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« Reply #220 on: November 21, 2010, 09:42:32 AM »

hi, no coffee yet

You must be going through withdrawal

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« Reply #221 on: November 21, 2010, 09:48:30 AM »

We already know this.....it is dated today, so here goes..

Holloway answers will come from Aruba

Last Update: 7:44 am  today

Birmingham, Al  (WIAT)  The mystery of Natalee Holloway began on Aruba more than five years ago.  It now looks like any announcement as to tests on a jawbone found on an Aruban beach will also come from the island.

The Dutch Forensic Institute has been testing the bone and the Holloway family has provided Natalee's dental records for comparison.  "I'm happy that it's human. And the initial finding is that it's from a young woman, so maybe we will be able to solve this case. I hope so. But we will wait to see what the findings are," Aruban prosecutor Peter Blanken told CNN.

The prosecutor said a forensic expert in Aruba made the initial determination. He cautioned that a final determination would be made by the Netherlands Forensic Institute in the Hague, but he did say the agency is "testing for a DNA match."

Blanken is back in Aruba.  The Forensic Institute said earlier this week that the announcement of the findings would be left to Aruban authorities.

The bone, which the Dutch-language paper de Telegraff reported was the lower half of the jaw with one molar still intact, was found by tourists last week on a beach in Aruba.

Mountain Brook teen Natalee Holloway disappeared on a graduation trip to Aruba in 2005. She was last seen leaving a club with Joran van der Sloot.  Although the young Dutchman was questioned several times by Aruban authorities he was never charged.  He is still considered the prime suspect in Natalee's disappearance.

The beach where the jawbone was found is near the location where van der Sloot has told various stories about Natalee's fate....stories he later retracted or denied.

Van der Sloot is currently in prison in Peru charged with the murder of Stephany Flores.  The body of the 21 year old student was found in van der Sloot's Lima hotel room.  Van der Sloot confessed to killing Flores after she found material relating to Natalee on his laptop.  In one of many macabre aspects of the case, Flores' body was found five years to the day of Natalee's disappearance.

Van der Sloot is appealing to get his murder confession thrown out of court claiming coercion and police misconduct.

He's also been indicted by a federal grand jury here in Birmingham charged with wire fraud and extortion.  Prosecutors claim in shook down the Holloway family for information on Natalee's fate but never delivered any information after taking their money.
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Holloway-answers-will-come-from-Aruba/PKHuMukCyUiNW2n-TP1xHQ.cspx
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« Reply #222 on: November 21, 2010, 10:34:04 AM »

Thinking about Beth and Dave made me remember a poem I wrote for them a couple of years ago. With this new possibility looming before us, I thought I would share it again while we wait.


In His Time

Even while I grieve, I know You are in charge...
I know You're the Boss of this show.
I know we are taught that we must wait on You
But have I the strength? I don't know...

I have tried to be patient, though waiting is hard...
I've tried to just leave it to You.
But the way things have gone just haven't been good...
And I constantly see evil anew.

But again I will do what I know You have asked...
And trust in Your power and Your love.
I will fall to my knees to join others in prayer
And pray for strength from above.

But wait! What was that? What do I hear?
Beautiful voices, whispers, and then...
A soft sweet voice clearly says "In His Time"
Like a promise to me, Heaven sent.

Then a glimpse of her face and her smile I see.
She reminds me of all we are taught.
That we must have faith, believe, and hold true…
Believing is never for naught.

Justice is His, and the righteous will win!
This is promised to those who believe...
So although I am tired, weary and worn
I will wait on You Lord, though I grieve.

I will pray in faith for Justice to come...
To be served rightly so, in Your time.
I will pray for patience as I try to hold on,
My prayer will be… "in Your time, not mine".

by GabbyG

Thank you GabbyG.

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« Reply #223 on: November 21, 2010, 10:35:52 AM »

Somebody go and listen to this interview at RU.  It is suppose to be Daniel and Kelly the
psycho psychics, but it sounds exactly like Steph Watts to me.


