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« Reply #40 on: November 27, 2010, 12:31:31 PM »



Excuse the repost

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=615.msg297225#msg297225

Dennis Jacobs ~ Lead Detective? Or Key Obstructionist?

   (snipped)

The steps Dennis Jacobs took to whittle down the content of Dave’s meeting with Paulus, and his addition of the not present Detective Soemer’s name to Dave’s statement, and the unbelievably bold steps he took to completely change Beth’s statement made us wonder.

What other statements did Dennis Jacobs manipulate?

What key elements could have been given by these various witnesses and suspects, that Dennis Jacobs may have tampered with?

Freddy Zedan
June 17, 2005
pages 6
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Freddy Zedan Arrambatzis
July 20, 2005
pages 4
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Freddy Alexander Arambatzis
February 10, 2006 17:15
pages 5
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: interrogation of a suspect

Jaime Alberto Carrasquilla
August 30, 2005
pages 5
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Stefany Mejia Cortes
August 23, 2005
pages 5 - attachments of photographs
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement/complaint

Stefany Mejia Cortes
August 24, 2005
pages 3
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement/complaint

Margaritha Dijkhoff - Van der Sloot maid - third statement
August 11, 2005
pages 3
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Judith Geerman
July 29, 2005
page 1
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Koen Gottenbos
August 30, 2005 18:30
pages 3
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Jose Anacleto Maduro
August 28, 2005
pages 5 - two photograph attachments
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement by a prison inmate

Wilfred Benito Maduro
February 14, 2006 16:00
pages 3
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Milangelo Jairo Ferdinand Marcano
September 10, 2005
pages 3
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

**Osman automotive Center employee statements

Osman Farouk Osman
July 20, 2005
pages 4
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement by an automotive Center employee

Osman Farouk Osman
August 6, 2005
pages 2
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement by an Automotive Center employee
**

Carmen Aurora Pacheco
August 29, 2005
pages 3
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Christopher Dangelo Peterson
September 10, 2005
pages 4
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Amanda Portocarrero
July 28, 2005
pages 2
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Carlos Penata Ramos
August 11, 2005
pages 1 - six attachments of boat crew list
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Carlos Penata Ramos
August 16, 2005
pages 2
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Franco S.P. Rivas
August 24, 2005
pages 4
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Leonardo Lopez Rivera - second statement
August 29, 2005
pages 3
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

***Dennis Jacobs same patsey that he used on Dave's statement is attached to this statement. Who really took this statement from Paulus and Anita van der Sloot?


Paul Van der Sloot and Anita Van der Sloot
December 5, 2006
pages 1
writer: Eric Soemers
description: witness statement



May 31 DEEPAK Dennis Dominico JACOBS and Shaniro Baldrik KELLY

May 31 SATISH Dennis Dominico JACOBS

June 16 SATISH,JORAN Dennis Dominico JACOBS, Juan Enrique Boezem, Luigi Angelo Giovanni Croes

June 30 SATISH Dennis Dominico JACOBS and Haydee Azucena NADAL

July 03 SATISH Dennis Dominico JACOBS and Haydee Azucena NADAL

June 5 A.JONES Dennis Dominico JACOBS, Jonathan Patrick ORMAN

June 17 JAMIE Carrasquilla Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES. Dennis Dominico JACOBS

June 20 ANDRE Dos Santos Dennis Dominico JACOBS and Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES

July 08 Solvert Reneska (SG) Dennis Dominico JACOBS and Zoraida Megaly de CUBA

August 11 WERLEMAN Dennis Dominico JACOBS and Eric Louis SOEMERS

June 9 JORAN Dennis Domenico JACOBS, Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES
June 10 JORAN Dennis Dominico Jacobs and Luigi Angelo Giovanni Croes
June 14 JORAN Dennis Domenico JACOBS and Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES
June 16 SATISH,JORAN Dennis Dominico JACOBS, Juan Enrique Boezem and Luigi Angelo Giovanni Croes
June 24 JORAN (2nd statement) Dennis Domenico JACOBS and Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES


*What answers could this victim’s family have received had someone other than Dennis Jacobs handled these key suspects and witnesses?

*What truths were hidden by Dennis Jacobs that could have helped this grieving family, and brought justice for the crimes against their beloved Natalee?

Natalee and her family deserve justice, and we will not let up until they have it!
Natalee’s Freebirds
http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/

Thanks Sharon!   

I haven't listened to much of these recordings at all, but this reminded me of something I heard in one of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wl71eShp0A

Daniel Young: In April of 06 we went back to Aruba, and Paul van der Sloot picked us up at the airport.  Julia Renfro came over with one of her colleagues, to Anita's house...and we (began?, or we'd been?) conversing back and forth...Anita...the police department, Eric Soemers... in Aruba. 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #41 on: November 27, 2010, 12:57:36 PM »


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Local Man Finds Jawbone On Aruban Beach
Authorities Investigate Whether Bone Belongs To Natalee Holloway

POSTED: 8:25 am EST November 23, 2010
UPDATED: 8:55 am EST November 23, 2010


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"All the teeth were missing except for one molar in the back," Gil Beaulieu said. "It was in good shape."

Such good shape that they could even see a tiny hole in the tooth.

<snipped>

http://www.wfsb.com/news/25889547/detail.html


Natalee Holloway: Jawbone Not That of Missing American Teen
Jawbone With One Tooth Attached Found Two Weeks Ago on Aruban Beach
Nov. 23, 2010


The determination was made using Holloway's dental records, according to a statement issued late this morning by the Aruba Public Prosecutor's Office.

Aruban Solicitor General Taco Stein said shortly after the announcement that they could determine quickly that the bone wasn't Holloway's -- the jawbone found on the beach had a wisdom tooth still attached and Holloway's dental records showed the teen had had her wisdom teeth removed.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/natalee-holloway-jaw-bone-missing-american-teen/story?id=12222677



Hmmm

Yup!  That is from the official statement.  I will post it again:

Official Press Release

<snipped>

Using the dental records of Natalee Holloway, such as the location of wisdom teeth and fillings, a comparison was made with the jaw bone recovered on Aruba. Based on these comparisons it could be excluded that the investigated bone material and molar came from Natalee Holloway. DNA testing Along with the forensic anthropological and odontological research, the NFI initiated a forensic DNA investigation. However, only a very small amount of DNA material was present and that was also of low quality. The bone appeared to have been exposed to various (weather) influences and proved to be porous.

