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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #849 10/7/10 -
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Please light some candles for the Birthday Girl!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5700.0
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Quote from: Bearlyhere on October 21, 2010, 05:34:56 AM
Quote from: texasmom on October 21, 2010, 01:34:12 AM
Happy Birthday Natalee!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, SWEET GIRL!
Through your life, others remain safe, your Mother makes sure of that. You have not been forgotten. Your legacy lives on, and will live on, forever.
Blessings on your family and those who continue the work your Mom started, through the gift of you. Be with your Mom, especially today, as she experiences the raw pain of your absence on your special day. Hug your family and those you love and who love you, they need the power of your embrace. Rest in the arms of Jesus, Natalee, your hero and savior.
I just knew you'd have the words that I couldn't find, thank you Sis!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #849 10/7/10 -
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Quote from: Bearlyhere on October 21, 2010, 06:38:59 AM
Please light some candles for the Birthday Girl!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5700.0
Yes, please do! Let's at least get to
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: texasmom on October 21, 2010, 07:46:39 AM
Quote from: Bearlyhere on October 21, 2010, 05:34:56 AM
Quote from: texasmom on October 21, 2010, 01:34:12 AM
Happy Birthday Natalee!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, SWEET GIRL!
Through your life, others remain safe, your Mother makes sure of that. You have not been forgotten. Your legacy lives on, and will live on, forever.
Blessings on your family and those who continue the work your Mom started, through the gift of you. Be with your Mom, especially today, as she experiences the raw pain of your absence on your special day. Hug your family and those you love and who love you, they need the power of your embrace. Rest in the arms of Jesus, Natalee, your hero and savior.
I just knew you'd have the words that I couldn't find, thank you Sis!
You are welcome, they typed themselves.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #849 10/7/10 -
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Quote from: texasmom on October 21, 2010, 07:59:36 AM
Quote from: Bearlyhere on October 21, 2010, 06:38:59 AM
Please light some candles for the Birthday Girl!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5700.0
Yes, please do! Let's at least get to
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I posted it to the Musers and the Ban Clan.
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Just honoring Natalee's birthday. This must be a bittersweet day for her family - remembering her, feeling her absence. {{{ Beth, Matt and Dave }}}.
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Natalee's Birthday - October 21, 2005
Corruption in Paradise - Dave Holloway
Page 168:
I had planned to end my trip on Friday, October 21, Natalee’s birthday. However, so much activity was going on in Aruba – with the Equusearch team and the equipment that Art Wood had brought in, as well as the tapes arriving – that I did not feel that I could just turn my back and leave. Unfortunately, the sophisticated camera that Art had obtained was not as effective as what Equusearch had with them. But, Equusearch’s sonar search capabilities were much better than anything that the Aruban authorities had.
Natalee’s birthday was a difficult day. I tried not to focus on it and kept busy with my efforts to search for her. As with times back in Mississippi, I was not always with Natalee on her birthday due to sharing time with her with Beth. I did my best to imagine that this was just not my turn to spend her birthday with her.
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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Natalee's 19th Birthday
Scarborough Country - October 21, 2005
Joe: Do you have any birthday memories? Anything, like her 18th birthday, what was she doing on her last birthday?
Beth: Probably her 16th birthday cause that is when you do the car. I think that one was probably the most special, and it probably is to all parents.
Joe: What do you remember the most about the 16th birthday?
Beth: I don’t think I can do it. (Starts to cry)
Transcript Credit: ?
http://michellesaysso.blogspot.com/2005/10/gang-rape-overlooked-by-aruba.html
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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Commemorating Natalee's birthday that she is not here to celebrate. Aruban Joran van der Sloot is responsible for that and Aruba refused to collect evidence against him and to provide justice and closure for Natalee's family.
And now Joran has killed yet again. Had Aruba supplied even minimal investigative techniques, Joran would have been in jail and Stephany Flores would be alive. So once again, Aruba is in the glare of public scrutiny and this time they can't blame anybody other than Joran!
Joran van der Sloot is and always will be the face of Aruba, their poster child and favored son. They were more than willing to sacrifice justice rather than admit that the locals were drugging and raping the tourist girls but that's what Joran said was happening. Twenty times before.
More than ever the world knows what Aruba did and did not do to bring justice for Natalee and her family. Joran is the gift that just keeps on giving to Aruba. And no amount of ad and PR money will offset the damage done to Aruba by the Sloots. I hope it was worth it to them.
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Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
http://tinyurl.com/2nus7c
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I don't believe Dr. Phil's program edited the Deepak tape as to content. And the Kalpoes have admitted they were with Joran the night he made Natalee disappear.
I wonder if Joran had killed again before they filed this lawsuit, if they would have even filed it.
Hanging out with a multiple murderer can't be thought to enhance ones reputation so what are they talking about with that. As i recall the entirety of that program, the focal point was on human trafficking and not the Kalpoes.
Just as Aruba grossly misjudged Beth Holloway and the support she would receive for her daughter, I think they have over-estimated the merits of this lawsuit and can now only hope for a favorable ruling rather than admit it was so ill advised to file in the first place.
You can't destroy a reputation that isn't there in the first place. The Kalpoes were very proud of being one of the "Pimps" before and the photos exist to prove that. They admitted to all manner of things they did in the company of Joran van der Sloot. So now blaming Dr. Phil for being associated with this monster just doesn't seem likely to stick to me. They have only themselves to thank for that association.
