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« Reply #460 on: December 13, 2010, 09:47:09 AM »

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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/12/13/amsterdam-says-preschool-pedophile-arrested/?test=latestnews

Dutch Arrest Suspected Serial Child Molester

Published December 12, 2010 | Associated Press


AMSTERDAM -- Amsterdam police called for the public to provide information on a possible child pornography ring Monday after a teacher was arrested on suspicion of molesting dozens of very young children.

The 27-year-old suspect in the Amsterdam case worked as a substitute teacher for at least two preschools in the city and also offered baby-sitting services online in what is feared to be one of the worst cases of sexual abuse in the Netherlands, the city's mayor said at a late-night press conference Sunday.

Eberhard van der Laan said more than 50 parents had been informed that the suspect arrested last week after a tip from U.S. authorities has either confessed to abusing their children, or was thought to have done so.

"This is about a serious suspicion of grave abuse by a man who was arrested Tuesday and has been held since then," Van der Laan said at a news conference with the city's police commissioner and chief prosecutor.

"I see it as my most important job to inform parents as well as I possibly can," he added.

Joannes Thuy, a spokesman for European law enforcement cooperation agency Eurojust, declined comment on whether the tip-off was linked to an ongoing international investigation into the sexual abuse of minors and the production and distribution of child abuse images.

The agency said in an email Monday that a worldwide pedophile network has been uncovered as a result of the efforts of the countries involved, offenders have been arrested and numerous victims have been rescued.

Eurojust said two separate news conferences are planned in Los Angeles, California, and The Hague, Netherlands, this week to announce developments in the investigation which has been running since 2008.


The suspect in the Amsterdam case was arrested Dec. 7 after a Dutch police television program aired what it said was an image of an unidentified victim of child pornography.

U.S. authorities seized the image in a separate investigation and told their Dutch counterparts it was made in the Netherlands, chief prosecutor Herman Bolhaar said.

The victim's parents identified their child from the television image and called police, leading to the suspect's arrest the same night, Bolhaar said.

The man's computers containing child pornography were seized and he has since confessed to dozens of sex crimes allegedly committed over the past year and a half, Bolhaar said.

The victims were boys and girls under four years old, he added.

Amsterdam police spokesman Rob van der Veen said Monday police were still seeking more witnesses and information in the ongoing investigation, with more arrests possible.

Mayor Van der Laan urged media not to publish photographs of the children possibly affected, and to be reserved in contacting their parents.

Police identified the suspect as a Dutch citizen originally from Riga, Latvia, and also published his photo — an unusual step, as privacy laws usually prevent publication of photographs of suspects in the Netherlands.

Van der Laan said that the photo had been released in part to reassure the thousands of parents in Amsterdam whose children were not affected.

"At the same time we want to alert others that it indeed was their babysitter," he said.

Bolhaar noted the suspect was a specialist in encryption and his computers had sophisticated protection.

A candle was left Sunday night on the steps of one of the affected day care centers. An attached note bore the single word: "terrible."


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/12/13/amsterdam-says-preschool-pedophile-arrested/#ixzz180Fl2Wx0


This is the guy:

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THANK YOU, CARPE!! I really needed that! This Gielen biotch really gets under my skin and it's much better to laugh at it! 


I...love...this!!!!! Buuuuut..... Poor Irene Ryan!         Somehow I have a feeling she would not mind!

It does bring to mind a question though...who would be Jethro?
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« Reply #463 on: December 13, 2010, 02:39:18 PM »

http://kikaxemusic.com/news/hard-rock-and-metal/item/2393-within-temptation-get-creepy-with-new-track-where-is-the-edge-from-the-film-me--mr-jones

WITHIN TEMPTATION get creepy with new track WHERE IS THE EDGE from the film ME & MR JONES
Hard Rock and Metal Monday, 13 December 2010 11:08


Roadrunner artists WITHIN TEMPTATION will be releasing the track "Where is the Edge" on their official website this Wednesday, December 15th. Contrary to what the title may indicate, the track is not about a search for the U2 Guitarist, but will coincide with a video for the song, which features exclusive preview scenes taken from the upcoming movie Me & Mr. Jones, directed by Oscar-winning Dutch director Paul Ruven. The movie is a thriller inspired by the disappearance of Natalee Holloway on Aruba, the island where also the movie itself has been secretly shot.

