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« Reply #60 on: November 27, 2010, 06:50:14 PM »

Christine Norman and her boys at the Benefit Ride for their family



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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #61 on: November 27, 2010, 07:25:48 PM »

http://www.saregion16.com/db_uploads/Sally_Norman_with_her_son_Tom.doc




ARUBA, Friday, 16 April 2010
 
Tom and Christine Norman had been married about 6 years when Tom surprised his wife with a cruise vacation - their first ever since they had met about 10 years previously.  Unfortunately but happily, their vacation was to be postponed another 2 years when Chris found out that they were expecting their 3rd child, Reed.
 
Tom was like an excited kid; running around the ship, marveling at the extensive buffets and all the activities, and just spending some well deserved time with his lovely wife.  They dressed up, dined and danced like a honeymoon couple.

Four days into the cruise, the ship docked at Aruba, where Tom and Chris disembarked to spend a few hours touring around the island.  They had just rented an ATV and were about to depart the rental lot when a brand new Dodge Ram pickup careened into them, head on.  The couple never saw it coming.  From all reports, Tom was killed instantly.  The force of the impact sent Christine over the front of the truck where she landed unconscious in a heap, her pelvis and leg shattered.
 
As the investigation unfolded, it was learned that the driver of the truck was drunk and had lost control of the vehicle.  The local newspaper reported  that drugs were found in the ashtray. After 3 days, Christine was airlifted back to London, Ontario where she remains in hospital, having undergone extensive reconstructive surgery to extract her leg from up inside her abdominal cavity and rebuild her destroyed knee and pelvis.  No one knows how she ever avoided internal damage to her organs.  Her family and friends are thanking God for sparing her life so that one day she can return to her boys.  Her emotional pain is all-consuming.  She has lost her lover and best friend, and the father of their children.
 
It's a heartbreaking tragedy that her youngest son won't remember what a wonderful father Tom was.  His older boys, Trent 4, and Cole, 6, have more of an understanding of what's happened, but anyone who ever knew Tom is devastated for these little boys, who will never walk back through the door and take them in his arms.
 
The man who killed Tom and shattered the lives of Christine and the boys is currently in prison for a minimum of 4 years.  His name is JAIRO GEERMAN and he is 30 years old.  He is a repeat DUI offender and the family has learned that, at the time of the accident, he was having an argument with a woman who was with him in the vehicle, not his wife.  He was previously employed at the airport, but was fired after having called in sick that day.

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #62 on: November 27, 2010, 09:50:58 PM »

Human bones washing up on the beach is good for tourism?  Really?   

And all that BS is on the same page with the story of an American drowning while in Aruba!   

http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_flippingbook&book_id=2



Papiamentu translation:

minister of turism y transporte otmar oduber
publicacion encuanto holloway not have none efecto on industry of turism of aruba


oranjestad – during ultimo dianan here, once more aruba was in publicidad at merca. is deal of caso of the child muhe perdi, cu is hayando enough atencion. of acuerdo cu minister of turism, the publicidad here not have efecto on aruba his turism. more bien, the will help aruba, for recorda esnan cu owing to forget one rato on aruba. the mandatario do not achieve necesario for defende aruba in the momentonan here, pear if did take some accion.

“e caso here is corda esnan cu owing to forget one rato on aruba, cu aruba t’ey” so the mandatario owing to cuminsa at tell. the imagen cu aruba have at merca actualmente not can stay dana. the propraganda at negative cu have actualmente do not haciendo nengun efecto. the titular of turism y transporte is believe cu turism is stay one business sensitivo. but aruba is stabiel stop in the mercadonan cu the is promocionando his self. is so cu office of turism of aruba is stay monitor the situation for cos not sitting-room for of hand. at the instant here is see cu the consecuencia of the informacion they on caso of the child muhe perdi not have efecto on aruba. the consecuencia is very minimo compara cu pasado. gobierno owing to give one notificacion of thing owing to sosode. this is take luga can medio of ministerio publico. this is one palabracion cu have cu the autoridadnan local cu all informacion is leave of om. also the notifica the same hendenan cu is work at office they of turism of aruba in exterior also. this for they're at height of thing is pasando. also owing to informa they of thing is the result of the investigacion. the informacionnan here not owing to bay for publico. behold not owing to feel none efecto negativeo on the asunto here.

