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« Reply #620 on: October 19, 2010, 02:05:49 AM »

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« Reply #621 on: October 19, 2010, 02:08:40 AM »

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« Reply #622 on: October 19, 2010, 03:25:46 AM »

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY & STEPHANY FLORES

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« Reply #623 on: October 19, 2010, 07:25:02 AM »

Why does it not surprise me that the new book about Joran and the Rene Gielen timeline are
from the same publisher?

I wonder if Anita gave John van den Heuvel Joran's psychiatric evaluation report.
Are we concerned this is going to be pro-Joran?


Well, I am.   I think it was hastily thrown together after Stephany's murder,
with help from Anita and her crew. 

I agree.
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« Reply #624 on: October 19, 2010, 07:33:56 AM »

JMO  I get a real sick feeling this new book is going to be part two of the blame anyone/everyone but Joran series....

And all of it with Anita van der Sloot right in the middle of it, and profiting from it.

Renee Gielen - blame Natalee and her family for Natalee's disappearance.

John van den Heuvel - blame ALE and the FBI for Stephany's murder.

 




 ::rhino::and with a bit of early childhood separation anxiety thrown into the mix when he had to leave Grandma in the Netherlands.  <sarcasm intended.
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« Reply #625 on: October 19, 2010, 07:39:13 AM »



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« Reply #626 on: October 19, 2010, 07:57:43 AM »

The initials of the American choller don't match up for Ludwick.

http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1



Dos ladron a ser captura cu articulonan horta
Monday, 18 October 2010

TANKI LEENDERT—Diasabra madruga  polis ta bay na un cas na Tanki Leendert pa un kiebro, caminda e ladronnan ainda ta den e cas. Polis a reacciona di biaha y dos unidad ta bay den e direccion ey.  Yegando na e sitio, polis ta mira un pickup Nissan shinishi sin luz ta core bay for di e sitio. Den e auto tabatin dos persona sinta, y den baki tabatin un homber sinta ta tene un frigidair. Polis a sigui nan y nan a hisa velocidad y drenta mondi. Dado momento e pickup a para y e chauffeur y e homber sinta den baki a bula core bay. Polis a sigui busca e chauffeur, pero no a haye. E dos nan cu a wordo deteni ta e muhe C.R. naci na Colombia di 28 aña y e homber P.B. naci na USA di 35 aña, cu ta un conocido choller. Nan a keda cera pendiente investigacion.

Papiamentu translation:

two thief owing to being captura cu articulonan steal

monday, 18 october 2010

tanki leendert—diasabra madruga police is bay at one cas at tanki leendert before one kiebro, caminda the ladronnan still is in the cas. police owing to reacciona by trip y two unidad is bay in the direccion ey. yegando at the sitio, police is see one pickup nissan ash without luz is core bay for by the sitio. in the car had two person sit, y in baki had one man sit is hang on to one frigidair. police owing to follow they y they owing to hoist velocidad y come into forest. dado instant the pickup owing to bird y the chauffeur y he sit in baki owing to jump core bay. police owing to follow busca the chauffeur, but not owing to haye. the two they cu owing to wordo deteni is she c.r. naci at colombia by 28 year y he p.b. naci at using by 35 year, cu is one conocido choller. they owing to remain close pendiente investigacion. come across
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« Reply #627 on: October 19, 2010, 10:04:00 AM »

The initials of the American choller don't match up for Ludwick.

http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1



Dos ladron a ser captura cu articulonan horta
Monday, 18 October 2010

TANKI LEENDERT—Diasabra madruga  polis ta bay na un cas na Tanki Leendert pa un kiebro, caminda e ladronnan ainda ta den e cas. Polis a reacciona di biaha y dos unidad ta bay den e direccion ey.  Yegando na e sitio, polis ta mira un pickup Nissan shinishi sin luz ta core bay for di e sitio. Den e auto tabatin dos persona sinta, y den baki tabatin un homber sinta ta tene un frigidair. Polis a sigui nan y nan a hisa velocidad y drenta mondi. Dado momento e pickup a para y e chauffeur y e homber sinta den baki a bula core bay. Polis a sigui busca e chauffeur, pero no a haye. E dos nan cu a wordo deteni ta e muhe C.R. naci na Colombia di 28 aña y e homber P.B. naci na USA di 35 aña, cu ta un conocido choller. Nan a keda cera pendiente investigacion.

