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« Reply #340 on: November 21, 2010, 10:06:39 PM »

Jawbone belongs to a young female’
19 Nov, 2010, 13:25 (GMT -04:00)


ORANJESTAD — The partial jawbone found by American tourists on the beach near the Phoenix Hotel last week Friday, belongs to a young female. At any rate, that’s what American media are saying, who base this on comments from field officer Peter Blanken. He is currently in the Netherlands and was not available for comment this morning.

Meanwhile, the Public Prosecutor (OM) here does not wish to comment on the case and says one will wait for the result from the Dutch Forensic Institute (NFI). Whether Blanken had indeed told the American media that it regarded a jawbone of a young female, solicitor general Taco Stein could not ‘confirm or deny’ this morning. “As I have not spoken to him yet, I do not know what he did or did not say. Our viewpoint remains that we wait for the result from NFI,” Stein said before the Amigoe.

It is unknown yet when the research from the Forensic Institute will be completed. However, the solicitor general does know that no result will be available today anyhow. “We will probably know more next week.” Stein says that based on the result, the OM will ‘consider’ what will be made known to the media and that any relatives will be informed first. “You can imagine the Holloway-family is having a hard time now.” Stein did not wish to anticipate of which consequences a positive identification could have for the investigation into the case surrounding Natalee Holloway. Nevertheless, he says one has meanwhile searched the location where the jawbone had washed ashore. This investigation had not yielded anything, according to Stein.

For that matter, it is still not certain whether one could remove sufficient DNA from the jawbone for positive identification. “We will have to wait what the experts say, but the bone had been in the seawater for a long time.” The DNA material from the jawbone will be compared with the DNA profiles from Natalee’s parents. Dental data from Natalee is supposedly sent from the United States to the Netherlands for comparison as well. The American teenager disappeared without a trace in 2005 after spending an evening out at Carlos and Charlies. Joran van der Sloot was the last person she was seen with. Joran is meanwhile on remand in the Castro Castro prison in Peru. He is suspected of murdering the Peruvian student Stephany Flores last May.

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_81262.php
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« Reply #341 on: November 21, 2010, 10:08:26 PM »

Somewhere I remember the rumor of Joran using an aluminum bat ????

I can't remember where that came from, but yes, I've heard that rumour too. There are several things that support the theory that Natalee died violently. Among them are:

The police car recording: "If they find her they'll see that shit."
The repeated statements by JK2 that Natalee fell and hit her head.
The glimpse of Joran's MO we got when he killed Stephany.

 
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« Reply #342 on: November 21, 2010, 10:09:28 PM »

Geraldo will cover Natalee's case in a few minutes.
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« Reply #343 on: November 21, 2010, 10:09:39 PM »


Goodnight Monkeys.

Hopefully we'll have more answers tomorrow.

Justice for Natalee and Stefany!
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Goodnight can!!

Carpe, according to reports I've seen on CNN and Fox, we're in the cruel zone. Both networks have had scientists/forensic Physicians on that stated they know the identity by now.

Geraldo is on and will be covering the case.

Thanks for the report, CBB. 
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« Reply #344 on: November 21, 2010, 10:09:56 PM »

Should have added the part in the Police car recording where there is talk of hitting a girl/Natalee with a car.
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« Reply #345 on: November 21, 2010, 10:17:25 PM »

Single male Kayaker from 2003 off waters of Curacao but Aruba Sea and Rescue was looking for him.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=MDMfAAAAIBAJ&sjid=HdAEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3372,5062578&dq=kayak+aruba+missing&hl=en

Thanks, Northern Rose.  You got farther than I did. 
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« Reply #346 on: November 21, 2010, 10:19:22 PM »

Geraldo: "The silence from Holland is deafening. They almost certainly know whether the jawbone belongs to Natalee."
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« Reply #347 on: November 21, 2010, 10:19:49 PM »

Geraldo: "The silence from Holland is deafening. They almost certainly know whether the jawbone belongs to Natalee."

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #348 on: November 21, 2010, 10:20:37 PM »

Somewhere I remember the rumor of Joran using an aluminum bat ????

I can't remember where that came from, but yes, I've heard that rumour too. There are several things that support the theory that Natalee died violently. Among them are:

The police car recording: "If they find her they'll see that shit."
The repeated statements by JK2 that Natalee fell and hit her head.
The glimpse of Joran's MO we got when he killed Stephany.

 


I think the aluminum bat came from Viet Vet, Jug's friend.  They heard that at the
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« Reply #349 on: November 21, 2010, 10:22:08 PM »

Somewhere I remember the rumor of Joran using an aluminum bat ????

