Caylee Marie Anthony #175 11/29/10 - 12/20/10

[MuffyBee]

I like this from the ADMIN of the Missing Kyron Horman facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/notes/missing-kyron-horman/mkh-statistics-and-a-message-from-admin-lori/129447280426038

ATTENTION MKH MEMBERS, I would like to share a little bit of wisdom with you. I've learned this information for myself the "hard way." Please allow yourselves the opportunity to "Learn From My Fail"

As you probably know, people reach emotional maturity at different rates and some people never really get there. When you read a post that is insulting or rude to you or another member, try to remember that what you're seeing is someone throwing out evidence of their own emotional immaturity. (That's right, it's there for everyone to see...quite embarrassing, actually. You should be blushing.)

It's tough to do sometimes, but try to reassure yourself that if you don't take the bait (if you don't respond), you are displaying your own emotional maturity. You'll be happier for it and so will those around you. Please remember that you can't "win" these online arguments. You have two choices: You can respond with an equally childish response or you can "take the high road" and turn your focus to those members who are displaying their own emotional maturity by not engaging in online pettiness.

As I said, it's tough to do...sometimes REALLY, REALLY tough, but the more often you do it, the easier it gets.

I confess, honestly, that I am not always able to the right choice when someone upsets me. I make mistakes, like we all do, but I keep trying.

Remember, It's not a good idea to wrestle with a pig in the mud, the pig likes it and you'll both get dirty.

Consider this a public service announcement from admin Lori.

[SunnyinTX]

Hearing 11/29/10
Part One: http://www.wftv.com/video/25949344/index.html

Part Two: http://www.wftv.com/video/25949991/index.html

Again trim....THANKS

OK I gotta ask this...when did we become so concerned about sinsin's BOOBS???  I read from the last thread through to here and the most talked about topic was sinsin's BOOBS......surely that wasn't the most important item in the hearing???  I am not knocking anyone....but go back and read if you think I am kidding!!   

Wow, you seem to miss quite a few of the hearings but you're right, we've got it covered collectively, happy catching up!   As far as boobs go, if you have read back as you say you'll notice that the entire hearing was discussed.

WOW as usual you have no idea what you are talking about.  No, not IF I read, as I stated I did......I said I read and you have no reason or right to question it.

And you have NO right to attack any member on this board WHATSOEVER.   The archives will speak for themselves as to what you personally have stated you missed in whole or in part over the course of time & stating that "I am not knocking anyone" and yet feeling compeled to be the board police as to what you feel should or should not be focused on is shielding the fact that you were calling people out for their comments, of which they have a right to as much as you.   If people want to comment on ANY and ALL of what they observe during a proceeding including one's appearance, so be it, its their right to express it without condemnation.

capps speaking the truth is not attacking.....give it a rest...again you do not know what you are talking about....give it a rest.

[Ono]

Hearing 11/29/10
Part One: http://www.wftv.com/video/25949344/index.html

Part Two: http://www.wftv.com/video/25949991/index.html

Again trim....THANKS

OK I gotta ask this...when did we become so concerned about sinsin's BOOBS???  I read from the last thread through to here and the most talked about topic was sinsin's BOOBS......surely that wasn't the most important item in the hearing???  I am not knocking anyone....but go back and read if you think I am kidding!!   

They kinda jumped out at us ... sorta skeery & largely unexpected!!   

[SunnyinTX]

11/29/10
Jose Baez after Hearing. http://www.wftv.com/video/25950560/index.html
Bill Sheaffer  http://www.wftv.com/video/25950569/index.html

JB is ready to divulge what he says the state paid experts...but when asked what he pays..it's confidential????  BOZO logic!!

[Cappuccino]

Hearing 11/29/10
Part One: http://www.wftv.com/video/25949344/index.html

Part Two: http://www.wftv.com/video/25949991/index.html

Again trim....THANKS

OK I gotta ask this...when did we become so concerned about sinsin's BOOBS???  I read from the last thread through to here and the most talked about topic was sinsin's BOOBS......surely that wasn't the most important item in the hearing???  I am not knocking anyone....but go back and read if you think I am kidding!!   

Wow, you seem to miss quite a few of the hearings but you're right, we've got it covered collectively, happy catching up!   As far as boobs go, if you have read back as you say you'll notice that the entire hearing was discussed.

WOW as usual you have no idea what you are talking about.  No, not IF I read, as I stated I did......I said I read and you have no reason or right to question it.

And you have NO right to attack any member on this board WHATSOEVER.   The archives will speak for themselves as to what you personally have stated you missed in whole or in part over the course of time & stating that "I am not knocking anyone" and yet feeling compeled to be the board police as to what you feel should or should not be focused on is shielding the fact that you were calling people out for their comments, of which they have a right to as much as you.   If people want to comment on ANY and ALL of what they observe during a proceeding including one's appearance, so be it, its their right to express it without condemnation.

capps speaking the truth is not attacking.....give it a rest...again you do not know what you are talking about....give it a rest.

