Kyron Horman, 7 years old, PORTLAND, OR #37 12/5/10 - 12/18/10

[no rose colored glasses]

This post from neighbor, really surprised me, because I don't remember reading this.    
It was always my assumption that she provided the opportunity and used a willing bystander.  The best candidate that comes to mind is the "creep" that 7/8th grades saw near the dumpsters.  Sorry, I can find the link later.

  I found that creepy too (no pun intended) and also read on several news sites in the beginning the local dumps were never checked, IIRC there were 2 within ~10 miles. I never understood why not pursue this, especially considering how many ppl have been put in a dumpster to be discarded in a massive dump, Michael Blaag's wife, Somer Thompson and Lori Hacking are 3 I can think of in less than 30 seconds....

I know that makes no sense to not have checked the local dumps. 

[Puzzler]

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=114386168614817&topic=26

This is an interesting list that someone compiled of "who's who" in the case. There are names and events on here that I had never heard of, especially the siting of Kyron in a Kaiser Facility.

Is there anyway someone can post the "who's who" on SM for those of us who don't do Facebook, please?

Hi Puzzler,
I did not post the whole list because there are many minors names on the list. It is a VERY long list. I don't think you have to be a facebook member to view it. If you do have to be a facebook member, I would need Klaas to give me the o.k. before I post all of the names.

Sebastain - I understand about the "minors" and agree with you - no need to bother Klaas.

Maybe you can tell me a little more about the siting of Kyron in a Kaiser facility.  I've never heard about that one before.  TIA

[Dihannah1]

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/11/02/kyron-horman-case-terri-horman-sexts-sent-to-kaine-hormans-phone-what/

beejay says:
December 14, 2010 at 11:16 am
Blink, I understand your response to this post to mean that there WAS a sexual predator at Skyline that day, and MCSO has a description (not made public) of him. Am I reading you correctly?TIA
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justice4kyron says:
December 14, 2010 at 11:04 am

Blink says:Opportunist Sexual Predator Pedophile- Highly organized offender, serial.
No kids of his own, possible divorce.
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Blink-Is there a physical description for this monster?

Not publicly, no.
B

That is my opinion, and that of some of our inside sources, yes.

B

Wow, but why would this man not strike again? Of course he will strike again. I'm missing something with all this.

Look how long it took Joran to strike again and get  caught

Good point.  And I'll go even farther than that.  20 yrs for the BK killer to get caught and it was a fluke that he did.

[Dihannah1]

On a side note.  I believe it is good to look at all angles, we are all pretty much, long time sleuthers (armchair dectectives, if you will),  we've seen it all (I HOPE), so nothing should be overlooked, but my gut says Terri.  She's too silent for an innocent person, not to mention, I'd be fighting like hell to get my baby back!

[MuffyBee]

Searching dumps is very dangerous work, with a lot of hazardous waste and materials.  Also, unless the searchers have fairly specific areas to search, it can be like a needle in a haystack.  In my time here with Scared Monkeys, there have been a number of cases where dumps were searched.  The area/neighborhood most likely where a body or evidence may have been dumped, along with where the trucks that picked up the garbage from dumpsters/trash cans  deposited the garbage would be helpful information.  Even then, the searching can be very hazardous and time consuming.  The more time that goes by before  a search is started, the more tons and tons of trash there is.  I've seen photos of searches that were being executed in dumps.  It's really amazing to me how they find anything sometimes.    

[Curly]

The silence of LE and Terri is deafening.
I believe Terri is guilty, with or without help...she's the mastermind of Kyron's disappearance.

[hellokitty]

 

I would really like some info on where these dumps are.  I have not seen any documentation that there are dumps around there.

Does anyone have that documentation?

[sebastian]

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=114386168614817&topic=26

This is an interesting list that someone compiled of "who's who" in the case. There are names and events on here that I had never heard of, especially the siting of Kyron in a Kaiser Facility.

Is there anyway someone can post the "who's who" on SM for those of us who don't do Facebook, please?

Hi Puzzler,
I did not post the whole list because there are many minors names on the list. It is a VERY long list. I don't think you have to be a facebook member to view it. If you do have to be a facebook member, I would need Klaas to give me the o.k. before I post all of the names.

Sebastain - I understand about the "minors" and agree with you - no need to bother Klaas.

Maybe you can tell me a little more about the siting of Kyron in a Kaiser facility.  I've never heard about that one before.  TIA

Hi Puzzler,
My bad. It was not a Kaiser facility, it was a restaurant called Keizer. I have Kaiser on the brain today as I am home sick with the flu.

•Weber, Edward - called in a tip that he thought he saw Kyron 10 days later while eating lunch in Keizer, about 45 miles south of Portland. He took pictures of the boy he saw and the license plate number of the car that drove away from the restaurant

[monchichi]

Hi Puzzler,
My bad. It was not a Kaiser facility, it was a restaurant called Keizer. I have Kaiser on the brain today as I am home sick with the flu.

•Weber, Edward - called in a tip that he thought he saw Kyron 10 days later while eating lunch in Keizer, about 45 miles south of Portland. He took pictures of the boy he saw and the license plate number of the car that drove away from the restaurant

Hi Sebastian, Keizer is a city in Oregon.

[Girlzrock]

Hi Puzzler,
My bad. It was not a Kaiser facility, it was a restaurant called Keizer. I have Kaiser on the brain today as I am home sick with the flu.