<snipped>

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/24580-resultado-di-test-di-weso.html

GREAT CATCH!!

Blonde ... I hope the FBI has requested an image of the jawbone find.  Maybe the tourists could confirm whether or not the Aruban cover up in the Natalee Holloway case is being furthered.

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« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2010, 01:16:14 PM »


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Local Man Finds Jawbone On Aruban Beach
Authorities Investigate Whether Bone Belongs To Natalee Holloway

POSTED: 8:25 am EST November 23, 2010
UPDATED: 8:55 am EST November 23, 2010


<snipped>

"All the teeth were missing except for one molar in the back," Gil Beaulieu said. "It was in good shape."

Such good shape that they could even see a tiny hole in the tooth.

<snipped>

http://www.wfsb.com/news/25889547/detail.html


Natalee Holloway: Jawbone Not That of Missing American Teen
Jawbone With One Tooth Attached Found Two Weeks Ago on Aruban Beach
Nov. 23, 2010


The determination was made using Holloway's dental records, according to a statement issued late this morning by the Aruba Public Prosecutor's Office.

Aruban Solicitor General Taco Stein said shortly after the announcement that they could determine quickly that the bone wasn't Holloway's -- the jawbone found on the beach had a wisdom tooth still attached and Holloway's dental records showed the teen had had her wisdom teeth removed.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/natalee-holloway-jaw-bone-missing-american-teen/story?id=12222677



Hmmm

Yup!  That is from the official statement.  I will post it again:

Official Press Release

<snipped>

Using the dental records of Natalee Holloway, such as the location of wisdom teeth and fillings, a comparison was made with the jaw bone recovered on Aruba. Based on these comparisons it could be excluded that the investigated bone material and molar came from Natalee Holloway. DNA testing Along with the forensic anthropological and odontological research, the NFI initiated a forensic DNA investigation. However, only a very small amount of DNA material was present and that was also of low quality. The bone appeared to have been exposed to various (weather) influences and proved to be porous.

<snipped>

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/24580-resultado-di-test-di-weso.html

GREAT CATCH!!

Blonde ... I hope the FBI has requested an image of the jawbone find.  Maybe the tourists could confirm whether or not the Aruban cover up in the Natalee Holloway case is being furthered.

Janet


YES this may be way he's so happy
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« Reply #43 on: November 27, 2010, 01:25:33 PM »

Blonde

As others have indicated ... the skull inside the trap appears to be missing a jawbone.

Janet

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Kyle Kingman:
  .... I got the OK to begin our ROV dive series for the 29th, so I made it our first dive. We got visual of the fish trap and that it was suspicious. Basically, the fish trap door was open and there appeared to be a skull and torso-shape in sand on the door inside the trap.

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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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« Reply #44 on: November 27, 2010, 01:33:43 PM »

Hi Sharon

 

Thank you for the reminder.

It is important that SM members and guests reading the forum who do not have an indepth knowledge encompassing the corrupt Aruban investigation that has prevented justice from prevailing since May 30, 2005 are informed.

Somehow I do not believe that the Aruban tourists who found the jawbone would have turned it over to Aruban authorities ... without at the very least ... taken a photos of the find from every angle if one of them really comprehended.  I know you or I would have taken steps to ensure the truth was not covered up.

I hope you had a nice Thanksgiving.

Janet




 

Thanks, Janet. Time with family and friends is always nice for me -- especially when food and wine are involved 

I can not imagine doing anything of importance with anything Aruban without making it an official transaction with a jurisdiction outside of that craggy rock. Maybe with Switzerland, so the traitors can't use their anti-American agenda as a defense.

And yes -- you understand my intent exactly Smile  I'm thrilled that this cause continues to gain supporters -- but it is not reasonable to expect that newcomers have had the chance to be exposed to and digest the past 5 + years.

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« Reply #45 on: November 27, 2010, 01:40:24 PM »



Excuse the repost

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=615.msg297225#msg297225

Dennis Jacobs ~ Lead Detective? Or Key Obstructionist?

   (snipped)

The steps Dennis Jacobs took to whittle down the content of Dave’s meeting with Paulus, and his addition of the not present Detective Soemer’s name to Dave’s statement, and the unbelievably bold steps he took to completely change Beth’s statement made us wonder.

What other statements did Dennis Jacobs manipulate?

What key elements could have been given by these various witnesses and suspects, that Dennis Jacobs may have tampered with?

Freddy Zedan
June 17, 2005
pages 6
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Freddy Zedan Arrambatzis
July 20, 2005
pages 4
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Freddy Alexander Arambatzis
February 10, 2006 17:15
pages 5
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: interrogation of a suspect

Jaime Alberto Carrasquilla
August 30, 2005
pages 5
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Stefany Mejia Cortes
August 23, 2005
pages 5 - attachments of photographs
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement/complaint

Stefany Mejia Cortes
August 24, 2005
pages 3
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement/complaint

Margaritha Dijkhoff - Van der Sloot maid - third statement
August 11, 2005
pages 3
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Judith Geerman
July 29, 2005
page 1
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Koen Gottenbos
August 30, 2005 18:30
pages 3
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Jose Anacleto Maduro
August 28, 2005
pages 5 - two photograph attachments
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement by a prison inmate

Wilfred Benito Maduro
February 14, 2006 16:00
pages 3
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Milangelo Jairo Ferdinand Marcano
September 10, 2005
pages 3
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

**Osman automotive Center employee statements

Osman Farouk Osman
July 20, 2005
pages 4
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement by an automotive Center employee

Osman Farouk Osman
August 6, 2005
pages 2
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement by an Automotive Center employee
**

Carmen Aurora Pacheco
August 29, 2005
pages 3
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Christopher Dangelo Peterson
September 10, 2005
pages 4
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Amanda Portocarrero
July 28, 2005
pages 2
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Carlos Penata Ramos
August 11, 2005
pages 1 - six attachments of boat crew list
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Carlos Penata Ramos
August 16, 2005
pages 2
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Franco S.P. Rivas
August 24, 2005
pages 4
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Leonardo Lopez Rivera - second statement
August 29, 2005
pages 3
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

***Dennis Jacobs same patsey that he used on Dave's statement is attached to this statement. Who really took this statement from Paulus and Anita van der Sloot?


