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« Reply #400 on: February 03, 2011, 11:27:18 AM »

it's so unbeleivable to me that there are 7 men out there that actually married her .
She's so disgusting. I can only imagine what they're like after seeing AY and AB.
So she's a trigamist. What a  freak.
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« Reply #401 on: February 03, 2011, 12:19:14 PM »

Mr DA had better not drag his feet too long if there is evidence.  I do not think the locals will be too thrilled if she gets out in April before it even goes to court.

People around here would be more than happy to handle it...
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« Reply #402 on: February 03, 2011, 01:10:49 PM »

To recap.

Elisa Annette Baker
born 6 Jun 1968, Burke, NC
Parents - Marshall Thomas Fairchild  and Sylvia Jean Barnes

1.  ? Teenager -  Annulled by groom's father (dude you owe your Dad big time!)
2. Jerry Alan Winkler - married 14 Sep 1985 Caldwell County , Divorced 29 Jan 1986 Caldwell County
3. Andrew Harris Jr - married 7 Apr 1991 SC, Divorced 14 Dec 1995 Lenoir, NC
4. Darrell Putnam - married 4 Feb ????, Divorced 22 Nov 1999, Cleveland,NC
5. Jeffrey Allred  - married 1997 - (Media reports Still legally married)
6. Aaron Young - married Aug 8 1998, divorced Aug 2009
7. Adam Baker - Married July  2008


I disagree with the media that she is still legally married to Allred as she did not divorce Putnam until 1999.  She was married to Putnam, Allred and Young all at the same time.  Which means her marriages to Allred and Putnam are nulled.  So her marriage to Baker is valid as her marriage to Young does not count?      

Edit: Added Date and Location in blue

Good Afternoon Monkeys!
I wonder if she was legally divorced from Jerry Alan Winkler because in NC you can't get a divorce until you've been legally seperated for a year and from the looks of it their marriage didn't last long enough to get a divorce!

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« Reply #403 on: February 03, 2011, 01:16:19 PM »

Good afternoon monkey friends !
I do not know if u all saw this or not, but is a fantastic post, IMO !

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34799002&postID=7798369066972654442
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« Reply #404 on: February 03, 2011, 01:18:10 PM »

Good afternoon monkey friends !
I do not know if u all saw this or not, but is a fantastic post, IMO !

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34799002&postID=7798369066972654442

I was referring to what "HOBNOB"
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« Reply #405 on: February 03, 2011, 01:23:13 PM »

Good afternoon monkey friends !
I do not know if u all saw this or not, but is a fantastic post, IMO !

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34799002&postID=7798369066972654442

I was referring to what "HOBNOB"
posted. I did not want to post the entire article.

Thanks for the link LAKE ERIE PRINCESS. It is an interesting article.  I have been missing you. 
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« Reply #406 on: February 03, 2011, 02:10:11 PM »

This is a must read article as most of her Ex's are interviewed.  I will make changes on dates and marriages based on this as well.

Dismembered NC girl's stepmom led a troubled life

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/03/AR2011020303595.html
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« Reply #407 on: February 03, 2011, 02:30:22 PM »

Elisa Annette Baker
born 6 Jun 1968, Burke, NC
Parents - Marshall Thomas Fairchild  and Sylvia Jean Barnes

Amber born father unknown

1. Jerry Alan Winkler - married 14 Sep 1985 Caldwell County , Divorced 29 Jan 1986 Caldwell County Annulled by groom's father (dude you owe your Dad big time!)
Since they were both under 18, they needed their parents' permission. They lied to Winkler's parents and told them he was the father of Amber. To prove it, they forged a copy of a blood test.

2. Joseph Proctor - married 5 sept 1987, divorced 1992
Douglas born a few months later
Brittany born a year later
Lived in Protor's Mother's house Levirtis White
April 1989 Levirtis asked a judge for a restraining order, claiming Elisa was stealing and destroying property in the home.  Elisa responded - "If I have to get out of here, I'll burn the house down. I'm going to kill this baby. I'm going to wreck this car. I'll kill those kids."
 

3. Andrew Harris Jr - married 7 Apr 1991 SC(per Ancestry.com) 17 Apr 1992 (per Harris) , Divorced 14 Dec 1995 Lenoir, NC
After a fight in early 1994, Harris left the house for a few days. When he returned, it was empty. No furniture, guns or fishing rods


4. Darrell Putnam - married 4 Feb 1995, Divorced 22 Nov 1999, Cleveland,NC
Putnam was 30 and had been deaf nearly his entire life
She told him about her girls, but lied and said 8-year-old Amber had cancer
Elisa's mother dies
One day after work, Putnam found her in bed with another man. He walked to his mother's house, and returned a few days later. Everything was gone, including his expensive hearing aids


5. Jeffrey Allred  - married 3 Oct 1997 - (Media reports Still legally married)
Spring of 1998 she took teh kids to Walmart, he packed and left.
He said she beat him with a baseball bat and threw rocks at him. He was so spooked that he never divorced her he was too afraid he might see her in court.
 

