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« Reply #180 on: October 28, 2010, 08:33:49 AM »

-and Good morning Monkeys!

T i c k  t o c k !   T i c k  t o c k !

Good morning can, monks and guests

 

Good morning to you Muffy.  Was hoping you would oblige, ty. 
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« Reply #181 on: October 28, 2010, 09:16:55 AM »

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Beth-Holloway-on-Dutch-TV-show-Sunday/l7V9rTC_10mhINQ1nvjMwQ.cspx



Beth Holloway on Dutch TV show Sunday

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Beth Holloway will talk about Joran van der Sloot's attempt to extort money from the family in exchange for information about the death of her daughter Natalee.

It's part of the season kickoff of a crime tv show on Dutch network SBS6 Sunday, October 31.

Beth Holloway and Dutch crime reporter Peter R. DeVries made headlines on three continents when they somehow got Holloway into van der Sloot's prison cell in Peru. She apparently accompanied de Vries TV crew on an interview but was escorted out when prison officials realized who she was.

During that incident van der Sloot refused to answer questions from Beth Holloway referring all questions to his Peruvian lawyer.

According to de Vries website, Sunday's broadcast will include "For the first time Beth Holloway tells the shocking story about the extortion by Joran van der Sloot."

Mountain Brook teenager Natalee Holloway disappeared on a 2005 graduation trip to Aruba. She was last seen in the company of van der Sloot. Although he's considered the prime suspect in the case, he has never been charged by Aruban authorities.

DeVries has followed the case for years and has previously televised hidden camera interviews where van der Sloot has told a variety of stories about Natalee's fate...all of which van der Sloot later denied.

Van der Sloot is currently awaiting trial in Peru for the murder of a 21 year old student. Stephany Flores body was found in his Lima hotel room five years to the day of Natalee's disappearance on Aruba. Van der Sloot confessed to killing her after she found material about Natalee on his laptop. He is appealing to have that confession thrown out claiming coercion and procedural irregularities. That appeal is pending.

Van der Sloot has also been indicted here in Birmingham on federal extortion charges stemming from an alleged attempt to get money from the Holloway family. That charge is stuck in line behind the Peruvian murder charge.
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« Reply #182 on: October 28, 2010, 09:52:32 AM »

I'm really surprised that there is zero discussion about the Kalpoe suit these days at GM or RU.  I guess they aren't happy that the Kalpoes aren't going to be able to extort money from us (us being Americans and an American program).
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« Reply #183 on: October 28, 2010, 10:01:48 AM »

I'm really surprised that there is zero discussion about the Kalpoe suit these days at GM or RU.  I guess they aren't happy that the Kalpoes aren't going to be able to extort money from us (us being Americans and an American program).

Maybe they don't know yet. Monkey Devil!

I suspect that GM is doing all of their discussing at BFN.
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« Reply #184 on: October 28, 2010, 11:26:20 AM »

I'm really surprised that there is zero discussion about the Kalpoe suit these days at GM or RU.  I guess they aren't happy that the Kalpoes aren't going to be able to extort money from us (us being Americans and an American program).

Maybe they don't know yet. Monkey Devil!

I suspect that GM is doing all of their discussing at BFN.

BFN are discussing with the aid of SM documents. 
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« Reply #185 on: October 28, 2010, 12:04:48 PM »

Hey, goon boy finally made a top ten list! It`s not a good one, though.


To follow is Dr. Glass’s list of “Top 10 Toxic Men of 2010”:



1. Charlie Sheen – The Self-Destructive Gloom-and-Doom Victim

2. Mel Gibson – The Angry Bullying Control Freak

3. Joran Van Der Sloot – The Socio-Psychopath

4. Bernie Madoff – The Emotional Refrigerator

5. John Edwards – The Wishy-Washy Spineless Wimp

6. Jesse James – The Sneaky Passive-Aggressive Silent-but-Deadly Erupting Volcano

7. Tiger Woods – The Seductive Manipulative Cheating Liar

8. Chris Brown – The Jealous Competitor

9. Michael Lohan – The Instigating Backstabbing Meddler

10. Kanye West – The Selfish Me-Myself-and-I Narcissist
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« Reply #186 on: October 28, 2010, 12:45:07 PM »

sueing the Kalpoes would be a waste of time and money.
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« Reply #187 on: October 28, 2010, 12:47:29 PM »

Hey, goon boy finally made a top ten list! It`s not a good one, though.