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Magnolia

They have similar "tones" but I think it's the psycho.  I am not sure why it's labeled an interview since "Lewis?" (on his birth certificate?) Daniel Young is just overtalking and not giving the person a chance to answer or think. I'm sure he will go on to say that "Lilly said" or I have "Lilly verify....".

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« Reply #224 on: November 21, 2010, 10:59:55 AM »

Remember this post

Jonathan45 at scrux (I promise to quit reading around...lol...):

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject:
The real update

On my desk lies a 'human' shin-bone in a box, a bone found in a pond not far from Montanja 19 by a friend during his visit to Aruba last month.
I don't know if if it's one of Natalees shin-bones, but it is a human bone.

To solve the missing of Natalee Holloway the ALE needs only a cadaver dog.

Today I will seal my lips too.


I remembered something, but maybe not this post.  I found a post here...there obviously was a question being answered, which I have not yet looked for.

@wreck

The 'shinbone' that was found near a pond, south of the VDSresidence, was aging-tested at the university. It was human bone but over 50years old. There were also [dog] bitemarks on it.

What would happen if Joran did a polygraph test ?

I can be a liar as well, because every child is confronted with this natural phenomenon from day one. We all had to copy the behaviour from those who surrounded us during many years. I call it social genetics behind the frontdoor.
A web of natural double binds who easily can turn into pathological ones.

The VDSfamily shows how those double binds make this case unsolved.





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« Reply #225 on: November 21, 2010, 11:06:34 AM »

Remember this post

Jonathan45 at scrux (I promise to quit reading around...lol...):

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject:
The real update

On my desk lies a 'human' shin-bone in a box, a bone found in a pond not far from Montanja 19 by a friend during his visit to Aruba last month.
I don't know if if it's one of Natalees shin-bones, but it is a human bone.

To solve the missing of Natalee Holloway the ALE needs only a cadaver dog.

Today I will seal my lips too.


I remembered something, but maybe not this post.  I found a post here...there obviously was a question being answered, which I have not yet looked for.

@wreck

The 'shinbone' that was found near a pond, south of the VDSresidence, was aging-tested at the university. It was human bone but over 50years old. There were also [dog] bitemarks on it.

What would happen if Joran did a polygraph test ?

I can be a liar as well, because every child is confronted with this natural phenomenon from day one. We all had to copy the behaviour from those who surrounded us during many years. I call it social genetics behind the frontdoor.
A web of natural double binds who easily can turn into pathological ones.

The VDSfamily shows how those double binds make this case unsolved.






Blonde, Here is wreck's question....

For me this 'new' witness isn't a 'reliable' one until we find out the exact date, when he came forward in 2007. His 'motive' to become a witness in this case  after two years is crap.
I placed him in the greyzone cause of Paulus role.

Some important questions ?

 Could Paulus if he was in the HI Excelsior casino that Sundayevening, also later on have been in the Wyndhamhotel casino the night Natalee vanished after he brought Joran back home to babysit ?
On Tuesdayafternoon Paulus was in the lobby of the HI. Beth saw him there.
Was he only checking Joran's lying alibi [ dead video] or also his own [footage] alibi ?
Could there be another until now 'anonymous' casino player in the Excelsior or the Wyndham or the Radisson casino, who is also working for the Justice department on Aruba ?
Dirty Hand perhaps ? Or Ben Vocking, Paulus friend, who had also a steering role on crucial moments [[ search VDSresidence]  ? Or judge de Wit ? Or .... ?


Welcome Jonathon! I respect your opinions -- many of them re-posted here at SM. I agree 100% that any and all "witnesses" in this case must be vetted -- but in this case it sounds like he has been thorougly checked-out. He has passed SEVERAL polygraphs here in the U.S. . I guess I don't follow you -- it sounds to me his story coincides with Paulus (and his friends) being directly involved. On another note, could you elaborate on the "shin bone" you claimed you had in your possession?
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« Reply #226 on: November 21, 2010, 11:20:48 AM »

GabbyG that is a Beautiful Poem, very heartfelt. I'm going to print it and plastic coat it and put on my mirror so I see it everyday to remind me that I am not in the driver seat and to be patient.  It takes talent to write something like that.  Thanks for sharing!
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« Reply #227 on: November 21, 2010, 11:37:10 AM »

Thinking about Beth and Dave made me remember a poem I wrote for them a couple of years ago. With this new possibility looming before us, I thought I would share it again while we wait.