6. Aaron Young - married Aug 8 1998, divorced Aug 2009
Aaron Young, who met Elisa while she was married to Allred, picked up the pieces. It was the first time a woman had paid attention to him.
She was 30, he was 20 when they married
Aaron Young's mother spotted her kissing another man in a car in 2007, and her sixth marriage ended

7. Adam Baker - Married 8 July  2008
He was 33, she was 40 when they met
In Australia, Zahra's medical treatments were free. But Adam Baker told his friends and family Elisa Baker had money and would take care of the bills


With info from

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/03/AR2011020303595_5.html
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« Reply #408 on: February 03, 2011, 02:51:06 PM »

Good afternoon monkey friends !
I do not know if u all saw this or not, but is a fantastic post, IMO !

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34799002&postID=7798369066972654442

I was referring to what "HOBNOB"
posted. I did not want to post the entire article.

Thanks for the link LAKE ERIE PRINCESS. It is an interesting article.  I have been missing you. 

I lurk and read a lot here. I miss everyone, but your psts turn a bad day right side up for me.
This woman's past gets murkier and murkier.
Geez, what is next ?

I have concluded that I would not trust her with a dog, let alone a child !
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« Reply #409 on: February 03, 2011, 02:53:44 PM »

NR this is probably the same article. I agree, a must read.

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20110203/US.Disabled.Girl.Killed/


Dismembered NC girl's stepmom led a troubled life

HICKORY, N.C. — Elisa Baker had an uncanny ability to stay ahead of bill collectors, police, social workers and her multiple husbands, The Associated Press discovered in an investigation of the woman who led authorities to the dismembered remains of her disabled, 10-year-old stepdaughter.

Few saw her pattern because when she abandoned a relationship, she usually severed all ties. In seven years, she had no fewer than 42 different addresses. During a different three-year stretch, she was married to three men at the same time.

In interviews with three dozen people, and a review of hundreds of court and police documents, AP unraveled a life of deception described by friends, family and the vulnerable men she wed, including some with disabilities. At times, they said, she was physically abusive.

Elisa (eh-LEES'-uh) Baker is charged with obstructing the investigation of the disappearance of Zahra Baker, the freckle-faced girl who fought bone cancer, but no one has been charged in Zahra's death.

The stepmother has been the center of the investigation, though, and the details of her strained relationships and early family life help explain why.

Neither Elisa Baker, 42, who is jailed, nor her attorneys, responded to repeated requests for comment. Other members of her family, including her daughters, declined to speak with the AP.

Those who knew Elisa described an attractive high school student who became manipulative, cunning and insecure, struggling with obesity. Even as she got older and gained more weight, men were drawn to her.

At other times, she detached herself from society, immersed in the online world. There, she made herself over as E'lesa, a darkly glamorous woman whose allure reached Zahra's father, Adam Baker, an Australian who lived far from her economically depressed corner of Appalachia.

"This is a woman who thought she could talk her way out of anything, that she was smarter than everybody else. But she never told the truth," said Andrew Harris Jr., her third husband. "She hurt a lot of people."

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« Reply #410 on: February 03, 2011, 02:57:51 PM »

Thought this was interesting.

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In the fall of 1994, a neighbor told Darrell Putnam she had found the perfect woman for him. Putnam was 30 and had been deaf nearly his entire life. He can understand speech with his hearing aids on, but his disability made it difficult for him to find dates, said his mother, Margie Putnam.

Elisa and Darrell Putnam went to a bar. She told him about her girls, but lied and said 8-year-old Amber had cancer.

Within weeks, they moved in together.

About this time, Elisa's mother died of cancer, and she had ballooned to more than 300 pounds.

"I wouldn't see her for days," Darrell Putnam said, at times using sign language as his mother interpreted. "She would go out and get drunk and carry on. She was never home."

Worse, when she was there, she would "smack around" her children, Darrell Putnam said.

They married Feb. 4, 1995, but their relationship quickly disintegrated.

One day after work, Putnam found her in bed with another man. He walked to his mother's house, and returned a few days later. Everything was gone, including his expensive hearing aids.

"All he wanted was a family," Margie Putnam said. "He loved those girls. He stayed with her because of those girls. But in the end she broke his heart. She was pure evil."

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http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20110203/US.Disabled.Girl.Killed/
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« Reply #411 on: February 03, 2011, 02:58:07 PM »

She was still married to Putnam when she married Allred and is still married to Allred as he is too scared to see her in court to get a divorce.  Depending on how the law looks at this, the Allred marriage never happened as she was still married to Putnam which then means that AY's marriage also never happened as she was still married to Putnam  (wonder if he can get a refund for the marriage cert and divorce?) but she is married to AB?

