Zahra Clare Baker #8 11/15/10 - 11/27/10

[sassifrass]

Oops! Sorry, meant permanent, NOT permanently.

[no rose colored glasses]

I'm sorry if I missed this, I was under the assumption Zahra's leg was found, was it the gel liner that was found and not the leg?

This is what the motion says:
http://www.wsoctv.com/download/2010/1116/25803730.pdf

Thank-you, somehow in my head I thought it was the entire leg. I don't even want to know where that was thrown or buried 

[Monkey King]

I, by NO MEANS am defending anyone, Ma Baker has her own sins she has to live with, but as a mother, and grandmother, is only listening to what AB is telling her.

I wonder why AB isn't sporting his "Vengeance" skull shirt....?

Does anyone know where this interview was held?

[Northern Rose]

I, by NO MEANS am defending anyone, Ma Baker has her own sins she has to live with, but as a mother, and grandmother, is only listening to what AB is telling her.

I wonder why AB isn't sporting his "Vengeance" skull shirt....?

Does anyone know where this interview was held?

In his lawyers office where they went to go watch the memorial.  Seems his apt has no TV.

[sassifrass]

I'm sorry if I missed this, I was under the assumption Zahra's leg was found, was it the gel liner that was found and not the leg?

This is what the motion says:
http://www.wsoctv.com/download/2010/1116/25803730.pdf

Thank-you, somehow in my head I thought it was the entire leg. I don't even want to know where that was thrown or buried 

I thought so too NRCG and I agree with you. Where is the leg? 

[Northern Rose]

I'm sorry if I missed this, I was under the assumption Zahra's leg was found, was it the gel liner that was found and not the leg?

This is what the motion says:
http://www.wsoctv.com/download/2010/1116/25803730.pdf

Thank-you, somehow in my head I thought it was the entire leg. I don't even want to know where that was thrown or buried 

The motion only state the gel liner and I am wondering if the actual prosthetic is what Ms Dubs and her PI "located and collected" during the evening hours of Oct 22 and early morning hours of Oct 23 (d. in the motion). LE has stated they have the prosthetic which they verified via the chip but never really said how they got it as we all assumed they found it.  The liner was found Oct 25.  I am going to have to go through old articles to see when LE stated they found the prosthetic/liner.

[Monkey King]

I'm sorry if I missed this, I was under the assumption Zahra's leg was found, was it the gel liner that was found and not the leg?

This is what the motion says:
http://www.wsoctv.com/download/2010/1116/25803730.pdf

Thank-you, somehow in my head I thought it was the entire leg. I don't even want to know where that was thrown or buried 

I thought so too NRCG and I agree with you. Where is the leg? 

I thought it was the prosthetic leg as well at the Christie Road site in addition to a bone- which has been stated to be consistant with a childs arm, and other times as a leg.

[Tolerance]

Maybe the gel liner was the evidence produced by EB and atty..............and then during the search LE found the prosthesis?
That is kinda what I took from my reading, but it is MO, only.
I would think the identifying markings would be hard to put on a gel liner?  and more able to be 'engraved' on the composite part of the prosthetic?
Tol

[Wyks]

GRIM REAPER on the mantel. I also noticed Adam's ridiculous T Shirt, worn on camera for a brief interview.
Drug paraphenalia found in both vehicles.

How deep into Goth and Satanism are these 2 goofs anyway ?

Zahra's death gives me a headache, and in many ways,  I wonder, could it have been a Satanic sacrifice or ritual ?

There is something very evil here. Something very wrong.

It's possible, LEP.   

In September was the 'Autumnal Equinox' for satanists.  Blood rituals that involve dismemberment of a corpse.  That's about all I'm gonna say on that. 

Sigh.

[no rose colored glasses]

That may be it, the leg was taken to the police by the lawyer.  The satanic ritual, while I know this happens, and I have no doubt of this happening, I just can't go there. I pray this didn't happen.

[Tolerance]

wyks,
I have been missing you.
So good to see you.
Tol

[Wyks]

Hi Wyks, I agree about ripping down that evil house  if not I'm afraid it may turn into a place that people go just to see the house and talk about what happened there 

Hi No Rose!  I agree! 

[Monkey King]

GRIM REAPER on the mantel. I also noticed Adam's ridiculous T Shirt, worn on camera for a brief interview.
Drug paraphenalia found in both vehicles.

How deep into Goth and Satanism are these 2 goofs anyway ?

Zahra's death gives me a headache, and in many ways,  I wonder, could it have been a Satanic sacrifice or ritual ?

There is something very evil here. Something very wrong.

It's possible, LEP.   

In September was the 'Autumnal Equinox' for satanists.  Blood rituals that involve dismemberment of a corpse.  That's about all I'm gonna say on that. 

Sigh.

Wyks- where can we read more on this?