the publicacionnan not owing to percura for none cancelacion y niether none preocupacion. cifranan of office of turism of aruba is show much good. september, october, y december is super good. november is bay is one month equal cu ana happen. for january y feburary have good pronosticonan. minister owing to indica cu they're on good caminda for cu the industry of turism. in parliament have some reto cu have to resolve for thing is deal the obligacionnan of mercadeo of another ana, for evita cu the have one efecto negative for another ana.

the titular of turism y transporte is of conviccion cu aruba is bayendo in good direccion. cualkier informacion cu leave of aruba internacionalmente will contribui at promociona the island. the mandatario is assure cu they're help at corda world cu aruba is existi. gobierno of aruba is percura if for analisa all informacion cu is leave, y if is necesario atende the asuntonan here, will hacie at his debido time. come across

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #63 on: November 27, 2010, 09:58:43 PM »

This is just a couple other reports of tourist drownings at Baby Beach this year, note in one of the comments the writer asked if there had been 4?  And another asked about putting up warning signs.

There have been other drownings at other beaches also. 

http://httwww.boletinextra.com/index.php/local-news/4142-turista-mericano-a-hoga-na-baby-beach.html

tourist mericano owing to hoga at baby beach

tuesday, 19 october 2010 19:33 3 comments

tuesday in oranan of nightfall owing to enter informe of one caso of hogamento at baby beach caminda here one are of person owing to trece one curpa without life at ground here of trip owing to despacha unidadnan concerni at the sitio. at arrival is come across cu he of edad naci at merca 13-09-1952 bao of the name robert b. caminda the was sambuyando y have to owing to confronta problem bao of lama y owing to hoga, at the sitio his wife was tey y also owing to constata dead of his defunto husband.

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#2 sandriman,a 2010-10-20 09:30
is cuanto (4) person owing to die hoga at baby beach? if my do not here is much, y if is so have to cada time make one ofesco of flower for her almanan! the door one bijgeloof but have tell cu almanan ranca is follow ranca. take the day of yesterday esta october 19 y all anja arriba the date ey ofrece one flower at the sea for her difunto they! paz at they remainder they. quote +4

#1 mr aruba. 2010-10-20 08:24
is cada rato have hogamento of tourist at the sitio here cu is sea keto y seco but is hour they leave of the mouth they're hoga;;; why do not place ad of the danger of corriente strong come across? eybow come across?



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tourist is hoga at baby beach

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at the momentonan here we owing to end of ricibi informe cu evictìma iche liu huang nasi at taiwan 20 december 1966 kedando at marriot hotel owing to fayece. dr woy loy sing come across.a constata dead 4or y 12 owing to cause of hogamento. slachtofferhulp is yudando the famianan. the was companja for his husband y two yiunan. paz at his restonan. come across
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #64 on: November 27, 2010, 10:08:28 PM »



Such a sad story, TM.
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« Reply #65 on: November 27, 2010, 10:46:57 PM »

http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_flippingbook&book_id=2



Papiamentu translation:

among one cambio cu ministerio publico will aplica according taco stein
in future will averigua at aruba self if one bone achieve, is one procedente of one being human first cu continue cu the investigacion y mande afor


oranjestad – after of the “circo” recien rondo the bone achieve on beach, ministerio publico owing to dicidi cu they will go actua various for evita situacionnan equal. they're conciente cu this will can crea one situation where cu can culpa they of do not actuando equal y cu same measure as the form con they owing to actua the week cu owing to happen. but according advocate general taco stein, ministerio publico not can afford for inverti so much coin again without cu have have to in one caso. that do not less afor cu all caso is important.

