Home
Blog
Radio
Missing Persons
Crime
March 28, 2024, 06:14:02 PM
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
News
:
NEW CHILD BOARD CREATED IN THE POLITICAL SECTION FOR THE 2016 ELECTION
Home
Help
Login
Register
Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum
>
Natalee Holloway
>
LCD Archive
> Topic:
Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #854 11/26/10 - 12/30/10
Pages:
«
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
»
Go Down
« previous
next »
Print
Author
Topic: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #854 11/26/10 - 12/30/10 (Read 399398 times)
0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.
Tamikosmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 37229
Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #854 11/26/10 -
«
Reply #100 on:
November 29, 2010, 12:01:44 PM »
Does Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez have his Eye on Aruba? Talk about bad for their Economy
Posted February 23, 2007 by Scared Monkeys
If anyone wants to wonder why the US government never got more involved in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway and why they did not take Aruba to task, they need only to look to the unstable leader of Venezuela for their answer. Hugo’s actions directly affect American’s homeland security decisions.
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/02/23/does-venezuelan-president-hugo-chavez-have-his-eye-on-aruba-talk-about-bad-for-their-economy/
Logged
Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
Tamikosmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 37229
Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #854 11/26/10 -
«
Reply #101 on:
November 29, 2010, 01:18:31 PM »
Does Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez have his Eye on Aruba? Talk about bad for their Economy
Posted February 23, 2007 by Scared Monkeys
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/02/23/does-venezuelan-president-hugo-chavez-have-his-eye-on-aruba-talk-about-bad-for-their-economy/
Rudy Croes … Aruba Breaks Ties with Netherlands
Posted June 2, 2007 by Scared Monkeys
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/06/02/rudy-croes-aruba-breaks-ties-with-netherlands/
Logged
Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
2NJSons_Mom
Monkey All Star
Offline
Posts: 11324
Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #854 11/26/10 -
«
Reply #102 on:
November 29, 2010, 03:39:45 PM »
Natalee's Candles
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5700.0
Logged
R.I.P Dear 2NJ - say hi to Peaches for us!
I expect a miracle _Peaches ~ ~ May She Rest In Peace.
SOMEONE KNOWS THE TRUTH
None of us here just fell off the turnip truck. - Magnolia
Tamikosmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 37229
Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #854 11/26/10 -
«
Reply #103 on:
November 29, 2010, 03:58:51 PM »
Tim Miller/Dave Holloway - The Persistence Connection
1. Tim states in a Greta interview that Louis Schaefer and John Silvetti contacted him regarding the Persistence search.
2. Tim states in a Jamie Colby interview that Louis Schaefer contacted Dave Holloway.
Janet
++++++
Natalee Holloway: Tim Miller of Texas EquuSearch Discusses Crab Trap, Clothing and DNA Found in Waters of Aruba
Posted February 27, 2008 by Scared Monkeys
"I've been trying to put this together for two and a half years ...
Louis Schaefer came forward with John Silvetti
."
Transcript - texasmom
Video:
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/02/27/natalee-holloway-tim-miller-of-texas-equusearch-discusses-crab-trap-clothing-and-dna-found-in-waters-of-aruba/
Fox Online - Jamie Colby
July 15, 2007
JAMIE COLBY, HOST: Tim, why are they (Arubans) standing in your way?
TIM MILLER: I don't think they can stand in our way. With the equipment we got and if we have to go in off of Venezuela. Wherever we need to go into, we've got the equipment. In fact they are more than welcome to be on the ship with us. The ships that we are taking over are a 265 foot ship and a 340 foot ship which have all the latest technology on it.
In fact the owner of this company, Louis Shaeffer of Superior Offshore International, Louis called Dave Holloway up about two months ago when I was at Louis' house.
He said "Mr Holloway, I'm going to promise you something, if your daughter is in a metal container out there in that water, we are going to bring her home."
Logged
Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
Leroy
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 3556
Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #854 11/26/10 -
«
Reply #104 on:
November 29, 2010, 06:27:53 PM »
O/T -- TM
, you have a post here that you may not have seen
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6579.380
Logged
Faith . . . it matters . . . it really does. ~ Sister
texasmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 32402
ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!
Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #854 11/26/10 -
«
Reply #105 on:
November 29, 2010, 06:41:23 PM »
Quote from: Leroy on November 29, 2010, 06:27:53 PM
O/T -- TM
, you have a post here that you may not have seen
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6579.380
Thanks Leroy!
Logged
I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
klaasend
Administrator
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 74276
Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #854 11/26/10 -
«
Reply #106 on:
November 29, 2010, 07:29:40 PM »
National Enquirer scanned by San - Thanks San!:
Corrected order of pages
«
Last Edit: November 29, 2010, 08:23:34 PM by klaasend
»
Logged
texasmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 32402
ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!
Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #854 11/26/10 -
«
Reply #107 on:
November 29, 2010, 08:11:44 PM »
Thanks San and Klaas!
This is the article I'd posted in the last thread...I didn't have the cords I needed to scan and post it so I'd typed it out.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8987.msg1268648#msg1268648
Natalee was buried alive - that's the shocking conclusion of investigators after a female human jawbone was found near a swamp in Aruba, where Alabama teen Natalee Holloway disappeared, insiders revealed to The Enquirer.
In a tragedy that stunned the nation, Holloway vanished without a trace in 2005 during her high school graduation trip to the island - where she was last seen leaving a bar with Dutch teenager Joran van der Sloot.
Her sudden disappearance baffled authorities for years, but discovery of the jawbone - even though it wasn't immediately identified as Natalee's - triggered an explosion of renewed activity by investigators who have finally pieced together a scenario for Natalee's terrifying last minutes...and her grisly death. In another bombshell, van der Sloot blurted out in prison that the remains of FIVE other bodies are still to be found in the same area of Aruba, a close source tells The Enquirer.
Soon after tourists stumbled upon the jawbone on Nov. 12, it was identified as being from a young white woman. Incredibly it was found next to a swampy area where van der Sloot had previously admitted to burying Natalee's body - and even drew a map of the spot!
Stunned by the discovery, investigators have been taking a new look at previous taped confessions from Joran - which had been dismissed as the lies of a psychopath - and uncovered chilling clues indicating the beautiful blonde cheerleader could have been buried alive!
Joran - already imprisoned in Peru for the brutal murder of 21-year-old student Stephany Flores - was informed of the jawbone find by his Peruvian attorney.
Incredibly, the cold-hearted thug started laughing!
"He just sneered and tried to laugh it off as if it was nothing," a close source told The Enquirer.
But then the twisted killer bragged to a prison guard: "There are at least FIVE more bodies out there.
It's no secret on the streets that the bad guys dump bodies in that swamp. I mean mobsters and drug dealers - that's what they do to their victims. This bone could be from any one of them."
The source added: "No one knows whether to believe him, but he wants to be the big man in prison - always the center of attention."
Joran loves to taunt authorities with mind games, but he might be outsmarting himself. Investigators analyzing Joran's previous confessions say they've come up with "tantalizing nuggets of truth" hidden between his lies.
In 2008, Patrick van der Eem, a Dutch undercover investigator who'd befriended Joran, secretly filmed him as he talked openly about Natalee's final moments. Joran divulged he and the perky blonde enjoyed a wild night of drinking and then had a tryst on the beach - where she suddenly went into convulsions.
Investigators believe she was possibly slipped a date-rape drug.
Instead of calling for medical help, Joran said he and a friend disposed of Natalee.
Van der Eem asked him: "How were you so sure she was dead?"
In a horrifying admission, Joran replied: "I wasn't (expletive deleted) sure about that...but it really scared me to death."
When van der Eem suggested that Natalee was alive and simply in a coma when they buried her, the steely-eyed brute coldly and unemotionally answered: "That's very possibly."
Poring over the confession, investigators revealed that despite the fact "Joran is a skilled liar, he sprinkles his lies with tantalizing nuggets of truth so that his stories are impossible to prove- while remaining plausible."
Their analysis of his chilling words paints a shocking picture of Natalee's demise - that she was buried and left to die in a filthy, boggy swamp.