 

Fans sharing the video on their Facebook using an application on the Within Temptation Facebook page will have their names included in the special edition of the album.

 

When speaking about the track, Within Temptation revealed, “The song 'Where Is The Edge' is based on the story of The Unforgiving, a graphic novel written by Steven O’Connell. However there is a clear link between the storyline of our new concept album and the thriller Me & Mr. Jones as they both deal with mystery, murder, guilt, and a lack of forgiveness.”

 

For more information on Within Temptation, go here.
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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


« Reply #464 on: December 13, 2010, 02:59:58 PM »

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_82250.php

Google translation:

ARUBA

Possibly the first dengue death

December 13, 2010, 1:19 p.m. (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - "Today has not been confirmed" that Aruba is the first dengue death this year. Department of Health said this morning in a telephone response to reports in local media on Sunday that a teenager would dengue are deceased.

It was reported that it is a sixteen year old boy from complications of the disease are deceased. But to officially confirm the authorities did nothing. Also on any autopsy would-director Derek Ian Blok nothing. "We have professional and should not disclose personal information." The government wants as regards dengue is like to be as transparent as possible, he says. "In general, the family of a deceased must give permission for autopsy and for the disclosure of the results. Only then can the government possibly mention that if we used in our professional legal possibilities. "

He explained, the general procedure. "When someone dies, presumably due to dengue, the blood is collected. The moment of blood is very important. Until several days the patient had dengue, then this need not be visible in the blood. And this will help the investigation is not forward. There are possible additional research to determine whether it was dengue. If the first result is negative, but the suspicion of dengue continues, we do additional testing. It is only in the Netherlands. The results of such tests take one week to one month, depending on the severity of dengue. "

Epidemic
For the outbreak of dengue and the situation on the island makes any dengue death no difference. "That sounds very harsh to say, but last year we had three dengue deaths. A death due to dengue this year is expected, the spread of dengue as long as we did not stop. "
Aruba is 'just' in a dengue epidemic, says Block. But he hastens on to say that this week may vary. "We view the dengue figures over five years. The trend is that between March and September are extremely few cases in November and December more accurate. As long as we in our weekly sales figures below that trend figures are, we speak not of an epidemic. We have above, we call it an epidemic. "The latest figures are of dengue in late November. Health finds that when there was a slight increase of dengue cases, just above trend. "We see an increase in November over the trend and thus an epidemic, but the increase was less than expected. If this line continues, then it could be that the epidemic in December over again because we back below the trend down. "Block admits that on the basis of these data the dengue situation in Aruba can be seriously mentioned.

Also read "Dengue type 4 also in Aruba"

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_82247.php

Google translation:

ARUBA

Dengue type 4 also in Aruba

December 13, 2010, 13:17 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - Test results from last week have been sent from the Netherlands to Aruba, Aruba on that now for the first time, dengue type 4 haunts.

According to the Director of Health Department increases the risk of dengue disease. "Those who have previously had dengue fever, has in general less likely to return to dengue type to get. But this is a type that we have not seen before, and this is no more immune to Aruba. The entire population is due to dengue type 4 is a greater chance of dengue. "Begins today and Yellow Fever Mosquito Control Service (GKMB) syringes and check again. This work was temporarily suspended when it was raining heavily. An employee of GKMB says that the service 'daily calls from people asking if we want to come. " "People still think that spraying alone is sufficient. But the spot is clear enough that there are breeding grounds around the house by the residents were not removed. Spraying has no purpose, because it kills only adult mosquitoes. "According GKMB there are some neighborhoods where the nuisance of mosquitoes is highest. "(Bruinwijk)Brown District, Oranjestad, Dakota, Paradera, Noord (Sabana Liber) and San Nicolas."
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #465 on: December 13, 2010, 03:06:26 PM »

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_82248.php

Google translation:

ARUBA

Valero Aruba and sign gas supply agreement in principle

December 13, 2010, 13:17 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - The Government Office this morning was an agreement in principle between the Aruban government and oil refinery Valero signed for gas supplies from the refinery in San Nicolas.