Paul Van der Sloot and Anita Van der Sloot
December 5, 2006
pages 1
writer: Eric Soemers
description: witness statement



May 31 DEEPAK Dennis Dominico JACOBS and Shaniro Baldrik KELLY

May 31 SATISH Dennis Dominico JACOBS

June 16 SATISH,JORAN Dennis Dominico JACOBS, Juan Enrique Boezem, Luigi Angelo Giovanni Croes

June 30 SATISH Dennis Dominico JACOBS and Haydee Azucena NADAL

July 03 SATISH Dennis Dominico JACOBS and Haydee Azucena NADAL

June 5 A.JONES Dennis Dominico JACOBS, Jonathan Patrick ORMAN

June 17 JAMIE Carrasquilla Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES. Dennis Dominico JACOBS

June 20 ANDRE Dos Santos Dennis Dominico JACOBS and Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES

July 08 Solvert Reneska (SG) Dennis Dominico JACOBS and Zoraida Megaly de CUBA

August 11 WERLEMAN Dennis Dominico JACOBS and Eric Louis SOEMERS

June 9 JORAN Dennis Domenico JACOBS, Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES
June 10 JORAN Dennis Dominico Jacobs and Luigi Angelo Giovanni Croes
June 14 JORAN Dennis Domenico JACOBS and Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES
June 16 SATISH,JORAN Dennis Dominico JACOBS, Juan Enrique Boezem and Luigi Angelo Giovanni Croes
June 24 JORAN (2nd statement) Dennis Domenico JACOBS and Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES


*What answers could this victim’s family have received had someone other than Dennis Jacobs handled these key suspects and witnesses?

*What truths were hidden by Dennis Jacobs that could have helped this grieving family, and brought justice for the crimes against their beloved Natalee?

Natalee and her family deserve justice, and we will not let up until they have it!
Natalee’s Freebirds
http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/

Thanks Sharon!   

I haven't listened to much of these recordings at all, but this reminded me of something I heard in one of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wl71eShp0A

Daniel Young: In April of 06 we went back to Aruba, and Paul van der Sloot picked us up at the airport.  Julia Renfro came over with one of her colleagues, to Anita's house...and we (began?, or we'd been?) conversing back and forth...Anita...the police department, Eric Soemers... in Aruba. 

 

It's like the kid's game - connect the dots.

They think we are so 'stoopid'  We wouldn't notice. The intent to mislead and confuse. 

Hope you had a great Thanksgiving, TM.

We will all see this thru together. Regardless how long it takes. Beth keeps me going. Fearless. She has nothing left to fear.

(I HATE THEM ALL)


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« Reply #46 on: November 27, 2010, 01:41:09 PM »

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #47 on: November 27, 2010, 02:00:30 PM »



Excuse the repost

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=615.msg297225#msg297225

Dennis Jacobs ~ Lead Detective? Or Key Obstructionist?

   (snipped)

The steps Dennis Jacobs took to whittle down the content of Dave’s meeting with Paulus, and his addition of the not present Detective Soemer’s name to Dave’s statement, and the unbelievably bold steps he took to completely change Beth’s statement made us wonder.

What other statements did Dennis Jacobs manipulate?

What key elements could have been given by these various witnesses and suspects, that Dennis Jacobs may have tampered with?

Freddy Zedan
June 17, 2005
pages 6
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Freddy Zedan Arrambatzis
July 20, 2005
pages 4
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Freddy Alexander Arambatzis
February 10, 2006 17:15
pages 5
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: interrogation of a suspect

Jaime Alberto Carrasquilla
August 30, 2005
pages 5
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Stefany Mejia Cortes
August 23, 2005
pages 5 - attachments of photographs
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement/complaint

Stefany Mejia Cortes
August 24, 2005
pages 3
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement/complaint

Margaritha Dijkhoff - Van der Sloot maid - third statement
August 11, 2005
pages 3
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Judith Geerman
July 29, 2005
page 1
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Koen Gottenbos
August 30, 2005 18:30
pages 3
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Jose Anacleto Maduro
August 28, 2005
pages 5 - two photograph attachments
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement by a prison inmate

Wilfred Benito Maduro
February 14, 2006 16:00
pages 3
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Milangelo Jairo Ferdinand Marcano
September 10, 2005
pages 3
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

**Osman automotive Center employee statements

Osman Farouk Osman
July 20, 2005
pages 4
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement by an automotive Center employee

Osman Farouk Osman
August 6, 2005
pages 2
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement by an Automotive Center employee
**

Carmen Aurora Pacheco
August 29, 2005
pages 3
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Christopher Dangelo Peterson
September 10, 2005
pages 4
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Amanda Portocarrero
July 28, 2005
pages 2
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Carlos Penata Ramos
August 11, 2005
pages 1 - six attachments of boat crew list
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Carlos Penata Ramos
August 16, 2005
pages 2
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Franco S.P. Rivas
August 24, 2005
pages 4
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Leonardo Lopez Rivera - second statement
August 29, 2005
pages 3
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

***Dennis Jacobs same patsey that he used on Dave's statement is attached to this statement. Who really took this statement from Paulus and Anita van der Sloot?


Paul Van der Sloot and Anita Van der Sloot
December 5, 2006
pages 1
writer: Eric Soemers
description: witness statement



May 31 DEEPAK Dennis Dominico JACOBS and Shaniro Baldrik KELLY

May 31 SATISH Dennis Dominico JACOBS

June 16 SATISH,JORAN Dennis Dominico JACOBS, Juan Enrique Boezem, Luigi Angelo Giovanni Croes

June 30 SATISH Dennis Dominico JACOBS and Haydee Azucena NADAL

July 03 SATISH Dennis Dominico JACOBS and Haydee Azucena NADAL

June 5 A.JONES Dennis Dominico JACOBS, Jonathan Patrick ORMAN

June 17 JAMIE Carrasquilla Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES. Dennis Dominico JACOBS

June 20 ANDRE Dos Santos Dennis Dominico JACOBS and Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES

July 08 Solvert Reneska (SG) Dennis Dominico JACOBS and Zoraida Megaly de CUBA

August 11 WERLEMAN Dennis Dominico JACOBS and Eric Louis SOEMERS

June 9 JORAN Dennis Domenico JACOBS, Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES
June 10 JORAN Dennis Dominico Jacobs and Luigi Angelo Giovanni Croes
June 14 JORAN Dennis Domenico JACOBS and Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES
June 16 SATISH,JORAN Dennis Dominico JACOBS, Juan Enrique Boezem and Luigi Angelo Giovanni Croes
June 24 JORAN (2nd statement) Dennis Domenico JACOBS and Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES


*What answers could this victim’s family have received had someone other than Dennis Jacobs handled these key suspects and witnesses?

