Caylee Marie Anthony #174 10/29/10 - 11/29/10

[SunnyinTX]

Kathi Belich Report 10/29/10
http://www.wftv.com/video/25569950/index.html

so Kathi answered one of my questions.....Kc did NOT wear shackles today.....

[SunnyinTX]

Kathi Belich Report 10/29/10
http://www.wftv.com/video/25569950/index.html

Thanks Trimm!  What could Casey have been crying over....most likely something to do with herself. Did she trip/stumble again and cried so her shackles would be removed?  She didn't want to wear that ugly green blouse again? She couldn't do a thing with her hair?

Kc crying????  when? 

[Northern Rose]

Judge to Casey Anthony attorney: 'I'm not going to write an open check.'
The overall cost of defending Casey Anthony so far has approached $300,000.

Chief Circuit Judge Belvin Perry made two things perfectly clear to Casey Anthony and her attorneys Friday: He will not seal jail logs pertaining to the young woman and he will not let public dollars be wasted in her defense.

"I'm not going to write an open check," Perry told defense lawyers and their client, who appeared in court Friday for the first time since summer.

Friday's hearing covered a broad range of issues from finances and public records to deposition deadlines and spats between the prosecution and the defense. But the money and the jail records were the key issues handled Friday.

Anthony's defense team had earlier asked Perry to seal visitation and phone logs and commissary records. On Friday, they also asked to have her mail kept from public review. They cited a recent appellate court ruling in South Florida, which would restrict public access to recorded jail inmate telephone conversations. The Orlando Sentinel's attorneys filed a motion earlier this week asking the court not to seal the records, and attorney Gregg Thomas argued that stance Friday.

Perry said that ruling was not yet final, but even assuming it was, he did not see how its narrow scope could extend to the Casey Anthony phone logs and the other jail records.

More significant time was spent Friday discussing the future financing of Anthony's defense. Between private money and public dollars, nearly $300,000 has been used to defend the woman during the last two years. Most was private funding, but since Anthony was declared indigent in March, the public has been billed roughly $38,672 for Casey Anthony's defense. Only about $18,405 has been paid out so far.

Anthony, 24, is charged with first-degree murder in the 2008 death of her 2-year-old daughter Caylee Marie, whose body was found in a heavily wooded area near the Anthony home months after she was reported missing. The woman faces the death penalty if convicted. Her trial is set to start in May.

Defense attorneys Jose Baez and Cheney Mason argued that the task of tracking down Texas EquuSearch volunteers who searched the area off Suburban Drive in 2008 has been tedious and drawn out, causing them to ask for additional funds for investigation. These potential witnesses are important if they can say they searched in the immediate area where the child's remains were ultimately found but saw nothing during their early searches.

While learning of the attempts to contact these searchers, Perry warned defense attorney Jose Baez: "Taxpayer funds do not allow you to go off on a fishing expedition."

At one point, Baez acknowledged 300 hours of investigative expenses has been "completely exhausted."

Meanwhile, new defense attorney Ann Finnell, who is helping prepare the defense for the penalty phase should Anthony be found guilty, made separate requests for expenses related to "mitigation" in the case.

Perry ultimately approved $2,500 in funding for a psychiatrist or psychologist to do evaluation; $500 for additional copies; 100 hours of penalty phase investigation or mitigation expert expenses at $40 an hour; and an additional 60 hours of regular investigation expenses at $40 an hour.

Perry denied Finnell's request for travel and lodging expenses for trips she must make between Jacksonville, where she is based, and Orlando. Finnell and the other attorneys are not now collecting a fee for their work on the case.

Perry also said he wants to hear more about the defense sending an investigator or specialist to Ohio, where Casey Anthony was born and lived the first few years of her life. The defense wants to speak to people there about her early life as part of an in-depth probe, but at one point, Perry asked, "Do we know why that can't be accomplished talking to them over the phone?"

Several times Friday, Perry noted how long this case has drawn out for more than two years and urged the attorneys to stick to deadlines for depositions.

Since 2008, the Casey Anthony case has gained national notoriety and a big-league price tag.

Death penalty attorney Todd Doss, the Death Penalty chair for the Florida Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, says his fee in death cases starts at $100,000, not including costs.

But a case like Casey Anthony's, Doss said, would run significantly higher because of the size of the investigation, number of witnesses, complexity of evidence and intense media attention given the case.

"I surely would not quote Casey Anthony that [$100,000 figure]," Doss said. "I don't think $100,000 would be enough for that case. It would absolutely be well past the $100,000 mark. You need multiple attorneys to be able to handle the enormity of the case."