Delivery is based on the purchase of a private ship liquefied natural gas to the island will bring to WEB and Valero. Addition, we are a direct pipeline between Venezuela and Aruba. In the signed agreement in principle, the possibility Utilities NV, parent company of both water and power producer WEB and Elmar electricity supplier, to join in this joint venture. Valero is working on making a switch from oil to liquefied natural gas as fuel for the refinery. It should not only ensure lower costs for the refinery but also the production of utilities will, especially through this agreement are lower. Eman expects the transition of gas production by WEB WEB between 15 and 20 percent will fall. Recipe WEB-generators can all run on gas. Valero will for the change, which is already being prepared for a bigger profit margin concerns. The prime minister assures the continuity of production and thus the presence of Valero on the island.

 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #466 on: December 13, 2010, 03:12:18 PM »

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_82227.php

Google translation:

ARUBA

Website for foreign investors

December 13, 2010, 24:01 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - Lawyers VanEps Kunneman VanDoorne has a new website for business launched. This is specifically aimed at clarifying the changes that the new political structure after the removal of the Netherlands Antilles, the legal systems on these islands and Aruba entail.

The website www.doingbusinessdutchcaribbean.com is designed for Dutch companies and investors who want to do in Aruba, Curacao, St. Maarten and Bonaire. Also Surinamese companies and investors, who recently have become more active in the region benefit from the site. Besides general information, are also the legal aspects of doing business on the islands issue. Things like include the usual business structures, licensing issues, labor issues, intellectual property and tenancies are discussed. For example, a site which permits needed to start a business and for any recruitment of foreign workers. But there is also information about banks, insurance companies and the role of the Central Bank as supervisor. Of further interest is the differences between the various legal systems.

The law firm says several reasons for launching this website. First, does the threshold and lowering costs for customers. A customer with the necessary basic information to get before the lawyer for further advice. And because as previously informed parties concerned might be, it also saves time and cost to the customer. Also sees VanEps Kunneman VanDoorne as a showpiece for the home office and they finally put it to satisfy an order of Lex Mundi, the largest international network of independent law firms. VanEps Kunneman VanDoorne is exclusive for the member countries Aruba, Curacao, St. Maarten and the BES islands and Lex Mundi asks each member to a so-called "doing business guide" back on the country or region that the member represents.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #467 on: December 13, 2010, 03:13:39 PM »

What is the hold up?

Janet

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SEPTEMBER, 2010

Van der Sloot: I've 'misused' Holloway case 'for my own advantage'
By the CNN Wire Staff
September 7, 2010 9:11 a.m. EDT


Also Monday, a Peruvian court voted 2-1 to reject van der Sloot's contention that he is being held unlawfully, but the court requires three votes to secure a decision. Alteza said that a fourth jurist will hear the case and cast a vote at a public hearing next week. If that judge votes in favor of van der Sloot, a fifth judge will hear the case to break the tie.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09/07/peru.vandersloot/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn


DECEMBER, 2010

Van der Sloot not Peru's most notorious prisoner
Last Update: 9:33 am


Meanwhile, down the road at Castro Castro, Joran van der Sloot is still awaiting word his appeal to have his murder confession thrown out of court. His lawyers charge both coercion and procedural improprieties to his confession he murdered 21 year old Stephany Flores after she found material about Natalee Holloway on his computer. Flores corpse was found in van der Sloot's Lima hotel room five years to the day of Natalee Holloway's disappearance on a high school trip to Aruba.

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-not-Perus-most-notorious-prisoner/WbjNq4sK0U6QzOspmsOJhA.cspx


Waiting for justice to prevail for Natalee Holloway and now Stephany Flores at time seems so futile.

However ... there is a day coming when Joran van der Sloot will stand alone before the Judge of all judges and ... He will not be mocked.

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« Reply #468 on: December 13, 2010, 03:15:33 PM »

Oil Spill?

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=5605&offId=0&offDate=2010-12


ATROBE OIL-SPILL GRANDI DEN AREA DI VALERO, DURANTE TRASPASO DI CRUDO



Diadomingo atardi, alarma a ser bati pa un oil spill basta grandi den area di refineria Valero. Segun indicacion, un tankero cu ta para pa carga of descarga lo a ocasiona e oil spill aki. Durante e proceso pa kita e coneccion, algo a bai robez. Hecho ta cu ta masha azeta a bay laman.

