Natalee Case Discussion #850 10/24/10 - 11/16/10

[Blonde]

We will NEVER know the TRUTH 

[Red]

Wouldn't this be something that after all this time it turns out to be a real clue.

Natalee Holloway: Jaw Bone Found in Aruba, Sent for tests at the NFI Forensic Institute in The Hague (Pictures)
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/11/16/natalee-holloway-jaw-bone-found-in-aruba-sent-for-tests-at-the-nfi-forensic-institute-in-the-hague-pictures/

What will Joran, Deepak, Satish and Aruba say next if it is proved to be Natalee ... oh, she drown.

Hopefully this will provide answers, not more speculation.

[Blue Moon]

We will NEVER know the TRUTH 

I so agree with you on that statement.  The most important thing (in my mind) is to bring Natalee back home to her family and her country.  Once that is achieved then all the "monsters" on that island can be outed for what they are. 

I have a sick feeling that jaw bone will never be heard from again. JMO

My prayers are with Beth and Dave this morning that their dear beloved Natalee can come home to rest.  The thoughts all these years she is on that island has been painful for the family and for anyone else who knows what that island is all about.

Aruba should have done something a long time ago---THEY KNEW ALL ALONG. 

[Blue Moon]

Wouldn't this be something that after all this time it turns out to be a real clue.

Natalee Holloway: Jaw Bone Found in Aruba, Sent for tests at the NFI Forensic Institute in The Hague (Pictures)
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/11/16/natalee-holloway-jaw-bone-found-in-aruba-sent-for-tests-at-the-nfi-forensic-institute-in-the-hague-pictures/

What will Joran, Deepak, Satish and Aruba say next if it is proved to be Natalee ... oh, she drown.

Hopefully this will provide answers, not more speculation.

Red, what makes them think this time it is a real clue to Natalee and not thing it on any other bones found over the year?  I wonder if Beth and Peter got any info from Joran while they were at that prison that might have helped in the location?  I hope this is it and she is brought home where she belongs.

[Blue Moon]

Wouldn't this be something that after all this time it turns out to be a real clue.

Natalee Holloway: Jaw Bone Found in Aruba, Sent for tests at the NFI Forensic Institute in The Hague (Pictures)
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/11/16/natalee-holloway-jaw-bone-found-in-aruba-sent-for-tests-at-the-nfi-forensic-institute-in-the-hague-pictures/

What will Joran, Deepak, Satish and Aruba say next if it is proved to be Natalee ... oh, she drown.

Hopefully this will provide answers, not more speculation.

Red, what makes them think this time it is a real clue to Natalee and not thing "think" it on any other bones found over the year?  I wonder if Beth and Peter got any info from Joran while they were at that prison that might have helped in the location?  I hope this is it and she is brought home where she belongs.

correction (thing to think)  sorry.

[Magnolia]

Most bone fragments found on Aruba don't make it to the network news.  I just heard about
the jaw bone on CBS Early Show top headlines right along with Price William's engagement.

Maybe something will come of it.

[can]

Most bone fragments found on Aruba don't make it to the network news.  I just heard about
the jaw bone on CBS Early Show top headlines right along with Price William's engagement.

Maybe something will come of it.

Yes, I heard it too.
Is this the place where someone put a cross?   Thinking of the sad picture of Dave that we saw so long ago.

[Anna]

I heard it mentioned on Fox & Friends just a few minutes ago.  If it had not been Merican tourists who found it, we might never have heard about it.

Now that Joran the Monster has murdered again, maybe Aruba will give it up and stop defending him.  Not even his own mother seems very concerned about him any more.

[Anna]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40210187/ns/world_news-americas
Cops test jawbone for Natalee Holloway link
Report: Forensic experts will examine molar after tourists find remains on Aruba beach

Police are investigating whether a jawbone found on Aruba is linked to the disappearance of U.S. teenager Natalee Holloway, a Dutch newspaper reported Tuesday.

According to De Telegraaf, forensic experts in the Netherlands will carry out tests on the remains.

