Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #852 11/20/10 - 11/23/10

[Scandi]

I'm so happy I got a Thanksgiving turkey wih a bit of 'snap' in his young bones.      LOL  Thanks CBB   

I was hoping there would be news today ;{    Thanks Tamikosmom for the snips from Beth's book.   Does she mention anything about the call Judd {?} answered in the middle of the night that was from Aruba?

xox

[texasmom]

Justice for Natalee...

and Stephany!  

[GabbyG]

Hi Monkeys! I am right here with you while we all wait together. I have always been here, just not always signed in. I pray for strength for Dave and Beth while they wait, and wonder if maybe they have already been told? But how wishful I am, hoping that Aruba would be decent enough to do that.

Love to you all, and thanks for fighting the good fight and never giving up. Sending Happy Thanksgiving wishes to everyone. I will be anxiously waiting for the news along with all of you.

[Magnolia]

Hi Monkeys! I am right here with you while we all wait together. I have always been here, just not always signed in. I pray for strength for Dave and Beth while they wait, and wonder if maybe they have already been told? But how wishful I am, hoping that Aruba would be decent enough to do that.

Love to you all, and thanks for fighting the good fight and never giving up. Sending Happy Thanksgiving wishes to everyone. I will be anxiously waiting for the news along with all of you.

So good to see you GabbyG.  We'll all wait together.

[San]

Good Morning Everyone.

We all fought together and we will all wait together.  We Monkeys are determined.

My dog woke me up too early now I can't sleep.  I can't do anything because others are sleeping and I will wake them up.  All three dogs started running around chasing each other and playing in the house 

[Lisa in MD]

Good Morning Everyone.

We all fought together and we will all wait together.  We Monkeys are determined.

My dog woke me up too early now I can't sleep.  I can't do anything because others are sleeping and I will wake them up.  All three dogs started running around chasing each other and playing in the house 

That’s so odd San the same thing happened to me this morning and now I can’t get back to sleep!

I have 4 miniature dachshunds (Romeo, Juliette and the Blues Brothers Jake and Elwood)

They are spoiled rotten! Especially ELWOOD!

What are your furchildren?

[San]

Good Morning Everyone.

We all fought together and we will all wait together.  We Monkeys are determined.

My dog woke me up too early now I can't sleep.  I can't do anything because others are sleeping and I will wake them up.  All three dogs started running around chasing each other and playing in the house 

That’s so odd San the same thing happened to me this morning and now I can’t get back to sleep!

I have 4 miniature dachshunds (Romeo, Juliette and the Blues Brothers Jake and Elwood)

They are spoiled rotten! Especially ELWOOD!

What are your furchildren?

I have one Pitbull and two Australian shepherds.

[Lisa in MD]

I'm Anxious, so Anxious but I'm going to try to go back to bed for a couple of hours. I wonder if Beth ever gets any sleep?  Okay now that thought made me wake up.  I've got to go back to bed or I will be a zombie all day.  I'll check back in a couple of hours. ~ Lisa

[GabbyG]

Good Morning Everyone.

We all fought together and we will all wait together.  We Monkeys are determined.

My dog woke me up too early now I can't sleep.  I can't do anything because others are sleeping and I will wake them up.  All three dogs started running around chasing each other and playing in the house 

San boy have I been there and done that!  Don't you just love it when you are trying to whisper to your dogs...shhhhh shhhhh quiet and they use their selective hearing and continue whatever they are doing? My grandson always spends Friday nights with me, it is our "date night", plus it is mom and dad's "date night". We have done this since he was 3, and he is 11 now. Often my much loved furbaby Emmy, my lab and house companion, will hear something outside, go to "her window" to check outside, and commence barking with my grandson sleeping in the hidabed in the living room....and there I am, adding to the racket by trying to whisper at her to hush, quiet, etc. etc., and she begins twirling, gets more excited, runs to her window again to show me why she is barking, and the whole process begins again...                 meanwhile my grandson wakes up long enough to ask me to make Emmy be quiet and go back to sleep. LOL

[Bearlyhere]

Sorry......... I need to modify that last post of mine. I'm not sure my opinions about the PR control disagrees with anybody elses. I need more coffee............ sorry!!! 


MAY THIS THREAD BE THE ONE THAT WITNESSES NATALEE COMING HOME!!!

Can you imagine how many cups of coffee are consumed on this forum!  Folgers and Maxwell should be paying you guys!

I'll drink to that

 

[sharon]

As we wait ....I always goes back and read  Remind myself of things I may have not thought about for awhile.

As Anna always says -- I know what I know -- and I know what I think I know    (yes Anna -- I'm LOVING this season of Burn Notice)


Sorry for the repost  but.....

This is an excerpt from the conclusion in Part 6 of the 6 part series In the Face of Evil - May 30, 2005 Parts 1 -5 lead up to the conclusion -- In My Opinion

I personally can not accept any theory that does not include an explanation of the triangulation of the cell phone pings or the corroboration of the cover up that is obvious in the statements. That is WHAT WE KNOW.


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=615.msg293755#msg293755

This has simply been the best plausible sequence of events we have been able to generate, based on the suspects' words in police reports and media interviews, along with witness and investigator's statements.

Here is a brief recap of what the suspects own actions and words have led us to believe.

