Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #851 11/16/10 - 11/20/10

[Jonathan45]

That former judge Wedzinga has published today a follow up in his investigation in this unsolved case.


 http://www.raadsheer-wedzinga.nl/

[can]

Thoughts and love go out to Beth as she waits.
 

[Nut44x4]

To all Nat's family and friends

[Lisa in MD]

If it is Natalee (I think it is) the FBI and the Hague are probably trying to figure out how to proceed before they release the information.

If it isn't Natalee they are probably trying to figure out who it is and how to proceed before they release the information.

I would think that the Hague involving the FBI is an indication that it is Natalee.

[SunnyinTX]

The psychic may bat 1000 as far as what happened to Natalee or where her body may be. I agree with you, Lisa in MD, the psychic stuff is an individual opinion as to how much weight anybody gives it, and I have no problem at all with anybody's choices in that regard or that someone shares it here on the thread.

I just feel compelled to say this, based on my own opinions. At the point that psychics begin saying anything troubling about Natalee's spirit, I'm going to voice my opinion and belief.

Natalee's spirit is at total peace and Natalee is home. We are the ones that aren't. I believe that Natalee's life goes on and that Natalee is more alive than she was when she was here and that she knows pure joy in ways we can only imagine. I believe that when this earth had to let go of her hand, it was gently grasped by God's and He will never let go.

On occasion, Natalee's family reads here and I just couldn't let the suggestion that Natalee is anything less than whole, happy, and at peace, go unchallenged. My opinion certainly isn't intended to offend the psychic or you, Lisa in MD. I just had to say it. 

CBB thank you so much for putting this into words. I know what you say is true but doubt I could articulated this as well as you have. I believe that Natalee prays for us, prays that we find peace.....

[SunnyinTX]

At airport ;-)I

 

[SunnyinTX]

Admitting it is Natalee doesn'nt mean they are admitting to lying.  Shoot the could say she jumped in the ocean on her own.
Have to go be back later

yep, one of the beast's stories was he left her on the beach and she was drunk....so she wandered into the water or decided to take a swim and died.....

[2NJSons_Mom]

That former judge Wedzinga has published today a follow up in his investigation in this unsolved case.


 http://www.raadsheer-wedzinga.nl/

I tried to copy this to put through a translator but couldn't.  Only the names mentioned were identifiable to me.  Thanks, though, for posting it....maybe someone else can get it translated.

[SunnyinTX]

They just said on HLN that results COULD be as EARLY as today.
They know already, I'm sure of it.

I agree and if it were not Natalee I think they would be screaming it to the world by now. JMO

[KatzHome]

Hi Sunny, Hi everyone!

I agree with you, Sunny ~ I believe that Natalee is fully alive ~ that she has now moved on to eternity ~ that she is happy and and at peace and with God ~ and that she prays for her family and friends and all of us to be at peace too.

And I too am waiting for news in this new development...

The psychic may bat 1000 as far as what happened to Natalee or where her body may be. I agree with you, Lisa in MD, the psychic stuff is an individual opinion as to how much weight anybody gives it, and I have no problem at all with anybody's choices in that regard or that someone shares it here on the thread.

I just feel compelled to say this, based on my own opinions. At the point that psychics begin saying anything troubling about Natalee's spirit, I'm going to voice my opinion and belief.

Natalee's spirit is at total peace and Natalee is home. We are the ones that aren't. I believe that Natalee's life goes on and that Natalee is more alive than she was when she was here and that she knows pure joy in ways we can only imagine. I believe that when this earth had to let go of her hand, it was gently grasped by God's and He will never let go.

On occasion, Natalee's family reads here and I just couldn't let the suggestion that Natalee is anything less than whole, happy, and at peace, go unchallenged. My opinion certainly isn't intended to offend the psychic or you, Lisa in MD. I just had to say it.  

CBB thank you so much for putting this into words. I know what you say is true but doubt I could articulated this as well as you have. I believe that Natalee prays for us, prays that we find peace.....

Corrected spelling of Natalee's name.

[KCJackie]

Natalee's Candles

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5700.0

Thanks to the faithful.

  BUMP 

[dejasade]

They just said on HLN that results COULD be as EARLY as today.
They know already, I'm sure of it.

I agree and if it were not Natalee I think they would be screaming it to the world by now. JMO

--plus they need to inform family first.....

Dont you think if this was a case in the US that we would have had a presser by now???

[BUCKSHOT]

Admitting it is Natalee doesn'nt mean they are admitting to lying.  Shoot the could say she jumped in the ocean on her own.
Have to go be back later

yep, one of the beast's stories was he left her on the beach and she was drunk....so she wandered into the water or decided to take a swim and died.....

Dompig, Jacobs, and VDStraaten will hold a press conference.
They will announce that NH was drunk and decided to take a swim.
Before doing so, she removed her jawbone and left it on the beach.
Then, she swam down and got herself trapped in a crab cage.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Natalee's Candles

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5700.0

Thanks to the faithful.

  BUMP 

Thank you, KCJackie.   

[crazybabyborg]

They already know if it's Natalee, and by now they must know we know that they know. Dr, Baden said they already know.

ANNOUNCE IT ALREADY!!! 

I'm glad that Americans found the jaw. If they try to replace it with another, maybe it would be detectable. Could they replace the tooth?

Oh, Lord............ I just have zero trust in any of them. I want Beth to have this so badly! They can claim anything they want right now, but please let the truth about whose jaw this is come out!

SURELY they wouldn't wait until Thansgiving.............. would they?