Asked earlier this week about the costs associated with the Anthony case, Baez said, there has been "no abuse of funds whatsoever in this case."

"Anyone who wants to complain about the costs should ask: Is this something I would have a problem with myself?" Baez said. "It's extremely difficult to say this is how much it should cost to defend a capital case. You can't put a price on a human life or what it costs."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-hearing-friday-20101029,0,2167120.story

[Brandi]

did Casey Ho even look at her parents at any time during the court case?
does everyone feel good or confident about what happened today in court? I am trying to catch up with what all happened today...thanks all...

My video cut out and I don't know if Casey looked at her parents.I doubt it.
The hearing was good.you have to watch it.   
Off to play with Sidekick.   

This is her walking out.

I never saw her walk in.

But as she walked out, it appeared to me as if she did all she could to avoid eye contact with George and Cindy.

[crazybabyborg]

Wouldn't you think that Cindy could supply something other than that green, snow white puff sleeved, ill-fitting shirt for Casey to wear? I could care less, but I think it's odd that Cindy chooses that for her.

Something tailored, understated, and in good taste would be so much more appropriate. Well........... maybe I just answered my own question. Anthony's don't understand appropriate.

[Love2Read]

Today's hearing
Part One   http://www.wftv.com/video/25566372/index.html
Part Two   http://www.wftv.com/video/25567059/index.html
Part Three http://www.wftv.com/video/25567604/index.html

 
Thanks Trimm.     

Hey Sassy!I am gonna watch it again tomorrow.
I loved this part.......
"Taxpayer funds do not allow you to go on fishing expeditions,” Perry said. “It must be for a particular need not for drilling and hoping that you are going to find oil when there is no signs that there is oil there."     

That was my favorite quote from today's hearing. LOL

[TURBOTHINK]

I didn't get to watch today, and haven't had time to watch the videos yet, but from looking at what has been posted and some of the pictures it seems as if a lot of things were different today. First, where is the entorage of "friends" and church members who usually come with the Anthonys? 

The only person I saw there was that kook Joy (and what was all that bush on the back of her head?)  Then we get to their previous attorney - remember how he said he would be there to support them from then on?  LOL  Guess his mouth like all the others has written a paycheck his butt could not cash.

It seems it was rather anti climatic and to be honest I was appalled that the PI who has been accused of witness tampering was awarded anymore time. Maybe that was because they figure give him enough rope and he will hang himself. I guess the witness tampering is still under investigation so it could not be brought up in court yet.

Last, I wondered if Buchanan's lack of appearing for deposition was brought up by the state. Did anyone hear amything about that?

[Bearlyhere]

Kathi Belich Report 10/29/10
http://www.wftv.com/video/25569950/index.html

Thanks Trimm!  What could Casey have been crying over....most likely something to do with herself. Did she trip/stumble again and cried so her shackles would be removed?  She didn't want to wear that ugly green blouse again? She couldn't do a thing with her hair?

   She was not a happy camper today.The whole defense team acted like they were mad at each other.Something was off with them today.Me thinks things aren't looking to good for them.   
I really wish someone would take Mason down another notch or two.I can't stand him.   
I still want to know where all that money went.

I wonder if they were trying to talk to her about a deal.  She is against it and that is why another attorney left.  She is putting the nails in her own coffin.  In the beginning, she could have gotten off with 8.  Now the best she can hope for is life.

[Bearlyhere]

Judge to Casey Anthony attorney: 'I'm not going to write an open check.'
The overall cost of defending Casey Anthony so far has approached $300,000.

Chief Circuit Judge Belvin Perry made two things perfectly clear to Casey Anthony and her attorneys Friday: He will not seal jail logs pertaining to the young woman and he will not let public dollars be wasted in her defense.

"I'm not going to write an open check," Perry told defense lawyers and their client, who appeared in court Friday for the first time since summer.

Friday's hearing covered a broad range of issues from finances and public records to deposition deadlines and spats between the prosecution and the defense. But the money and the jail records were the key issues handled Friday.

Anthony's defense team had earlier asked Perry to seal visitation and phone logs and commissary records. On Friday, they also asked to have her mail kept from public review. They cited a recent appellate court ruling in South Florida, which would restrict public access to recorded jail inmate telephone conversations. The Orlando Sentinel's attorneys filed a motion earlier this week asking the court not to seal the records, and attorney Gregg Thomas argued that stance Friday.