To follow is Dr. Glass’s list of “Top 10 Toxic Men of 2010”:



1. Charlie Sheen – The Self-Destructive Gloom-and-Doom Victim

2. Mel Gibson – The Angry Bullying Control Freak

3. Joran Van Der Sloot – The Socio-Psychopath

4. Bernie Madoff – The Emotional Refrigerator

5. John Edwards – The Wishy-Washy Spineless Wimp

6. Jesse James – The Sneaky Passive-Aggressive Silent-but-Deadly Erupting Volcano

7. Tiger Woods – The Seductive Manipulative Cheating Liar

8. Chris Brown – The Jealous Competitor

9. Michael Lohan – The Instigating Backstabbing Meddler

10. Kanye West – The Selfish Me-Myself-and-I Narcissist
I'm extremely confident that you've made sure that Diario,and BonDia have this list Carpe!They must know what Arubas finest has become..
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« Reply #188 on: October 28, 2010, 12:48:53 PM »

sueing the Kalpoes would be a waste of time and money.
It would be interesting to see if anyone would represent them at that point! 
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« Reply #189 on: October 28, 2010, 12:51:43 PM »

I'm really surprised that there is zero discussion about the Kalpoe suit these days at GM or RU.  I guess they aren't happy that the Kalpoes aren't going to be able to extort money from us (us being Americans and an American program).

Maybe they don't know yet. Monkey Devil!

I suspect that GM is doing all of their discussing at BFN.

BFN are discussing with the aid of SM documents. 

Thanks to our generous, anonymous monkey & Klaas.   
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« Reply #190 on: October 28, 2010, 01:20:10 PM »

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« Reply #191 on: October 28, 2010, 01:48:53 PM »

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Looks like there's a whole band of monkeys running round nekkid.     Including me! 
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« Reply #192 on: October 28, 2010, 01:54:37 PM »

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Looks like there's a whole band of monkeys running round nekkid.     Including me! 
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« Reply #193 on: October 28, 2010, 02:28:22 PM »

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Looks like there's a whole band of monkeys running round nekkid.     Including me! 


Alrighty then!      Back to our normal programming after adjusting thing-a-ma-bobs.   
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« Reply #194 on: October 28, 2010, 02:30:07 PM »

Peter R. de Vries sold his new two reports [ the meeting Beth and Joran in jail and the extortion case] to CBS. They will broadcast it this weekend. On Sunday.
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« Reply #195 on: October 28, 2010, 02:35:48 PM »

Correction: They = SBS and CBS.
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« Reply #196 on: October 28, 2010, 02:41:02 PM »

The Dutch program ' De wereld draait door" showed some shots from Beth Holloway waiting for Joran to enter the room of the managing director [the jailboss]
Hidden cameras plugged into an electric point.
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« Reply #197 on: October 28, 2010, 02:45:58 PM »

I'm really surprised that there is zero discussion about the Kalpoe suit these days at GM or RU.  I guess they aren't happy that the Kalpoes aren't going to be able to extort money from us (us being Americans and an American program).

Maybe they don't know yet. Monkey Devil!

I suspect that GM is doing all of their discussing at BFN.

BFN are discussing with the aid of SM documents. 

Well, I hope that the spelling meets with Debbie's approval.
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« Reply #198 on: October 28, 2010, 03:06:44 PM »





The NFI Investigation

As a challenge to the above ... is it possible that the Kalpoes' attorneys would summit the NFI findings to the court as evidence to support the lawsuit's claim that Deepak's words in the Phil McGraw recording were deceptive manipulated or ...

Is it possible that Arlene Ellis Schipper was furthering the Aruban cover up agenda?  In other words ... she lied to the American people on the Rita Cosby Show in regards to the findings of the NFI investigation of the tape.

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'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for December 1
updated 7:37 a.m. PT, Fri., Dec. 2, 2005


ARLENE ELLIS SCHIPPER, ARUBAN STRATEGIC COMM. TASK FORCE: Well, it's not what I think, it is what the Dutch forensic institute thinks and what we have also requested the FBI to confirm, which confirmation we haven't received yet.

However, the NFI had four investigators separately look at these tapes, and they say that the Dr. Phil show tapes were edited for content in the following order. Just before the word “she,” there was a cut. And just after the word “did,” there was a cut. And then they compared it to the CD-ROM that Mr. Skeeters sent the officials, and you have seen that piece, and it says, “No, she didn't.” And he shakes his head while doing—while saying that.

COSBY:  Now, you mentioned, Arlene, that the FBI—we know that they also have the tape.  When do you think you're going to hear back from them?  And do you think that they're going to make their results public?

