Natalee Case Discussion #849 10/7/10 - 10/24/10

[Kermit]

Capslockwizarch
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #720 2/3 -
« Reply #557 on: February 03, 2008, 09:41:31 PM »
Dave is now the Key to prove this lier wrong.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2567.msg338792;topicseen#msg338792

[Kermit]

Kermit
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 -
« Reply #901 on: December 17, 2008, 07:17:24 PM »

JOHN SILVETTI TELLS CAPS THAT THE TRAP/CAGE IS A POSTOFFICE AND THE CAGE WAS EMPTY.

MARCH 3, 2008 – John Silvetti meets with CapsLockWizard

From an email sent from CapsLockWizard:

“Yes, We did have the meeting today. It was a long meeting and we are all set to start the process of a permit to drain. Witness will gave statement to Lawyer (Helen), Lawyer will motion to drain the pond to OM. If Motion denied, will go to media and expose more dirt. John knows everything now and he will stay behind to help and protect. John state the cage was empty. it was full of these broken plastic bags that shows on the cam like skull, but he said to me it is the water doing tricks when picture was taken. He thinks also it is a postoffice. When I told him the story about the cage, he also understand now some things that he could not have question about. Like why is the Panter allways parked over the spot while there is notting anymore in he cage. The meeting end at 5:00 pm and was very good. About the Pipes. They will be checked. Also John thinks that the signs are there but need to drain the pond. Also Withness is 99% it was some one that came from the pond area that he saw, because it looks like a dutch man and was cover in mud from the chest down.”

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STEPH WATTS BLOG RADIO SHOW WITH TIM MILLER
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/profile.aspx?userurl=watts-up-with-this
Two things I find very interesting here.

1 - Tim is stating that Silvetti knew there were REMAINS in that cage

2 - Tim is now trying to back peddle from what he said the last time on Steph's show - that those remains were male.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7126.880

[Kermit]

CAPSLOCKWIZARD POSTED:
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #789
Reply #115 on: January 02, 2009, 02:17:45 AM

I work alone with a group that can not be put at risk

What I hate the most of this site now is the way the information is twisted, but it is the same method that was use by those that made Natalee desapear, they twist the info.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4340.msg608323#msg608323

[Tamikosmom]

van der Sloot...sitting and waiting for appeal judge's ruling

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/van-der-Sloot-sitting-and-waiting-for-appeal/-cTzPLyhHEWbZM8b_twgAw.cspx?rss=1659

Birmingham, Al  (WIAT)  Joran van der Sloot is still waiting to find out if his murder confession can be used against him.

The Dutchman confessed to killing 21 year old Stephany Flores after the student found material relating to Natalee Holloway on his laptop.

Flores' body was found in van der Sloot's Lima, Peru hotel room five years to the day after Natalee's disappearance on a graduation trip to Aruba.

Van der Sloot has never been charged in the disappearance of the Mountain Brook teenager but is considered the prime suspect in the case.

Two members of a three judge appeal panel voted to throw out the Flores' murder confession citing procedural grounds but under Peruvian law it takes three judges.  A fourth judge has been reviewing the case for weeks.

Meanwhile, Dutch crime reporter John van den Heuvel had a book signing in Amsterdam Friday for his newly released "Joran Murder Mysteries" which claims to tie together all the loose ends in the Holloway and Flores cases.


Reminder:  They don't need a confession.  They have a body and DNA.

Exactly!!!

When it is considered that the Peruvian investigation has been afforded a body as well as other physical evidence including a video ... it difficult to comprehend why Joran's attorney is attempting to have the confession thrown out.  It was my understanding that in the Peruvian system a confession implies the accused receives a much lighter sentence than being found guilty following a trial.

Janet

[Kermit]

Tkubi7

I think Kub should meet Cat, (aka: Tiger, Joebear, Siamese, etc)

That is true. I live in Buffalo just a few blocks from the Peace Bridge into Canada. I constantly get picked up by Roger's, which is a Canadian cell service. The charges are reversed but it's a pain. The closer I am to the lake or the river, the more apt I am to get those charges from Canada. My phone company explained that the cell towers in Fort Erie Canada are actually closest to me and that's why it picks them up while roaming. I suppose if anyone triangulated my phone, it would look like I was in Canada, but that really only reinforces the theory of where Casey was. The closest cell tower would pick her up.
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johan555
hay welkom here !!!
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #775 11/16/08 thru
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[Tamikosmom]

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STEPH WATTS BLOG RADIO SHOW WITH TIM MILLER
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/profile.aspx?userurl=watts-up-with-this
Two things I find very interesting here.