I can't remember where that came from, but yes, I've heard that rumour too. There are several things that support the theory that Natalee died violently. Among them are:

The police car recording: "If they find her they'll see that shit."
The repeated statements by JK2 that Natalee fell and hit her head.
The glimpse of Joran's MO we got when he killed Stephany.

 


I think the aluminum bat came from Viet Vet, Jug's friend.  They heard that at the
International School.

AH! That rings a bell! Magnolia, thank you!!
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« Reply #350 on: November 21, 2010, 10:23:47 PM »

I think Geraldo said Dr. Baden will be coming up........... I hope so!
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« Reply #351 on: November 21, 2010, 10:25:24 PM »

I think Geraldo said Dr. Baden will be coming up........... I hope so!

He's on now!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #352 on: November 21, 2010, 10:25:54 PM »

Dr. Baden: "Dental Records are like a fingerprint. Certainly Holland knows. Dental X-Rays make immediate identification possible."
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« Reply #353 on: November 21, 2010, 10:26:11 PM »

Somewhere I remember the rumor of Joran using an aluminum bat ????

Diario … “THEY WENT INTO PANIC WHEN NATALEE REMAINED PASSED OUT”
Posted December 6, 2006 by Scared Monkeys

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66.  viet vet on December 6th, 2006 8:11 pm

Speaking of off the record comments, we were told were to find Joran at the International School on a Friday , June 2 or 3, have it in my notes. Was also told Joran hit Natalee with an aluminum baseball bat…in the head. The same man told me both stories and guess what, Joran was at the International School that day, hiding. He was sleeping over there rather than home,,, scared he was. The fine Aruba Police followed us to the school that day or maybe we would already have solved this case. Yeah Karin, a bounch of cowboys…

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2006/12/06/diario-they-went-into-panic-when-natalee-remained-passed-out/
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« Reply #354 on: November 21, 2010, 10:26:21 PM »

Somewhere I remember the rumor of Joran using an aluminum bat ????

Diario … “THEY WENT INTO PANIC WHEN NATALEE REMAINED PASSED OUT”
Posted December 6, 2006 by Scared Monkeys

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66.  viet vet on December 6th, 2006 8:11 pm

Speaking of off the record comments, we were told were to find Joran at the International School on a Friday , June 2 or 3, have it in my notes. Was also told Joran hit Natalee with an aluminum baseball bat…in the head. The same man told me both stories and guess what, Joran was at the International School that day, hiding. He was sleeping over there rather than home,,, scared he was. The fine Aruba Police followed us to the school that day or maybe we would already have solved this case. Yeah Karin, a bounch of cowboys…

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2006/12/06/diario-they-went-into-panic-when-natalee-remained-passed-out/

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« Reply #355 on: November 21, 2010, 10:28:01 PM »

Thanks 2NJ

I thought my post was invisible.

Janet
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« Reply #356 on: November 21, 2010, 10:28:26 PM »

Single male Kayaker from 2003 off waters of Curacao but Aruba Sea and Rescue was looking for him.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=MDMfAAAAIBAJ&sjid=HdAEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3372,5062578&dq=kayak+aruba+missing&hl=en

Thanks, Northern Rose.  You got farther than I did. 

Still looking.  Also found four missing aboard a ketch missing between  St. Croix to Aruba in 1973

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=2McIAAAAIBAJ&sjid=yUQDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4637,293226&dq=aruba+missing+-natalee&hl=en
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« Reply #357 on: November 21, 2010, 10:28:42 PM »

Janet, I beat you by a few.   
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« Reply #358 on: November 21, 2010, 10:31:57 PM »

Thanks 2NJ

I thought my post was invisible.

Janet

Thanks Janet! I'm amazed by the collective information and knowledge of detail on this thread! I always thought that if Joran could be tried for Natalee's murder, the prosecutor would benefit by an SM membership and laptop in the courtroom! 
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« Reply #359 on: November 21, 2010, 10:37:10 PM »

If Joran van der Sloot was found guilty of murder in an Aruba court  ... would Natalee Holloway's parents have a foundation for a civil suit against the management of the Excelsior Casino and Carlos and Charlies.

As John Kelly as stated ... if an underage Joran had not been at either establishment on the evening of May 29, 2009 ... the chain of events that led to the demise of Natalee would not have begun.

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What is the legal drinking/gambling age?

The legal age for both drinking and gambling is 18 years. It is not, however, widely enforced. You will not usually be “carded”.

http://www.aruba-travelguide.com/faq/index.html
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
_____

“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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