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« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2010, 10:31:19 AM »

Everyone, absolutely everyone, has psychic ability!  Some have less than others.  It can be made stronger through meditation and practice.  Our sixth sense is a God-given ability to help protect us.  It doesn't matter what you call it!  It may be called psi, sixth sense, intuition, gut instinct, any number of things.  It's real, and we all have it, whether we like it or not.  Some people have a lot of it and get amazing information.  Some have a little and just know things like who is on the phone. 

There are some people who are very close-minded about it because of religious nonsense or whatever reason.  I say religious nonsense, because why would it be against religion when God gave it to us.  Since those who are close-minded do not read this thread, they won't find insult here.  However, I have felt insult when people slam me for being psychic.  I have tried to tell people about an image I have received, and they interrupt me and tell me they absolutely won't entertain the idea.  This happened to me recently (not on this forum).  Then they say everyone has their opinion.  Well, they didn't let me have mine, did they? 

I do not like frauds either.  They cause more problems than they help and make it hard for the rest of us. 

Most psychics are not mind readers.  It is extremely rare to be able to read the thoughts of others.  Knowing future events is also rare, because the future is constantly changing based on the decisions we make.  However, people's lives have been saved by a premonition that they should not do a certain thing.  We all know instances of that happening.  Dreams that come true are not just dreams.  They are premonitions, and premonitions are a part of psychic phenomena.

Psychic is not a curse word.  It's just a word to describe psi ability or the sixth sense or intuition.

Someone said if there were real psychics, there would be very few missing children.  I don't know why it is so hard to get things about the location of the missing.  If they are dead, it is a little easier, but if they are children, it is much harder.  Many of them don't have the words/images to let you know a specific location.  I tried with Madeleine and Caylee and Haleigh.  I got images of places with Madeleine, but they were physical locations that could be many places.  I wasn't given the name on a map or the longitude and latitude.  (By the way, of all the stand out cases, Madeleine is the only one I believe to still be alive.)  I got an image of Caylee sleeping.  She had lines across her in a shadow pattern, like the moon shining through window panes.  I didn't realize until later that was the grid they laid out when they found her remains.

The things I get are in brief flashes.  They are images, words, feelings, and they aren't always clear.  In fact, much of it is hazy.  I'm not as good as someone like John Holland or Gordon Smith.  I don't have it that strongly.  I sometimes think I want to develop it more, but the stronger it is, the more disturbing it can be.

And, by the way, people with psi ability make mistakes.  It is a human condition.  It is sometimes very difficult to tell what is coming through you or what is coming from you.  If it's coming from you, it is not psi. 


I don't really know about Kyron.  I am not sure.  I have felt he is dead, but I'm not getting the snapshots I do when people are dead.  I get images more like still photos when I get an image of a dead person.  However, Caylee moved around some in my images, and she was dead, so that isn't always how it is.  The only moving image I have had of Kyron was the one about the ring, and that may have been in the past.  Interestingly, someone at WS had a dream about a woman's ring in water.  What she wrote sounded like a ring being flushed down the toilet.

Also, when I had the image of the blue bin, it was closed, and it was sitting on grass.  I didn't get water, so I don't know if it was before it was buried or before it was put in water.  Of course, the bin might not even be right, but I got it so strongly, it felt like it had relevance.


Deenie, be true to yourself!  If you have dreams that come true, then you have some psychic ability.  My mother had dreams that came true.  I imagine I get the tendency from her. 

There are plenty of threads that have poems, photos, and memories of Kyron.  What we need here are dreams, visions, thoughts, and feelings.   
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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2010, 01:50:24 PM »

CC ITA  an angelic monkey

My mom had physic abilities also. The things I could tell you ..... I, myself had many dreams come true and because of them, saved 2 peoples lives. I've also had many dreams about Kyron with names in them. Names I never heard of prior.