Says you?   Dont worry my comment was all I needed to say but your ridiculous insult speaks volumes...enough said

[MuffyBee]

Cappuccino, you know very well where the Report to Moderator button is.  There is absolutely no reason to "have felt compelled to be the board police".   You aren't admin nor are you a moderator here last time I looked and you insult the ones here that are by your comment.

[MuffyBee]

Sunny, I realize you care a lot about Caylee and the trial, but so do many others.  Yes, beewbs were talked about.  If you want more discussion about the case, maybe next time you should start the discussion with something other than criticism.  You can attract more bees with honey than vinegar.

[SunnyinTX]

Hearing 11/29/10
Part One: http://www.wftv.com/video/25949344/index.html

Part Two: http://www.wftv.com/video/25949991/index.html

Again trim....THANKS

OK I gotta ask this...when did we become so concerned about sinsin's BOOBS???  I read from the last thread through to here and the most talked about topic was sinsin's BOOBS......surely that wasn't the most important item in the hearing???  I am not knocking anyone....but go back and read if you think I am kidding!!   

They kinda jumped out at us ... sorta skeery & largely unexpected!!   

  you are so bad

[SunnyinTX]

Sunny, I realize you care a lot about Caylee and the trial, but so do many others.  Yes, beewbs were talked about.  If you want more discussion about the case, maybe next time you should start the discussion with something other than criticism.  You can attract more bees with honey than vinegar.

Muffy, I did not mean my statement to be a criticism, just an observation...

[MuffyBee]

Okay Sunny.  I didn't take it as a criticism when I saw your post, but I think another may have taken it differently. I think we're actually all on the same page, and that's wanting justice for Caylee. 

[Ono]

I still cannot understand why Baez comes to court seemingly so unprepared and so bewildered ... it's very distracting and I wonder what Ms. Finnell thinks, as she seems professional and all business.

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/november/177891/Casey-Anthonys-defense-to-hand-over-notes-and-video
Casey Anthony's defense to hand over notes and video
By Jacqueline Fell, Reporter
Last Updated: Monday, November 29, 2010 5:04 PM
ORLANDO --

Casey Anthony's lawyers are doing all they can to keep its defense strategy under wraps.

In court Monday, Chief Judge Belvin Perry ruled the defense won't have to tell the state anything and everything about its expert witnesses.

Out of six requests made by the state looking for more information about the defense's expert witnesses, the judge granted two.

By this time next week, the defense will have to hand over notes photos and video from when the experts were in town examining evidence.

“We need some type of information that will help us know who we need to depose, how long and what subject," said Chief Assistant State Attorney Jeff Ashton.

That's information any lawyer needs to know before heading to trial.

For the state, who's seeking to take Anthony's life, it's information they said they need to know now.

However, Perry said they can find most of the information out when they depose the defense's expert witnesses later on.

The defense has one week to give the state any and all notes, videos and photos its experts took while reviewing evidence.

Because Anthony doesn't have any money to fund her defense, taxpayers are picking up the bill. But that puts restraints on how much experts can be paid.

The defense said some of its experts are working for pennies, and points out the state is paying top dollar for some of its experts.

“There's nowhere near an equal playing field,” said Jose Baez, Anthony’s attorney.

The defense isn't asking its experts to write reports about their findings and said it’s to save money.

But Will Jay, a legal analyst, said it’s to keep their strategy come may a secret.

"I think it's a tactical move,” Jay said. “To not getting their experts pinned into a report to be examined on that report. As defense attorneys, they're going to do is tear the state experts up as best they can by their reports."

The defense has one week to give the state the information on its experts and the state will have until the end of February to depose them.

The state wanted the defense to turn over any information about the experts including contracts, receipts and info on travel, meals and entertainment expenses.

In court Monday, Baez said there's no wining and dining going on.

[Sassycat]

Okay Sunny.  I didn't take it as a criticism when I saw your post, but I think another may have taken it differently. I think we're actually all on the same page, and that's wanting justice for Caylee. 

Amen.  I didn't take it as criticism either, but must admit that I didn't care too much about the earlier "personal shopper" comment.   just sayin.

Justice for Caylee!

[klaasend]

I just received this from BLINK regarding the defense calling people who helped search for Caylee:

Under the current order, and under the monitoring of the special magistrate, calls to TES searchers by the Defense Counsel for Casey Anthony are/were within the bounds of the order.

It is up to the TES member whether or not they choose to speak to the contact, they are under no obligation to, regardless of their search area.

