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Author Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #850 10/24/10 - 11/16/10  (Read 190891 times)
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« Reply #640 on: November 09, 2010, 09:49:20 PM »

FWIW - I don't know who people associate with outside of SM and since I can't do anything about it I don't care.  What I can tell you is that Janet has always posted from Canada and the same area of Canada. 

I don't really care who people associate with outside of SM either, it's not any of my business...and I don't usually make it my business.  (The snapshot from CnG was brought here by someone else, not sure who now.)  However, when someone consistently attempts to alienate forum members of a like cause to the point that many won't even post because of the excessive domination and aggravation of one; those associations raise questions in my mind.  Especially the associations that have been referenced.  Just because someone posts from the same place all the time, it doesn't necessarily mean those posts aren't being influenced or contributed to by others...right?
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #641 on: November 09, 2010, 09:49:41 PM »

FWIW - I don't know who people associate with outside of SM and since I can't do anything about it I don't care.  What I can tell you is that Janet has always posted from Canada and the same area of Canada. 


I don't think any of us dispute that she posts from the same area of Canada.  I won't say where.
It is who feeds her the posts that we are concerned with.  it has been observed for well over a year.

Klaas, I am not trying to be disrespectful of you or to cause you trouble, please understand that.

I know that nobody here is trying to cause me trouble but I hate the fighting.  I have enough on my hands as it is in the Kyron and Zahra threads right now.  The Zahra case is becoming one of the more horrendous ones I've ever followed. 
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« Reply #642 on: November 09, 2010, 09:50:59 PM »

FWIW - I don't know who people associate with outside of SM and since I can't do anything about it I don't care.  What I can tell you is that Janet has always posted from Canada and the same area of Canada. 

I don't really care who people associate with outside of SM either, it's not any of my business...and I don't usually make it my business.  (The snapshot from CnG was brought here by someone else, not sure who now.)  However, when someone consistently attempts to alienate forum members of a like cause to the point that many won't even post because of the excessive domination and aggravation of one; those associations raise questions in my mind.  Especially the associations that have been referenced.  Just because someone posts from the same place all the time, it doesn't necessarily mean those posts aren't being influenced or contributed to by others...right?


Yes, that can and does happen.  I've seen it alot in the Caylee case.
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« Reply #643 on: November 09, 2010, 09:54:44 PM »


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I have never received an email from Yapper.   I have never received an email from any Monkey following his/her defection to the GM forum.  There was a line drawn in the sand at that time and I have never crossed it.

For crying out loud.  The prodigal Monkeys uphold John Silvetti ... uphold Caps ... uphold Kyle Kingman.  Texasmom ... you know my stand on each of these characters.  For crying out loud ... I have entire created threads undermining them.

Janet

I believe you Tamikosmom.  That thought never crossed my mind.
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« Reply #644 on: November 09, 2010, 09:56:35 PM »

Why is everyone worried about a certain ex member.  Do they have the power to influence how you think.  You are here for a reason and they are banned for a reason.
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« Reply #645 on: November 09, 2010, 09:56:38 PM »

FWIW - I don't know who people associate with outside of SM and since I can't do anything about it I don't care.  What I can tell you is that Janet has always posted from Canada and the same area of Canada. 


I don't think any of us dispute that she posts from the same area of Canada.  I won't say where.
It is who feeds her the posts that we are concerned with.  it has been observed for well over a year.

Klaas, I am not trying to be disrespectful of you or to cause you trouble, please understand that.

Everybody knows who feeds my posts ... feeds my speculations.  I provide the forum with sources ... I provide the forum with the links.

Janet

 
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« Reply #646 on: November 09, 2010, 10:01:21 PM »


From chit and grunt



Just sayin'   


I have never received an email from Yapper.   I have never received an email from any Monkey following his/her defection to the GM forum.  There was a line drawn in the sand at that time and I have never crossed it.

