Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #33 10/07/10 - 10/17/10

[Monkey King]

hi Neighbor
thanks for all the info you provide
could i get a favor, the next time you are at the school early enough
on a friday to see GK do his work, and if you have time could you time him
doing both lawns, and even if he just does one, dont stalk just note the
 time he starts and stops, from unloads and loads, soon he wont be doing
grass cutting on lawns or feilds, just something about his timeline that
bugs me, just from a rough estimate, on the foot scale on bing maps,
and all the slope and tree from the play area, dont know just seems it would
take longer than, 7;45 to 9;00= 1hr and 15min, then add load and unload,
set cones, then drive to from on mower, maybe he has been doing it long
enough, hes got it down to a science

Hi, CW!  I wonder about this, too!  I know it takes around 2 1/2 to 3 hours for me to mower a 3/4 acre yard with a ride-on lawn mower.  Of course, a field is more of a straight shot, and the GK probably had a more powerful mower, but that timing doesn't seem right to me either.  Plus, I'm sure he had more than 3/4 acre to mow.

And don't forget the ground was "muddy and mucky" according to reports by the searcher teams as it had been raining prior to June 4th.

[Puzzler]

hi Neighbor
thanks for all the info you provide
could i get a favor, the next time you are at the school early enough
on a friday to see GK do his work, and if you have time could you time him
doing both lawns, and even if he just does one, dont stalk just note the
 time he starts and stops, from unloads and loads, soon he wont be doing
grass cutting on lawns or feilds, just something about his timeline that
bugs me, just from a rough estimate, on the foot scale on bing maps,
and all the slope and tree from the play area, dont know just seems it would
take longer than, 7;45 to 9;00= 1hr and 15min, then add load and unload,
set cones, then drive to from on mower, maybe he has been doing it long
enough, hes got it down to a science

Hi, CW!  I wonder about this, too!  I know it takes around 2 1/2 to 3 hours for me to mower a 3/4 acre yard with a ride-on lawn mower.  Of course, a field is more of a straight shot, and the GK probably had a more powerful mower, but that timing doesn't seem right to me either.  Plus, I'm sure he had more than 3/4 acre to mow.

And don't forget the ground was "muddy and mucky" according to reports by the searcher teams as it had been raining prior to June 4th.

If the grass was wet, you would have to mow slower or else the cuttings would clog up the mower and could shut it down.  Any experienced mower would know you have to mow wet grass slower than dry grass. 

[cw618]

If the grass was wet, you would have to mow slower or else the cuttings would clog up the mower and could shut it down.  Any experienced mower would know you have to mow wet grass slower than dry grass. 

the grass here was dry, so yes could be a little longer, the mower looked heavy duty
though
mower
http://www.machinefinder.com/images/machines/40/999040/702203_huge.jpg

[Deenie]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/multnomah_county_sheriff_dan_s_1.html

Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton is returning to the board of commissioners Thursday to ask for $209,656 to cover the first three months of overtime stemming from the Kyron Horman investigation, and for temporary funding of an investigative technician.
 
Staton had sought a slightly higher sum of money in July, but then reversed course, deciding to put off his then-$242,609 request. In July, he told county commissioners he’d try to absorb the costs within his department’s budget, but would return to the board in the fall if the costs were to exceed the budget.
 
Staton is scheduled to address the county board at 9:30 a.m. Thursday.
 
The overtime funding covers a lead investigator, two detectives and the salary of a one-year investigative technician assigned to the criminal investigation, county records show.
 
The 7-year-old went missing from Skyline School early June 4 after his stepmom, Terri Moulton Horman, took him to school for a morning science fair. He never made it to his class, but wasn’t reported missing until he failed to arrive home by school bus that afternoon.

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That's a lot of cabbage for 4 individuals. No Wonder they are relying on Volunteer SAR Groups for the Sauvie Island and area's surrounding.

[Desdemona]

<<respectfully snipped by Desi>> 

BTW,  I find it amazingly convenient for KH's alibi (or lack thereof) that there is no video.  Because, if there were a video, the value of that security tape would be this:

to verify what time Kaine REALLY left work.
JMO.

 

I feel pretty certain LE had Kaine's timeline nailed down to the minute beyond a shadow of a doubt during the first few hours of the investigation.  I have not seen it suggested in the media or from LE that there is any question whatsoever about Kaine's whereabouts and movements on June 4.  And furthermore, Kaine has no need for an "alibi."  He is not a suspect in the disappearance of his son. 

I believe it was Terri's timeline that presented the "verification" challenges and led to problems for her in this case.  JMO

Also:  Has it been confirmed that there are no security cameras in the Intel parking lot?  That is not my understanding, though I could be wrong.

[Desdemona]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/multnomah_county_sheriff_dan_s_1.html

Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton is returning to the board of commissioners Thursday to ask for $209,656 to cover the first three months of overtime stemming from the Kyron Horman investigation, and for temporary funding of an investigative technician.
 
Staton had sought a slightly higher sum of money in July, but then reversed course, deciding to put off his then-$242,609 request. In July, he told county commissioners he’d try to absorb the costs within his department’s budget, but would return to the board in the fall if the costs were to exceed the budget.
 
Staton is scheduled to address the county board at 9:30 a.m. Thursday.
 
The overtime funding covers a lead investigator, two detectives and the salary of a one-year investigative technician assigned to the criminal investigation, county records show.
 
The 7-year-old went missing from Skyline School early June 4 after his stepmom, Terri Moulton Horman, took him to school for a morning science fair. He never made it to his class, but wasn’t reported missing until he failed to arrive home by school bus that afternoon.