1 - Tim is stating that Silvetti knew there were REMAINS in that cage

2 - Tim is now trying to back peddle from what he said the last time on Steph's show - that those remains were male.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7126.880

STEPH WATTS AND TIM MILLER INVERVIEW

The Trap

February 14, 2010

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/02/15/watts-up-with-this

Tim Miller: 

Aruba authorities dove on it and … six weeks later they said that the DNA came back as a male.

So, did we find Natalee?  I don’t know. It certainly looked like her clothes in that fish trap and again we know the night that Natalee disappeared the fisherman’s huts was broken into the knife was stolen; the big fish trap was stolen. 

It’s ironic we found one and I’ve actually got the pictures of that... you know that certainly appears to be a body in that fish trap.

Transcript: Kermit


February 28, 2010

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/03/01/watts-up-with-this

Tim Miller:

We don't know really know we can't say positively sure it was human remains we've got some pictures that made us wonder.

John Silvetti doesn't feel 100% that it was.  That is why John wants to go back to search we just got mixed messages on that and perhaps we over-reacted on that what we seen at the time looked suspcious.

I can't say positive one way or another what it was.

Transcript: Kermit

[Kermit]

van der Sloot...sitting and waiting for appeal judge's ruling

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/van-der-Sloot-sitting-and-waiting-for-appeal/-cTzPLyhHEWbZM8b_twgAw.cspx?rss=1659

Birmingham, Al  (WIAT)  Joran van der Sloot is still waiting to find out if his murder confession can be used against him.

The Dutchman confessed to killing 21 year old Stephany Flores after the student found material relating to Natalee Holloway on his laptop.

Flores' body was found in van der Sloot's Lima, Peru hotel room five years to the day after Natalee's disappearance on a graduation trip to Aruba.

Van der Sloot has never been charged in the disappearance of the Mountain Brook teenager but is considered the prime suspect in the case.

Two members of a three judge appeal panel voted to throw out the Flores' murder confession citing procedural grounds but under Peruvian law it takes three judges.  A fourth judge has been reviewing the case for weeks.

Meanwhile, Dutch crime reporter John van den Heuvel had a book signing in Amsterdam Friday for his newly released "Joran Murder Mysteries" which claims to tie together all the loose ends in the Holloway and Flores cases.


Reminder:  They don't need a confession.  They have a body and DNA.

Exactly!!!

When it is considered that the Peruvian investigation has been afforded a body as well as other physical evidence including a video ... it difficult to comprehend why Joran's attorney is attempting to have the confession thrown out.  It was my understanding that in the Peruvian system a confession implies the accused receives a much lighter sentence than being found guilty following a trial.

Janet

Janet,

Greetings,

You need to watch Greta more often and her attorney panel. Attorney's will try anything to get their client off. Remember Scott Peterson's attorney,  Mark Geragos and then the smoking gun girl friend with the tapes testified.

This is nothing more then posturing and Joran is NOT going to be set free.

BUT for the sake of looking at it from another angle & let's suppose he is found innocent of beating that poor child to death, and he walks out of Castro Castro, okay...................then THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WILL HAVE HIS ASS AND TOAST IT IF NO OTHER COUNTRY CAN DO THE RIGHT THING! Double-dogged guaranteed!!!!!!

And

we'll bring those lepercan Kalpoe brothers over here to take the stand.

[Keepthefaith]

Lepercans....

[Kermit]

COLD AND CALCULATING AS HE JUST MURDERED A LITTLE GIRL - JUST LIKE NATALEE

NEVER FORGET


05.33.55 Joran and Stephany enter the room
08.13.34 Joran exits to get coffee
08.24.44 Joran returns with coffee
08.35.50 Joran exits second time with (empty?) coffee cups


And TIM MILLER CAN DANCE WITH THE TRUTH ALL HE WANTS

IT TAKES BALLS TO BE A MAN AND STAND UP FOR THE TRUTH TIM!!!!!

[Kermit]

Lepercans....