For crying out loud.  The prodigal Monkeys uphold John Silvetti ... uphold Caps ... uphold Kyle Kingman.  Texasmom ... you know my stand on each of these characters.  For crying out loud ... I have entire created threads undermining them.

Janet

I believe you Tamikosmom.  That thought never crossed my mind.

Thank you San.

 

Janet
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« Reply #647 on: November 09, 2010, 10:06:47 PM »

I wish everyone would stop fighting.  I don't like to see this.
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« Reply #648 on: November 09, 2010, 10:13:52 PM »

I wish everyone would stop fighting.  I don't like to see this.

I agree, San.  It doesn't help Natalee, or Beth, or Dave or their family.  Truthfully, it doesn't help any of us, either.  jmho

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« Reply #649 on: November 09, 2010, 10:15:08 PM »

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http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5700.0
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« Reply #650 on: November 09, 2010, 10:15:40 PM »

My problem with all the "repetitive posts" is that they don't seem to engage the forum in a dialogue. They are meant to derail the discussion. I have tried and tried to respond in a meanigful rebuttal to some of these posts, but they are always ignored. For heaven's sake, please just spit out your opinion IN YOUR OWN WORDS. Quotes taken out of context and several years in age are just not relevant to what is happening TODAY. What I thought I knew 5 years ago is different than what I thought 3 years ago and often different in what I knew 3 months ago. Take what you believe, and tell us in your own words what you have learned in 5 1/2 years. Please, don't insult us by cramming OLD quotes down our throats. We are not all stupid, we take ALL facts into consideration and adapt with time. There I said it.
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« Reply #651 on: November 09, 2010, 10:16:28 PM »


I have never received an email from Yapper.   I have never received an email from any Monkey following his/her defection to the GM forum.  There was a line drawn in the sand at that time and I have never crossed it.

For crying out loud.  The prodigal Monkeys uphold John Silvetti ... uphold Caps ... uphold Kyle Kingman.  Texasmom ... you know my stand on each of these characters.  For crying out loud ... I have entire created threads undermining them.

Janet

I believe you Tamikosmom.  That thought never crossed my mind.

Thank you San.

 

Janet

Thank you again San.

Good Night All.

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« Reply #652 on: November 09, 2010, 10:19:53 PM »


I have never received an email from Yapper.   I have never received an email from any Monkey following his/her defection to the GM forum.  There was a line drawn in the sand at that time and I have never crossed it.

For crying out loud.  The prodigal Monkeys uphold John Silvetti ... uphold Caps ... uphold Kyle Kingman.  Texasmom ... you know my stand on each of these characters.  For crying out loud ... I have entire created threads undermining them.

Janet

I believe you Tamikosmom.  That thought never crossed my mind.

Thank you San.

 

Janet

Thank you again San.

Good Night All.

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You're welcome Tamikosmom.  Have a good night.
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« Reply #653 on: November 09, 2010, 10:21:29 PM »

I don't think any of us here enjoy the unpleasantness, but sometime things have to come to a head.
We have seen posters here drop away one by one due to being browbeaten with repeated postings.

It becomes fruitless to try to counter the posts when you are accused of being rude or insulting if you
disagree.  It is easier to just go away, as many have done.

I don't think anybody here is afraid of the Dark Lard, but we do not enjoy having his minions here among us.
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« Reply #654 on: November 09, 2010, 10:24:22 PM »

My problem with all the "repetitive posts" is that they don't seem to engage the forum in a dialogue. They are meant to derail the discussion. I have tried and tried to respond in a meanigful rebuttal to some of these posts, but they are always ignored. For heaven's sake, please just spit out your opinion IN YOUR OWN WORDS. Quotes taken out of context and several years in age are just not relevant to what is happening TODAY. What I thought I knew 5 years ago is different than what I thought 3 years ago and often different in what I knew 3 months ago. Take what you believe, and tell us in your own words what you have learned in 5 1/2 years. Please, don't insult us by cramming OLD quotes down our throats. We are not all stupid, we take ALL facts into consideration and adapt with time. There I said it.