Polis a wordo notifica di e caso aki mesora. Tambe Guardacosta di Caribe Hulandes, a cay aden pa cuminsa cu e investigacion. Refineria Valero mes a saca tugboatnan pa bay over na spuitmento di quimico riba e lama pa contene e oil-spill aki, pero manera semper, e crudo pisa aki ta bay fondo, y ta sigui haci da


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again oil-spill big in area of valero, during traspaso of crudo


diadomingo nightfall, alarma owing to being beat for one oil spill enough big in area of refineria valero. according indicacion, one tankero cu is stop for carga or descarga will owing to ocasiona the oil spill here. during the proceso for less the coneccion, algo owing to go robez. mature is cu is very azeta owing to bay sea. police owing to wordo notifica of the caso here at once. also guardacosta of caribe dutch, owing to cay inside for cuminsa cu the investigacion. refineria valero self owing to saca tugboatnan for bay over at spuitmento of quimico on the lama for contene the oil-spill here, but as always, the crudo pisa here is bay fondo, y is follow haci da

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_82252.php

Google translation:

Valero Oil leaking from tanker at sea

December 13, 2010, 13:22 (GMT -04:00)

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SAN NICOLAS - After the transshipment of oil from a tanker to a storage tank of Valero oil refinery is still unclear yesterday afternoon a quantity of oil leaked into the sea. The accident took place at Berth 1 Reef in the refinery. This confirms an employee of the Coast Guard. Valero, the Coast Guard and the Environmental Inspectorate is not informed of the spill.

The loading arm of Reef Berth 1, the dock where the ship was moored, was once beaten so the oil was over, cleaned. In the procedure, residual oil from the loading arm in a separate tank. The amount of oil in the loading arm appeared so large that the tank overflowed and oil flowed into the sea. Fishermen saw ships from Valero were spraying chemicals to the oil slick spreading and alert the Coast Guard. "When we arrived, they were already one hour," said coastguard officer Luis Tromp, who at that time had piketdienst. Nico Arts, acting director of the Disaster Management Office confirmed that his department not been informed of the accident. "I learned this morning from the newspaper. And while we have been designated by the Government as coordinator in cases of oil spills. "Doctor said to have been already in talks with Department of Shipping, which eventually supervisor about what is happening in Aruban waters with ships.

Exactly how much oil has fallen into the sea, is unclear. Coast Guard Officer Tromp: "I suspect that it is four to five barrels" A barrel contains almost 159 liters. Richard Simon, manager of the Marine Department of Valero and coordinator of the sweep to the amount estimated by the Coast Guard oil spills not confirm. He refers to company spokesman Paul Arends Daily Herald. But this is the time of printing of this edition is not available.

Cleaning
According to Simon, people now "already 98 percent finished" with the cleaning. "The area where the oil has leaked, does not go beyond 1 Berth Reef. This morning there was a small piece that had to be cleaned, but we are currently doing. "The chemicals used for cleaning both approved by the Aruban government and international agencies, he asserts. The chemicals used by BP to dilute the oil during the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico last summer were much heavier. "For the environment and the marine life is what we use, at least not harmful."

 
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #469 on: December 13, 2010, 05:15:57 PM »

http://kikaxemusic.com/news/hard-rock-and-metal/item/2393-within-temptation-get-creepy-with-new-track-where-is-the-edge-from-the-film-me--mr-jones

WITHIN TEMPTATION get creepy with new track WHERE IS THE EDGE from the film ME & MR JONES
Hard Rock and Metal Monday, 13 December 2010 11:08


Roadrunner artists WITHIN TEMPTATION will be releasing the track "Where is the Edge" on their official website this Wednesday, December 15th. Contrary to what the title may indicate, the track is not about a search for the U2 Guitarist, but will coincide with a video for the song, which features exclusive preview scenes taken from the upcoming movie Me & Mr. Jones, directed by Oscar-winning Dutch director Paul Ruven. The movie is a thriller inspired by the disappearance of Natalee Holloway on Aruba, the island where also the movie itself has been secretly shot.

 

Fans sharing the video on their Facebook using an application on the Within Temptation Facebook page will have their names included in the special edition of the album.

 

When speaking about the track, Within Temptation revealed, “The song 'Where Is The Edge' is based on the story of The Unforgiving, a graphic novel written by Steven O’Connell. However there is a clear link between the storyline of our new concept album and the thriller Me & Mr. Jones as they both deal with mystery, murder, guilt, and a lack of forgiveness.”

