Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #851 11/16/10 - 11/20/10

[Northern Rose]

Break In Natalee Holloway Case? Jaw Bone Found On Beach

Authorities are testing a jaw bone found on a beach in Aruba, RadarOnline.com has learned, to see if any DNA or dental records match up with that of Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway, who vanished on the Caribbean island five years ago.

The bone was found Friday by tourists, who took it to the front desk of the nearby Phoenix Hotel, who subsequently forwarded it to authorities, according to Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf.

Netherlands National Forensic Institute spokeswoman Inge Oevering told CNN, "The prosecutor's office of Aruba sent us some bone material," adding the testing process traditionally takes a week to complete.

It’s still unknown if the jaw bone belonged to an animal or human being, CNN reported. If there is any match, the bone would be the first shred of evidence in connection with Holloway’s disappearance.


http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/11/break-natalie-holloway-case-jaw-bone-found-beach

[Tater]

Hi antunym, Robyn621, tbivens   

Sorry I missed you, Spooky.   

Well you missed me too but Hi Muffy!!! It's always good to see you!!Hugs

[klaasend]

DANA sent me the prerecorded interview with Jossy!  

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/qKzPYyUEJMo?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;amp;color2=0x6b8ab6" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/qKzPYyUEJMo?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;amp;color2=0x6b8ab6</a>

[MuffyBee]

Hi antunym, Robyn621, tbivens   

Sorry I missed you, Spooky.   

Well you missed me too but Hi Muffy!!! It's always good to see you!!Hugs

Hi Taterkins    It's always good to see you too!

And a big monkey wave to  Northern Rose, mom2eloise, tbivens, MalteseMom, Lisa in MD 

And of course, Klaasend who's always here 

[Northern Rose]

Peter R. Ferris does not believe in Holloway jaw

AMSTERDAM - Crime reporter Peter R. Ferris expects that the remains that are found on the beach in Aruba, Natalee Holloway are not.

On his website he writes: "There has often been claimed that some of Natalee Holloway was found, such as clothing or a piece of bone. Each gave her mother Beth hopes, but ended up again and again nothing. Also this time I consider the chance that a tiny remnant of Natalee. It would then be washed, in the sea and I can not imagine that after five years something of it. "

The conscious part jaw was on the beach at the lake Bubali found. This is one of the places that Joran van der Sloot pointed out, as the location where he body of American teenager would have hidden.

The Dutch Forensic Institute (NFI) investigates on behalf of the public prosecutor in Aruba, the jaw portion. (EBO)

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1000/Nieuws/article/detail/535311/2010/11/16/Peter-R-de-Vries-gelooft-niet-in-Holloway-kaak.dhtml

[klaasend]

Listen to the interview with Jossy 

[Buckeye]

"human....young white person...."

Max Devries??

[trimmonthelake]

Thanks Klaas! 

[klaasend]

"human....young white person...."

Max Devries??

Or Natalee

[klaasend]

"human....young white person...."

Max Devries??

Or Natalee

Max was 14 and Natalee 17, their skeletal size was probably not too different in size.

[Kermit]

Maybe there is one good cop in Aruba that took the evidence and tossed it in a wave - to be found! maybe.............

[Nut44x4]

"human....young white person...."

Max Devries??

Or Natalee

Max was 14 and Natalee 17, their skeletal size was probably not too different in size.

This is true.

[klaasend]

Maybe there is one good cop in Aruba that took the evidence and tossed it in a wave - to be found! maybe.............

One can hope

[Kermit]

viet vet wrote:

Speaking of off the record comments, we were told were to find Joran at the International School on a Friday , June 2 or 3, have it in my notes. Was also told Joran hit Natalee with an aluminum baseball bat…in the head. The same man told me both stories and guess what, Joran was at the International School that day, hiding. He was sleeping over there rather than home,,, scared he was. The fine Aruba Police followed us to the school that day or maybe we would already have solved this case. Yeah Karin, a bounch of cowboys…

[klaasend]

"human....young white person...."