Papiamentu translation:

two thief owing to being captura cu articulonan steal

monday, 18 october 2010

tanki leendert—diasabra madruga police is bay at one cas at tanki leendert before one kiebro, caminda the ladronnan still is in the cas. police owing to reacciona by trip y two unidad is bay in the direccion ey. yegando at the sitio, police is see one pickup nissan ash without luz is core bay for by the sitio. in the car had two person sit, y in baki had one man sit is hang on to one frigidair. police owing to follow they y they owing to hoist velocidad y come into forest. dado instant the pickup owing to bird y the chauffeur y he sit in baki owing to jump core bay. police owing to follow busca the chauffeur, but not owing to haye. the two they cu owing to wordo deteni is she c.r. naci at colombia by 28 year y he p.b. naci at using by 35 year, cu is one conocido choller. they owing to remain close pendiente investigacion. come across

Renfro probably had them throw in the wrong initials just to mess with us  Monkey Devil!
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« Reply #628 on: October 19, 2010, 02:26:14 PM »

Van der Sloot "true story" book
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Birmingham, Al  (WIAT)  Probably no one knows the "true story" of Joran van der Sloot, including van der Sloot, but a pair of Dutch crime reporters are coming out with a book that promises just that about the accused murderer of Stephany Flores and the prime suspect in the disappearance of Mountain Brook teen Natalee Holloway.

Joran's Murder Mysteries promises "The complete story about the true role of Joran van der Sloot in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway and the killing of Stephany Flores."

The book, due out October 19, was co-written by Bert Huisjes and John van den Heuvel, the reporter who recently interviewed van der Sloot in his Castro Castro prison cell in Lima, Peru. That interview which appeared in De Telegraaf as well as on Dutch television contained little about the Natalee Holloway case beyond van der Sloot's admission that he scammed Natalee's family out of $25,000.

"I wanted to get back at Natalee's family - her parents have been making my life tough for five years," the paper quoted him as saying from prison in Peru. "When they offered to pay for the girl's location, I thought: 'Why not'?"

Since the cell block interview by van den Heuvel, van der Sloot got a surprise visit by Natalee Holloway's mother Beth who snuck into his prison as part of another Dutch TV crew.

He's also been accused of trying to by drugs from a prison guard.....allegations that his Peruvian lawyer is demanding prison officials investigate as a set up.

And his still waits a decision on his attempt to get his murder confession thrown out on technical irregularities.  He confessed to killing 21 year old student Stephany Flores after she found material relating to Natalee Holloway on his laptop.  Flores' body was found in van der Sloot's Lima hotel room five years to the day of Natalee's disappearance on a graduation trip to Aruba.  She was last seen with van der Sloot.

http://www.cbs42.com/mostpopular/story/Van-der-Sloot-true-story-book/zMY1TGGVkU2Kc8LMCiU6pA.cspx
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« Reply #629 on: October 19, 2010, 02:31:03 PM »

If Beth's spokesperson/friend claims there is a special report forthcoming ... there is a special report forthcoming.

 

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Beth Holloway working with Dutch reporter on daughter Natalee Holloway's disappearance, spokeswoman confirms (with videos)
Published: Friday, September 17, 2010, 1:15 PM
Updated: Friday, September 17, 2010, 1:56 PM


Beth Holloway is working on a project with a Dutch television crew, but was not arrested in Peru, contrary to widespread reports, her spokeswoman said today.

"She was not arrested or detained and nothing was taken from her," said Sunny Tillman. "Beth is working with Peter de Vries on a special report. Peter can provide further comment on the content of that report." 

Tillman declined to say further what happened in Peru, but did say Holloway remains out of the United States. The TV report will appear in a few weeks.

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« Reply #630 on: October 19, 2010, 02:35:50 PM »

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_79763.php

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Weather book about Joran

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ORANGE CITY / LIMA - The book "Joran Murder Mysteries' by Dutch crime reporter John van den Heuvel appears in bookstores tomorrow. In the book, the disappearance of American Natalee Holloway and the murder of the Peruvian Stephany Flores treated.

In the book are never made public a confidential police report and a psychiatric report on the personality of Joran addressed. Van den Heuvel says that in the first forty days after the disappearance of Natalee in 2005 many appalling errors. In an interview with Radio Netherlands Worldwide tells the reporter that "if you see what a huge mistakes made and there has been much bickering. Especially between the Aruban Justice Minister Rudy Croes on one side and law enforcement on the other hand, it is shocking. When things were good when it picked up, as it should in a disappearance case, I think a lot of disaster had been averted. "
Joran van der Sloot was the prime suspect in both cases. He is currently in remand at the Castro Castro prison in Lima on suspicion of the murder of the Peruvian Flores.


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ORANJESTAD/LIMA — The book ‘Joran’s Murder Mysteries’ from the Dutch crime reporter John van den Heuvel, will be available in the bookstores tomorrow. The book discusses the disappearance of the American Natalee Holloway and the murder of the Peruvian Stephany Flores.

