great Owl.

You wrote "Great Owl, you really need to do some daylight awakeness and see the stupidity of what you preach.What form of contortion must one practice to keep their head in the dark parts of their anatomy so that they never see the light."

You just told Great Owl he is stupid (regarding what he wrote) and to stick his head up his ass. Who the hell are you to say that to anyone on this board?

[klaasend]

Maybe we should have a "I'm a Democrat" thread and an "I'm a Republican" thread.  Everyone stay on their own separate threads and discuss their candidates.   

[Tylergal]

Louise, I did not insult you, you did that to yourself, telling how your daughter would not let you see your grandchildren, stating that she had her SO supported you, that you spend a phenomenal amount on vanity, only to tell the public that you had laid more than 100 men.  I did not say that, you did.

Klaas, I was a Democrat for years, but I did not leave the Democrat Party; they left me as they were no longer the party of FDR, Truman and JFK.  They became a replica of something I disliked.  I worked for the GOP but they too have left me for I am not a Republican but a conservative who loves America and who has always seen America as RWR described that "bright shining... on the hill... and as GWHB said, "a thousand points of light.." and now I see a bunch of people in both parties who want instant gratification, who want Uncle Sam to pay for everything including their hair appointments, breast augmentations, litter of children they bring into illegitimacy and all the freedoms they enjoy ...even the illnesses they contracted with their poor behavior, so I am neither a Democrat or a Republican.  I am an American who is embarrassed that these 3 are the best we can do for the presidency of what was once the best place in the world.

When Obama and his minions say that talking about his ears is off limits, talking about his purple lips is off limits, talking about his allegiance to Che is off limits, that his middle name (a Muslim name) is off limits, that wondering what his association with Bill Avery an avowed terrorist who bombed the Pentagon, the capital and bragged about it after not being convicted due to prosecutional errors, when he is not to be questioned on his allegiance to his Muslim brother fighting against Christian that the USA opposes, that we cannot question or speak of his association with Hugo Chavez, when we see him denying his birth family, the rich Irish family who raised him, gave him the private school and Ivy League education, when we see that we are not allowed to attack him on his association with Farakhan, the fact that his guards are party Secret Service mixed with Nation of Islam and his closest protection is the same fat bald guy in a tuxedo that once guarded that "great stallion that only a black man can ride" (Farakhan's words), Malik Khalid, who denied the Holocaust ,and we cannot question him on his liberal voting record, my fear is he is not a liberal but a Communist because now he even has the NYT backing him in saying that we should not question his voting record.  I think Hillary Clinton has a valid point in that Purple Lips can say he did not vote for the war in Iraq, but he was not even in the Senate then.  He was a legislator from Illinois who always voted "present" rather than commit a vote to any issue.  For the brain dead, that should certainly pose a few questions, but then "brain dead," is key here.

[LouiseVargas]

Louise, I did not insult you, you did that to yourself, telling how your daughter would not let you see your grandchildren, stating that she had her SO supported you, that you spend a phenomenal amount on vanity, only to tell the public that you had laid more than 100 men.  I did not say that, you did.

Tyler, none of the above is relevant to the topic of this thread, which is "Obama is Coming to The City of the Angels.

[mrs. red]

Louise, I did not insult you, you did that to yourself, telling how your daughter would not let you see your grandchildren, stating that she had her SO supported you, that you spend a phenomenal amount on vanity, only to tell the public that you had laid more than 100 men.  I did not say that, you did.

Tyler, none of the above is relevant to the topic of this thread, which is "Obama is Coming to The City of the Angels.

LV...the fact of the matter is that it is political.  It's political because of what you perceive Obama to be....

[LouiseVargas]

Anything about me is not relevant to this thread.

[Auntiem]

   Anyone who believes that Obama is magic, he comes from a metaphysical place, God has brought him into the public eye ( well to some people money is their god, and he got plenty of that from Oprah), and is considering suicide, should really sit down and think about her rationale, go hug her grandkids, and consider professional help.

    I say  the above NOT to be nasty, I truly feel for LV, and hope for better days for her.

[Auntiem]

  Tylergirl, thanks for all the info on Obama, it only confirms my fears about him. Actually, the fact that he worships in a place that preaches hatred of America and joy over 9/11 said it all to me.  He is an Islamic extremist, wants to sit down with Amaddeshanad, oi vey, I'm gonna get me some pills!!!!

[LouiseVargas]

Louise, I did not insult you, you did that to yourself, telling how your daughter would not let you see your grandchildren, stating that she had her SO supported you, that you spend a phenomenal amount on vanity, only to tell the public that you had laid more than 100 men.  I did not say that, you did.

Tyler, if I were intimate enough with you to talk about men, whatever I said would be confidential and between us only.

How dare you break the confidence?.

   You cannot be trusted.