"If she wasn't unconscious, imagine the horror that young girl went through in her final minutes," said the close source. "That monster doesn't even know if she was dead. He had her buried anyway!
"Poor Natalee could have been in and out of consciousness as she was dragged to her grave. She could have been aware she was being buried alive and unable to fight off this evil man!"
Added an insider: "It's horrifying to think Natalee might have been aware of what was happening to her - but was unable to stop it."
Dutch experts leaped into the investigation in mid-November shortly after the jawbone's discovery. They began comparing the bone, which still had a single molar intact, with Natalee's DNA and asked her father Dave Holloway to send them her dental records by overnight courier.
"Devastating as it was, he became hopeful it meant he'd finally be able to bring Natalee home," a friend told The Enquirer.
For investigators, the bond held out new hope of nailing Joran for Natalee's murder.
It was discovered on a beach next to a wetland wilderness area - which Joran had pinpointed on a hand-drawn map as Natalee's final resting place.
Joran prepared the map for Dutch journalist Jaap Armesz, who befriended him when he was in Holland two years ago and did a series of taped interviews with him.
As The Enquirer revealed in an earlier blockbuster story, the journalist turned over the map to the Holloway family.
The wetland area adjoining the ocean, called the Bubali Bird Sanctuary, is usually flooded with treated water from Aruba's sewage processing area.
But experts say heavy storms in recent months raised the water level of the sanctuary and could have washed bones from a skeleton buried there into the sea - and the jawbone could have washed back ashore, where the tourists discovered it.
"There's no question where the jawbone came from - it was found very close to where the bird sanctuary waters empty into the ocean when they're high enough," private investigator Art Wood told The Enquirer.
Wood, a former U.S. Secret Service agent who investigated Natalee's disappearance for her family, confirmed: "On the map, Joran marked an area where he said he and a friend left Natalee's body after she died."
The Arubans had conducted a superficial investigation of the area and found nothing, but once he had the map, Dave Holloway pressured the government to conduct a major search.
Authorities in Aruba - who don't want to scare away their tourist trade - point-blank refused to let the planned search proceed.
Aruban prosecutor Taco Stein admitted to The Enquirer: "We never thoroughly searched the Bubali pond area. We looked there, but there was never an exhaustive search."
Joran's secret "graveyard" might contain the bodies of other women who have vanished in or near Aruba, for decades a smoetimes - fatal magnet for the young and beautiful.
Amy Lynn Bradley was 23 on March 24, 1998, when she disappeared off a cruise ship, which left Aruba headed for Curacao. She remains missing to this day.
Nevina Labouovic was sailing with her family near Aruba in 2001 when the entire family and the boat disappeared.
Said a source close to the investigation: "Joran's claim of knowing about five more bodies has investigators puzzled and wondering if he is responsible for the deaths of other women who might be buried near Natalee."
By John Blosser
and David Wright
Logged
I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
klaasend
Administrator
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 74276
Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #854 11/26/10 -
«
Reply #108 on:
November 29, 2010, 08:24:27 PM »
OMG TM - I hadn't seen that you typed it out! You are too good!
Logged
texasmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 32402
ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!
Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #854 11/26/10 -
«
Reply #109 on:
November 29, 2010, 08:44:52 PM »
Quote from: klaasend on November 29, 2010, 08:24:27 PM
OMG TM - I hadn't seen that you typed it out! You are too good!
Thanks Klaas!
Logged
I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
2NJSons_Mom
Monkey All Star
Offline
Posts: 11324
Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #854 11/26/10 -
«
Reply #110 on:
November 29, 2010, 08:49:26 PM »
Quote from: klaasend on November 29, 2010, 08:24:27 PM
OMG TM - I hadn't seen that you typed it out! You are too good!
I hadn't either, but apparently someone did & sent it to Rene Gielen, who posted it on Tito's FB page.
Logged
R.I.P Dear 2NJ - say hi to Peaches for us!
I expect a miracle _Peaches ~ ~ May She Rest In Peace.
SOMEONE KNOWS THE TRUTH
None of us here just fell off the turnip truck. - Magnolia
texasmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 32402
ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!
Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #854 11/26/10 -
«
Reply #111 on:
November 29, 2010, 09:19:46 PM »
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on November 29, 2010, 08:49:26 PM
Quote from: klaasend on November 29, 2010, 08:24:27 PM
OMG TM - I hadn't seen that you typed it out! You are too good!
I hadn't either, but apparently
someone did & sent it to Rene Gielen
, who posted it on Tito's FB page.
Maybeeeeee Annnnnniiiiitttttaaaaaa!
Logged
I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
Tamikosmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 37229
Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #854 11/26/10 -
«
Reply #112 on:
November 29, 2010, 09:44:31 PM »
Quote from: texasmom on November 29, 2010, 08:11:44 PM
Thanks San and Klaas!
This is the article I'd posted in the last thread...I didn't have the cords I needed to scan and post it so I'd typed it out.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8987.msg1268648#msg1268648
<snipped>
The Arubans had conducted a superficial investigation of the area and found nothing, but once he had the map, Dave Holloway pressured the government to conduct a major search.
Authorities in Aruba - who don't want to scare away their tourist trade - point-blank refused to let the planned search proceed.
Aruban prosecutor Taco Stein admitted to The Enquirer: "We never thoroughly searched the Bubali pond area. We looked there, but there was never an exhaustive search."
<snipped>
By John Blosser
and David Wright
I do not believe that Natalee Holloways remains are in the Bubali swamp but it appears that Aruban authorities are not even going through the motions of an investigation.
Dave Holloway was requested by Aruban Authorities FOUR MONTHS AGO to delay the search of the Bubali Bird Sanctuary ... claiming that an official search was forthcoming. According to Taco Stein words to the National Inquirer that official search has not yet happened.
Janet.
+++++
Arubans urge Holloway's father to delay search during Peruvian probeBy the CNN Wire Staff
June 17, 2010 5:22 p.m. EDT
(CNN) -- Aruban authorities are urging Natalee Holloway's father, Dave Holloway, to delay volunteer search efforts in her disappearance until police get better information on the case from Peruvian investigators who have spoken to Joran van der Sloot, prosecutor Peter Blanken said.
Police do not want their investigation jeopardized or possible evidence contaminated in the Bubali Bird Sanctuary, a swamp area where Joran once said he dumped Holloway's body, Blanken said. Aruban authorities wish to search a more focused area once they receive more information from van der Sloot and his laptop, which may include files linking him to the Holloway disappearance.
<snipped>
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/17/aruba.van.der.sloot/
Logged
Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
texasmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 32402
ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!
Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #854 11/26/10 -
«
Reply #113 on:
November 29, 2010, 10:40:18 PM »
For anyone that's interested, I've posted some recent articles over in the oil and gas pipeline info thread.
It's not an area I know a lot about, but I can't stop thinking about some of the things I've read.
I think they could be important.
JMO
Logged
I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
texasmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 32402
ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!
Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #854 11/26/10 -
«
Reply #114 on:
November 29, 2010, 10:41:23 PM »
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on November 29, 2010, 03:39:45 PM
Natalee's Candles
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5700.0
Thanks for the reminder 2NJ!
Logged
I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
texasmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 32402
ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!
Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #854 11/26/10 -
«
Reply #115 on:
November 30, 2010, 12:48:16 AM »
Justice for Natalee,
and Stephany!
Logged
I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
jen3560
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 3338
Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #854 11/26/10 -
«
Reply #116 on:
November 30, 2010, 09:54:30 AM »
Quote from: texasmom on November 29, 2010, 10:40:18 PM
For anyone that's interested, I've posted some recent articles over in the oil and gas pipeline info thread.
It's not an area I know a lot about, but I can't stop thinking about some of the things I've read.
I think they could be important.
JMO
I think you could be right. And THANK YOU TxMom!