In His Time

Even while I grieve, I know You are in charge...
I know You're the Boss of this show.
I know we are taught that we must wait on You
But have I the strength? I don't know...

I have tried to be patient, though waiting is hard...
I've tried to just leave it to You.
But the way things have gone just haven't been good...
And I constantly see evil anew.

But again I will do what I know You have asked...
And trust in Your power and Your love.
I will fall to my knees to join others in prayer
And pray for strength from above.

But wait! What was that? What do I hear?
Beautiful voices, whispers, and then...
A soft sweet voice clearly says "In His Time"
Like a promise to me, Heaven sent.

Then a glimpse of her face and her smile I see.
She reminds me of all we are taught.
That we must have faith, believe, and hold true…
Believing is never for naught.

Justice is His, and the righteous will win!
This is promised to those who believe...
So although I am tired, weary and worn
I will wait on You Lord, though I grieve.

I will pray in faith for Justice to come...
To be served rightly so, in Your time.
I will pray for patience as I try to hold on,
My prayer will be… "in Your time, not mine".

by GabbyG

Thank you GabbyG.

 an angelic monkey

Janet




You're very welcome Janet. It is definitely my pleasure to share it.
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« Reply #228 on: November 21, 2010, 11:41:13 AM »

GabbyG that is a Beautiful Poem, very heartfelt. I'm going to print it and plastic coat it and put on my mirror so I see it everyday to remind me that I am not in the driver seat and to be patient.  It takes talent to write something like that.  Thanks for sharing!


Thank you Lisa, for your kind words. I wrote that during one of our down moments/times regarding Natalee, when another hopeful something had gone wrong, and just couldn't stop thinking about how much Dave and Beth must have been hurting. I'm very proud you want to use it, and hope you enjoy it. It's my pleasure to share it.
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Please Angels, watch over all our lost children.

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"A lie told a thousand times becomes the truth" -- Joran van der Sloot
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« Reply #229 on: November 21, 2010, 11:49:06 AM »

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Glenda is parsing words again.  There is a well known anthropologist residing in Aruba. He probably made the initial identification.

Luc Alofs, anthropologist, curator of the Historical Museum Aruba

http://www.petergreenberg.com/2009/08/22/ask-the-locals-island-guide-aruba/
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« Reply #230 on: November 21, 2010, 11:56:54 AM »

* 10:00 am - 4 suspects meet at Bubali police station, and meet at the van der Sloot pool thereafter

* 3:00 pm - Paulus makes a visit to the bank, and has 1 hour missing before arriving home

* 5:00 pm - Paulus takes Joran to the Racquet club wtih the gym bag containing evidence, and Joran meets with Koen to make arrangements for the boat - and they do not play tennis.

* 6:00 pm - Paulus makes his second trip to the Racquet Club to retrieve Joran and the gym bag, they then retrieve Miss Holloway's remains.

* 7:25 pm - Joran calls Deepak, triangulation of the cell phone records shows the location near the boat launch

* 8:15 - 8:30 pm - Paulus at home on the computer researching drugs, Joran at the Wyndham casino.

* 10:30 pm - The van der Sloots are aware the Twitty's are en route to Aruba on a privately chartered jet.

* 11:30 pm - Joran, Guido, and Deepak are in discussion in Deepak’s car in a casino parking lot.

* 2:00 am - Deepak, Joran and Guido leave the casino for one hour, Deepak's car is seen at 2:30 am at the van der sloot home .

As we close this series, we point out that others close to the investigation have also arrived at the exact same conclusion.[/i]



JOSSY MANSUR:

Joran had access to several boats, Mansur said, and could have used one of them to dispose of Natalee's body.