the form for evita cu one another future tourist can haci same y culpa ministerio publico of do not “fair”, is simplemente door of splica the tourist the procedura, y con they will actua in this. because; such the tourist will can compronde cu all caso is important, but cu they will deal they of such form cu the is wordo miho atendi without cu will crea one circus of media without cu have necesidad. this because cada actuacion so also is crea frustracion for her family of the person cu is relaciona cu the caso here.

in the caso particular here, is the family of natalee holloway have cu abide cada times cu resulta cu the caso is uno envano y cu was all one circus of media pornada. “pesei i am prefera cu the will was enberdad of holloway, for so the family at least is at peace cu the situation here y can close the capitulo aki” stein owing to follow tell.

of another near is contento cu one tourist owing to come fast y trece the bone. such algo civico of one ciudadano for trece his precupacion of algo cu the la achieve, cu can is algo.

the proceso con will actua in one future caso cu “bolbe” achieve one bone is various. will wanted evita cu can genera now one type of “turismo of weso” or one “turismo of desaster” where cu turistanan is probecha of the situation y is come cu one without end of obheto, keriendo cu the “por is algo of natalee holloway” y so busca they 15 minuut of fama internacional.

aworaki in future, will deal the caso various although cu the same importancia because cada caso merece his atencion. various is the trip here cu enves of core send one bone for exterior, will averigua at aruba self cu one patologo, if enberdad is deal of one bone human. if is determina cu the do not one bone human, do not follow cu the investigacion. simple. if the is, is continue cu the proceso.

if the bone pus is uno human, are you obliga for follow cu the investigacion. hour cu is deal of aberration, not have to tell the instant there cu owing to haci aberration. the trayectoria will not change. but is haci one another type of investigacion. stein is recorda cu is good for notice cu not had one caso so anteriormente. y in future will have again circumstancia cu is one caso high profile cu will become one circus of media. have casonan also of person cu owing to lose cu not owing to achieve atencion. does not tell if cu have casonan cu do not achieve atencion do not owrdo deal, y esunnan cu if achieve atencion, if is wordo deal. all caso is important according stein. cada caso is one drama y have to have atencion. for thing is the part publico, will deal this various. will not trece this in publicidad if none person know of dje yet.

if one tourist tell the hour cu is go compara his caso cu one another, is tell the tourist, con will go atende the caso y sigura the tourist cu the will achieve all atencion. the caso here owing to costa enough coin, y have cu see good first cu go back inverti the capital cu owing to haci in the caso here. in the caso here, as cu one caso have to wordo deal, have the asunto where cu one bone wordo achieve y the wordo entrega at police, the is become algo of husticia.

one bone so have to wordo deal also at once in one margen of evidencia. “no is so cu is immidiately coi one bone so y hinke in one saco of plestik y mande afo. in the caso here have to owing to transporta this cu two police for the netherlands, locula all owing to costa coin. y because; such for algo so go of the form there in future, have to have one siguransa cu enberdad is deal of one asunto cu can hustifica this. come across
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #66 on: November 27, 2010, 10:49:03 PM »


Yes it is so sad, and now they'll find out that Jairo Geerman will serve so little time! 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #67 on: November 27, 2010, 10:58:45 PM »

TM - I see the hogamento victim was Michael Hinton.

There was a Hinton involved with Bang Bus Inc - or the parent company in Florida. I think it should be in the archives if someone wants to check.

I think I have Hinton's photo in a bucket and that of his wife too, but I'll have to look later.

Maybe just a coincidence.
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« Reply #68 on: November 27, 2010, 11:08:49 PM »

http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6260&Itemid=1



Papiamentu translation:

owing to cuminsa deal caso penal contra advocate mr. duijneveld

thursday, 25 november 2010

mr. duijneveld

oranjestad - yesterday morning in sitting-room of corte owing to cuminsa cu tratamento of the caso penal cu ministerio publico owing to cuminsa for of year happen contra advocate mr. duijneveld. as good morning aruba owing to publica, mr. duijneveld, owing to apela the acusacionnan at corte superior caminda his colega mr. mohamed owing to wordo declara pound while cu the caso contra mr. duijneveld if is follow.