Don't let other people criticize your gift. I'm glad to see you standing up for what you believe in. Great post my friend!    an angelic monkey
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« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2010, 02:47:39 PM »

I was not going to post in this forum due to the fact that the discussion is regarding "psychic" abilities. I do not intend to insult or take away from the discussion in the thread. These are just my thoughts and opinions.

Personally my beliefs are that labeling ones self as "psychic" or allowing others to do that for or to you is in a sense enabling ego driven agenda(s) and empowering ones self over others.
I believe that everyone has this sense that is often overlooked. I've explained it (even recently enough) very similarly to the way that Claycat did in that it is no different then (hypothetically speaking) when say you are walking out to get the mail but something stops you. You sense that you should not go just then so you don't. A few minutes later a car speeds by and wipes out your entire mailbox. Had you gone you would have been hit by that car.

I believe in our Creator. I believe that our Creator has created all things both big and small. We are an extention of our Creator.
That being said, to make claim that I or anyone else were a "psychic" would be empowering myself or others to a Label/Status that is both unreasonable and illogical.

Some folks say, "Well here are all these people that have sense abilities yeah right well when they win the lottery then I might believe it".
HA HA HA. If it was meant for anyone to win the lottery and it is in our Creators plan then of course it would happen.
There is no greater power than our Creator.

Then now we have folks saying things like that if someone has abilities then they know to do this or that or contact this person or that person or whatever if they have had a vision. (Some say a dream.) Really? How does that work? Is there some sort of guide book that some folks are privy to that others are not?
No really, is there? If there is who wrote it?

And the term "dream" doesn't really fit for some. Maybe it does for others but the dream is a vision is a dream. It doesn't really fit. Does it happen when you are awake or asleep or both? Can you dream in color? Do all of your other senses smell, touch, taste, hear and sight work in tandem with a dream? What do you feel exactly when you are having a vision? How can you know when it is a vision vs say an insignificant day dream?

What do you know? Can you read minds? Can you predict? Are you friend or foe? Do you have many friends? Why? Why not?

Aside from all the questions I just have to say that I am a believer in the sense. You are not a freak. As a matter of fact and not to be mean but you aren't "special" neither. If you believe that you know something that might help to find a missing person or help any circumstance then just do what you can. I am also a believer in justice and BTW I just heard on HLN that the monster Phillip Garrido was in court again for something or other.
Justice for Jaycee and her family might be late in coming, but, coming it is.







 
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« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2010, 03:27:01 PM »

REMINDER - THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT KYRON, NOT DREAMS OR VISIONS IN GENERAL.  IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT DREAMS OR VISION IN GENERAL YOU NEED TO START A THREAD IN THE MONKEY LOUNGE.

PLEASE KEEP THIS ABOUT KYRON
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« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2010, 03:48:01 PM »

I apologize Klaas and will do!
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« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2010, 04:52:46 PM »

Thanks Klaas for that reminder!  an angelic monkey

So, a bit after I started having the Kyron dreams, I learned a good lesson from my mom. When I wake up from the dream, I write things down so that I don't forget them. I wake up a few times during the night and then look at my notes in the morning.

One of the dreams I had about Kyron, a specific name came through the dream, and I actually woke up saying the name out loud. I wrote it down, and thought, "who the heck is that"? I never even heard of the name before. The next morning I googled the name and it turned out to be a specialty dr. located in Portland, Or, and of course, with red hair.

One of the other dreams I had, which was 2 nights ago, was of the pic below, but it was live. Kyron kept waving at me saying, "I'm here, I'm here! Can't you see me?"




I'm not sure what they mean. It's only 2 of many that I've had. I've had a lot of dreams in my life that came true. At least 2 of them helped me save 2 peoples lives, both of them potential drowning victims. I don't know why this happens. It just happens.