Perry said that ruling was not yet final, but even assuming it was, he did not see how its narrow scope could extend to the Casey Anthony phone logs and the other jail records.

More significant time was spent Friday discussing the future financing of Anthony's defense. Between private money and public dollars, nearly $300,000 has been used to defend the woman during the last two years. Most was private funding, but since Anthony was declared indigent in March, the public has been billed roughly $38,672 for Casey Anthony's defense. Only about $18,405 has been paid out so far.

Anthony, 24, is charged with first-degree murder in the 2008 death of her 2-year-old daughter Caylee Marie, whose body was found in a heavily wooded area near the Anthony home months after she was reported missing. The woman faces the death penalty if convicted. Her trial is set to start in May.

Defense attorneys Jose Baez and Cheney Mason argued that the task of tracking down Texas EquuSearch volunteers who searched the area off Suburban Drive in 2008 has been tedious and drawn out, causing them to ask for additional funds for investigation. These potential witnesses are important if they can say they searched in the immediate area where the child's remains were ultimately found but saw nothing during their early searches.

While learning of the attempts to contact these searchers, Perry warned defense attorney Jose Baez: "Taxpayer funds do not allow you to go off on a fishing expedition."

At one point, Baez acknowledged 300 hours of investigative expenses has been "completely exhausted."

Meanwhile, new defense attorney Ann Finnell, who is helping prepare the defense for the penalty phase should Anthony be found guilty, made separate requests for expenses related to "mitigation" in the case.

Perry ultimately approved $2,500 in funding for a psychiatrist or psychologist to do evaluation; $500 for additional copies; 100 hours of penalty phase investigation or mitigation expert expenses at $40 an hour; and an additional 60 hours of regular investigation expenses at $40 an hour.

Perry denied Finnell's request for travel and lodging expenses for trips she must make between Jacksonville, where she is based, and Orlando. Finnell and the other attorneys are not now collecting a fee for their work on the case.

Perry also said he wants to hear more about the defense sending an investigator or specialist to Ohio, where Casey Anthony was born and lived the first few years of her life. The defense wants to speak to people there about her early life as part of an in-depth probe, but at one point, Perry asked, "Do we know why that can't be accomplished talking to them over the phone?"

Several times Friday, Perry noted how long this case has drawn out for more than two years and urged the attorneys to stick to deadlines for depositions.

Since 2008, the Casey Anthony case has gained national notoriety and a big-league price tag.

Death penalty attorney Todd Doss, the Death Penalty chair for the Florida Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, says his fee in death cases starts at $100,000, not including costs.

But a case like Casey Anthony's, Doss said, would run significantly higher because of the size of the investigation, number of witnesses, complexity of evidence and intense media attention given the case.

"I surely would not quote Casey Anthony that [$100,000 figure]," Doss said. "I don't think $100,000 would be enough for that case. It would absolutely be well past the $100,000 mark. You need multiple attorneys to be able to handle the enormity of the case."

Asked earlier this week about the costs associated with the Anthony case, Baez said, there has been "no abuse of funds whatsoever in this case."

"Anyone who wants to complain about the costs should ask: Is this something I would have a problem with myself?" Baez said. "It's extremely difficult to say this is how much it should cost to defend a capital case. You can't put a price on a human life or what it costs."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-hearing-friday-20101029,0,2167120.story

It's a shame they pizzed away so much of the $350,000. or they would have had enough for Todd Doss.

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/october/167169/Request-to-seal-Casey-Anthony%E2%80%99s-jailhouse-records-denied

Request to seal Casey Anthony’s jailhouse records denied
By Nick VinZant, Reporter
Last Updated: Saturday, October 30, 2010 2:03 AM
ORLANDO --

Casey Anthony’s defense lawyers went to court Friday to try to get more money and more privacy.

Anthony's defense team wanted to get jail records sealed and out of the public’s hands.

Judge Belvin Perry denied the request, but did leave the door open for a future ruling.

In a second request, Anthony's attorneys asked for more money for private investigators, court document copies and travel expenses.

The defense argued they need the money to give Anthony a fair trial.

Perry did award the defense some additional money, but said he wouldn't write a blank check.

"Taxpayer funds do not allow you to go on fishing expeditions,” Perry said. “It must be for a particular need. Not for drilling and hoping that you are going to find oil when there is no signs that there is oil there."

Perry did award the defense team around $3,000 for legal expenses. He said the public would not pay for travel expenses.