ministerio publico is acusa mr. duijneveld of actonan fraudulente for cu the asunto of bancarota of luis mansur. the is wordo sospecha of will owing to achieve cierto transaccionnan of coin without cu the curatornan was at height. yesterday morning the caso was more bien for listen the testigonan cu of near mr. emerencia cu owing to representa mr. duijneveld wanted owing to listen. among esnan cu owing to wordo listen was the curator van esh, vinck cu was envolvi in the bancarota of la cabana. in sitting-room of corte also was present brother of luis mansur, don mansur. also owing to listen sir michael williams y several another personanan cu will had of haci cu the compania of cobamento of sand of luis mansur.

after of owing to listen the testigonan here, at dado instant owing to dicidi cu is pospone tratamento because will wanted listen more witness of various country. owing to word cu will follow cu the interogacion day 10 of march 2011.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #69 on: November 27, 2010, 11:11:20 PM »

TM - I see the hogamento victim was Michael Hinton.

There was a Hinton involved with Bang Bus Inc - or the parent company in Florida. I think it should be in the archives if someone wants to check.

I think I have Hinton's photo in a bucket and that of his wife too, but I'll have to look later.

Maybe just a coincidence.


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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #70 on: November 27, 2010, 11:28:34 PM »

Navy helps intercept drugstransport Aruba
      - By Editor on 27/11/2010 @ 11:52
 
The Coast Guard, with help from the navy in the Caribbean Colombian fishing boat with over a hundred pounds of cocaine aboard intercepted. The drugs were hidden in a secret compartment, which they initially were not found. On board were six suspects arrested late Saturday Defence know.

The fishing boat named Katrina was earlier this week on its way from Colombia to Aruba. Based on information from an international drug organization in which the Navy also operates the boat was intercepted.

Customs at the port Aruban Barcadera initially could not find anything, so the boat was headed by the prosecution was thoroughly searched by a coastguard support to Marines barracks Savaneta. Then find the hidden compartment. There was 51.7 kilos of cocaine and 8.6 kilograms of marijuana hidden.Defence speaks of a "good example of international and local cooperation. The drugs and the suspects are handed over to local authorities in Aruba.

More than fifty kilos of cocaine intercepted. (Photo: Reuters)


http://frontpage.fok.nl/nieuws/417234/1/1/50/marine-helpt-bij-onderscheppen-drugstransport-aruba.html
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« Reply #71 on: November 27, 2010, 11:57:44 PM »

http://www.diario.aw/2010/11/antoni-gario-a-topa-e-mucha-muher-perdi-isabela-bennett-y-a-hibe-warda-di-polis/



Papiamentu translation:

antoni gario owing to come across the child muher perdi isabela bennett y owing to hibe keep of police

publication: saturday, 27 november 2010. categoria: general one aruban ehemplar

oranjestad (aan)* have to give the ciudadano antoni gario reconocemento at first lugar because; one person cu his curazon is at the lugar corecto y because; parent ehemplar the was preocupa cu desaparicion of the child muher. in this mirando cu the child muher owing to being perdi at san nicolas.

pesey the was super attentive for cualquier child muher d edad young cu the can see on caya. the was coriendo on the caminda of weg hill black for more or less 7:55 owing to.m. y dado instant past owing to look at one child muher is actua sospechoso.

hour the child muher of edad young dress in one camisa blanco y cu jeans color wine did take notice cu gario looking at the, eel owing to try of tapa his cara. past owing to cuminsa march lihe bay in direccion contrario y gario not owing to vacila y owing to bay cu his car y owing to deal of strobe for her follow march.

gario owing to descend for of his car y owing to as at his hand y owing to guia the child muher for his car. in car the child muher owing to admiti of is the child muher perdi y owing to give of conoce cu his name is isabela bennett.

on question of gario, that owing to haci one tremendo trabao without doubt, kico owing to happen cu isabela not owing to return his cas neither niether owing to acudi at lesnan of his school. at epb at san nicolas. isabela owing to contesta cu one gang of boy owing to hibe one caminda cu the not conoce, dus according the not can tell at where exactly past owing to worde take away.