With Kyron, these dreams are so emotional, sometimes I just wake up crying. 
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« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2010, 05:07:57 PM »

Thanks Klaas for that reminder!  an angelic monkey

So, a bit after I started having the Kyron dreams, I learned a good lesson from my mom. When I wake up from the dream, I write things down so that I don't forget them. I wake up a few times during the night and then look at my notes in the morning.

One of the dreams I had about Kyron, a specific name came through the dream, and I actually woke up saying the name out loud. I wrote it down, and thought, "who the heck is that"? I never even heard of the name before. The next morning I googled the name and it turned out to be a specialty dr. located in Portland, Or, and of course, with red hair.

One of the other dreams I had, which was 2 nights ago, was of the pic below, but it was live. Kyron kept waving at me saying, "I'm here, I'm here! Can't you see me?"




I'm not sure what they mean. It's only 2 of many that I've had. I've had a lot of dreams in my life that came true. At least 2 of them helped me save 2 peoples lives, both of them potential drowning victims. I don't know why this happens. It just happens.

With Kyron, these dreams are so emotional, sometimes I just wake up crying. 


I wanted to clarify that, they are a  pediatric specialist in Portland, Or.
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« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2010, 10:05:04 PM »

Wow, Sassifrass!  Maybe that's his doctor! 
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« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2010, 10:47:44 PM »

Wow, Sassifrass!  Maybe that's his doctor! 

First I want to say that this dream was at the very beginning of when I heard about Kyron being missing.

As far as the thought that they may have been the dr., I don't know CC. I'll tell you this, I did some searching and investigating and there are some fishy things going on. I gave up the research because I was hitting a brick wall. By that I mean, I kept being diverted by other people surrounding them. This person is retired and holds a VERY private practice now.

I guess I need to go back to researching them. Some of it is still 'in progress'.

Btw, I sent you an email. 
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« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2010, 02:49:18 AM »

I hope and pray that I may dream a little dream of Kyron tonight. 
Goodnight, Monkeys.  Goodnight Kyron.
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« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2010, 11:41:44 PM »

I had a dream of a similar guy, but the one in my dreams was taller, skinnier, dirty... like a homeless vagrant.

The one in my dream is at the bottom of a hill, with a similar winding road... in my dream he finds a black bag by the side of the road and it's something very scary to him.




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« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2010, 11:58:05 PM »

Ooopsie!

I meant to post my last post in the dreams thread.

My "pologies."

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« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2010, 12:12:54 AM »

I have had four dreams about Kyron. Two of which I already wrote at the beginning of the main Kyron thread, and the last one I wrote by mistake tonight in the current thread.

The third dream is this: there is a room, like in an office or classroom... and there is a bulletin board where people pin notes or papers into.

A lady pins a paper and it falls off. Under the bulletin board there is some type of table or cabinet, so the paper falls behind it.

The lady moves the table/cabinet and behind it there are many papers that have fallen off in the past. Then another lady in the room picks up a paper and says, "this is Kyron's."

The wall behind the table is sorta rotten or has a hole, so that there is a tiny space where other papers have been piling up. Again, someone looks under it and says, "this is Kyron's."

That's it.

I don't know if it has any meaning, other than a recreation of something I may have read or seen the day before. I hope it gives someone an idea in regards to Kyron.

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« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2010, 08:36:14 AM »

Itaryl, it sounds like a strategy room where the detectives would deal with Kyron's case.  Maybe it's about lost or hidden information.   
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« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2010, 09:47:56 AM »

I had a dream of a similar guy, but the one in my dreams was taller, skinnier, dirty... like a homeless vagrant.

The one in my dream is at the bottom of a hill, with a similar winding road... in my dream he finds a black bag by the side of the road and it's something very scary to him.




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Thanks, Muff.

My brain ain't as sharp as it used to be, and no way of telling where my post will go when I have two threads open at once.

Will be more careful next time.

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« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2010, 09:52:03 AM »

Itaryl, it sounds like a strategy room where the detectives would deal with Kyron's case.  Maybe it's about lost or hidden information.   

Thanks, Claycat.