The book elaborates on a never published confidential police report and a psychiatric report on Joran’s personality disorder. Van den Heuvel says a staggering number of mistakes were made during the first forty days after Natalee’s disappearance in 2005. In an interview with the World Broadcast, the reporter states the following. “If one sees what kind of enormous mistakes were made then and how much arguing took place, in particular between the Aruban Minister of Justice Rudy Croes on the one hand, and police and justice on the other hand, it is shocking. If matters had been handled correctly at the time, as they should be with a disappearance case, then I think considerable calamity could have been prevented.”

Joran van der Sloot is main suspect in both cases. He is currently on remand in the Castro Castro prison in Lima on suspicion of murdering the Peruvian Flores.
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« Reply #631 on: October 19, 2010, 02:48:38 PM »

The initials of the American choller don't match up for Ludwick.

http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1



Dos ladron a ser captura cu articulonan horta
Monday, 18 October 2010

TANKI LEENDERT—Diasabra madruga  polis ta bay na un cas na Tanki Leendert pa un kiebro, caminda e ladronnan ainda ta den e cas. Polis a reacciona di biaha y dos unidad ta bay den e direccion ey.  Yegando na e sitio, polis ta mira un pickup Nissan shinishi sin luz ta core bay for di e sitio. Den e auto tabatin dos persona sinta, y den baki tabatin un homber sinta ta tene un frigidair. Polis a sigui nan y nan a hisa velocidad y drenta mondi. Dado momento e pickup a para y e chauffeur y e homber sinta den baki a bula core bay. Polis a sigui busca e chauffeur, pero no a haye. E dos nan cu a wordo deteni ta e muhe C.R. naci na Colombia di 28 aña y e homber P.B. naci na USA di 35 aña, cu ta un conocido choller. Nan a keda cera pendiente investigacion.

Papiamentu translation:

two thief owing to being captura cu articulonan steal

monday, 18 october 2010

tanki leendert—diasabra madruga police is bay at one cas at tanki leendert before one kiebro, caminda the ladronnan still is in the cas. police owing to reacciona by trip y two unidad is bay in the direccion ey. yegando at the sitio, police is see one pickup nissan ash without luz is core bay for by the sitio. in the car had two person sit, y in baki had one man sit is hang on to one frigidair. police owing to follow they y they owing to hoist velocidad y come into forest. dado instant the pickup owing to bird y the chauffeur y he sit in baki owing to jump core bay. police owing to follow busca the chauffeur, but not owing to haye. the two they cu owing to wordo deteni is she c.r. naci at colombia by 28 year y he p.b. naci at using by 35 year, cu is one conocido choller. they owing to remain close pendiente investigacion. come across

Renfro probably had them throw in the wrong initials just to mess with us  Monkey Devil!

Wouldn't surprise me at all.   
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« Reply #632 on: October 19, 2010, 02:50:52 PM »

"The book elaborates on a never published confidential police report and a psychiatric report on Joran’s personality disorder."

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« Reply #633 on: October 19, 2010, 05:30:34 PM »

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« Reply #634 on: October 19, 2010, 05:31:24 PM »

IMO the book is 99.9% Bull S***
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« Reply #635 on: October 19, 2010, 05:43:14 PM »

Another dead body on the beach in Aruba.   

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=4954&offId=0

1 hora happen | fecha: 19/10/2010 | horario: 15:55

owing to attain one curpa without life in lama at baby beach is deal by one by edad we will follow informa come across

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"We won't give up on you, Natalee.  You didn't give up on us, and we will continue with the investigation until we have all of the answers to your disappearance.  God be with you my Natalee!" Dave Holloway ARUBA
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« Reply #636 on: October 19, 2010, 07:13:29 PM »

Another dead body on the beach in Aruba.   

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=4954&offId=0

1 hora happen | fecha: 19/10/2010 | horario: 15:55

owing to attain one curpa without life in lama at baby beach is deal by one by edad we will follow informa come across



 

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« Reply #637 on: October 19, 2010, 07:27:57 PM »

what is the death ratio in Aruba. Seems kinda high?
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« Reply #638 on: October 19, 2010, 08:37:50 PM »

what is the death ratio in Aruba. Seems kinda high?

Don't know, but whatever the reports say it is...it's higher.

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"We won't give up on you, Natalee.  You didn't give up on us, and we will continue with the investigation until we have all of the answers to your disappearance.  God be with you my Natalee!" Dave Holloway ARUBA
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« Reply #639 on: October 19, 2010, 08:43:09 PM »

what is the death ratio in Aruba. Seems kinda high?

Don't know, but whatever the reports say it is...it's higher.

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