[Keepthefaith]

COLD AND CALCULATING AS HE JUST MURDERED A LITTLE GIRL - JUST LIKE NATALEE

NEVER FORGET


05.33.55 Joran and Stephany enter the room
08.13.34 Joran exits to get coffee
08.24.44 Joran returns with coffee
08.35.50 Joran exits second time with (empty?) coffee cups


And TIM MILLER CAN DANCE WITH THE TRUTH ALL HE WANTS

IT TAKES BALLS TO BE A MAN AND STAND UP FOR THE TRUTH TIM!!!!!

IT TAKES BALLS TO BE A MAN AND STAND UP FOR THE TRUTH TIM!!!!!


For me,there is a right side of the tracks,and a wrong side of the tracks.Nothing in between!Natalee Holloway DESERVES better!

[Tamikosmom]

Kermit ... somehow ... with all the rights afforded the accused ... I believe that Joran van der Sloot would beat the extortion charges in the States.  I hope Peru locks him up for a long long time.

Think about it.  Joran pulled the same stunt with Greta producers.  He extorted $10,000 in exchange for the truth regards to selling Natalee to a sex trader but ... backtracked on the deal with Greta producers following the show.  Why did Greta not charge him with extortion?

Janet

 

[Magnolia]

CAPSLOCKWIZARD POSTED:
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #789
Reply #115 on: January 02, 2009, 02:17:45 AM

I work alone with a group that can not be put at risk

What I hate the most of this site now is the way the information is twisted, but it is the same method that was use by those that made Natalee desapear, they twist the info.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4340.msg608323#msg608323

Okay!  Which is it?  Alone or with a group?

[MuffyBee]

CAPSLOCKWIZARD POSTED:
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #789
Reply #115 on: January 02, 2009, 02:17:45 AM

I work alone with a group that can not be put at risk

What I hate the most of this site now is the way the information is twisted, but it is the same method that was use by those that made Natalee desapear, they twist the info.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4340.msg608323#msg608323

Okay!  Which is it?  Alone or with a group?

[Magnolia]

Kermit ... somehow ... with all the rights afforded the accused ... I believe that Joran van der Sloot would beat the extortion charges in the States.  I hope Peru locks him up for a long long time.

Think about it.  Joran pulled the same stunt with Greta producers.  He extorted $10,000 in exchange for the truth regards to selling Natalee to a sex trader but ... backtracked on the deal with Greta producers following the show.  Why did Greta not charge him with extortion?

Janet

 

Because Fox got what they paid for!  They paid for the license of the phone call between Joran and Paulus.
They didn't require that it be honest or truthful.  They broadcast the phone call recording.

I always thought it was $25,000 they paid. 

That was another of Steph Watts brilliant moves.

[Tamikosmom]

Kermit ... somehow ... with all the rights afforded the accused ... I believe that Joran van der Sloot would beat the extortion charges in the States.  I hope Peru locks him up for a long long time.

Think about it.  Joran pulled the same stunt with Greta producers.  He extorted $10,000 in exchange for the truth regards to selling Natalee to a sex trader but ... backtracked on the deal with Greta producers following the show.  Why did Greta not charge him with extortion?

Janet

 

Another Extortion?  No Consequences?

Fallout From Joran van der Sloot's 'On the Record' Interview
Wednesday, November 26, 2008

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: Coming up: You heard Joran van der Sloot in an interview done in Thailand say he sold Natalee, but eight hours later, before we had even gotten out of Thailand, an e-mail flashed across my BlackBerry. Joran said he lied to us. Did Joran lie to us? And if so, when? When he said he sold Natalee or eight hours later, when he said it was not true? Joran's lawyer, Joe Tacopina, joins us next.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

VAN SUSTEREN: Joran van der Sloot says he told his father Paulus that he sold Natalee Holloway to a man in Aruba. Joran says he recorded conversations between his father an him that refer to this sale and could possibly corroborate what he told us on tape.

<snipped>

VAN SUSTEREN: Joran van der Sloot's lawyer, Joe Tacopina, joins us live. Joe, am I right, you still do represent Joran?

JOE TACOPINA, ATTORNEY FOR JORAN VAN DER SLOOT: I represent him, Greta, for the purpose of the Aruba investigation, which for all intents and purposes is over.

Quite frankly, when you asked me to come on last week or a few weeks ago, I hadn't seen this tape. Had I seen this first, I probably would have declined your invitation, Greta, because I just - we could do this - and look, obviously you paid him some money to either give him a tape recording or have him give you tapes or to submit to an interview.

VAN SUSTEREN: Stop there. Let me explain something.