* 10:00 am - 4 suspects meet at Bubali police station, and meet at the van der Sloot pool thereafter

* 3:00 pm - Paulus makes a visit to the bank, and has 1 hour missing before arriving home

* 5:00 pm - Paulus takes Joran to the Racquet club wtih the gym bag containing evidence, and Joran meets with Koen to make arrangements for the boat - and they do not play tennis.

* 6:00 pm - Paulus makes his second trip to the Racquet Club to retrieve Joran and the gym bag, they then retrieve Miss Holloway's remains.

* 7:25 pm - Joran calls Deepak, triangulation of the cell phone records shows the location near the boat launch

* 8:15 - 8:30 pm - Paulus at home on the computer researching drugs, Joran at the Wyndham casino.

* 10:30 pm - The van der Sloots are aware the Twitty's are en route to Aruba on a privately chartered jet.

* 11:30 pm - Joran, Guido, and Deepak are in discussion in Deepak’s car in a casino parking lot.

* 2:00 am - Deepak, Joran and Guido leave the casino for one hour, Deepak's car is seen at 2:30 am at the van der sloot home .

As we close this series, we point out that others close to the investigation have also arrived at the exact same conclusion.
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JOSSY MANSUR:

Joran had access to several boats, Mansur said, and could have used one of them to dispose of Natalee's body.

"Whatever happened to her, happened at Joran's apartment or at the beach to the north of the Marriott hotel," Mansur said. "The disposal of her body, we strongly believe, was masterminded by the father, who coached them by the pool at his home and drilled them in what they had to say and which story they had to cling to."

www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/forensics/natalee_holloway/11.html



DAVE HOLLOWAY:

I just can't understand that three kids, you know, if they were involved in foul play, could have disposed of Natalee in such a way that we couldn't find her. So that leads me to believe that possibly there's other people involved in the case.

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/17/ng.01.html


ART WOOD:

The dramatic new line of investigation revolves around the timeline of May 30, starting about 18 hours after Natalee vanished.

There are several unexplained missing hours during which authorities believe that her body was dumped at sea.

Former U.S. Secret Service agent Art Wood, who spent months on the island investigating the case, told The National Enquirer: "Joran told police that he played tennis with a friend during the evening hours. And the pal backed up his alibi.

"But when I investigated the Racquet Club I found that Joran had never played tennis there that night."

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/crime/63342


ART WOOD:

"The reason this case could still be solved is because there are so many people involved in Natalee's disappearance and in the disposal of her body. When somebody talks, they're going to all go down. This is like a house of cards."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10295536/

[sharon]

Excuse my manners

Good morning Monkeys. One day closer 



AVOID ARUBA AS IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT...IT DOES!!!

Justice for Natalee Holloway
Peace for her family and loved ones

[GabbyG]

Hi Monkeys! I am right here with you while we all wait together. I have always been here, just not always signed in. I pray for strength for Dave and Beth while they wait, and wonder if maybe they have already been told? But how wishful I am, hoping that Aruba would be decent enough to do that.

Love to you all, and thanks for fighting the good fight and never giving up. Sending Happy Thanksgiving wishes to everyone. I will be anxiously waiting for the news along with all of you.

So good to see you GabbyG.  We'll all wait together.

Thank you Magnolia, it's good to see you too! Yes, we Monkeys know how to wait don't we? We have the blessing of having each other for strength and companionship during these difficult times. How I wish we could share that with Dave and Beth, and help them during these times that must be so very hard and painful for them. I just can't seem to keep my mind from wandering there, thinking about what they must be going through yet again. My prayers are with them, as always.

[GabbyG]

Thinking about Beth and Dave made me remember a poem I wrote for them a couple of years ago. With this new possibility looming before us, I thought I would share it again while we wait.


In His Time

Even while I grieve, I know You are in charge...
I know You're the Boss of this show.
I know we are taught that we must wait on You
But have I the strength? I don't know...

I have tried to be patient, though waiting is hard...
I've tried to just leave it to You.
But the way things have gone just haven't been good...
And I constantly see evil anew.

But again I will do what I know You have asked...
And trust in Your power and Your love.
I will fall to my knees to join others in prayer
And pray for strength from above.

But wait! What was that? What do I hear?
Beautiful voices, whispers, and then...
A soft sweet voice clearly says "In His Time"
Like a promise to me, Heaven sent.

Then a glimpse of her face and her smile I see.
She reminds me of all we are taught.
That we must have faith, believe, and hold true…
Believing is never for naught.

Justice is His, and the righteous will win!
This is promised to those who believe...
So although I am tired, weary and worn
I will wait on You Lord, though I grieve.

I will pray in faith for Justice to come...
To be served rightly so, in Your time.
I will pray for patience as I try to hold on,
My prayer will be… "in Your time, not mine".

by GabbyG

[San]

Very nice Gabby.

[jen3560]

Sharon - thank you for that reminder.  And great to see you, my friend! 

[Blonde]

Remember this post

Jonathan45 at scrux (I promise to quit reading around...lol...):

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject:
The real update

On my desk lies a 'human' shin-bone in a box, a bone found in a pond not far from Montanja 19 by a friend during his visit to Aruba last month.
I don't know if if it's one of Natalees shin-bones, but it is a human bone.

To solve the missing of Natalee Holloway the ALE needs only a cadaver dog.

Today I will seal my lips too.

[San]

Hi Klaas 

[klaasend]

hi, no coffee yet

[MuffyBee]

hi, no coffee yet

Good morning Klaas    Hope you get some coffee soon.