*What truths were hidden by Dennis Jacobs that could have helped this grieving family, and brought justice for the crimes against their beloved Natalee?

Natalee and her family deserve justice, and we will not let up until they have it!
Natalee’s Freebirds
http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/

Thanks Sharon!   

I haven't listened to much of these recordings at all, but this reminded me of something I heard in one of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wl71eShp0A

Daniel Young: In April of 06 we went back to Aruba, and Paul van der Sloot picked us up at the airport.  Julia Renfro came over with one of her colleagues, to Anita's house...and we (began?, or we'd been?) conversing back and forth...Anita...the police department, Eric Soemers... in Aruba. 

 

It's like the kid's game - connect the dots.

They think we are so 'stoopid'  We wouldn't notice. The intent to mislead and confuse. 

Hope you had a great Thanksgiving, TM.

We will all see this thru together. Regardless how long it takes. Beth keeps me going. Fearless. She has nothing left to fear.

(I HATE THEM ALL)


 
Sometimes I think that monkey with the shovel needs a "poop suit" on!   

The more digging that is done the more obvious it is just how much "do do" those miscreants are willing to spew in an attempt to distract from and/or cover up the dirty deeds on that hellhole!

No doubt in my mind at all that some of those "witness statements" are full of it too!

Wonder why Paul and Anita were giving a "witness statement" in Dec 2006, 18 months after Natalee disappeared...hmmm?   

We had a great Thanksgiving, I'm glad yours was good too!    

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


« Reply #48 on: November 27, 2010, 02:04:42 PM »

AVOID ARUBA AS IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT...IT DOES!!!
Justice for Natalee Holloway
Peace for her family and loved ones


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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #49 on: November 27, 2010, 02:11:39 PM »

We Never had a Chance

Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway

Page 189:
   It's the proverbial, Biblical conflict between good and evil.  It's very, very hard to fight evil because it constantly changes form and you never know who your enemies are.  And evil is always two steps ahead.  From the outset we never had a chance.  But we didn't know it

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Name: Beth Ann Holloway
Date: 01 June 2005 / 10:30
Pages: 5
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs / Shaniro Baldrik
Description: witness statement
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1.  The Statement

Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway

Page 76
:  Detective Jacobs says he will only take my statement, not the others.

Page 77:   At what seems like one letter at a time, Jacobs types in Dutch what I say to him in English.  It's tedious.  Arduous. Downright painful.  It's a very, very, very slow process ... 

I explain finding the car she was seen getting into parked at the van der Sloot home.  I review the dramatic encounter in the van der Sloot front year in the wee hours of Tuesday morning during which Joran described his sexual activites with Natalee as she was falling asleep and walking up.  Falling asleep and waking up.  How he described her as drunk.

Describing the reencactment that followed at the Holiday Inn, I relate how Deepak Kalpoe and Joran van der Sloot specifically showed me exactly where they left Natalee.  I give the names and include elaborate detailed physical descriptions of all those present for this demonstration.  I tell how Joran and Deepak said she stumbled and bumped her head, how she refused help from them and went inside the lobby.

For two hour I talk.  He types.  Jug comes in to check on me.  A little while later Jodi comes in, then leaves again.  I am still talking, and the detective is still typing.  I've been here for a total of four hours when we finally finish with my statement.

At the conclusion, Jacobs calls in another detective, a young uniformed officer, and gives him some verbal directions in Papiamento.  The young officer turns to me and begins to read my statement back to me, from Dutch to English.  When he gets to the last word he looks at me and asks, "Are these your words?'  And I respond in the affirmative.  But I am not allowed a copy.


2. Minor Revisions

Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway

Page 88/89:
  At the restaurant I order a meal, but only eat a bite or two.  The others have worked up an appetite, and the meal is a good time for everyone to regroup before the calls start coming in again tonight.  As dinner concludes, detective Jacobs appears at our table.  He’s holding official documents.  Surprised to see him here at ten o’oclock at night, we invite him to sit down, hoping he has some pertinent information about Natalee.  The detective says he just wants me to sign a new statement.

Jug immediately asks him, “What’s the difference between this one and one she gave you this morning?’

Jacobs says that some dates were wrong and have been corrected, and he needs my signature on the new corrected copy.

The document is in Dutch, which is Greek to me.  I have no idea what it says.  I can’t tell if it’s different from the one the young officer read to me this morning, which I signed, or not.  But all I have to rely on is the Aruban police process, so I gladly submit to his request and sign every single page.  Desperate, I will do anything they ask.  Maybe I can get a copy of this one.  I’ll worry about having it translated later.  For now, I will trust.


3.  Not my Words!!

Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway

Pages 187/189:
After waiting months to find out what my statement actually says, Jug calls on my first day in California. He has finally been able to obtain the translation of my statement from prosecutor Janssen. The one the detective brought to me to sign late that night in the restaurant. And I trusted him, and signed every page.

“listen to this, Beth …” The words he reads echo in my head. I begin to sink, and could slide to the ground out of my chair. “Jug, they changed it. They changed my statement.”

I had carefully given intricate details about the encounter in the van der Sloot front yard the first night we got to the island, including names and physical descriptions. Now Paulus van der Sloot is described only as “the man with the glasses.”

Those are not my words.

Earlier we learned from the prosecutor that the statements from the two uniformed officers who were with us in the van der Sloot front yard that morning didn’t mention the sexual encounters described by Joran between Natalee and him. No mention of his sexual contact with her as she was falling asleep and walking up. No mention of his description of her underwear and genitalia. So the judge never heard about all that.

There‘s no way a police officer could stand there that morning, hear what Joran was saying, and fail to include these details in a statement. No way. In my opinion this information must have been deleted for the officers.
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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« Reply #50 on: November 27, 2010, 02:32:58 PM »

Man shot in the abdomen.

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/24768-homber-tira-na-madiki-.html



Papiamentu translation:

man throw at madiki

saturday, 27 november 2010 14:56

at height of las caleñas at madiki saturday nightfall one man owing to wordo throw at his abdomen. ambulance owing to present n'e sitio y owing to transporta he of surname b. for hospital cu maximo urgencia. recherche owing to present n'e sitio y owing to cuminsa cu they investigacion. police is in buskeda now of the person cu owing to throw he, apparently one conoci of police. come across
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #51 on: November 27, 2010, 02:35:08 PM »

Hi Sharon

 

Thank you for the reminder.