And you said it so well

I totally agree with you.
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« Reply #655 on: November 09, 2010, 10:28:01 PM »

My problem with all the "repetitive posts" is that they don't seem to engage the forum in a dialogue. They are meant to derail the discussion. I have tried and tried to respond in a meanigful rebuttal to some of these posts, but they are always ignored. For heaven's sake, please just spit out your opinion IN YOUR OWN WORDS. Quotes taken out of context and several years in age are just not relevant to what is happening TODAY. What I thought I knew 5 years ago is different than what I thought 3 years ago and often different in what I knew 3 months ago. Take what you believe, and tell us in your own words what you have learned in 5 1/2 years. Please, don't insult us by cramming OLD quotes down our throats. We are not all stupid, we take ALL facts into consideration and adapt with time. There I said it.

You're absolutely right wreck, and I've missed you!   
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #656 on: November 09, 2010, 10:29:41 PM »

My problem with all the "repetitive posts" is that they don't seem to engage the forum in a dialogue. They are meant to derail the discussion. I have tried and tried to respond in a meanigful rebuttal to some of these posts, but they are always ignored. For heaven's sake, please just spit out your opinion IN YOUR OWN WORDS. Quotes taken out of context and several years in age are just not relevant to what is happening TODAY. What I thought I knew 5 years ago is different than what I thought 3 years ago and often different in what I knew 3 months ago. Take what you believe, and tell us in your own words what you have learned in 5 1/2 years. Please, don't insult us by cramming OLD quotes down our throats. We are not all stupid, we take ALL facts into consideration and adapt with time. There I said it.

After five years my opinion hasn't changed as to what I think happened to Natalee.  So posting information over and over again doesn't bother me because I believe what I want to believe.

If you want to know who I thought was insulting it was a person called CAPSLOCK and Kyle Kingman.  Kyle Kingman thought he was smarter than everyone else. But in my opinion he was just another coward/sneak in this world.
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« Reply #657 on: November 09, 2010, 10:36:30 PM »

Ladies and Gentlemen we have all been here too long to start fighting amongst ourselves.  You may not agree with Tamikosmom's posting but she has also provided a lot of information especially when someone was looking for a link to an article or a post which she has right at her fingertips.

We all contribute in different ways.  We all rely on each other.
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« Reply #658 on: November 09, 2010, 10:37:56 PM »

My problem with all the "repetitive posts" is that they don't seem to engage the forum in a dialogue. They are meant to derail the discussion. I have tried and tried to respond in a meanigful rebuttal to some of these posts, but they are always ignored. For heaven's sake, please just spit out your opinion IN YOUR OWN WORDS. Quotes taken out of context and several years in age are just not relevant to what is happening TODAY. What I thought I knew 5 years ago is different than what I thought 3 years ago and often different in what I knew 3 months ago. Take what you believe, and tell us in your own words what you have learned in 5 1/2 years. Please, don't insult us by cramming OLD quotes down our throats. We are not all stupid, we take ALL facts into consideration and adapt with time. There I said it.

After five years my opinion hasn't changed as to what I think happened to Natalee.  So posting information over and over again doesn't bother me because I believe what I want to believe.

If you want to know who I thought was insulting it was a person called CAPSLOCK and Kyle Kingman.  Kyle Kingman thought he was smarter than everyone else. But in my opinion he was just another coward/sneak in this world.

You are so right San.  Both Caps and Kyle were like a lot of people involved in this case in that they were using Natalee and the tragedy this family has gone through to profit off of it. 

I still read here every day.  Beth will forever be in my heart.  Natalee and Stephanie deserved to live their lives to the fullest and this Monster who sits in prison (I am beginning to have doubts about that prison) with his smug face needs to be done in now and I hope he burns in hell for what he has done to both families.
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« Reply #659 on: November 09, 2010, 10:39:54 PM »

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/archief/de-confrontatie-tussen-beth-en-joran/



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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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