Lively Case Discussion #585 2/25 - 3/2/2007

[2NJSons_Mom]

   Yes, and I wasn't watching reruns... (Jacque Cousteau, too)

[Cat]

Something stinks on this death.A person can take their mask off and surface safely,exhaling without a problem.Cat

[Mere]

Hi....was off looking at Snuba and forgot to put these Amigoe articles (from Leslie's morning newspapers) out for us to see...The first is in regard to gambling...the second is the TB information we discussed recently.....hope it will not be too long:

Massive dismissal at VIP.com
WILLEMSTAD – VIP.com that offers sports betting and internet gambling has dismissed 84 employees. VIP Management Services BV exists for ten years and is established in the Bon Bini Business Center at the Schottegatweg Oost. There are still 120 employees left, confirmed top executive Alistair Assheton.

The VIP-management has sent an internal e-mail to all her employees today, inviting them to a nine o’clock meeting. The employees were divided into two groups, and one group had to attend the meeting in the Hilton Hotel, and the other group had to go the meeting in the Floris Suite. The employees that went to the Hilton Hotel were told that they are still employed, while those that went to Floris Suite were dismissed.

They were told that they will get a redundancy of one week for each year of service, the remaining vacation days, and two weeks notice paid.

For all sorts of reasons, VIP.com has to downsize, said Assheton. One of the reasons for this is the new legislation that the US introduced against sports betting and internet gambling. It is almost no longer possible to pay via credit cards, money gram, or Western Union. Due to this, a great part of the business is lost.




The story was completely made up
No tbc in Aruba  

ORANJESTAD – Amigoe reported in his edition of last Saturday that tbc-infection was detected in a man that has been straying illegally for quite some time in Aruba already.  Amigoe got this article from Bon Dia.  Spokesperson of Horacio Oduber Hospital (HOH), Bob Harms indicated this morning that the complete story is a concoction.  

“None of our specialist knows anything about this.  Besides, the hospital has a responsibility to maintain.  When one of our lung specialists has a slight suspicion that a patient has open or active tbc, that person is quarantined in the hospital, and not somewhere else.  As a precaution, the patient will also receive treatment immediately.”

It takes a minimum of 8 days to diagnose tbc, because it takes a lab test to confirm this.    

That according to Bon Dia, the man was going to be deported, it also not true.  Rudolf Kelly, head of Instituto Alarma y Seguridad Aruba (IASA), says that his department doesn’t know anything about the deportation an illegal person with tbc.  Kelly says that entire story is a hoax.

[robots]

DOCTOR EVIL is a PIG  

[Mere]

Good morning robots...

[Kat_Gram]

Well I like the article about the gambling. So, the method of payment change to no credit cards works !
Dana has a show tonight.
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/radio/2007/02/26/tuesday-february-27th-2007-9-pm-et-special-guests-lafern-watkins-pixie-monroe-and-clint-van-zandt/

Don' t know who the first two guests are.

The TB thing, well I was more interested in the case in Ga, Dacula.
In the US and Canada TB has to be reported.

I cannot find the link to the book publisher that Joran used in the NL, but for some reason March seemed like the release date. I don't know why I can't find it because I did a pre review     in English. It seemed to disappear in short order. It was a long book, > 300 pages and I wondered if he used crayons with one or two words on each page.

[Mere]

Kat....thanks for all the food info yesterday...I am heading for Ireland in April....think I will lose weight while there....

[Kat_Gram]

Kat....thanks for all the food info yesterday...I am heading for Ireland in April....think I will lose weight while there....

Oh, you are so lucky... I am sure that Ireland has caught up with the cuisine of the rest of the world by now. They probably have poutine    
at every street corner.

[Mere]

Kat...it is the Irish breakfast that worries me....how do you say no to black pudding...?  

[Cat]

I think Irish cusine is good.I am going to Austria this summer.I know what to expect and it is no problem.earlier I forgot to include an excellant photo shop person,CBB.I hope you and John are getting better.I firgot Mrs Red. Spartecus CAT

[klaasend]

NEW FRONT PAGE POST:

TB or not TB: TB Story now Claimed to Be Made Up … Tourism at All Cost? … Big People Lie

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2007/02/27/tb-or-not-tb-tb-story-now-claimed-to-be-made-up-tourism-at-all-cost/

[justinsmama]

Diario:  American male tourist, aged 59, dies from "the bends" after scuba diving.