It is important that SM members and guests reading the forum who do not have an indepth knowledge encompassing the corrupt Aruban investigation that has prevented justice from prevailing since May 30, 2005 are informed.

Somehow I do not believe that the Aruban tourists who found the jawbone would have turned it over to Aruban authorities ... without at the very least ... taken a photos of the find from every angle if one of them really comprehended.  I know you or I would have taken steps to ensure the truth was not covered up.

I hope you had a nice Thanksgiving.

Janet




 

Thanks, Janet. Time with family and friends is always nice for me -- especially when food and wine are involved 

I can not imagine doing anything of importance with anything Aruban without making it an official transaction with a jurisdiction outside of that craggy rock. Maybe with Switzerland, so the traitors can't use their anti-American agenda as a defense.

And yes -- you understand my intent exactly Smile  I'm thrilled that this cause continues to gain supporters -- but it is not reasonable to expect that newcomers have had the chance to be exposed to and digest the past 5 + years.



I believe that both Dave and Beth's respective books provide great foundational knowledge to build on encompassing the Aruban cover up agenda in the Natalee Holloway case.

My son purchased online five copies of each book at a very reasonable cost.  I am sending one set out to American friends as a Christmas present ... friends  who used our home as a base during the Winter Olympics.

Details encompassing the Natalee Holloway case had become a faded memory but when our friend made the statement ... "CRIME HAPPENS EVERYWHERE" ... my hubby gave me "the look" that implied it was best that I end the discussion. 

Janet

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ARUBA: THE TRAGIC UNTOLD STORY OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY AND CORRUPTION IN PARADISE
By Dave Holloway

Publisher: Thomas Nelson Publishers-Business (Mar 15 2006)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 1595550631
ISBN-13: 978-1595550637

LOVING NATALEE
A MOTHER'S TESTAMENT OF HOPE AND FAITH

By Beth Holloway

ISBN: 9780061452277
ISBN10: 0061452270
Imprint: HarperOne
On Sale: 10/2/2007

 
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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« Reply #52 on: November 27, 2010, 02:42:12 PM »

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/24764-homber-tur-na-sanger-no-kier-bisa-ta-ken-a-hinke-.html



Papiamentu translation:

man all at blood does not tell is that owing to hink'e

saturday, 27 november 2010 13:47

saturday marduga owing to come come across cu one man all at blood throw near of caminda at height of the crusada driemasterstraat y arendsstraat. is resulta cu one or more person owing to hinca he at his neck. but past owing to deny of tell police that owing to hink'e y pakico. ambulance owing to hib'e hospitaal for ricibi tratamento medico. come across
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #53 on: November 27, 2010, 02:53:11 PM »

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/24770-bob-harms-na-cabes-di-redaccion-di-bon-dia-aruba-.html



bob harms at cabes of redaccion of good morning (Bon Dia) aruba

saturday, 27 november 2010 15:38

entrante diaranzon now day 1 of december, the conocido bob harms, cu till recien was vocero of dr. horacio oduber hospitaal, will become boss of redaccion of good morning (Bon Dia) aruba. harms is enter for ocupa one function cu for much year the cas editorial caribbean speed printers not owing to fill, but owing to opta more bien in one "coordinador of redaccion".

bob harms owing to study periodismo at tilburg (hulanda) y at corsou owing to ocupa several function in organisacionnan periodistico.

so for example past owing to work in redaccion of extra, amigoe, new, tele curacao y for much year also at radio hooyer. have to menciona cu bob harms owing to funciona also in departamento of prensa of gobierno antillean. some year happen past owing to muda cu his family for aruba, where past owing to acepta the funcion of vocero at hospital. near of his work because; vocero, the was write one columna in Ñapa (amigoe) y in la prensa. also bob harms have one declaration of policy radial in weekend in cual the is toca musica antillean y somontuno at regal fm. dicho declaration of policy owing to become very popular y is count ; cu one audiencia big.

bob harms now have one reto new, because; boss of redaccion of good morning aruba for take away the medio of comunicacion at the siguiene level. the will have to follow on the maneho various of good morning aruba, compara cu the another matutinonan local cu always owing to believe in the same director is boss of redaccion also. ehempel bibo is jossy mansur at daily paper, toko winklaar at today morning y edmond croes at sun of people. the corant good morning aruba owing to nace at year 1992 y the time ey toko winklaar was director y alavez boss of redaccion.

at year 2003 toko winklaar y the cas publisher of good morning aruba, esta the compania caribbean speed printers owing to break they relacion of work y winklaar owing to cuminsa cu his same corant "awe mainta". but at good morning aruba they never more owing to fill the funcion of boss of redaccion, but owing to employ the name of coordinador of redaccion y also "executive editor". more bien caribbean speed printers owing to believe more in one sistema in cual is separa redaccion of another departamentonan y because; such owing to busca one gerente general for follow maneha the plant, the departamento of throw, distribucion, etc.

by some month happen caribbean speed printers owing to break they relacion of work in form abrupt cu grace mary maduro, that was gerente general y now john chemaly jr. self owing to follow at timon of caribbean speed printers. one of his first decisionnan is for restructura the corant y in this owing to opta for haci usage of the conocimiento y experiencia of bob harms for maneha the redaccion. according majority encuesta, good morning aruba is the of two corant more read at aruba after of daily paper. is estima cu daily paper (Diario) his circulacion is at least two times (2x) more much cu of good morning aruba.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #54 on: November 27, 2010, 03:04:27 PM »

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_81520.php

Google translation:

Risk of dengue epidemic continues

November 26, 2010, 24:46 (GMT -04:00)

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The number of dengue cases in one weeks time with 30 percent, they warn Health Minister Richard Visser (left) and an expert from PAHO Health.

ORANGE CITY - Since last week the reports of dengue has increased by nearly 30 percent. Moreover, the patients sicker than in previous years. Department of Public Health suggests that a press conference this morning. She continues to warn of an epidemic.

The reason the cases are more severe, because more than half the patients previously had dengue. Some have now even third time dengue. That says Maribel Tromp, Head of Epidemiology Department of Health. This leads to more hospitalizations and even patients who end up in intensive care.