Logged
2NJSons_Mom
Monkey All Star
Offline
Posts: 11324
Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #854 11/26/10 -
«
Reply #117 on:
November 30, 2010, 10:29:40 AM »
Quote from: texasmom on November 25, 2010, 09:28:34 PM
Another tourist drowns at Baby Beach. They
suspect
that he had a heart attack.
http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/24693-turista-a-hoga-na-baby-beach-.html
tourist owing to hoga at baby beach
thursday, 25 november 2010 21:04
today tardi more or less 2or police owing to atende one call of one caso of hogamento at baby beach. at arrival of the unidad policial berdad owing to come come across cu one curpa of a
man cu not was give sign of life. for more or less 3:55pm dr. kiewiet owing to constata dead natural of michael hinton, naci at merca of 72 year of edad y hospedando together cu his family for the time being at divi village.
is sospecha cu the victima will owing to find one ataca of curason during cu the was landando.
bureau slachtofferhulp owing to present at the sitio for give sosten y yudansa at famianan of the fayecido. paz at his restonan.
Norfork man dies while in
Aruba
November 30, 2010
NORFORK — Norfork Recorder/Treasurer Donna
Hinton's husband, 72-year-old Michael Hinton,
died last week while the couple was vacationing in
Aruba, according to Norfork Mayor Jim Reeves.
Reeves said the couple was swimming in the ocean
when they were struck by a wave. Michael Hinton
thought his wife was in trouble and apparently
drown while trying to help her, Reeves said.
"We're trying to figure out the best way to help her,
to support her," Reeves said.
According to Aruba media reports, Hinton died at
Baby Beach near the Divi Village Golf & Beach Resort
on Thursday. Funeral arrangements for Hinton are
pending with Roller Funeral Home.
— From staff reports
http://www.baxterbulletin.com/article/20101130/NEWS01/11300322/1002/rss
Logged
R.I.P Dear 2NJ - say hi to Peaches for us!
I expect a miracle _Peaches ~ ~ May She Rest In Peace.
SOMEONE KNOWS THE TRUTH
None of us here just fell off the turnip truck. - Magnolia
klaasend
Administrator
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 74276
Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #854 11/26/10 -
«
Reply #118 on:
November 30, 2010, 12:29:29 PM »
You would think at Baby Beach they would have lifeguards and this type of thing wouldn't happen.
Logged
Tamikosmom
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 37229
Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #854 11/26/10 -
«
Reply #119 on:
November 30, 2010, 01:07:34 PM »
Kermit
You never identified who "The Leak" was ... "The Leak" who revealed what was going on behind the scenes prior to you submitting your first post to the SM Forum regarding the mapping for oil by the Persistence.
This wannabe detective who chooses to focus on Kyle Kingman's own words may be slow but ... two years later I think she has finally figured out the identity.
Janet
+++++
Kermit
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
« Reply #479 on: July 22, 2009, 04:51:14 PM »
From: j.silvetti@xxxxx
To: capslockwizard@xxxx
Subject: RE: Question?
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:39:18 -0600
Caps,
Hello my friend. It has been a long time. I do not know what the Ocean Explorer is. If it is a vessel, it is certainly not mine. I do not know who Kermit is and I can tell you that since the crew members are employees of mine, mostly, except for the contractors who signed non-disclosure statements and other 3rd Party company personnel, it does not make sense.
0A
There were stories which were addressed in an interview with Ein Vandaag regarding our boat searching for oil before the vessel ever left the U.S. I have not addressed any of these bullshit artists as I do not feel that the effort which was put forth by so many of us regarding the search and all that continues to take place in support of finding Natalee’s remains are worth addressing. The problem is that these people have nothing else to do but stir the pot. They really need to get a life and put their efforts towards helping in the search.
I would like to see this photo of a man in a red shirt on the boat. I have not seen it. Could you please forward it to me. I am sorry to hear that you and our group is being dragged in the mud by these people. I was told of this last week, but, have chosen not to respond to people like this. We know what we did and what we are doing. That is good enough for me and the Holloway family. As for that supposed skull in the cage, that is all bull and quite frankly, I believe you r initial story of what that cage was being used for is probably correct.
Someday, hopefully, we will find her and all this garbage will be put to rest. By the way, have you spoken with our friend? I have sent him several emails with no response. Please ask him to call me.