 

For more information on Within Temptation, go here.



That group and comic strip writer is very Goth.  The most current strip. by O'Connell is about a virus placed by Russia. The earlier one deals with a vampire.  I have no idea why that music/topic would be tied to this story....unless of course...the writer found vampires and evil on Aruba. 

BLOODRAYNE: GENESIS TPB
by Steven O’Connell, Christina Z, Kody Chamberlain, Romano Molenaar
Vampire blood. Human heart. Deadly intentions. Collecting the sold out first year of BloodRayne. First up, Agent Rayne must stop a secret Nazi plot to smuggle a Vampire King into the United States. She then comes face-to-face with the prince of a decadent and powerful Grecian vampire clan. Later Rayne investigates the disappearance of two Brimstone Society members, leading her to an ancient cemetery. Also learn the origin of Rayne’s spectacular blades. Based on the popular video game character.

http://www.digitalwebbing.com/blog/2007/09/bloodrayne-genesis-preview/
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« Reply #470 on: December 13, 2010, 05:18:56 PM »

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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/12/13/amsterdam-says-preschool-pedophile-arrested/?test=latestnews

Dutch Arrest Suspected Serial Child Molester

Published December 12, 2010 | Associated Press


AMSTERDAM -- Amsterdam police called for the public to provide information on a possible child pornography ring Monday after a teacher was arrested on suspicion of molesting dozens of very young children.

The 27-year-old suspect in the Amsterdam case worked as a substitute teacher for at least two preschools in the city and also offered baby-sitting services online in what is feared to be one of the worst cases of sexual abuse in the Netherlands, the city's mayor said at a late-night press conference Sunday.

Eberhard van der Laan said more than 50 parents had been informed that the suspect arrested last week after a tip from U.S. authorities has either confessed to abusing their children, or was thought to have done so.

"This is about a serious suspicion of grave abuse by a man who was arrested Tuesday and has been held since then," Van der Laan said at a news conference with the city's police commissioner and chief prosecutor.

"I see it as my most important job to inform parents as well as I possibly can," he added.

Joannes Thuy, a spokesman for European law enforcement cooperation agency Eurojust, declined comment on whether the tip-off was linked to an ongoing international investigation into the sexual abuse of minors and the production and distribution of child abuse images.

The agency said in an email Monday that a worldwide pedophile network has been uncovered as a result of the efforts of the countries involved, offenders have been arrested and numerous victims have been rescued.

Eurojust said two separate news conferences are planned in Los Angeles, California, and The Hague, Netherlands, this week to announce developments in the investigation which has been running since 2008.


The suspect in the Amsterdam case was arrested Dec. 7 after a Dutch police television program aired what it said was an image of an unidentified victim of child pornography.

U.S. authorities seized the image in a separate investigation and told their Dutch counterparts it was made in the Netherlands, chief prosecutor Herman Bolhaar said.

The victim's parents identified their child from the television image and called police, leading to the suspect's arrest the same night, Bolhaar said.

The man's computers containing child pornography were seized and he has since confessed to dozens of sex crimes allegedly committed over the past year and a half, Bolhaar said.

The victims were boys and girls under four years old, he added.

Amsterdam police spokesman Rob van der Veen said Monday police were still seeking more witnesses and information in the ongoing investigation, with more arrests possible.

Mayor Van der Laan urged media not to publish photographs of the children possibly affected, and to be reserved in contacting their parents.

Police identified the suspect as a Dutch citizen originally from Riga, Latvia, and also published his photo — an unusual step, as privacy laws usually prevent publication of photographs of suspects in the Netherlands.

Van der Laan said that the photo had been released in part to reassure the thousands of parents in Amsterdam whose children were not affected.

"At the same time we want to alert others that it indeed was their babysitter," he said.

Bolhaar noted the suspect was a specialist in encryption and his computers had sophisticated protection.

A candle was left Sunday night on the steps of one of the affected day care centers. An attached note bore the single word: "terrible."


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/12/13/amsterdam-says-preschool-pedophile-arrested/#ixzz180Fl2Wx0


This is the guy:

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I will bet money they are only making a show of this because the US contacted them.  They couldn't even find the guy until he was on TV and HAD to find him.  We all know that society favors men....they are much more important than children.   