Between October and November were 254 suspected cases of dengue reported in Infectious Diseases Department. Since last week, this number increased to 538. "Of 122 patients, dengue laboratory after officially adopted," said Tromp.

She indicated that these figures are not realistic enough. "We still get reports of dengue in later than desired, so we are starting behind the facts. Therefore, we urge physicians in particular to possible cases of dengue as soon as possible to report. If we have accurate figures available, we are able to get the right medications to order. Two weeks ago there were 80 applications within one week. We're setting up everything to avoid that in one weeks time, 100 reports in their diet. "According to Tromp got the government in 2008 and 2009 from 400 to 500 new registrations per week. The government also speaks of an epidemic of dengue cases in 1000 when they register.

Syringes
Yellow Fever Mosquito Control (GKMB) last week began spraying and told an employee at the press conference. They are currently working in North and Oranjestad. Near San Nicolas and Savaneta has been sprayed. Spraying is a last resort for the government against dengue epidemic. The eggs and larvae are not destroyed by the spray, only the adult dengue mosquitoes are thus slain. In order to ensure that no new mosquitoes added, breeding should be removed. During the press conference was again reiterated that all residents should ensure that by itself, around his own house.

PAHO
A specialist from the World Health Organization PAHO was this morning at the press conference. According to him, the Caribbean this year seriously affected by dengue. He talked about 100,000 cases of dengue across the Caribbean this year, while the normally around 20,000 cases. On Aruba it is relatively not too bad. According to the PAHO expert on Aruba is because this year has stayed pretty dry. "Only in the last two months is a lot of rain. You see the numbers of dengue in Aruba since dramatically increased. "
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #55 on: November 27, 2010, 03:08:08 PM »

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_81552.php

Google translation:

ARUBA

Coast Guard intercepted more than 60 kilos of drugs

November 27, 2010, 11:43 (GMT -04:00)



On board the fishing boat Colombian Katrina layers drugs. They were hidden in a hidden compartment.

ORANGE CITY - The Coast Guard in the Caribbean in collaboration with the Police Corps of Aruba (KPA) and the customs of an Aruba drugstransport intercepted. On board a fishing boat Colombian cocaine was 51.7 kg and 8.6 kg of marijuana were found. Six people were arrested.

The Colombian boat sailed under the name 'Katrina'. The vessel was en route from Colombia to Aruba. The Coast Guard took the boat that, based on information supplied by the international anti-drug organization JIATF-South. With the information was a boat from the Coast Guard stopped the Katrina when she entered the territorial waters of Aruba feed. The vessel was initially searched by Customs at Barcadera. Katrina was then transferred to the Coast Guard Savaneta foothold. Since the vessel was seized and was thoroughly searched. That research was done under the direction of the Public Prosecutor. During these searches drugs was found in a hidden compartment of the boat. The drugs were well hidden by the Coast Guard and it took over a while before the drugs were found. The drugs and the suspects are handed over to the Aruban authorities.

Combating illegal drug shipments by sea for both the Coast Guard and the Royal Navy one of the main tasks in the Caribbean. This fight takes place through international and local cooperation. The Aruban authorities have been trying for some years the growing crack down on drug trafficking. Last year, more than twice as many drug couriers caught, moreover, most of whom were drug smugglers. There were more people arrested (155 compared to 137) for drug offenses. In total, the police last year, 205 kilos of cocaine and 161 kilos of marijuana seized. Both types of drugs are by far the most popular, as confirmed by police figures in recent years.
The annual report of the Coast Guard last year show that last year 71.5 kilograms of cocaine and 84.9 kilograms of cannabis was seized. That was considerably less than in Curacao, where 513.2 kilograms of cocaine and 0.8 kilograms of heroin was intercepted and Bonaire, where the Coast Guard caught 412.5 pounds of cocaine. The latter was also a drug from the coast of Bonaire plane which crashed killing two were salvaged. Moreover, the number of significant amount of drugs seized over the previous year.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #56 on: November 27, 2010, 03:23:18 PM »

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_81520.php

Google translation:

Risk of dengue epidemic continues

November 26, 2010, 24:46 (GMT -04:00)

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Print this article 


 
The number of dengue cases in one weeks time with 30 percent, they warn Health Minister Richard Visser (left) and an expert from PAHO Health.

ORANGE CITY - Since last week the reports of dengue has increased by nearly 30 percent. Moreover, the patients sicker than in previous years. Department of Public Health suggests that a press conference this morning. She continues to warn of an epidemic.

The reason the cases are more severe, because more than half the patients previously had dengue. Some have now even third time dengue. That says Maribel Tromp, Head of Epidemiology Department of Health. This leads to more hospitalizations and even patients who end up in intensive care.

Between October and November were 254 suspected cases of dengue reported in Infectious Diseases Department. Since last week, this number increased to 538. "Of 122 patients, dengue laboratory after officially adopted," said Tromp.

She indicated that these figures are not realistic enough. "We still get reports of dengue in later than desired, so we are starting behind the facts. Therefore, we urge physicians in particular to possible cases of dengue as soon as possible to report. If we have accurate figures available, we are able to get the right medications to order. Two weeks ago there were 80 applications within one week. We're setting up everything to avoid that in one weeks time, 100 reports in their diet. "According to Tromp got the government in 2008 and 2009 from 400 to 500 new registrations per week. The government also speaks of an epidemic of dengue cases in 1000 when they register.

Syringes
Yellow Fever Mosquito Control (GKMB) last week began spraying and told an employee at the press conference. They are currently working in North and Oranjestad. Near San Nicolas and Savaneta has been sprayed. Spraying is a last resort for the government against dengue epidemic. The eggs and larvae are not destroyed by the spray, only the adult dengue mosquitoes are thus slain. In order to ensure that no new mosquitoes added, breeding should be removed. During the press conference was again reiterated that all residents should ensure that by itself, around his own house.