Best Regards,
John
From: Caps Lock [mailto:xxxx
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 12:15 AM
To: John Silvetti
Subject: Question?
Hi John, hope everything is well,
Long time not hearing anything about the Ocean Explorer. but last night I went to the SM forum, where I found someone called KERMIT, who is stateing 3 of the crew member are traitors..
I was in shock to see that your name is one on the names mention.
Other thing that was mention was that your company where not searching for Natalee, but where doing a survay for Oil exploration on the bottom of the ocean around Aruba.
I Just want you to know that it seems to be that this Kermit has some info that show that your company are dealing in corruption.
There is a photo circulating that show a man in a red T-shirt on the boat and they are claming that that is an FBI agent.
They are also saying that the Skul was Human skull., I did asked you and you told me that there was noting in=2 0the cage.
I know there was an incident with Tim , but the detail I do not remember....
Please John, I hope it is not so..please let me know....I just wanted to defent you, since they are saying that CAPS is related to the OE and Silvetty corrption
Hope to hear from you,
CAPS...
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
FIRST: look at the dates. We have Silvetti telling Caps email dated Nov 24, 2008 asking about him searching for OIL, right???
BUT I do not post that information unil Feb 17, 2009
HOWEVER, THE EMAIL THAT YAPPERS REC'D FROM LALASMOM WAS DATED NOV. 22, 2008 - TWO DAYS AFTER LALASMOM/YAPPERZ HAD EMAILED JUG AND HE TOLD THEM SCHAEFER SAID THEY WERE MAPPING FOR OIL!
SO HOW COULD CAPS TELL JOHN SILVETTI IN AN EMAIL THAT IT WAS I WHO POSTED THAT JOHN WAS SEARCHING FOR OIL, WHEN IN FACT, IT WAS LALASMOM THAT EMAILED JUG AND JUG TOLD HER!!!!!
« Reply #776 on: February 17, 2009, 01:50:50 PM »
Sat Nov 22, 2008
Here is a snippet from an email I [THE LEAK]rec'd from Lalas.
"I asked Jug about Schaeffer...he is the oil guy. He was the one that provided the cash to get down there. Silvetti knew he would get more business from Schaeffer if he mapped....
while they were looking...the ocean floor. All the crew was asked to do was look for Natalee or anything suspicious as in small things like a cage or bones or whatever.
They do a large mapping process while they are looking for the details.
Schaeffer would use the large mapping of the general layout of the ocean floor
to further look for oil...etc...while they looked for Natalee too.
Silvetti was the one that offered to look for Natalee and not Schaefer.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4515.msg676709
SECOND: Caps is telling John in the email that the man in the red shirt is FBI. When, in fact, that is not what people said. They said it was JOHN SILVETTI in the red shirt.
I think CAPS specifically mentions this to John Silvetti in the email to see if John lets him know if there were any FBI on board!
THIRD: John has no idea that Kyle Kingman, one of his crew memebers and person who set up the blog site is posting at SM under the name Ocean Exploration. I find that odd considering John's sister is posting along WITH Kyle at BFN. One would think his sister would have mentioned it. One would think that Kyle would have talked about it with John Silvetti considering Kyle goes to Johns house a lot! Just seems odd to me.
FOURTH: John immediately tells CAPS about a non-disclousre agreement to answer CAPS inquiry as to crew members being traitors along with him.
Maybe it's just me, but I find that an odd thing to respond to. I would think he would inquire as to what do you mean we are being called American Traitors by Kermit? Who is Kermit?
Instead, he tells CAPS MY EMPLOYEES CAN'T TALK! But little does John Silvetti know that Kyle Kingman, Tim Trahan and Louis Schaefer violate the so called non-disclosure aggreement and attempt to sell the ROV images.
FIFTH: John tells CAPS he learned of this LAST WEEK. So someone informed John Silvetti of my posts the previous week before this email from CAPS to John. This email was Nov. 24, 2008. I started posting the information, if memory servers me on Nov. 24, 2008. Previously, I was only posting hints about the cage, if I recall correctly and I'm kinda pretty damned sure of that. Heh Heh. So SOMEONE OTHER THEN CAPS was emailing John Silvetti keeping him informed.