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That's a lot of cabbage for 4 individuals. No Wonder they are relying on Volunteer SAR Groups for the Sauvie Island and area's surrounding.

Deenie, thanks for your recent posts from the website of one of those volunteer groups.  Amazing what they go through, and all because they care so deeply.  What a dedicated and admirable group of human beings.   I pray Kyron can be found before too much more time passes, and before too much more $money$ is needlessly spent.

Why "needlessly?"  Because there is someone who has kept their silence up to now, who could put a stop to the madness right this very minute if they chose to.  I pray this person will think very hard about all the ramifications, and will decide sooner rather than later to step up and do the right thing.  Kyron did not deserve to be a little boy lost, never to be found.  He's been "somewhere out there" for far too long.  He needs to come home.  Now.

For Kyron: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRjb8sMjYu8&feature=related

(P.S.  Deenie, I left a hug for you somewhere around here... hope you got it. ... ) 

[hellokitty]

 

I imagine that Intel has hundreds of security camera.

[Grey]

I imagine that Intel has hundreds of security camera.

I agree. Inside and outside all of their buildings. They would be very concerned about security because of the nature of their business. Having dummy security camera housing units overlooking the parking lots does not make sense. The cameras are there and taping.

Intel has no reason to tell the media or anyone anything about their security measures, and LE has no reason to tell the media or anyone anything about Intel's security measures. I have no doubt that both Intel and LE have viewed the parking lot videos. If Terri's Mustang left the parking lot while Kaine was at work, we will not hear about it unless it is part of a court case.

[hellokitty]

 

I never knew that there were security cameras in so many places.  I have become aware of them now and they are EVERYWHERE.

I think if people ask around, they will be surprised how many security cameras are in places that they never even dreamed of.

My friend owns a gas station, and he has cameras that tape to disk.  I asked him how long he keeps the disks.  He said, "Forever."

And this is in a low low crime area, as to be almost non existent.

[Grey]

I never knew that there were security cameras in so many places.  I have become aware of them now and they are EVERYWHERE.

I think if people ask around, they will be surprised how many security cameras are in places that they never even dreamed of.

My friend owns a gas station, and he has cameras that tape to disk.  I asked him how long he keeps the disks.  He said, "Forever."

And this is in a low low crime area, as to be almost non existent.

Years ago security cameras were expensive and the quality was poor. Today they cost less and the quality is much better. Every business needs them as part of their security, and more and more private homes are using security cameras in some form.

You know the computer-whiz guys at Intel have their software and cameras fine-tuned to the max, though Las Vegas casinos might have better systems.

*rolls dice*
 

[strawberry thunder]

Hi there Monkey's!

Been a busy two days for me. Anything new with the case? I haven't had a chance to back read yet.

Hoping tomorrow bring good news for Kyron and the little fellow is brought home! 

[Lazydog1]

It is supposed to be nice this next weekend. Hopefully they will continue searching. I keep hoping to hear he has been found. I continue to pray he will be found alive and unharmed.
Until I hear otherwise I can still pray and hope.

Maybe TMH and ZB can be myspace friends.

[Lazydog1]

It is supposed to be nice this next weekend. Hopefully they will continue searching. I keep hoping to hear he has been found. I continue to pray he will be found alive and unharmed.
Until I hear otherwise I can still pray and hope.

Maybe TMH and EB can be myspace friends.

Geez Got that one way wrong. Sorry. Slinking away now.

[Noodles]

I imagine that Intel has hundreds of security camera.

I would think that even w/o the security cameras that a lot of people would have seen Kaine all throughout the day.

[neighbor]

From the previous thread

Let's follow the names from the floor plan.

    * Rooms 100 .. 112 are in the basement.  That includes the library, cafeteria, boiler and locker room.  See
      http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t166/ubrmel/KYRON/Maps%20KYRON/BasementFPofSkylineSchool.jpg
    * The other rooms are on the 1st level


The school is on a hill.  The hill slopes down from East to West.

    * The East entrance is on the first level.
    * The main entrance brings you to a split level.  Up goes to 1st level; down goes to the basement.
    * The basement classrooms 106,109,110 are ground level.
    * The ball field is outside below that.

The locker room is 103.  Lockers are on the left along the wall near the door.

[fatcatlurker]

Jonser/TJ has posted recently on GLP for DS he said she is supposed to get her stuff back today.  He also posted some stuff about Rudy who he referred to as Anselmo?  He said he was subpoened to the divorce hearing per DS?  Not sure how that could be if Bunch and the other attorney don't even know who he is...ha ha ha! 

Hoping this one goes crazy soon!

BTW we have a missing person case going on here in Maryland, wife went missing 5 yrs ago, husband arrested in 2009 finally goes to trial in 2010.  Will be interesting to see how it comes out.   Her body was never found.  Here's a link;http://wjz.com/local/tracey.tetso.years.2.1050508.html

[Deenie]

AWE Desi ((thank u))


This is for Kyron from our beloved Desi

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/XRjb8sMjYu8?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/XRjb8sMjYu8?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;rel=0</a>

[Deenie]

For all, Another little guy is missing from the Portland Oregon his name is Lok Marcellay

His name is pronounced LOke

11 years old, attends Astor Elementary North Portland, Last seen yesterday, dropped off by his school bus in front of his home.

Cage started for him http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8800.new#new

[klaasend]

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[Grey]

*cleans cage and puts out bananas and wine for the server techs*