[SunnyinTX]

Hi Sunny, Hi everyone!

I agree with you, Sunny ~ I believe that Natalee is fully alive ~ that she has now moved on to eternity ~ that she is happy and and at peace and with God ~ and that she prays for her family and friends and all of us to be at peace too.

And I too am waiting for news in this new development...

The psychic may bat 1000 as far as what happened to Natalee or where her body may be. I agree with you, Lisa in MD, the psychic stuff is an individual opinion as to how much weight anybody gives it, and I have no problem at all with anybody's choices in that regard or that someone shares it here on the thread.

I just feel compelled to say this, based on my own opinions. At the point that psychics begin saying anything troubling about Natalee's spirit, I'm going to voice my opinion and belief.

Natalee's spirit is at total peace and Natalee is home. We are the ones that aren't. I believe that Natalee's life goes on and that Natalee is more alive than she was when she was here and that she knows pure joy in ways we can only imagine. I believe that when this earth had to let go of her hand, it was gently grasped by God's and He will never let go.

On occasion, Natalee's family reads here and I just couldn't let the suggestion that Natalee is anything less than whole, happy, and at peace, go unchallenged. My opinion certainly isn't intended to offend the psychic or you, Lisa in MD. I just had to say it.  

CBB thank you so much for putting this into words. I know what you say is true but doubt I could articulated this as well as you have. I believe that Natalee prays for us, prays that we find peace.....

Corrected spelling of Natalee's name.

hi Katz...good to see you.

[crazybabyborg]

Admitting it is Natalee doesn'nt mean they are admitting to lying.  Shoot the could say she jumped in the ocean on her own.
Have to go be back later

yep, one of the beast's stories was he left her on the beach and she was drunk....so she wandered into the water or decided to take a swim and died.....

Dompig, Jacobs, and VDStraaten will hold a press conference.
They will announce that NH was drunk and decided to take a swim.
Before doing so, she removed her jawbone and left it on the beach.
Then, she swam down and got herself trapped in a crab cage.

 

I'll take that explanation until Beth has possesion of that jaw with proof it's Natalee's.

[SunnyinTX]

They already know if it's Natalee, and by now they must know we know that they know. Dr, Baden said they already know.

ANNOUNCE IT ALREADY!!! 

I'm glad that Americans found the jaw. If they try to replace it with another, maybe it would be detectable. Could they replace the tooth?

Oh, Lord............ I just have zero trust in any of them. I want Beth to have this so badly! They can claim anything they want right now, but please let the truth about whose jaw this is come out!

SURELY they wouldn't wait until Thansgiving.............. would they?

CBB  don't put anything past them...but if they have allowed the FBI in then I think it must be Natalee (I am trying to think positively).....I don't trust anyone from Aruba and we really don't know what was taken to the Netherland's...so I am really trying to not get excited. 

[Monkey with Class]

Admitting it is Natalee doesn'nt mean they are admitting to lying.  Shoot the could say she jumped in the ocean on her own.
Have to go be back later

yep, one of the beast's stories was he left her on the beach and she was drunk....so she wandered into the water or decided to take a swim and died.....

Dompig, Jacobs, and VDStraaten will hold a press conference.
They will announce that NH was drunk and decided to take a swim.
Before doing so, she removed her jawbone and left it on the beach.
Then, she swam down and got herself trapped in a crab cage.

Would love to know if the tests will show how long the jaw bone have been in the salt water.  And whether this was Aruba's plan to get back on the good side after all the cover up.  I can see it now.  They think this will provide closure to the family and so on.   I do not believe anything that exits Aruba anymore.  Was it placed in water last week or last month? 

[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_81201.php

Google translation:

"Jawbone of a young woman '

November 19, 2010, 12:20 (GMT -04:00)

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ORANGE CITY - The piece of bone that last week was found Friday by American tourists on the beach near the Phoenix Hotel, is a young woman. U.S. media say at least that rely on statements made by Chief Peter Blanken. He is currently in the Netherlands this morning and was unavailable for comment.

The Public Prosecutor (OM) has not been here wants to comment on the case and said that it awaits the outcome of the Dutch Forensic Institute (NFI). Whites or indeed against the U.S. media has said that it was a jaw bone of a young woman goes, could Advocate General Taco Stein morning "confirm nor deny." "I have not spoken to him and do not know what he did or did not say. Our position remains that we await the outcome of NFI, "said Stein at Daily Herald.

When the examination of the Forensic Institute is completed, is not yet known. The Advocate-General to report that we know today, at least no more rash comes. "We probably know more next week." Stein says that the PPS on the basis of the results will "consider" to what the media is publicized and that any survivors may need to be informed. "You can imagine that the Holloway family is currently very difficult." What impact a positive identification would have to investigate the matter surrounding Natalee Holloway, as Stein did not anticipate. But now he says there is looked for on the spot where the jaw bone has washed ashore. This research has yielded nothing, says Stein.

Moreover, it is still not sure if there is sufficient DNA from bone to pick for positive identification. "It's wait and see what the experts say, but the bone has been located in seawater." The DNA material of the jaw bone, compared with the DNA profiles of the parents of Natalee. Similarly, Natalee dental information from the United States to the Netherlands were sent for comparison. The U.S. teen vanished without a trace in 2005 after a night out at Carlos and Charlies. Joran van der Sloot was the last person with whom she has seen. Joran is now in custody in the Castro Castro prison in Peru. He is accused of the murder of Peruvian student Stephany Flores in May this year.