The time allotted to the defense is up for these calls, so there should be very few, if any going forward, under the current order.

That said, if at any time someone were to feel they were mistreated during the call or questions asked were considered inappropriate, please let me know about it immediately, via Klaasend.

B

[klaasend]

FWIW - the "Report to Moderator" function doesn't work but that doesn't mean we need help.  Muffy is correct on both accounts.

[Terri]

The thing I notice all the time is how KC always picks at her clothes.
It is constant.
She is always pulling, tugging, tucking and adjusting.
I notice it in every single video image of her.
It drives me nuts.
Tol

That and the constant hand rubbing.  I said before, it is like Lady McBeth....cannot get the blood off.

Terri

[Cappuccino]

The thing I notice all the time is how KC always picks at her clothes.
It is constant.
She is always pulling, tugging, tucking and adjusting.
I notice it in every single video image of her.
It drives me nuts.
Tol

That and the constant hand rubbing.  I said before, it is like Lady McBeth....cannot get the blood off.

Terri

Beyond compulsive & totally agree

[Babybear]

Hi Monks---

Casey has always seemed to be grooming herself constantly.  I remember on the day she was last arrested and she was being questioned, you could see on the video that she was constantly grooming herself, even when the questioner left the room.  Since she's been in the slammer, she seems to wear blouses which aren't quite large enough for her.  I know she has to wear what Cindy sends and I wonder if Cindy does this purposely.  I thought Casey looked healthy.  I don't know how you can maintain yourself that well in jail.  She must get some time to exercize outside because she doesn't look pale.   Personally, I think she enjoys being in jail.  She has attained what she always wanted.  She doesn't have to do anything--no job, no cooking, no cleaning.  She has time to devote to herself 100%.  And she doesn't have to deal with Cindy.

I, too, would like to know how much Baez has paid his so-called experts.  He went through a lot of money before Casey went on the dole.  It would be interesting to see an accounting of it.  When he gave the figures to Judge Strickland, I thought the judge was hasty in accepting them without having a CPA go over it.  I do know that Baez has become noticeably more well groomed and has custom made suits--maybe he has a personal shopper?  I have a personal shopper--Me!

Sunny, I'm sorry, I have to comment.  Those two puppies look like two oranges in tube socks.  The devil made me do it. (Do we have an embarrassed monkey?)

[Cappuccino]

I just received this from BLINK regarding the defense calling people who helped search for Caylee:

Under the current order, and under the monitoring of the special magistrate, calls to TES searchers by the Defense Counsel for Casey Anthony are/were within the bounds of the order.

It is up to the TES member whether or not they choose to speak to the contact, they are under no obligation to, regardless of their search area.

The time allotted to the defense is up for these calls, so there should be very few, if any going forward, under the current order.

That said, if at any time someone were to feel they were mistreated during the call or questions asked were considered inappropriate, please let me know about it immediately, via Klaasend.

B

The impact of these invasive calls knowing darn well they are not only attempting to raise reasonable doubt but looking for anyone else to become a suspect is going to be felt well beyond this case.   People shouldnt have to feel apprehensive about helping in a search without getting their privacy invaded unmercifully and/or under fear that they will become a suspect in a crime.    We've already seen examples of Bozo's PI being surly & this team's less than respectable conduct.  Funny thing about people with a hidden agenda, they usually get snagged....so here's to waiting for the day they finally get called out on it HARD.

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.wesh.com/r/25951506/detail.html
New Witnesses May Indicate Casey Didn't Dump Body
List Of Witnesses To Be Turned Over This Week

POSTED: 4:56 pm EST November 29, 2010
UPDATED: 6:21 pm EST November 29, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's defense team said on Monday it has more than a dozen new witnesses that support the claim Anthony did not place her daughter's remains in the woods.

Defense attorneys said they have 15 to 20 people who searched the exact area where Caylee Anthony's remains were found but found no body.

In the past, Texas EquuSearch volunteers have given sworn statements saying that the area in question was under water and there was no way to figure out what was there.
Defense attorney Cheney Mason said the names of the witnesses will be given to Judge Belvin Perry on Friday.

For the first time on Monday, Anthony defense attorney Jose Baez acknowledged his team may put off a motion to introduce evidence that the man who found the remains, Roy Kronk, should have been considered a suspect in the case.

Perry warned Baez that he should make up his mind about the motion soon.

The judge also turned down the prosecution's request for the defense to turn over potentially sensitive records of financial arrangements with defense experts.

"If they want to know what each person is being paid, they can simply ask them," Baez said.
Perry said he will require the defense to turn over notes taken by the experts along with any photos and video they've taken. The defense will also be required to give prosecutors information about what field each of the experts will be addressing.

Anthony's mother, Cindy Anthony, was at Monday's hearing but was unable to address her daughter.