SIXTH: John tells Caps no skull inside the cage, BUT he believes CAPS about what the cage was used for. NOW here we have another foible because do we believe what Kyle told us that it was JOHN that told CAPS the cage was a post office. OR do we believe JOHN's email to CAPS that it is CAPS that told John the cage is a post office?
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5372.msg885730#msg885730
Logged
Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
Pages:
«
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
»
Go Up
Print
Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum
>
Natalee Holloway
>
LCD Archive
> Topic:
Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #854 11/26/10 - 12/30/10
« previous
next »
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
FORUM RULES
-----------------------------
=> Forum Rules and Tips
-----------------------------
Polls, Polls and more Polls
-----------------------------
=> Missing Persons Polls
=> Current Events/News Polls
=> Crime and Trial Polls
=> Just For Fun Polls
-----------------------------
Missing Persons - High Profile
-----------------------------
=> Missing Persons High Profile
===> Dylan Redwine, 13yrs old, last seen 11/19/12, Vallecito, CO
===> Kyron Horman - Portland Oregon
===> Caylee Marie Anthony - Florida (BODY FOUND)
=====> Caylee's Law - by State
=======> Caylee's Law - text
=======> ALABAMA
=======> ALASKA
=======> ARIZONA
=======> ARKANSAS
=======> CALIFORNIA
=======> COLORADO
=======> CONNECTICUT
=======> DELAWARE
=======> DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
=======> FLORIDA
=======> GEORGIA
=======> HAWAII
=======> IDAHO
=======> ILLINOIS
=======> INDIANA
=======> IOWA
=======> KANSAS
=======> KENTUCKY
=======> LOUISIANA
=======> MAINE
=======> MARYLAND
=======> MASSACHUSETTS
=======> MICHIGAN
=======> MINNESOTA
=======> MISSISSIPPI
=======> MISSOURI
=======> MONTANA
=======> NEBRASKA
=======> NEVADA
=======> NEW HAMPSHIRE
=======> NEW JERSEY
=======> NEW MEXICO
=======> NEW YORK
=======> NORTH CAROLINA
=======> NORTH DAKOTA
=======> OHIO
=======> OKLAHOMA
=======> OREGON
=======> PENNSYLVANIA
=======> PUERTO RICO
=======> RHODE ISLAND
=======> SOUTH CAROLINA
=======> SOUTH DAKOTA
=======> TENNESSEE
=======> TEXAS
=======> UTAH
=======> VERMONT
=======> VIRGINIA
=======> WASHINGTON
=======> WEST VIRGINIA
=======> WISCONSIN
=======> WYOMING
=====> Caylee Marie Anthony Murder Trial Archives
===> Sierra Lamar, 15yrs old, Morgan Hill, CA Missing Since March 16, 2012
===> JO ANN (JODIE) BAIN AND 3 DAUGHTERS MISSING 4/27/2012(2 murdered 2 safe)
===> Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6 yrs old missing 4/21/12 Tucson, AZ (Body Found)
===> Jennifer Kesse - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Susan Powell 28yrs old, missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
===> Michelle Loree Parker, Last Seen 11/17/11, Orlando, FL
===> Celina Cass, 11yrs old missing 7/25/11 New Hampshire
===> Aliayah Lunsford, 3yrs old, Weston, West VA, missing since 9/24/2011
===> Lisa Irwin, 10mo old missing since 10/4/2011 KC, MO
===> Robyn Gardner missing in Aruba August 2, 2011
=> Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives
-----------------------------
Virginia Area Missing and Murdered - possible connections
-----------------------------
=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
-----------------------------
High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
-----------------------------
=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
-----------------------------
Missing, Exploited and True Crime
-----------------------------
=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
-----------------------------
Natalee Holloway
-----------------------------
=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
-----------------------------
Current Events and Musings
-----------------------------
=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
-----------------------------
The Monkey Lounge
-----------------------------
=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
-----------------------------
Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
-----------------------------
=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
-----------------------------
General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
-----------------------------
=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
Loading...