PAHO
A specialist from the World Health Organization PAHO was this morning at the press conference. According to him, the Caribbean this year seriously affected by dengue. He talked about 100,000 cases of dengue across the Caribbean this year, while the normally around 20,000 cases. On Aruba it is relatively not too bad. According to the PAHO expert on Aruba is because this year has stayed pretty dry. "Only in the last two months is a lot of rain. You see the numbers of dengue in Aruba since dramatically increased. "

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/24752-casonan-di-dengue-na-aruba-ta-subiendo-pa-siman-.html

Papiamentu translation:

casonan of dengue at aruba is subiendo for week

friday, 26 november 2010 20:11



the cantidad of casonan of dengue confirma at aruba is conociendo one aumento espantoso. sra. maribel tromp, boss of departamento of epimedologia y investigacion at departamento of salubridad publico owing to give of conoce cu for of week happen end aruba is in one estado of alerta for epidemia of dengue.

for of week happen for now, aruba owing to conoce one aumento of casi 30% of notificacionnan of the casonan of dengue. the casonan of dengue is birando day for day more y for week the cantidad of casonan is bay is redoblando. for of the overall of casonan registra, all week is count ; one cantidad of cuarenta caso new y if have to take six week happen till cu now here cu is bezig is monitor the situation of close, have one overall of 538 casonan notifica y 122 cu is confirma because; dengue. the others is clinicamente confirma esey kiermen cu the person have the sintomanan of dengue but is depende hour cu blood wordo take cu if the is leave positive or not.

is haci one call at the dokternan of cas y specialistanan cu is come across casonan of dengue for can please notifica at time y completo. actualmente the cantidad of casonan do not show high but esey is debi cu departamento of salubridad publico is ricibi they late y is cause cu is find one view not realistico of the situation. the cantidad of casonan cu owing to ricibi aid medico is more severo compara cu añanan anterior, this is debi cu the personanan owing to find dengue one or two trip end y is manifestando now here sintoma of hemoragia. for of the casonan cu have registra at the momentonan here more cu 50% owing to experencia one or more infeccion of dengue end.

in one week of time the cantidad of pashentnan hospitalis owing to aumenta cu 6 caso in one week of time y also casonan severo cu is wordo take at hospital. casonan more important have consecuencia much big for one person debi cu the can conduci till at dead. departamento of salubridad publico wanted evita mortonan in caso of dengue.

Maribel Tromp
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #57 on: November 27, 2010, 03:36:30 PM »

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_81548.php

Google translation:

ARUBA

"Officials ATA back to Aruba in April '

November 27, 2010, 11:43 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - Two officials working in the Netherlands for the department of tourism agency ATA must return to Aruba in April. That makes Tourism Minister Otmar Oduber (AVP) is known.

One of the two officials Oduber Charles, brother of former Prime Minister Nelson Oduber. Together with the other officer, he was recalled last year to Aruba because they would not perform. Then they exerted a lawsuit, which by Tourism Minister Oduber won.

According to the law governing the rights and obligations of civil servants is regulated (LMA), the government officials ployer bring it back. The two officers who Aruba House in The Hague professionals should return next April.

Moreover, they must re-apply because ATA tourist office is privatized and merged with Aruba Cruise Tourism (ACT) to the new ATA Sui Generis'. As this newspaper reported earlier, all officials and ATA ACT re-apply for a position in the new organization. Whoever is not adopted, will still have a year to an equal value function within the government to find. Failing that, there is a transitional arrangement whereby the officer three years while maintaining most of his salary can look for a job outside the government.



http://ata.aruba.com/jobs

Job Listing

Executive Assistant
HR and Change Manager
HR Assistant
Internal Control Associate

CMO
Marketing Assistant
Branding and Advertising Specialist
Digital Marketing Specialist
PR & Corporate Communications Specialist
Cruise and Niche Marketing Manager
Visitor Care Liaison
Trade Relations Manager
Trade Relations Liaison
ACB Conferences & Events Liaison
ACB Conferences & Events Assistant
Area Director
Management Assistant
Sales & Marketing Coordinator
Sales Representation

Manager Strategy, Planning & Research
Product & Research Specialist
Database Supervisor
Database Input Assistant

CFO
Chief Accounting
Accounting Clerk
IT / Facilities Officer
Receptionist
Payroll Assistant
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« Reply #58 on: November 27, 2010, 04:00:43 PM »

English version:

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_81537.php

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« Reply #59 on: November 27, 2010, 06:18:44 PM »

 

Father of three young sons killed, mother seriously injured by drunk driver (no mention of the drugs reportedly found in his truck too!), punishment is one year and three months in jail...and he loses his license for two years. 

http://www.diario.aw/2010/11/homber-cu-a-causa-accidente-tumando-bida-di-un-turista-canades-a-haya-1-ana-y-3-luna-di-castigo/

man cu owing to cause accidente tumando life of one tourist canades, owing to achieve 1 year y 3 month of castigo

publication: saturday, 27 november 2010. categoria: general

oranjestad(aan): jairo c.g owing to present fast of huez diabierna for listen veredicto of huez in his caso. j.g owing to wordo acusa of owing to cause one accidente while cu the was bao of influencia of alcohol, cu did take life of person. was one pareha canades cu the achieve his self in the accidente cu j.g, hour cu they owing to descend for of barco crusero y owing to huur one quadracer. huez owing to indica cu the pruebanan is cla y is show cu j.g was bao of influencia of alcohol y hour cu past owing to achieve one discusion in car past owing to core duro bay, without as cuenta cu the mature cu caminda was wet. according huez, at aruba everybody know cu hour caminda is wet, have to teen much cuidao. sinembargo j.g bao of influencia owing to core bay another near of caminda y owing to strike cu his car in the quadracer on cual was have two tourist. he owing to fayece y the muher owing to achieve heridanan earnest, for cual still the is wordo deal at his country. huez owing to dicidi of give the acusado one castigo incondicional of 1 year y 3 month, while cu the is lose his rijbewijs for 2 year y mey.

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http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/thestar/obituary.aspx?n=frederick-thomas-norman-tom&pid=142116000



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http://www.educationforthedrivingmasses.com/2010/04/london-family-shattered-by-death-of-tom.html

Friday, April 30, 2010
London family shattered by death of Tom Norman in Aruba
Source: London Free Press

ONTARIO - Tom Norman's identical twin brother Tim won't see the young boys yet.

He looks so much like Tom, the boys might get confused if he walks through the doors and into their house. Is daddy home? they might wonder. The twin brother can't take that risk, because daddy's not coming home. Ever.

Daddy -- Tom Norman -- was killed by a drunk driver in Aruba on April 16.

As his closeknit family, horribly injured wife Christine, and his many London friends mourn his loss, they are doing all they can to protect his sons. Cole, 6, understands what happened a bit. Trent, 4, a little less. Reed, 2, saw a photograph of his dad and his dad's twin brother the other day and said. "Two daddies."

So the twin brother, Tim Norman, stays away.