do not conoci niether if is deal of one gang of student cu is bay epb or cu is deal of child hombernan cu is colga rond of school y cu do not haci mucho for life. isabela owing to cuminsa cry without stop hour cu gario owing to bise con all aruba is buscando the y cu his parents is abide much cu his desaparicion.

in one interview cu daily paper, gario owing to tell cu past owing to reconoce for his wowonan y also his nose already cu the potret of isabela owing to leave in all medio of comunicacion y past owing to become facil for reconoce. isabela owing to tell also cu the do not corda nothing kico can owing to sosode cune y here do not cla if past owing to worde drugs if or not or if past owing to worde abusa sexualmente if or not. isabela was much dirt, his pañanan dirt of sand y all descuida.

according gario the not owing to stay much cu isabela comokiera cu the trayetoria of maxi’s for keep of police is much cortico. cu the accion of gario here, past owing to alivia parents d isabela of follow abide for his desaparicion. isabela is in hand of police kendenan have the traba opa inteorge therefore asa that the gang of child hombernan here is cu mind maligno.

of part of daily paper we wanted felicita gario cu tremendo trabao y because; aruban past owing to demostra of help achieve the child muher y because; duty civico owing to entrege in hand of police. much good haci gario, keep it up!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #72 on: November 28, 2010, 12:43:09 AM »

MAY THIS THREAD SEE NATALEE HOME!!


I love this.  You can see Natalee as the shining star she always was and forever will be.  Thanks, CBB!

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« Reply #73 on: November 28, 2010, 12:59:41 AM »

I was somewhat taken back that this Canadian Monkey was not the only Monkey logged in this morning.  It was my understanding that ALL Americans are in the stores taking advantage of the Christmas sales.

 

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The present my son and I were receiving was given freely by our Lord.  It is the perfect weather and beautiful beaches here in America, with temperatures in the high 70s and low 80s.  Outside is where it is at for this American monkey, Janet.

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« Reply #74 on: November 28, 2010, 02:51:33 AM »




Justice for Natalee,



and Stephany!
 

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #75 on: November 28, 2010, 07:09:46 AM »

'One DEADly Island' ... 
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« Reply #76 on: November 28, 2010, 08:27:56 AM »

TM - I see the hogamento victim was Michael Hinton.

There was a Hinton involved with Bang Bus Inc - or the parent company in Florida. I think it should be in the archives if someone wants to check.

I think I have Hinton's photo in a bucket and that of his wife too, but I'll have to look later.

Maybe just a coincidence.

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« Reply #77 on: November 28, 2010, 08:48:21 AM »

For our new monkeys........and a reminder for all........the reporting of the Police investigation June 5, 2005 


http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/05/natalee-holloway-update-sunday-june-5/


Natalee Holloway, Update Sunday June 5
(Friends and family are invited to share or email us with any stories or accounts that you wish us to post. Our thoughts and prayers go out for Natalee Holloway and her family. )
1:00 am EDT According to CNN case being handled as a criminal investigation.

ORANJESTAD, Aruba (CNN) — Aruba police are treating the case of a missing Alabama high school graduate as a criminal investigation but still hope she will be found unharmed, a police spokesman said Saturday night. Natalee Holloway, 18, was on a senior trip with classmates when she went missing nearly a week ago. Rudie Soemers, night watch commander, said the effort to find her became a criminal case two days after her disappearance. The woman from the affluent Birmingham suburb of Mountain Brook was last seen leaving a nightclub called Carlos ‘n’ Charlie’s in the town of Oranjestad.

8:30 EDT The AP is reporting that 2 New People have Been Detained

SAN NICOLAS, Aruba (AP) - Authorities detained two men Sunday in connection with the disappearance of an Alabama teenager, who went missing nearly a week ago in Aruba while on a high school senior trip, the attorney general said.

Attorney General Caren Janssen called the men “suspects,” but declined to provide further details. They were not part of the group of three men who said they dropped off 18-year-old Natalee Holloway at the Holiday Inn in the early morning hours of May 30.