Even if he is arrested, he won't serve any time.   
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« Reply #471 on: December 13, 2010, 05:46:50 PM »

Translated comments from a Dutch site about Robert M (the pedophile):

Dutch to English translation
Robert M.: Did no one writing on the wall?

Exactly. Adult sober mind, stripped of all modern imposed tolerance and non-discrimination legislation, says when it comes to young children that you would be stupid for a young male immigrant Note here that a marriage joined with a male partner, with such shows raising children as a "profession" and often unsupervised.

This is so unspeakably harsh:

The son of the woman came home in August 2008 with the story that he and a boyfriend of 2.5 years old that day by M. were abused. The boy said he and his friend had to undress themselves. They were M. parts sit in each other's thinking, says AT5.

M. on the particular day only for the group stood and held the boy under his own clothes. But he encouraged the two.

Fantasy
The director of the nursery was the story as fantasy. Children under four would come up a lot, according to him. In an interview, where Robert M. was present, took the director even to his employee. "He could work through the stories and could do no more night of sleep over the accusations."

Unreliable
Even the police do not believe the story, says the mother. "We were told that they could do nothing with the declaration," the woman says. "Because these young children are unreliable."

"For Robert, the way it turned out that we were not taken seriously," says the woman.

Source and © The Guardian

Parents and police / justice everywhere mi would be well advised to include the directors of childcare once piece by piece under a microscope to explain. And in some cases such as this with the director from 2008 to redundancies. I repeat: a staff with such a background, take precaution not in such an environment. All non-discrimination law despite fact.

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« Reply #472 on: December 13, 2010, 07:07:16 PM »

I read over at RU that this was replayed again tonight on MSNBC:

http://television.aol.com/show/inside-the-mind-of-joran-van-der-sloot/11941050/main

Inside the Mind of Joran van der Sloot
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New
December 12, 2010
MSNBC 10:00 PM

Inside the mind of Joran van der Sloot, the prime suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway and the murder of Stephany Flores Ramirez.


I caught the last 15 minutes or so last night....I was bummed that I missed it.  Looked to see when its on again and here's what I get   

All Upcoming Times for 'Inside the Mind of Joran van der Sloot'
Show me:  All Upcoming Episodes  New Episodes
We're sorry, there are no national broadcasts of this TV show in the next two weeks.

http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tv/inside-the-mind-of-joran-van-der-sloot/EP01352497

However, I did catch Taken: The Elizabeth Smart Story which was on right after that....if you haven't seen this yet its very good....keeps hope alive for those that are still missing.  Its playing again Sunday at 8pm if you are intersted. 

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #474 on: December 14, 2010, 09:55:18 AM »

TM posted another source of this, yesterday.

http://www.bostonherald.com/business/general/view.bg?articleid=1302843&format=text

Valero to restart its Aruba refinery

By Associated Press  |   Monday, December 13, 2010  |  http://www.bostonherald.com  |  Business & Markets
ORANJESTAD, Aruba — Valero Energy Corp. says it is restarting its Aruba refinery, which has been idle for a year and a half.

The San Antonio, Texas-based company shut its Aruba refinery in July 2009 as falling prices for its refined products made the plant less profitable. The refinery had a capacity of about 275,000 barrels a day.

Valero’s executive vice president Kim Bowers said in a Monday statement that the refinery "will soon be in operation." The restart process will begin within days and all refinery units are expected to be operating by the end of January.

Aruba and Valero have also signed a memorandum of understanding regarding the delivery of a liquefied natural gas to the Caribbean island, which will help reduce utility costs.

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« Reply #475 on: December 14, 2010, 10:01:43 AM »

Valero's Aruba refinery to become fully operational in January
Valero Energy intends to reopen its 235,000-barrel-per-day refinery in Aruba within days and expects it to be at peak operation by January's end. "The restart was supported in part by the settlement agreement reached with the government of Aruba and approved by the parliament of Aruba last May," the company said. Valero has spent more than $90 million to improve the refinery.

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This story published in API SmartBrief on 12/14/2010 

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #477 on: December 14, 2010, 11:08:45 AM »

Looks like DJ Diablo punched a wall?  His knuckles tell the story.
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Looks like DJ Diablo punched a wall?  His knuckles tell the story.

And he's still got that nasty wart! 

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #479 on: December 14, 2010, 12:23:16 PM »

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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