TACOPINA: Please.

VAN SUSTEREN: Just so you get it right. He contacted us. He said he had a tape.

TACOPINA: Yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: I said we couldn't buy it, but we could license it. That's what the media does. You license photos, you license recordings, you license tape.

He gave us the tape. We've had it sent to someone to have it checked out if there were problems with it. I went to Thailand to find out what the story was on the tape to fill in the blanks to corroborate it.

TACOPINA: OK. So whatever I have - I mean, an email from one of your producers, Steph Watts, you know, to Joran, talking about the Western Union transaction. Greta, look --

VAN SUSTEREN: That is how the money is transferred. There's no secret. There's no secret.

TACOPINA: You paid him for a tape that he made and wound up getting an hour interview with him. And so be it, Greta. Great TV, great ratings- -

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you have a problem with that?

TACOPINA: Yes, I do have a problem with it, Greta, because if you offered Joran $10,000 tomorrow and ask him to tell you a fifth story, he would do it.

Clearly, he's a sick kid. Clearly, I have nothing to say in defense of his actions, Greta. OK?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457715,00.html

[texasmom]

CAPSLOCKWIZARD POSTED:
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #789
Reply #115 on: January 02, 2009, 02:17:45 AM

I work alone with a group that can not be put at risk

What I hate the most of this site now is the way the information is twisted, but it is the same method that was use by those that made Natalee desapear, they twist the info.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4340.msg608323#msg608323

Okay!  Which is it?  Alone or with a group?

 

[nonesuche]

Where is Nonesuche?  Is she banned? (I was going to use that cute pig picture, but I knew she'd just come in here and put a tiara on it. lol)

Check for her in the football thread tomorrow. She's been busy but usually stops by there on game day 

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8375.msg1251158#new

  put a tiara on it....

  Klaas' team is #1 

I am fresh out of tiara's........I heard they may be passe' due to the economic downturn?

[nonesuche]

Tkubi7

I think Kub should meet Cat, (aka: Tiger, Joebear, Siamese, etc)

That is true. I live in Buffalo just a few blocks from the Peace Bridge into Canada. I constantly get picked up by Roger's, which is a Canadian cell service. The charges are reversed but it's a pain. The closer I am to the lake or the river, the more apt I am to get those charges from Canada. My phone company explained that the cell towers in Fort Erie Canada are actually closest to me and that's why it picks them up while roaming. I suppose if anyone triangulated my phone, it would look like I was in Canada, but that really only reinforces the theory of where Casey was. The closest cell tower would pick her up.
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johan555
hay welkom here !!!
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #775 11/16/08 thru
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Is that CAPS ????????????? in the photo??????? heebie jeebies, a face to cause a nightmare

[Tamikosmom]

It is my hope that justice will prevail for Stephany Flores and ... Joran will serve a long sentence in a Peruvian lockup ... a long sentence that implies no more Natalee's and Stephany's are at risk.

Janet

++++++

November 19, 2008:

BETH HOLLOWAY: And Greta, I was just wanting to say that, you know, like I said, it's been a long time, but it's never too late for justice. And I'd be good with a "Midnight Express" prison anywhere for Joran.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454527,00.html

IT WAS ALL A HOAX

Holloway attorney details van der Sloot sting
updated 6/11/2010 12:58:39 PM ET

When Kelly returned to the States, he contacted the FBI and began to set up the elaborate sting with the FBI and Aruban law-enforcement authorities.

He regained van der Sloot’s attention by sending him $100. Then, with a promise that he would bring $25,000, another meeting was set up for May 10 in Aruba.

This time, Kelly was hooked up with recording devices and rehearsed in how he needed to handle the transaction. He gave van der Sloot $10,000 in cash, establishing extortion, then had $15,000 of Twitty's personal money wired to van der Sloot’s bank account in the Netherlands, establishing wire fraud.

Van der Sloot and Kelly signed a contract, and van der Sloot took the lawyer on a drive to show where Holloway’s remains were. He pointed out a house and said his father had helped dispose of the body in the foundation. It was later determined that the house was not built when Holloway disappeared on her high school’s senior trip and that the information was false.

Van der Sloot himself told Kelly in an e-mail he apparently sent from Peru a week after the meeting that he had lied.

“He indicated it was all a hoax, which is sort of his M.O. with everybody — get the money, then say it’s a hoax and avoid criminal prosecution,” Kelly said.   

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/37635627