Police officers and three FBI agents, who are playing a supportive role in the investigation, took the two men into custody at two different houses in the southeastern town of San Nicolas, according to an AP photographer at the scene.

Police knocked on the door of one house, put the suspect on the floor and handcuffed him. Officers later detained a second man. They were both led to an unmarked police car and taken away.

Neighbors described the men as security guards who worked at a hotel closed down for renovation near where the blonde honors student was staying. Police and FBI agents searched the renovated hotel on Saturday.

An official close to the investigation, speaking on condition of anonymity, has said the three other men who are not suspects - legal Aruban residents between the ages of 18 and 25 - told police they had taken Holloway to Arashi beach on the northwestern tip of Aruba before dropping her off at the hotel.

10:00AM EDT

Video from MSNBC on the arrest of two suspects. (MSNBC hinting at recovery effort but unconfirmed.)

CNN Two men arrested not apart of original 3 men questioned.

ORANJESTAD, Aruba (CNN) — Police have detained two men in connection with the disappearance of missing Alabama high school graduate, the Oranjestad police chief said Sunday morning.

Chief Jan van Strantan said the two men are security guards at the Hotel Allegro near the Holiday Inn where Natalee Holloway was staying.

“They have been arrested as a result of investigations against them,” he said, although he would not say if they have been accused of a crime.

Aruba is a Dutch protectorate, and under Dutch law, police are not required to charge suspects immediately on arrest.
Oranjestad police and FBI agents detained the two men in separate operations at their homes about 7 a.m., police said.

The men, ages 28 and 30, were not among the three men in whose company Holloway was last seen.

Police also took three cars for “further technical investigation,” chief prosecutor Karen Janssen told CNN.

Police still are interrogating the men, she added. Janssen said could not give details about the questioning because the investigation was ongoing and other people might be arrested.

The men were seen leaving their respective houses calmly and without resistance. Police were seen later carrying bags out of the house.

10:15 AM EDT AP: Investigators seized three cars to conducting forensic tests on them.

SAN NICOLAS, Aruba - Authorities in Aruba detained two men Sunday in connection with the disappearance of an Alabama teenager, who went missing nearly a week ago while on a high school graduation trip, the attorney general said.

Caren Janssen called the men “suspects” in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, 18, but declined to provide further details. The men, who were not among the three described Saturday by police as “persons of interest,” were being interrogated Sunday morning.

Investigators also seized three cars and were conducting forensic tests on them, Janssen said.

“We are at this moment right in the middle of the investigation,” Janssen later told CNN. “There may be others involved. I can’t tell you the details why they are suspects. That would be damaging” to the investigation.
She would not say whether the suspects had provided information about Holloway’s whereabouts. A reward of about $50,000 is being offered for her safe return.

“We are continuing the search for the missing girl,” Janssen said.

11:30 AM EDT Clarion Ledger, “Teenager missing in Aruba careful, dependable, according to family”

It just goes to show you that one needs to be careful all the time. Especially when you are in foreign countries. There are bad things and bad people everywhere; please teenager (all for that matter) be careful and think. Just because nothing has ever happened to you in the past when you take chances does not make it safe.

Already a world traveler at 18, Natalee Holloway is nothing if not careful and dependable, relatives say. That’s why friends knew something was wrong when she failed to show up for the flight home to Alabama after a senior trip to Aruba.

“Natalee being late is a tipoff,” aunt Marcia Twitty said Saturday.

Now Holloway — with sparkling eyes, long blond hair, a dancer’s legs and a heart for service — is the focus of an all-out search in an island paradise just off the coast of Venezuela.

Back home, dozens of Holloway’s friends and classmates attended an afternoon prayer vigil Saturday. Stores are selling out of yellow ribbon as residents put bows on trees, mailboxes and doors all over Mountain Brook.

“The entire community is very concerned and very much in prayer,” said longtime city manager Sam Gaston.