"Whatever happened to her, happened at Joran's apartment or at the beach to the north of the Marriott hotel," Mansur said. "The disposal of her body, we strongly believe, was masterminded by the father, who coached them by the pool at his home and drilled them in what they had to say and which story they had to cling to."
This is exactly what I have been looking for.
18 hours after Natalee was reported missing and the black guys at her hotel were accused and a distraction, the van der Sloots were hiding the body in the bay where her jawbone washed up after hurricane Tomas.
Exactly. But who was the boat that helped them?
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« Reply #231 on: November 21, 2010, 12:08:04 PM »

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Glenda is parsing words again.  There is a well known anthropologist residing in Aruba. He probably made the initial identification.

Luc Alofs, anthropologist, curator of the Historical Museum Aruba

http://www.petergreenberg.com/2009/08/22/ask-the-locals-island-guide-aruba/

http://www.rnw.nl/caribiana/article/arubaanse-verkiezingen-platteland-versus-de-stad?quicktabs_1=1



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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #232 on: November 21, 2010, 12:08:23 PM »


Thank you GabbyG.

 an angelic monkey

Janet




You're very welcome Janet. It is definitely my pleasure to share it.

Gabby

Your words were meant as encouragement for Beth and Dave but ... in regards to some personal issues in my own life ... I was also comforted by the reminder that in all our circumstances our Awesome God in in control.

 

Janet

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« Reply #233 on: November 21, 2010, 12:20:20 PM »

O/T

Glenda is parsing words again.  There is a well known anthropologist residing in Aruba. He probably made the initial identification.

Luc Alofs, anthropologist, curator of the Historical Museum Aruba

http://www.petergreenberg.com/2009/08/22/ask-the-locals-island-guide-aruba/

According to Nancy Grace's guest anthropologist ... sex, age and race can often be determined with only an observation of a jawbone.

The big question!  Is there a connection to Natalee Holloway?  I will be off the forum for most the day.  However ... I will be anticipating an answer to the big question when I return.

Have a good Sunday all!

Janet

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NANCY GRACE
Natalee`s Mother Confronts Joran in Prison
Aired November 17, 2010 - 20:00:00   ET


NANCY GRACE, HOST: With us right now, Heather Walsh-Haney, forensic anthropologist, Florida Gulf Coast University. She`s joining us from Ft. Myers via Skype. Heather, explain to me again how is it that you can determine that this is not only human but it is a white female young adult?

HEATHER WALSH-HANEY, FORENSIC ANTHROPOLOGIST: Nancy, the way that we do that, first to determine that it`s female, is we`re going to look at the chin area. And as you can see on this example of a lower jawbone that I`m holding here, in females, right on the midline -- which would be here in my own face -- we tend to have a pointier chin. In males, the chin itself tends to be very broad, where you have two little bumps on either side of that midline.

The other thing that these forensic experts are doing is they`re evaluating the age of the jawbone by looking at something like this, the dental development. Here what we can see is that all teeth form first by the crown, then by the roots. We know how to age somebody by the development of those teeth relative to one another.

We can also tell the ancestry or race (INAUDIBLE) or bumps (INAUDIBLE) on those teeth. So it sounds to me, with the ability of these forensic experts to come out and say that they have a female, that it`s a young adult, and that this person is most likely white or of European ancestry, that they have a jaw that they either have the lower jaw or upper jaw and that it is relatively intact.

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1011/17/ng.01.html
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« Reply #234 on: November 21, 2010, 12:23:01 PM »

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #235 on: November 21, 2010, 12:31:48 PM »

Sorry, I don't know how to bring the video over! 