[Wyks]

Signs hang from the stair railing of the Baker house on 21st Avenue,NW, calling for justice for Zahra Baker on November 15,2010.

http://www2.hickoryrecord.com/news/2010/nov/15/10/bond-reduction-filing-baker-shows-her-help-case-ar-540284/

Thanks for posting this, Northern Rose. 

Seems to me, that this house of horrors needs to be demolished, and the property turned into a permanent memorial for Zahra.  The signs need to remain.  Perhaps the community can be involved in destroying that house.  Might help them feel vindicated in some measure for Zahra. 

DSS needs to be brought up on charges as well.  IMO.  If I lived in that area, I'd never EVER let that dept forget the mistakes they've made, and how horribly they failed this precious little one.  Again, IMO. 

Wyks! 


The owner did that when Miranda and Amanda were murdered by Ward Weaver and they put up a permanently memorial for them there.

Hey Sassi! 

Yes, and a good decision by that owner.  I do believe that memorials 'ought to be' placed in the same location like that, not halfway across town. 

When the bank killings took place in the town I lived in at the time, here in Nebraska, the bank was torn down and turned into a memorial.  It just seems fitting to me.  It was comforting for our community, in more ways than one. 

[no rose colored glasses]

Hi Wyks, I agree about ripping down that evil house  if not I'm afraid it may turn into a place that people go just to see the house and talk about what happened there 

Hi No Rose!  I agree! 

The outrage over what happened to this little child is overwhelming, and if this was also some kind of ritual, I can't even picture the outrage that will happen, it just sends chills up me.

[Wyks]

wyks,
I have been missing you.
So good to see you.
Tol

Aww Tol..    I've been missing you too!  So glad to read your posts and those of my other monkey friends!  Good to see you again! 

Sometimes in these cases we just gotta step back and take a bit of a break, esp when it hits us emotionally hard, as this case has done for me.  Poor lil Zahra.  My heart goes out to her mum. 

[luvmyboys]

here are most of the pics that i took last night....if you guys want..i can just upload only what i took of the yard and house cause i don't think i got them all on here..but for the most part i got them all...i hope this works so here is the link .......http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb150/hopek_2007/zahra%20bday%20and%20memorial/

[Wyks]

GRIM REAPER on the mantel. I also noticed Adam's ridiculous T Shirt, worn on camera for a brief interview.
Drug paraphenalia found in both vehicles.

How deep into Goth and Satanism are these 2 goofs anyway ?

Zahra's death gives me a headache, and in many ways,  I wonder, could it have been a Satanic sacrifice or ritual ?

There is something very evil here. Something very wrong.

It's possible, LEP.   

In September was the 'Autumnal Equinox' for satanists.  Blood rituals that involve dismemberment of a corpse.  That's about all I'm gonna say on that. 

Sigh.

Wyks- where can we read more on this?

Here's one link, you can google 'satanic calendar' for other sites.  When looking at these calendars tho, please protect your senses!  Click outta there if/when it gets to be too hard-hitting emotionally.  Remember too that satanists 'celebrate' these things for several days before/after, not just on the exact days specified. 

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/satanic_calendar.htm

Do we know for sure that this is what happened in this case?  Ermmm no.  And yet.. it's possible, the dates seem to fit. 

[seahorse]

GRIM REAPER on the mantel. I also noticed Adam's ridiculous T Shirt, worn on camera for a brief interview.
Drug paraphenalia found in both vehicles.

How deep into Goth and Satanism are these 2 goofs anyway ?

Zahra's death gives me a headache, and in many ways,  I wonder, could it have been a Satanic sacrifice or ritual ?

There is something very evil here. Something very wrong.

It's possible, LEP.   

In September was the 'Autumnal Equinox' for satanists.  Blood rituals that involve dismemberment of a corpse.  That's about all I'm gonna say on that. 

Sigh.

Wyks- where can we read more on this?

Hi Monkey's,

have been a Satanic sacrifice or ritual ?  Mrs. B. wanted to be a Vampire. She called the Zahra "the dark child" on her web page, as reported. This poor baby: who lost her mother at a year old, lost her leg at five years old and when did Zayra lose her hearing? 

All Zayra's patience and suffering, and the Vampire-woman, didn't think, that was enough agony for little Zayra? 

  for Zayra!

[Tolerance]

Well, I just did a bunch of reading on gel liners and prosthetics for above the knee amputation.

Nothing, really, to quote but I do want to say this:

If Zahra was not seeing an orthopedic doc or a prosthetic specialist regularly that, in and of itself, constitutes gross neglect and abuse, IMO.

There is no comparison between maintenance of a prosthetic leg and a prosthetic arm.  The prosthetic leg requires much more vigilance.

I have renewed abhorrence for the people responsible for Zahra's care.

Zarha, I am so sorry for all your pain and suffering.  I am glad you are with your heavenly family.  Amen.