Yeah, that's what they want us to think.    Remember the man they said died of natural causes but autopsy conducted off island showed strangulation.  Probably this is an accurate account of what happened but Aruba requires verification because of past descrepancies.  

OK, Justin's, this is for you.  You will need it for a twelve hour day.

Thankee, Anna! Unfortunately, I could only hold up for 3-4 hours.    I feel terrible. My throat hurts even more with every cough and my temp is over 100 F.   This monkey is going to bed.

[Leslie]

Why are you dissing poutine?  Sure, it's a heart attack in a bowl, just don't eat it every day.  I believe Quebec is the birthplace of that culinary feast of french fries, gravy and cheese curds.  Every restaurant here sells it.  Combine that with a Montreal smoked meat sandwich and you got a meal.

[Kat_Gram]

Why are you dissing poutine?  Sure, it's a heart attack in a bowl, just don't eat it every day.  I believe Quebec is the birthplace of that culinary feast of french fries, gravy and cheese curds.  Every restaurant here sells it.  Combine that with a Montreal smoked meat sandwich and you got a meal.

I am not dissing Poutine.   Or am I ?   I have always found it to be an odd combo. I think it is the CURD word. Never did like those curdy lumps in the food. I considered myself an abused child when they made me eat cottage cheese and sour cream. La Belle Province is the birthplace of poutine. Last week, there was a FP in the National Post about poutine going to Manhatten.
I haven't had a Montreal smoked meat samich in ages !  Oh those are good ! !

[Kat_Gram]

There were " food war of wills " in my house.
I won at breakfast because I had to leave to go to school.
Supper, well,  I remember sitting at the table until bedtime and the stuff on the plate just got worse lookin' .
To this day I have a hard time looking at a " shaky " undercooked  fried egg.

[Kat_Gram]

I know that I do have some serious food issues.
So does my SIL. Same cause.
Early childhood.
No one forces the little kiddo to eat. But parents in the olden days did ???

[BTgirl]

I know that I do have some serious food issues.
So does my SIL. Same cause.
Early childhood.
No one forces the little kiddo to eat. But parents in the olden days did ???

Kat_Gram

I hope no one forces any little kiddos to eat these days. I was always a very small child who didn't have a large appetite. In elementary school the teachers used to make me sit in the cafeteria until I finished lunch, but I couldn't hold all that food, so I spent a long time sitting in the cafeteria.   It finally took my pediatrician ordering them to leave me alone before they stopped trying to force feed me. Now we know that forcing children to ignore their body's signals that it's full is one of the causes of obesity.

[Mere]

I know that I do have some serious food issues.
So does my SIL. Same cause.
Early childhood.
No one forces the little kiddo to eat. But parents in the olden days did ???

Kat...have a sister that used to...and still does....look like a scavenger at meal times....she saved us all....when Mom went to make coffee, she ate everything we did not want....Dad never told....!  She is the skinny bird of our group....

[dkpen]

Hi everyone!

Klaas...you got e-mail. Please look at it and tell me what you think.



On the TB...Aruba is so full of bs. Another lie ofcourse to cover-up to protect what little tourism they have left. Talk about a possible pandemic.

And how could it really be traced back to Aruba with people going in and out of there from South America, Central America and the few tourist from all over the world. Including the cruise lines who port and stop over. This is truly sad when they feel they have to cover-up to protect tourism. Like the dengue fever, malaria and other outbreaks they have there.

I think the UN needs to be on high alert on the Health issues that can be spread out of Aruba. Seriously!

Why would a news paper make something up like that. Bon Dia could be sued. I highly doubt they would risk their company and reputation over reporting TB in their area. Alarming the public and their readers is a responsiblity they owe to everyone. Same goes with Amigo. I am sure once they heard of it from Bon Dia they did their own investigation and learned of it as well. Now Aruba is back tracking and covering up to save tourism. Unbelievable!

[Sam]

Hi Monkeys,

You all are making me hungry and I can't even figure out what Poutine is.

As to scuba- Our dil got our son scuba lessons a few years ago. He also does deep sea. It really worries me. I always worry about the bends.

She also got him flying lessons. Of course I worried about that also. They try to out do each other on there presents. LOL