The bone was found Friday on a beach near the Caribbean resort island's Phoenix Hotel, close to the Bubali swamp, the paper said.

Joran Van der Sloot, who was the last person seen with Holloway before the girl vanished during a high school graduation trip to Aruba in 2005, has previously claimed that he dumped her body in the swamp.

Van der Sloot has publicly said he killed the teen and then retracted his confession several times.

Peruvian authorities are holding Van der Sloot on charges that he killed another woman, Stephany Flores, in his hotel room in Lima, Peru, on May 30 — five years to the day after Holloway's disappearance.

If convicted on murder and robbery charges in Peru, Van der Sloot is likely to be sentenced to between 15 and 35 years in prison, court spokesman Luis Gallardo told The Associated Press in June.

A federal grand jury in Alabama has also indicted Van der Sloot on charges of wire fraud and extortion in relation to the Holloway case.

De Telegraaf said that tourists spotted the bone in the sand on Riba Beach. Police were notified after they handed it in at their hotel's front desk.

De Telegraaf said one molar was intact on the jawbone. Investigators will compare the tooth with Holloway's dental records.
Other bones which police on the island have examined for links to the Holloway case have turned out to be from animals.

Ven der Sloot was arrested twice in connection to Holloway's disappearance, but released both times for a lack of evidence.

NBC News' Nanette Van Der Laan, The Associated Press and msnbc.com staff contributed to this report.

This came up on MSN Messenger so plenty of people will see it.  This link Muffy posted has lots of information including about Beth and the ever handsome and dashing Peter deVries.  There is also a timeline at the bottom of the page.  Good coverage.

[Anna]

All this news this morning!  Wow!  Did we know about Joran's suicide attempt?  I can't remember if we heard about this before or not.  He's such a Drama Queen, I have a hard time taking it seriously, however.

Call me crazy but I am all hopeful over this because now defending Joran makes Aruba look very foolish and backward compared to Peru.  They don't have as much to gain as before and in fact must feel pretty stupid.

And on one of the dozens of true crime programs on TV these days, I saw one about a Dutch scientist who pioneered the use of DNA taken from skin cells found on the clothing of victims so I do feel that if this is Natalee, they will find that.

How stupid am I to jump right back on the roller coaster and be hopeful?  Don't know why but I do feel a ray of hope about this.  But I have been wrong about that before.

[can]

All this news this morning!  Wow!  Did we know about Joran's suicide attempt?  I can't remember if we heard about this before or not.  He's such a Drama Queen, I have a hard time taking it seriously, however.

Call me crazy but I am all hopeful over this because now defending Joran makes Aruba look very foolish and backward compared to Peru.  They don't have as much to gain as before and in fact must feel pretty stupid.

And on one of the dozens of true crime programs on TV these days, I saw one about a Dutch scientist who pioneered the use of DNA taken from skin cells found on the clothing of victims so I do feel that if this is Natalee, they will find that.

How stupid am I to jump right back on the roller coaster and be hopeful?  Don't know why but I do feel a ray of hope about this.  But I have been wrong about that before.

Good morning Anna.  You're not stupid at all, far from it.
I'll hope right along with you.   

[MuffyBee]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40210187/ns/world_news-americas
Cops test jawbone for Natalee Holloway link
Report: Forensic experts will examine molar after tourists find remains on Aruba beach

Police are investigating whether a jawbone found on Aruba is linked to the disappearance of U.S. teenager Natalee Holloway, a Dutch newspaper reported Tuesday.

According to De Telegraaf, forensic experts in the Netherlands will carry out tests on the remains.

The bone was found Friday on a beach near the Caribbean resort island's Phoenix Hotel, close to the Bubali swamp, the paper said.

Joran Van der Sloot, who was the last person seen with Holloway before the girl vanished during a high school graduation trip to Aruba in 2005, has previously claimed that he dumped her body in the swamp.

Van der Sloot has publicly said he killed the teen and then retracted his confession several times.