Yah, was thinking it's an office because there's only adults (mostly women) in it.

Anyway, I'm sure it's nothing.

Just writing it down cause it's about Kyron, and I've been onto stuff before... though I'm not claiming to be psychic and, if I were one, I would be a REALLY bad one.

Hehe!

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« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2010, 10:12:25 PM »

I have had several dreams about Kyron as well.

I do believe because I have concentrated on him so much that he is incorporated into my dreams.. 

My one dream of him, being of Fish Food .. again as CC or Koko said it could be perception that Kyron was bait .. or along that line. Or Water. Some of my dreams can be very vivid.
The last dream I had of Kyron,
 Was of a small closet. Like a cabinet built in type closet. Not of depth,  It was very dark in color. Not like a filing cabinet type of " storage with drawers" but a small closet like space with a door.

Then came a cut, on the inside of a arm, that required attention, yet was not urgent.
Maybe its my interpretation of Kyron being held in a dark place and he is/was hurt - or taken by the arm.. 

Just never know what can come of dreams, or even interpretation of them.

All I know is that I have had too many dreams come true within less than an hour of being awake - in my personal life. That has boggled my mind of how it could be that I dreamed it and it did happen right afterward. Maybe we can make our own cage and then be able to profess and chat about such things.

I found this and thought it was so sweet for Kyron, must have been made by one of his friends/classmates

 
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« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2010, 09:04:35 AM »

I have had several dreams about Kyron as well.

I do believe because I have concentrated on him so much that he is incorporated into my dreams.. 

My one dream of him, being of Fish Food .. again as CC or Koko said it could be perception that Kyron was bait .. or along that line. Or Water. Some of my dreams can be very vivid.
The last dream I had of Kyron,
 Was of a small closet. Like a cabinet built in type closet. Not of depth,  It was very dark in color. Not like a filing cabinet type of " storage with drawers" but a small closet like space with a door.

Then came a cut, on the inside of a arm, that required attention, yet was not urgent.
Maybe its my interpretation of Kyron being held in a dark place and he is/was hurt - or taken by the arm.. 

Just never know what can come of dreams, or even interpretation of them.

All I know is that I have had too many dreams come true within less than an hour of being awake - in my personal life. That has boggled my mind of how it could be that I dreamed it and it did happen right afterward. Maybe we can make our own cage and then be able to profess and chat about such things.

I found this and thought it was so sweet for Kyron, must have been made by one of his friends/classmates

 

That is such a sweet poster, not fancy or anything, just done with a lot of heart.

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The searches have been done in the water, so the fish food dream may have to do with he being in water.

I had a dream at the beginning, after finding out about Kyron, of he going into water, the water was clean but looked greenish and was "bubbling"...

I know that when you feed fish in small ponds they move towards the food and the water look like is boiling, because all the fish scramble at once.

Hmmm...

In the dream I heard a woman laughing and taunting Kyron to go in, she was talking with someone else.

Weird.
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« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2010, 06:08:38 PM »

Ok, disclaimer I am not psychic but at the beginning of this case I had a dream of a few things- please be forewarned this is not a happy dream.




There is a blue car. It's a car, not an SUV or a truck. There are 2 adults. A woman with red hair and someone else with dark hair (I want to say it is a woman but I'm not positive). There is a small flat area that overlooks some rugged terrain. The person with dark hair threw him off this cliff. I see him in his CSI t-shirt, light jean shorts, white socks, and Sketchers (black and green) at the bottom of a small canyon with a stream.

I know it came out later he was wearing dark pants and Sketchers that were black and orange...kinda freaked me out I had the right type of shoes. I also read they were searching ravines and I didn't know what a ravine was. I looked it up and it said a small canyon. I certainly hope I am completely wrong.
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« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2010, 07:45:33 PM »

Hi Noodles!  Welcome!

That was a disturbing dream!  It's a shame you didn't get a better look at the dark-haired person.
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