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Happy Birthday Natalee.Wishing and Praying for your Justice and Return home. With Love Always, NM
Hey Monks.
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Glenda wrote: "aruba's job was not to babysit Beth's daughter. Beth sent her daughter to swim with the sharks, she is responsible for what ever happened to Natalee." = there is no homicide in aruba, only SUICIDE. Don't go to aruba if you value your life.
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Ditto
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #849 10/7/10 -
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Quote from: wreck on October 21, 2010, 12:39:16 AM
Quote from: Magnolia on October 21, 2010, 12:27:25 AM
Quote from: wreck on October 20, 2010, 11:46:49 PM
Quote from: klaasend on October 20, 2010, 11:32:07 PM
https://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/OnlineServices/CivilImages/index.asp
10/18/2010 Order
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent
10/18/2010 Stipulation (OF THE PARTIES DE-DESIGNATING CERTAIN DOCS., ETC. )
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent
10/18/2010 Ex-Parte Application (to file memo of p&a in excess of 20 pages but not to exceed 30 pages )
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent
Not sure what it means exactly but ruled in favor of the Defendants
Again, I'm no lawyer -- but, "ex parte" means a motion is asked for without input from the other party. It APPEARS to me that Dr. Phil's atty's are indeed asking for a "Summary Judgement"!!!
I found this about "Summary Judgement" at wiki.
A different and very common tactic is where a defendant moves for summary judgment in its favor on a plaintiff's cause of action. The key difference is that in this latter situation, the defendant need only attack one essential element of the plaintiff's claim. A finding that the plaintiff
cannot prove one essential element of its claim necessarily renders all other elements immaterial and results in an immediate grant of summary judgment
to the defendant. Therefore, these motions tend to be precisely targeted to the
weakest points of the plaintiff's case.
It is also possible for a plaintiff to move for summary judgment in its favor on a defendant's affirmative defense, but those motions are very rare.
Yes, back when the Defendents replied to Plaintiff's motion to deem the case "complex" -- the Defendents told the judge that the "depositions" of the Kalpoes were making them considering asking for a "Summary Judgement".
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Happy Birthday Natalee!!!
Never forgotten.
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Happy Birthday Natalee~
Prayers for Natalee's family on this day
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Quote from: texasmom on October 21, 2010, 07:59:36 AM
Quote from: Bearlyhere on October 21, 2010, 06:38:59 AM
Please light some candles for the Birthday Girl!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5700.0
Yes, please do! Let's at least get to
24
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There's 24 now.
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Quote from: Anna on October 21, 2010, 11:36:51 AM
I don't believe Dr. Phil's program edited the Deepak tape as to content. And the Kalpoes have admitted they were with Joran the night he made Natalee disappear.
I wonder if Joran had killed again before they filed this lawsuit, if they would have even filed it.
Hanging out with a multiple murderer can't be thought to enhance ones reputation so what are they talking about with that. As i recall the entirety of that program, the focal point was on human trafficking and not the Kalpoes.
Just as Aruba grossly misjudged Beth Holloway and the support she would receive for her daughter, I think they have over-estimated the merits of this lawsuit and can now only hope for a favorable ruling rather than admit it was so ill advised to file in the first place.
You can't destroy a reputation that isn't there in the first place. The Kalpoes were very proud of being one of the "Pimps" before and the photos exist to prove that. They admitted to all manner of things they did in the company of Joran van der Sloot. So now blaming Dr. Phil for being associated with this monster just doesn't seem likely to stick to me. They have only themselves to thank for that association.
Just think how Natalee's life would have been changed, if they refused to drive him in the pimp mobile or if they refused to take her 'for a ride' afterward, and would have let her go home with her friends instead. They knew the kind of guy Joran was, Natalee didn't.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #849 10/7/10 -
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Quote from: snoopy on October 21, 2010, 01:48:50 PM
Quote from: texasmom on October 21, 2010, 07:59:36 AM
Quote from: Bearlyhere on October 21, 2010, 06:38:59 AM
Please light some candles for the Birthday Girl!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5700.0
Yes, please do! Let's at least get to
24
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There's 24 now.
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Quote from: Anna on October 21, 2010, 11:15:06 AM
Commemorating Natalee's birthday that she is not here to celebrate. Aruban Joran van der Sloot is responsible for that and Aruba refused to collect evidence against him and to provide justice and closure for Natalee's family.
And now Joran has killed yet again. Had Aruba supplied even minimal investigative techniques, Joran would have been in jail and Stephany Flores would be alive. So once again, Aruba is in the glare of public scrutiny and this time they can't blame anybody other than Joran!
Joran van der Sloot is and always will be the face of Aruba, their poster child and favored son. They were more than willing to sacrifice justice rather than admit that the locals were drugging and raping the tourist girls but that's what Joran said was happening. Twenty times before.
More than ever the world knows what Aruba did and did not do to bring justice for Natalee and her family. Joran is the gift that just keeps on giving to Aruba. And no amount of ad and PR money will offset the damage done to Aruba by the Sloots. I hope it was worth it to them.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #849 10/7/10 -
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Quote from: Bearlyhere on October 21, 2010, 02:03:50 PM
Quote from: snoopy on October 21, 2010, 01:48:50 PM
Quote from: texasmom on October 21, 2010, 07:59:36 AM
Quote from: Bearlyhere on October 21, 2010, 06:38:59 AM
Please light some candles for the Birthday Girl!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5700.0
Yes, please do! Let's at least get to
24
!
There's 24 now.
Thanks Monkeys!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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