Peruvian authorities are holding Van der Sloot on charges that he killed another woman, Stephany Flores, in his hotel room in Lima, Peru, on May 30 — five years to the day after Holloway's disappearance.

If convicted on murder and robbery charges in Peru, Van der Sloot is likely to be sentenced to between 15 and 35 years in prison, court spokesman Luis Gallardo told The Associated Press in June.

A federal grand jury in Alabama has also indicted Van der Sloot on charges of wire fraud and extortion in relation to the Holloway case.

De Telegraaf said that tourists spotted the bone in the sand on Riba Beach. Police were notified after they handed it in at their hotel's front desk.

De Telegraaf said one molar was intact on the jawbone. Investigators will compare the tooth with Holloway's dental records.
Other bones which police on the island have examined for links to the Holloway case have turned out to be from animals.

Ven der Sloot was arrested twice in connection to Holloway's disappearance, but released both times for a lack of evidence.

NBC News' Nanette Van Der Laan, The Associated Press and msnbc.com staff contributed to this report.

This came up on MSN Messenger so plenty of people will see it.  This link Muffy posted has lots of information including about Beth and the ever handsome and dashing Peter deVries.  There is also a timeline at the bottom of the page.  Good coverage.

Anna- I agree with you and I was glad to see this news carried on MSN.  Most that read/post in NH thread probably already knew the info in the article I posted, but like you, I feel "plenty of people will see it" since it's carried on MSN.  It's good to see coverage in Natalee's case back out there.  I also agree that Peter deVries is handsome and dashing, but if he helps Beth, which helps Natalee, then he's definitely wearing a white hat.  (One of the good guys) 

[MuffyBee]

All this news this morning!  Wow!  Did we know about Joran's suicide attempt?  I can't remember if we heard about this before or not.  He's such a Drama Queen, I have a hard time taking it seriously, however.

Call me crazy but I am all hopeful over this because now defending Joran makes Aruba look very foolish and backward compared to Peru.  They don't have as much to gain as before and in fact must feel pretty stupid.

And on one of the dozens of true crime programs on TV these days, I saw one about a Dutch scientist who pioneered the use of DNA taken from skin cells found on the clothing of victims so I do feel that if this is Natalee, they will find that.

How stupid am I to jump right back on the roller coaster and be hopeful?  Don't know why but I do feel a ray of hope about this.  But I have been wrong about that before.

Good morning Anna.  You're not stupid at all, far from it.
I'll hope right along with you.   

Never give up.  I stand with the girl.  Justice for Natalee is just around the corner.  I'm not providing quotes and links, but we've seen some of these words/phrases before and they are still relevant, imo.  Oh, and one more:  There is always hope. 

[klaasend]

I see you all got the alerts too

I hope there is something to it this time.  Normally bones found in Aruba don't cause this much stir.   

[klaasend]

Location where jawbone washed ashore

[Blonde]

  I Don't  feel a ray of hope about this.  But I have been wrong about that before.
If this is  Natalee's bone we will never know ...

[klaasend]

I find it unusual that the media is all over this.  Normally when a bone is found in Aruba it's dismissed and that is the last we hear about it.  If we ask later, they claim it was a donkey bone or monkey bone but not human.  This time is different.  WHY?

[2NJSons_Mom]

I find it unusual that the media is all over this.  Normally when a bone is found in Aruba it's dismissed and that is the last we hear about it.  If we ask later, they claim it was a donkey bone or monkey bone but not human.  This time is different.  WHY?

My thoughts were along the same lines, except I was focusing on how quickly the bone was sent to Dutch forensics.  Then, I remembered when they loaded up all of the 'evidence' on Natalee's case to send to the NL...where is it now? 

[klaasend]

[Lisa in MD]

Location where jawbone washed ashore

Klaasend this is awesome!  The first image I thought of was were were the hotels in relationship to each other. You are Sooo On it!

Hope is what binds us until the truth become reality!

Justice for Natalee and Peace for her family!