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/24490-atencion-special-pa-aruba-atrobe.html

Papiamentu translation:

atencion special for aruba again

saturday, 20 november 2010 20:02

popup video

canalnan of television mericano is dunando atencion special for her caso of the "kaak" cu one tourist owing to descubri week happen in lama among westin y phoenix resort. is specula cu the "kaak" can is of natalee holloway, cu owing to lose at aruba by year 2005. by yesterday the canal noticioso cnn owing to arrive aruba y is transmitiendo bibo for of we island. at more cu one ocasion owing to bay "live" stop fast edificio of ministerio publico. the message is cu the investigacion is casi cla y cu in the next dianan the netherlands will divulga cu if the "kaak" is of one being human y if the will can is of the student mericano. separa of cnn, mayan diadomingo one equipment of nbc also is at aruba y fox news also is haciendo preparacion for come give cobertura for of aruba. others also is pendiente for see cu if have one desaroyo interesting for they also cuminsa come direction for aruba. financieramente also presencia of the ekiponan of produccion here have one efecto positive. directie telecommunicatie zaken (dtz) is cobra for derechonan of transmicion for of we island. in some caso the ekiponan is huur companianan of produccion local for help they or is huur taxistanan for core rond cu they all day. the berdad is cu still not have none novedad in the caso of the "kaak" cu the turistanan owing to encontra in lama week happen. ministerio publico is think cu in week the result will stay cla y they will divulga cu if the "kaak" is of one being human y in the caso ey for verifica cu if the is of the student mericano. till still all cos is stay speculacion, because the opcionnan can is various. have more person perdi at aruba. mature is cu the bad time of ultimo simannan owing to cause cu wind owing to become y lama owing to become bruto. in the caso here lama owing to saca all locual the had scondi in fondo. separa of grass, past owing to saca one "kaak" also. is think cu for tuesday will can come more claridad in the asunto here.



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Scirbi pa Aru-camba, November 21, 2010   

DTZ moet per minuut zo'n 20.000 dollar opstrijken bij een uitzending vanuit Aruba, dan gaat de kassa eindelijk rinkelen en zullen ze zich 2X bedenken om iets uit te zenden. Mits ze gaan proberen via andere wegen toch wat te regelen om aan hun nieuws te komen, hen inclusief degene die de grap maakt om zelf een filmpje te maken en deze door te verkopen aan een Amerikaanse nieuwszender, deze flink beboeten. Ik hoop dat ieder die met de Amerikanen in zee gaat hen uitbuit en ons eiland gaat beschermen tegen de grote monster Amerika. Samen moeten we sterk staan voor ons eiland tegen mediaschurken zoals Beth Twitty, Peter de V(r)ies en hun diabolische teams. Het lijk voor hen alsof Nathaly Runaway de enige is die vermist wordt op het eiland.

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Scirbi pa Aru Camba, November 21, 2010

DTZ to about $ 20,000 per minute for a pocket broadcast from Aruba, then the cash register ringing and finally they will think of something 2X broadcast. Provided they are going to try a bit by other means to arrange for their news for them including the person who makes a joke to make himself a movie and sell it to an American news channel, which quite fine. I hope that anyone with the Americans at sea is exploiting them and our island will protect America against the big monster. Together we must stand strong for our island to media villains like Beth Twitty, Peter V (r) ies and their diabolical teams. The body for them as if Runaway Nathaly the only one missing on the island.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #236 on: November 21, 2010, 12:35:42 PM »

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Glenda is parsing words again.  There is a well known anthropologist residing in Aruba. He probably made the initial identification.

Luc Alofs, anthropologist, curator of the Historical Museum Aruba

http://www.petergreenberg.com/2009/08/22/ask-the-locals-island-guide-aruba/

http://www.rnw.nl/caribiana/article/arubaanse-verkiezingen-platteland-versus-de-stad?quicktabs_1=1





 

Oh My!! You'd think if he were an anthropologist, he could pick up a couple of better fitting teeth............. just sayin'.
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« Reply #237 on: November 21, 2010, 12:37:19 PM »

Great to see you GabbyG!!  Yes, we wait together. I'm so pleased to be among all of you Monkeys! 
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« Reply #238 on: November 21, 2010, 12:49:24 PM »

Sorry, I don't know how to bring the video over! 