"He is a little bit worried about seeing them the first time," sister Kelley Norman says. "He doesn't want to confuse them. We're just not sure." Unsure as well of the boys' financial future, the family has just set up a trust fund for them.

Tom Norman was a test pilot at Diamond Aircraft and could get only minimal insurance because he was in a high-risk career, Kelley said. His wife Christine was working part-time and going to Fanshawe College before the crash that took her husband's life and smashed her legs and pelvis.

"She is pretty shattered," Kelley said. "She is in emotional and physical pain." Kelley is one of five Norman siblings with deep roots in London. She and her sisters, Tracy and Kristie, came first. Then came the twin boys, Tom and Tim.

"They were fabulous. They were terrible," Kelley recalls with a laugh. "Mom had a repeater plan at the hospital. They were there so often getting stitches or something."

The boys did everything with each other and to each other. They tried to put each other in the dryer and set it on spin. They proudly came into the family home on Lynngate Place one day and announced to their mother, "We finally broke every window in the garage."

An adventurous boy, Tom became a pilot as an adult. Along the way, he met Christine, a waiter at the bar his father owned across the road from Fanshawe College, Carey's Pub. His twin, Tim, met his wife, Stephanie, also a waiter at the pub.

Tom got a job at Diamond Aircraft, where as flightline supervisor he tested aircraft and did orientation flights for customers. About two years ago, Tom surprised Christine with a cruise vacation. But the couple learned she was pregnant with their third child, and delayed their plans.

This spring, they boarded the Caribbean Princess for their first vacation together.

Tom was like a little kid, Christine told the family after the crash. "He was so excited,' Kelley said. "He was roaming all over the ship, saying 'This is the life. This is the life.' They were just having a ball."

Four days into the cruise, the ship stopped in Aruba and the couple rented an ATV.

"They didn't even get out of the parking lot," Kelley said. A pickup truck hit them head on. Tom was killed instantly and Christine was thrown over the front of the truck. Aruba news reports state the driver of the truck was drunk and there were drugs in the truck. But the news reports also got Tom's name wrong, and the family is still waiting for the definitive word from Aruba police.

There is no mistaking, however, the impact of the crash.

"Christine is not doing well," Kelley said yesterday. The boys are afraid to visit the hospital and see their mother so injured. She had to lie helpless while others arranged for her husband's body to come home.

"Christine is devastated because Tom had so many plans for the boys," Kelley said. He had already taken them camping and started them skating. This weekend, the older two boys will start soccer. Tom had registered them before he left for the cruise.

"Anyone who ever knew Tom is devastated for these little boys," Kelley said.

"He will never walk back through the door and take them in his arms."

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http://www.normanfamily.ca/

May 18th, 2010



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http://www.normanfamily.ca/

May 30, 2010

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I then speak to Tom’s mom Sally…she tells me something that just breaks my heart…that when she goes to their house in St. Thomas, she will go in to the coat closet, and smell Tom’s coat, as it still smells like him…I lost it…as what an incredible hole this person, this drunk driver has placed on everyone!

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http://soonews.ca/viewarticle.php?id=26370

Recreating A Future For The Norman Family

Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 1:12PM   

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Details of the Tragedy

On April 16th, Tom and Christine Norman were vacationing in Aruba . They had just rented an ATV and before they had even left the parking lot, a truck driven by a drunk driver rounded the corner and hit them head on. Tom was killed instantly and Chris suffered serious injuries including a fractured hip and crushed pelvis.

Christine was airlifted back to Ontario where she has undergone extensive reconstruction surgery. She will be hospitalized for another few months and will require a hip replacement sometime in the future. It is not certain when Christine will be able to care for the boys on her own.

The truck driver was arrested but as it was a vehicle accident in a foreign country, the Canadian government will not get involved.

Tom was the supervisor of flightline and test flights at Diamond Aircraft in London ON . Because of Tom's career, he could not obtain life insurance. Christine worked part-time as an interior decorator.

The Norman family live in St. Thomas , but Tom and Christine (nee Payne) are well known in the Sault and St. Joseph 's Island where Christine and her brother Kalin Payne were raised. Christine 's mother Justine Howes and her father John Payne continue to live in the area.

Mike and Justine Howes (aka Nanny and Bubba) of Pte. Louise in the Sault were in St. Thomas babysitting their 3 precious grandsons when they received the news of the tragic accident and Tom's death. Currently the boys are being cared for by members from Chris and Tom's extended families in their own St. Thomas home.

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http://www.normanfamily.ca/

June 29th, 2010

Please join the Norman family for a tribute to Tom July 24, 2010

Now that Christine is out of the hospital, there is going to be a wonderful event to remember one of the most amazing men that there ever was…

The family wants to hold a tribute to Tom, and if you knew Tom, or would just like to pay your respects to the family, you are most welcome to join them for the tribute to his life, and for the family to be able to say goodbye together…

Date: Saturday, July 24th 2010

Time: 1:30 pm

Where: Diamond Aircraft Industries Inc.*
1560 Crumlin Sideroad,
London, Ontario, Canada N5V 1S2

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kelly says:
august 6th, 2010 saat: 5:27 am
hi christine
my son connor sat beside you and i sat beside tom on the bus to the cruise ship. i think about you quite often and wonder how you are doing. i have been reading online how you are coming along.
connor & i attended your sister-in-laws memorial for tom and i just want to say i was so overwhelmed by the love and welcoming shown to connor & myself – you have such an amazing family.
i wish i was part of your family and could do more for you, just know that you and your boys are thought of and will always be in my prayers.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA6Ajw069Lg

blueslover55 | August 15, 2010 | 2 likes, 0 dislikes
In April 2010, Tom Norman was killed in an accident while vacationing in Aruba. His wife Christine was badly injured in the same accident. The motorcycling community in St Thomas/London got together to raise funds to assist Christine and her boys (Cole, Trent & Reed).

All in all, we were able to collect about $3,000 to help out the family.

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http://www.aruba.com/forum/f7/assisting-family-victim-atv-accident-45556/index2.html

05-25-2010, 10:08 AM      #14 (PERMALINK)
DushiHeidi
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 287
The actual biggest strike of all in this whole thing is it being under dutch law. The guy that killed him will be walking on the streets one day. Its terrible.

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My guess would be that he'll be out doing the same thing before the first anniversary of Tom Norman's death.

Justice?  I don't think so!   

JMO

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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