•Weber, Edward - called in a tip that he thought he saw Kyron 10 days later while eating lunch in Keizer, about 45 miles south of Portland. He took pictures of the boy he saw and the license plate number of the car that drove away from the restaurant

Hi Sebastian, Keizer is a city in Oregon.

That's right.... just north of Salem, Ore. 

[sebastian]

Hi Puzzler,
My bad. It was not a Kaiser facility, it was a restaurant called Keizer. I have Kaiser on the brain today as I am home sick with the flu.

•Weber, Edward - called in a tip that he thought he saw Kyron 10 days later while eating lunch in Keizer, about 45 miles south of Portland. He took pictures of the boy he saw and the license plate number of the car that drove away from the restaurant

Hi Sebastian, Keizer is a city in Oregon.

Hi Monchichi,
My bad AGAIN, lol. My brain is fuzzy from a raging head cold. I thought Keizer was a restaurant, not a town

[monchichi]

Hi Puzzler,
My bad. It was not a Kaiser facility, it was a restaurant called Keizer. I have Kaiser on the brain today as I am home sick with the flu.

•Weber, Edward - called in a tip that he thought he saw Kyron 10 days later while eating lunch in Keizer, about 45 miles south of Portland. He took pictures of the boy he saw and the license plate number of the car that drove away from the restaurant

Hi Sebastian, Keizer is a city in Oregon.

Hi Monchichi,
My bad AGAIN, lol. My brain is fuzzy from a raging head cold. I thought Keizer was a restaurant, not a town

I understand, I hope you feel better soon!

[sebastian]

Hi Puzzler,
My bad. It was not a Kaiser facility, it was a restaurant called Keizer. I have Kaiser on the brain today as I am home sick with the flu.

•Weber, Edward - called in a tip that he thought he saw Kyron 10 days later while eating lunch in Keizer, about 45 miles south of Portland. He took pictures of the boy he saw and the license plate number of the car that drove away from the restaurant

Hi Sebastian, Keizer is a city in Oregon.

Hi Monchichi,
My bad AGAIN, lol. My brain is fuzzy from a raging head cold. I thought Keizer was a restaurant, not a town

I understand, I hope you feel better soon!

Thank you Monchichi!

[Kat_Gram]

I have been doing alot of reading back. Oregon Live, other threads and I have just been looking at the early days. June 4,5,6. Trying to not know about most of the ugly chit we have read.
The parents did not want to come forward at the beginning and they didn't. Or whose idea was that ?? Why ?
There were no flyers at the beginning. No plea from the parents, step or bio.

[sebastian]

I have been doing alot of reading back. Oregon Live, other threads and I have just been looking at the early days. June 4,5,6. Trying to not know about most of the ugly chit we have read.
The parents did not want to come forward at the beginning and they didn't. Or whose idea was that ?? Why ?
There were no flyers at the beginning. No plea from the parents, step or bio.

Hi Kat_Gram
This has always bothered me as well. There must be something about at least one of the parents, bio or otherwise, that had been circulating throught the local rumor mills prior to Kyron's disappearance. It is the only thing that makes sense. Why else would the parents think that by coming in front of the media in the early days, they would be taking the focus off of Kyron?

[mamacrazy30]

I have been doing alot of reading back. Oregon Live, other threads and I have just been looking at the early days. June 4,5,6. Trying to not know about most of the ugly chit we have read.
The parents did not want to come forward at the beginning and they didn't. Or whose idea was that ?? Why ?
There were no flyers at the beginning. No plea from the parents, step or bio.

yeah, ya gotta wonder about that.  i remember at one time when a situation like this would happen, there would be an appointed 'family spokesperson'  someone not tied down with the ransome calls, searching, giving le all the info they have.  a friend or family member that would step in, so that the parents of the missing could do what they had to do without the intrusion of, well, whoever. 

i do not doubt that the parents and step-parents of Kyron are victims,  but man, i just have a feeling that at least more than one of them were into something that they wanted not to be known.

JMO, speculation, i have no clue, just a guess.

[Monkey King]

This whole case has been strange. Most parents do go before the media and plead for their child's safe return. I don't get it either, other than they were pointing the finger at Terri early on and tha remained the focus to the exclusion of anyone else. This approach appears to have compromised this case and the real culprit is long gone. Terrible.

[mamacrazy30]

This whole case has been strange. Most parents do go before the media and plead for their child's safe return. I don't get it either, other than they were pointing the finger at Terri early on and tha remained the focus to the exclusion of anyone else. This approach appears to have compromised this case and the real culprit is long gone. Terrible.

[Scandi]

I would really like some info on where these dumps are.  I have not seen any documentation that there are dumps around there.

Does anyone have that documentation?

Hi Hellokitty,

Here is a link to the Hillsboro Landfill.  I don't know if it pulls from the Skyline area:

http://www.wmnorthwest.com/landfill/landfillcities/hillsboro.html

I also found this landfill right south of Sauvie Island:  http://www.pps.k12.or.us/schools-c/map/SkylineMap.pdf  It might be an old landfill no longer in use as it is in the middle of an industrial area.  Yes, that is the St John's Landfill which is closed:  http://www.oregonmetro.gov/index.cfm/go/by.web/id=25126

I think the garbage from the Portland goes to either of 2 transfer stations and not to regular landfills like they used to have:  http://www.metro-region.org/index.cfm/go/by.web/id=570

Here is a map of the 2 transfer stations: 

[Monkey King]

And don't forget when the family kicked out the two biggest newspapers during their presser and wanting questions emailed to them. Perhaps the police wanted to screen their questions-so that one is easy to ignore, but the newspaper's- that was odd.