Holloway, a Mississippi native, was known as a top student and tireless worker at Mountain Brook High School, where she graduated last month before leaving for Aruba with 124 other seniors. Twitty said seven adults went along as chaperone’s.

Holloway was in the National Honor Society, studied Spanish and was a member of American Field Service, which works with foreign exchange students. Her participation may have been a reflection of her travels, which Twitty said included trips to Europe, Canada and some cruises.

I have many personal accounts with the island of Aruba as I first went there 33 years ago. I dated an Aruban girl when I was in high school/college when I was the same age as Natalee. The difference being that the girl I dated had protective parents and her relatives on the island were a who’s who in Aruban government. It was also a more tranquil time back then as Aruba had not gotten to the glut of hotel expansion. The expansion of hotels and tourism meant that Aruba had to import help from many different countries and not just rely on Arubans. This is the biggest difference in the Aruba I used to know to the one that exits today.

Please kids, just be safe. I cannot reiterate using the buddy system when you are on vacation. Think first and pray for her safe return.

June 5th, 2005 at 08:42am Posted by Scared Monkeys | Natalee Holloway | 21 comments
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« Reply #78 on: November 28, 2010, 11:49:54 AM »

I was somewhat taken back that this Canadian Monkey was not the only Monkey logged in this morning.  It was my understanding that ALL Americans are in the stores taking advantage of the Christmas sales.

 

Janet




The present my son and I were receiving was given freely by our Lord.  It is the perfect weather and beautiful beaches here in America, with temperatures in the high 70s and low 80s.  Outside is where it is at for this American monkey, Janet.

 sunny sunny sunny



Bearly ... I am jealous.  For the past couple of weeks we have have had freezing temperatures ... snow and ... now rain.  It is an effort to leave my toasty warm home.   

Hubby made a comment yesterday about the two of us taking off to a warmer climate for Christmas next year.  I responded by telling him that Christmas would not come if there was no snow or rain.

Have a good Sunday Monkeys

Janet
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
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« Reply #79 on: November 28, 2010, 12:16:42 PM »

Thanks Sharon.

The articles you posted reveal that the investigators determine early on that the disappearance of Natalee is a criminal case.  The security guards are arrested ... not the three who lied regarding their last moments with Natalee Holloway.

Have a good day Sharon.

I am off.

Janet
9:15 AM PT

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The Definition of Frustration!

'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for Dec. 5th
updated 6:18 a.m. PT, Tues., Dec. 6, 2005


BETH TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: ... Remember, within the first 24 hours, we knew who the suspects were. We knew the persons that Natalee were taken from Carlos and Charlie‘s. We knew the license plate of the gray Honda they placed her in. We knew the condition that Natalee was in. We knew the behavior or the conduct in which they engaged in with Natalee.

And then not only that, Jane, within 72 hours, we knew that their first story was totally fabricated, that within the first 72 hours, I faced a room of 12 -- at least 12 detectives, Aruban and Dutch detectives, and a lead detective, Dennis Jacobs (ph), and they knew after we reviewed video footage from the Holiday Inn casino lobby that my daughter had never been brought back to the Holiday Inn. They knew that those suspects were fabricating a story from day one.

Well, Jane, something that the family knew—and we have to keep reminding everyone—after 72 hours -- 72 hours—we knew definitively that these suspects were not telling the truth. We knew that my daughter had never been brought back to the Holiday Inn. Of course we were becoming frustrated. Who wouldn‘t, at this point? You know, we—and what was so unbelievable about this, is they knew this information and still chose to pursue the two security guards on June the 5th.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10348437/


'Scarborough Country' for Oct. 21st
updated 10/23/2005 4:46:55 PM ET


BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: They never—they never wanted to implicate these three young men.  They never wanted to implicate them from the beginning. ....

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9796403/from/RL.2/


Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
 
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  Natalee never returned to the Holiday Inn. We had seen the tapes with a room full of police officials.  These two security guards also do not appear on the Holiday Inn security videos that we were shown.  So why these arrests?  Islanders are outraged.  And so are we.  It’s blatant discrimination.


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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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