Max Devries??

Or Natalee

Max was 14 and Natalee 17, their skeletal size was probably not too different in size.

This is true.

Thanks Nut - you know more about this than I do but I'd bet Max was almost as big as Natalee if not bigger.  He may have looked younger.  Personally, I stopped growing at age 12. 

[SunnyinTX]

Listen to the interview with Jossy 

thanks to Dana and Klaas.....how are they gonna turn a human jaw bone into a donkey jaw bone???

[Blue Moon]

Break In Natalee Holloway Case? Jaw Bone Found On Beach

Authorities are testing a jaw bone found on a beach in Aruba, RadarOnline.com has learned, to see if any DNA or dental records match up with that of Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway, who vanished on the Caribbean island five years ago.

The bone was found Friday by tourists, who took it to the front desk of the nearby Phoenix Hotel, who subsequently forwarded it to authorities, according to Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf.

Netherlands National Forensic Institute spokeswoman Inge Oevering told CNN, "The prosecutor's office of Aruba sent us some bone material," adding the testing process traditionally takes a week to complete.

It’s still unknown if the jaw bone belonged to an animal or human being, CNN reported. If there is any match, the bone would be the first shred of evidence in connection with Holloway’s disappearance.


http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/11/break-natalie-holloway-case-jaw-bone-found-beach

Prosecutor's office send some bone material-----What did they do, pull all the teeth from the jawbone before they sent it off?  My thought is if this is from Natalee then it is from the cage.  JMO  I DO NOT TRUST THEM AT ALL.

[texasmom]

Texasmom - when you get a minute, could you re-post this article from the last thread?


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8719.msg1262265#msg1262265


http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/24315-agente-di-polis-deteni-pa-fula-un-dama-.html


I'm wondering if G. Geerman might not be Gerardo Geerman, of Shiribana 6 wasn't it?

 

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/24315-agente-di-polis-deteni-pa-fula-un-dama-.html



Papiamentu translation:

agent by police deteni before feel one lady

monday, 15 november 2010 22:27

monday morning 9or the agent by police g. geerman owing to remain deteni at keep by police old at santa cruz, at office by bizo (departamento cu is investiga kehonan contra polis). the young police have barely some moon on caya because aspirante but already is sospechoso by one caso in cual the will owing to feel one muhe in pova. the is one caso very delicado cu will did take luga at moon by october come to anend, then precisamente in club by police, esta pova situa at barcadera. look like cu the agent policial will owing to touch cu the lady at one part by her curpa inapropia by cual the lady owing to feel cu owing to atacha the integridad by her curpa. the caso is become more earnest, because the victima will owing to drag atencion by the defensor by ley before her acto, y here the police owing to mustr’e cu the is ful’e once more. the lady corectamente owing to entrega one complaint oficial at police cu owing to wordo investiga by by bizo, under supervision by ministerio publico. today morning owing to haci one cita before 9or cu the police y so cu past owing to march come into office by bizo, owing to detene for her investigacion here. after fiscal owing to dicidi by allow cer’e in gaol, pendiente the investigacion in her contra. the police is wordo sospecha by will owing to comete the delito in ley, conoci because articulo 252. before facilita we usuarionan, we owing to re produci the articulo at dutch self, manner the is aparece in we codigo penal, before facilidad by we usuarionan.

artikel 252

Google Dutch translation:

He who by force or other act or threat of violence or other act someone forces us to commit or tolerate indecent acts, shall be guilty of actual indecent assault punishable by imprisonment not exceeding eight years or a fine not exceeding one hundred thousand florin.

[Tater]

I was thinking that too Blue Moon and was wanting to ask Kermit about the location of this bone and where the trap was located.Could it have washed up from that location?I still think she was in that trap and just cant seem to let it go.Would it take five years to go that distance from the trap to the beach?I just dont know...

[klaasend]

TM - I saw an article in awe24 or 24hora that mention Shiribana.  Let me look.