[trimmonthelake]

Kathi Belich Report 10/29/10
http://www.wftv.com/video/25569950/index.html

Thanks Trimm!  What could Casey have been crying over....most likely something to do with herself. Did she trip/stumble again and cried so her shackles would be removed?  She didn't want to wear that ugly green blouse again? She couldn't do a thing with her hair?

   She was not a happy camper today.The whole defense team acted like they were mad at each other.Something was off with them today.Me thinks things aren't looking to good for them.   
I really wish someone would take Mason down another notch or two.I can't stand him.   
I still want to know where all that money went.

I wonder if they were trying to talk to her about a deal.  She is against it and that is why another attorney left.  She is putting the nails in her own coffin.  In the beginning, she could have gotten off with 8.  Now the best she can hope for is life.

 

[trimmonthelake]

Posted at InSession  http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=374095&page=8

For anyone who's interested, a Hinky poster was in the courtroom today, nic is "Thisbe." She gives a summation of her observations at comment 4:10:02 (October 29).

ETA: And another at 4:10:43.
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/10/29/caylee-anthony-case-hearing-today-mish-mash-and-a-rehash/#comments

[tupelohoney]

   Good Morning Monkeys!

IF Casey's lawyers were talking to her about a plea deal....why on earth would they wait until right before a hearing to discuss it with her? Usual Baez laziness?  Or since the depos were taken in VA, have they been riding her about taking a plea, because they now know without a shadow of doubt that Casey killed Caylee?  I can see her becoming angry enough to cry all the while denying everything.  She's never gonna crack and I don't feel the State would accept a deal anyway.  If a plea is reached, I feel it will be only because of the massive amount of money the State of Florida has had to dish out. MOO

[trimmonthelake]

Today's hearing
Part One   http://www.wftv.com/video/25566372/index.html
Part Two   http://www.wftv.com/video/25567059/index.html
Part Three http://www.wftv.com/video/25567604/index.html
Part Four  http://www.wftv.com/video/25568340/index.html

(edit to add part 4)

[tupelohoney]

Posted at InSession  http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=374095&page=8

For anyone who's interested, a Hinky poster was in the courtroom today, nic is "Thisbe." She gives a summation of her observations at comment 4:10:02 (October 29).

ETA: And another at 4:10:43.
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/10/29/caylee-anthony-case-hearing-today-mish-mash-and-a-rehash/#comments

Thanks Trimm....you're the best!

I'm still reading but came upon this:

 Thisbe said: { Oct 29, 2010 - 02:10:50 }
She DID have on leg shackles

????

[tupelohoney]

Posted at InSession  http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=374095&page=8

For anyone who's interested, a Hinky poster was in the courtroom today, nic is "Thisbe." She gives a summation of her observations at comment 4:10:02 (October 29).

ETA: And another at 4:10:43.
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/10/29/caylee-anthony-case-hearing-today-mish-mash-and-a-rehash/#comments

I just wanted to post Thisbe's summary:

» Thisbe said: { Oct 29, 2010 - 04:10:02 }
OK-Here is my report from the court.
There are 7-8 deputies in charge at all times.
Mason has a lisp and when he gets agitated he speeds up and is hard to understand,
I think it was Joy Wray in a wheelchair with a broken ankle. She tried to shadow the Ants out of the courtroom but they were able to ditch her.
She rolled in late and parked her bod + wheelchair in the middle between the defense and pros. at the front no less. At times she had on prescription sunglasses.
Marinade chats it up with everyone in the hall and inside before court. He’s very affable but I could easily hear whatever he was talking about and hes, well, ‘chatty’. Not criticizing just observing. I can see him unwittingly getting “down” with that defense investigator and getting his words used against him.
The courtroom is all shades of sea foam green. Maybe they dress her in that color to blend it and not stand out. (???) She seemed thinner in person.
I totally do not look like Kathy Belich. She is lovely and sharp. The closest I get to a resemblance is sitting behind her. I was wearing a white jacket loaned by my dtr as I didnt really have proper court clothes with me.
Anyone who follows this case would benefit by seeing it life size. It brings it down to human scale…. The courtroom is huge and very high tech.
Schaeffer and his intern in the row next to me and at the first when Baez was hee hawing around, he drew a cartoon of a goat and passed it up to Belich.
There was some emotional ‘lawyering and postering’ at the end by Mason and Drane-Burdick. Baez tried to be play some sort of peace keeper -high ground taker-at the end but it fell flat as far as I’m concerned.
I actually felt badly for the Anthonys. I know its not a popular stance but there it is. Cindy seemed achingly sad. The cameras followed her to the elevator and she just turned her face to the wall and put her head down. They walked to the garage alone. I was behind them allowing space. I try to be honoring of my own and other peoples pain. (am a social worker after all… This is all so sad and needless and certainly all of Casey’s doing.
There you go. Now I need to catch up with ya’lls comments from the day…..