Anyone? 
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« Reply #412 on: February 03, 2011, 03:15:06 PM »

Northern Rose, I am as confused as you are.
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« Reply #413 on: February 03, 2011, 03:47:39 PM »

Elisa Annette Baker
born 6 Jun 1968, Burke, NC
Parents - Marshall Thomas Fairchild  and Sylvia Jean Barnes

Amber born father unknown

1. Jerry Alan Winkler - married 14 Sep 1985 Caldwell County , Divorced 29 Jan 1986 Caldwell County Annulled by groom's father (dude you owe your Dad big time!)
Since they were both under 18, they needed their parents' permission. They lied to Winkler's parents and told them he was the father of Amber. To prove it, they forged a copy of a blood test.

2. Joseph Proctor - married 5 sept 1987, divorced 1992
Douglas born a few months later
Brittany born a year later
Lived in Protor's Mother's house Levirtis White
April 1989 Levirtis asked a judge for a restraining order, claiming Elisa was stealing and destroying property in the home.  Elisa responded - "If I have to get out of here, I'll burn the house down. I'm going to kill this baby. I'm going to wreck this car. I'll kill those kids."
 

3. Andrew Harris Jr - married 7 Apr 1991 SC(per Ancestry.com) 17 Apr 1992 (per Harris) , Divorced 14 Dec 1995 Lenoir, NC
After a fight in early 1994, Harris left the house for a few days. When he returned, it was empty. No furniture, guns or fishing rods


4. Darrell Putnam - married 4 Feb 1995, Divorced 22 Nov 1999, Cleveland,NC
Putnam was 30 and had been deaf nearly his entire life
She told him about her girls, but lied and said 8-year-old Amber had cancer
Elisa's mother dies
One day after work, Putnam found her in bed with another man. He walked to his mother's house, and returned a few days later. Everything was gone, including his expensive hearing aids


5. Jeffrey Allred  - married 3 Oct 1997 - (Media reports Still legally married)
Spring of 1998 she took teh kids to Walmart, he packed and left.
He said she beat him with a baseball bat and threw rocks at him. He was so spooked that he never divorced her he was too afraid he might see her in court.
 

6. Aaron Young - married Aug 8 1998, divorced Aug 2009
Aaron Young, who met Elisa while she was married to Allred, picked up the pieces. It was the first time a woman had paid attention to him.
She was 30, he was 20 when they married
Aaron Young's mother spotted her kissing another man in a car in 2007, and her sixth marriage ended

7. Adam Baker - Married 8 July  2008
He was 33, she was 40 when they met
In Australia, Zahra's medical treatments were free. But Adam Baker told his friends and family Elisa Baker had money and would take care of the bills


With info from

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/03/AR2011020303595_5.html

According to this timeline, she's been a polygamist twice.  Putnam-Allred-Young, then Allred-Young-Baker.
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« Reply #414 on: February 03, 2011, 04:18:55 PM »

She was still married to Putnam when she married Allred and is still married to Allred as he is too scared to see her in court to get a divorce.  Depending on how the law looks at this, the Allred marriage never happened as she was still married to Putnam which then means that AY's marriage also never happened as she was still married to Putnam  (wonder if he can get a refund for the marriage cert and divorce?) but she is married to AB?

Anyone? 

Not legally, no.

Wasn't legally married to Aaron Young either.

..and a few others.
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« Reply #415 on: February 03, 2011, 05:18:27 PM »

She was still married to Putnam when she married Allred and is still married to Allred as he is too scared to see her in court to get a divorce.  Depending on how the law looks at this, the Allred marriage never happened as she was still married to Putnam which then means that AY's marriage also never happened as she was still married to Putnam  (wonder if he can get a refund for the marriage cert and divorce?) but she is married to AB?

Anyone? 

Not legally, no.

Wasn't legally married to Aaron Young either.

..and a few others.
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Lordy, this is one of those . . . do you walk to school or carry your lunch . . . kind of puzzlements.
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« Reply #416 on: February 03, 2011, 08:21:12 PM »

Zahra Baker's stepmom led a troubled life

http://www.wcnc.com/news/local/Dismembered-NC-girls-stepmom-led-a-troubled-life-115204999.html
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« Reply #417 on: February 03, 2011, 08:23:08 PM »

Autopsy not complete in Zahra Baker case

http://www2.hickoryrecord.com/news/2011/feb/03/autopsy-not-complete-zahra-baker-case-ar-752246/
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« Reply #418 on: February 03, 2011, 08:23:56 PM »

Zahra memorial on Christie Road to become permanent

http://www2.hickoryrecord.com/news/2011/feb/03/zahra-memorial-christie-road-become-permanent-ar-752258/
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« Reply #419 on: February 03, 2011, 08:24:27 PM »

Only objective in Zahra case: Justice

http://www2.hickoryrecord.com/news/2011/feb/03/only-objective-zahra-case-justice-ar-752231/
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