SCHIPPER:  I hope so, actually.  And you know what?  Because officially, of course, the court-appointed forensic institute is the NFI, the Netherlands.  But for comfort, the authorities here sent it also for your comfort, actually, your American comfort—the authorities also sent it to the FBI with—through an MLAT (ph) procedure, which is a mutual—just mutual legal assistance treaty between our countries.

And they also requested, on recommendation of the NFI, to investigate the hard disk of Mr. Skeeters.  And based on that, he volunteered his hard disk.  So we are waiting already for two weeks on those results.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10295536/
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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


« Reply #199 on: October 28, 2010, 03:10:37 PM »

Thanks, Janet. I remember the car tape contents, but the translation didn't seem to be explicit that Natalee was the girl referred to in that segment.

I don't remember a 15 minute interview between Greta and Deepak. It's been a while, I know, but I was just wondering if any of you remember it?

Another monkey sent me this link by email today.     

Maybe this is what they're referring to?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161786,00.html

Heading Home
Thursday, July 07, 2005
By Greta Van Susteren


Late Wednesday night I wrote the blog below because I could not sleep... but minutes ago I was awakened with a call to return to the United States immediately. Obviously the terrorism in London is the reason. I am not sure where I am headed, what city I can get to in the United States, what flights are available, etc., but we are leaving Aruba (that is all I know at this moment.)

Here is the text that I thought would lead the blog today:

Our day yesterday in Aruba (search) started as every day does: We all have breakfast together and decide where to go first, the days are beginning to blur here for us since we spend hours and hours in the car driving around trying to get information. After a full day of driving and trying to get info, we then get ready for our show. Our day often — not always — ends at 11 p.m. when we turn the lights off on our set. (And yes, this is a long schedule but nothing like the schedule of the families of missing children!)


Yesterday we started with a trip to the Van der Sloot (search) home. We yelled from their gate that we were there and asked if we could talk to them. Two young boys came out, looked at us and said, "Oh no!" They left and no one would come out. The two family dogs came out wagging their tails and seemingly happy to see us. They did not bark at us but at one point both took off running at a lizard that crossed the driveway. (Yes, as long as we were there, we fed the monkey in the cage in the neighbor's yard with the food taken from the hotel buffet for that very purpose. The monkey is getting friendlier to us.)

After leaving the Van der Sloot house, we headed to the Kalpoe home a short distance away. The Kalpoe brothers' mother opened the door to our knock and talked to us on the porch for about 90 minutes. She has been very friendly in the past but she did not want us in the house today since both boys are now home and she did not want us to talk to her sons. After much talk, we convinced her to introduce us to Deepak (Satish was still sleeping.) We sat down with Deepak and spoke for about 30 minutes (no cameras.) His mother also sat there with us.

We talked about his interrogation, his detention and briefly about Joran. We hope to go back today and have him talk on camera. He may feel more comfortable with us today now that he has met us.


After leaving the Kalpoe home, we went to the chief prosecutor's office. We were told she was "on break" (I think that meant at lunch) but we are patient so we sat down and waited. We waited for about an hour and she appeared from the parking lot. She spotted me and turned her head away and said, as she turned away, "I have to work." I immediately — and politely — introduced myself and I stuck out my hand to shake hers. She reluctantly shook my hand but I felt like she worried her hand might fall off having touched mine. She then turned and left. Yes, she is busy and yes, she has a big job right now. She clearly did not want to talk to me. That's OK. As an aside, we want information — we do not seek to impede the investigation. I did not get a chance to tell her that. She was gone in a flash.

We then got back in the car and headed to the home of one of the anti-media demonstrators' homes. (Two days ago about 200 Arubans demonstrated in front of the courthouse — showing support for the released Kalpoes and complaining about the media.) We interviewed the gentleman and showed that taped interview on last night's show. As an aside, despite being part of the group demonstrating against us, he was very nice to us and very open to a discussion about the American media and the coverage of Aruban judicial system and Natalee Holloway. I enjoyed talking to him. (Note: His wife also could not have been nicer to us! She kept offering us water, tea, etc.)

After we finished the demonstrator's interview, we got back in the car and raced to an interview with Natalee's mother, Beth. In almost every investigation, the first 24 hours are critical for collecting information, clues, etc., so I wanted to walk Beth through that first 24 hours. I wanted to know what she heard, when, who she talked to, etc. Her memory could contain important clues. We played part of that interview last night and will play more tonight. No one had walked Beth through that 24 hours in great detail so I figured it might be informative. Of course, besides learning the facts, we are also reminded of the great pain this woman suffers.

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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