» Thisbe said: { Oct 29, 2010 - 04:10:43 }
Casey did look angry as she left the courtroom. Her mother leaned over the rail to try and get her attention but Casey ignored her and slunked off. She looked pissy at different times during the hearing.
Sort of tuned up (blinked eyes, swallowed hard) when they talked about her being in Ohio until 3. (whats that about?)
Cindy also looked down and slumped when talking about Ohio…There seems to be family that wont talk to the defense lawyer, Finnell there.

» Thisbe said: { Oct 29, 2010 - 05:10:38 }
OK I did not see shackles… But a band like arrangement around her ankles. She took little steps….I promise I saw them. I was 10 ft away. Not Shackles  but some device around her ankles.

[tupelohoney]

Here's another post over at HM regarding shackles:

» WooBabie said: { Oct 30, 2010 - 04:10:21 }
Casey’s shackles…………
I’m betting that they had an alternative plan for her shackles. Instead of wearing the chains vs. not wearing them, they probably used something that is like two ankle “cuffs” with a leather strap connecting them, or nylon strap. I realized they might’ve had an alternative like they have plastic zip tie cuffs instead of metal handcuffs, so I looked it up.
In the 2nd row of items on this page you’ll see what I’m talking about. This is probably what Casey had and explains why some people say she was shackled and some say she wasn’t. Thisbe said she had something “brown” strapped on her ankles.
http://www.pxdirect.com/Restraint-Ankle.htm

[monkalicious]

Good morning, Monkeys...I've been pondering for awhile now about WHY Baez and Co. keep harping on trying to keep the public from knowing about Casey's phone calls, commissary orders and visitor logs.  I've speculated that the jail log issue has to do with some brokered media deal, or something as simple as not wanting to tip their hand with people knowing they are going with a "psychiatric" defense.  But what if the real issue is that they want to keep the damning phone calls, (especially the "Give me Tony's phone number" one,) out of the trial.
I know they lost on the Cindy 911 phone call, but could they try to be eeling around the issue with these motions? 
I don't know.  I just wish the defense wasn't so slippery and slimy.  I've got a lot of admiration for the State, there is no way I could work with these people.

[monkalicious]

Here's another post over at HM regarding shackles:

» WooBabie said: { Oct 30, 2010 - 04:10:21 }
Casey’s shackles…………
I’m betting that they had an alternative plan for her shackles. Instead of wearing the chains vs. not wearing them, they probably used something that is like two ankle “cuffs” with a leather strap connecting them, or nylon strap. I realized they might’ve had an alternative like they have plastic zip tie cuffs instead of metal handcuffs, so I looked it up.
In the 2nd row of items on this page you’ll see what I’m talking about. This is probably what Casey had and explains why some people say she was shackled and some say she wasn’t. Thisbe said she had something “brown” strapped on her ankles.
http://www.pxdirect.com/Restraint-Ankle.htm

Thanks for this, Tupelo.  Personally, I don't see Casey running amok in court, but I think she needs to be reminded that this isn't a garden party, she's there because she is being held for a capital crime.  Although I find her "Murdering Whore" Courtroom Collection amusing, I wish she would wear prison garb.  I believe that she thinks she's "dressing for her closeup, Mr. Demille."

[trimmonthelake]

Here's another post over at HM regarding shackles:

» WooBabie said: { Oct 30, 2010 - 04:10:21 }
Casey’s shackles…………
I’m betting that they had an alternative plan for her shackles. Instead of wearing the chains vs. not wearing them, they probably used something that is like two ankle “cuffs” with a leather strap connecting them, or nylon strap. I realized they might’ve had an alternative like they have plastic zip tie cuffs instead of metal handcuffs, so I looked it up.
In the 2nd row of items on this page you’ll see what I’m talking about. This is probably what Casey had and explains why some people say she was shackled and some say she wasn’t. Thisbe said she had something “brown” strapped on her ankles.
http://www.pxdirect.com/Restraint-Ankle.htm

Thanks Tupelo!I just came back to the laptop.I'll go check it out.   

(My heat just went out and getting someone to come to the lake on a Saturday and fix it would be like Casey walking out of lockup.  )