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/24490-atencion-special-pa-aruba-atrobe.html

Papiamentu translation:

atencion special for aruba again

saturday, 20 november 2010 20:02

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canalnan of television mericano is dunando atencion special for her caso of the "kaak" cu one tourist owing to descubri week happen in lama among westin y phoenix resort. is specula cu the "kaak" can is of natalee holloway, cu owing to lose at aruba by year 2005. by yesterday the canal noticioso cnn owing to arrive aruba y is transmitiendo bibo for of we island. at more cu one ocasion owing to bay "live" stop fast edificio of ministerio publico. the message is cu the investigacion is casi cla y cu in the next dianan the netherlands will divulga cu if the "kaak" is of one being human y if the will can is of the student mericano. separa of cnn, mayan diadomingo one equipment of nbc also is at aruba y fox news also is haciendo preparacion for come give cobertura for of aruba. others also is pendiente for see cu if have one desaroyo interesting for they also cuminsa come direction for aruba. financieramente also presencia of the ekiponan of produccion here have one efecto positive. directie telecommunicatie zaken (dtz) is cobra for derechonan of transmicion for of we island. in some caso the ekiponan is huur companianan of produccion local for help they or is huur taxistanan for core rond cu they all day. the berdad is cu still not have none novedad in the caso of the "kaak" cu the turistanan owing to encontra in lama week happen. ministerio publico is think cu in week the result will stay cla y they will divulga cu if the "kaak" is of one being human y in the caso ey for verifica cu if the is of the student mericano. till still all cos is stay speculacion, because the opcionnan can is various. have more person perdi at aruba. mature is cu the bad time of ultimo simannan owing to cause cu wind owing to become y lama owing to become bruto. in the caso here lama owing to saca all locual the had scondi in fondo. separa of grass, past owing to saca one "kaak" also. is think cu for tuesday will can come more claridad in the asunto here.



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Scirbi pa Aru-camba, November 21, 2010   

DTZ moet per minuut zo'n 20.000 dollar opstrijken bij een uitzending vanuit Aruba, dan gaat de kassa eindelijk rinkelen en zullen ze zich 2X bedenken om iets uit te zenden. Mits ze gaan proberen via andere wegen toch wat te regelen om aan hun nieuws te komen, hen inclusief degene die de grap maakt om zelf een filmpje te maken en deze door te verkopen aan een Amerikaanse nieuwszender, deze flink beboeten. Ik hoop dat ieder die met de Amerikanen in zee gaat hen uitbuit en ons eiland gaat beschermen tegen de grote monster Amerika. Samen moeten we sterk staan voor ons eiland tegen mediaschurken zoals Beth Twitty, Peter de V(r)ies en hun diabolische teams. Het lijk voor hen alsof Nathaly Runaway de enige is die vermist wordt op het eiland.

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Scirbi pa Aru Camba, November 21, 2010

DTZ to about $ 20,000 per minute for a pocket broadcast from Aruba, then the cash register ringing and finally they will think of something 2X broadcast. Provided they are going to try a bit by other means to arrange for their news for them including the person who makes a joke to make himself a movie and sell it to an American news channel, which quite fine. I hope that anyone with the Americans at sea is exploiting them and our island will protect America against the big monster. Together we must stand strong for our island to media villains like Beth Twitty, Peter V (r) ies and their diabolical teams. The body for them as if Runaway Nathaly the only one missing on the island.


Go to h*ll!   

and yes, we know there are others missing on the "one happy island!"
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« Reply #239 on: November 21, 2010, 12:49:48 PM »

OMG Lisa......... you got me on the poem.......... groping for kleenex........


I'm nervous about the lack of an announcement about the bone. How on Earth do Beth and Dave go through this? It's beyond cruel to delay an identification and at this point, I'm convinced that's exactly what is happening.

I HATE THEM ALL!!

I agree, CBB, It's beyond cruel.
It has to be Natalee this time. They're just delaying it to show that they will not be pressured or forced.

Snoopy..my condolences on your loss. That's the downside of pet ownership that their years are shorter than ours.
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