Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #38 12/18/10 - 12/24/10

[islandmonkey]

Question to anyone not as drain bamaged as I am at this point, did the profile posted from BOC come from Blink or FBI?

TIA

hmmm I believe a combination of both? Do you mind bringing it over here?

I

LOL~Why do you think I asked tee he he....ok, I'll take my feeble mind and go look. Also, dis you see my longgg post about what can adn can't be done in FL in regards to the SO? Of course, again FL's laws could be different, but when you have a flyer posted every 12 feet, it is more effective.

[islandmonkey]

Wait Neighbor hold the phone! You are in that area right? The school has canceled all events that parents attend? what is the reason for that? hmm interesting.

THUD........ok, that piques my interest, I will be trying to call my friend from Eugene with family in Portland

[neighbor]

wow. what a world we live in.  In my community we celebrate volunteers for all kinds of endeavors.  We have to.  There is not enough money to pay people to do the things that need to be done.

Are taxpayers going to pony up the money to do the things that need to be done in schools?  All the free labor that was given that day to skyline school?

We might as well live as in the former Soviet Union with armed guards everywhere and concertina wire around everything and suspicion of every person that exists. 

That does not mean that I don't think we should be careful and prudent, but what kind of world is that where we can't even invite volunteers to help with things in the community without people thinking that it is code words . 

Hi HelloKitty,
I personally think that if the volunteers were coming to the school AFTER school, that was not a huge problem. If the volunteers were coming DURING school hours, with children present, that is a HUGE problem. I am very very lucky. My daughters middle school is completely locked. In order to get on school grounds you have to go through the office and then try to get passed the diligent ladies who work there. You cannot take your child off campus without signing your child out, in said office. In the mornings and afternoons there is a teacher or two who stand outside and watch the comings and goings of children being picked up and dropped off. I could NEVER EVER imagine that my daughters school would allow UNKNOWN volunteers to wander around campus while my child was there. Again, I am VERY lucky. I would have a fit if was any other way.

I think volunteers are fine if they have been screened and are NEVER allowed to be alone with a child. 

Was the work day at Skyline on a school day or a weekend?  I wouldn't think you could get many people on a work day.

Unfortunately, unless the person is you yourself, there is no way on earth to know who is an OK person or not.  All the background checks in the world won't catch a perv the first time. 

Do you never allow your children to go to someone else's home to play with a friend?  Too much Mom will make your kids rebel and do things on the sly.  It's an ugly world out there,

I always laugh when people say that there children would never whatever.  Keep too tight of a rein on them and they will go wild on you.  I have seen it with parents who think they have control

It's a hard world after all.

Maybe it is time for a reality check .. even as today, Skyline K8 allows people to volunteer without b/g checks.  This includes normal school hours for as as long as they are not alone with children.  On the other hand all events where all parents are invited to the school are canceled.

Are you serious Neighbor? Unreal!

I am afraid it is

[hellokitty]

I have a gut feeling that someone, somewhere is feeling a lot of pressure right now. The blogs are getting super nasty. Especially on facebook. Here is one of many

Brandy Carey I think it's great that Terri has such fine and upstanding people to support her in her time of need.Hopefully when Terri is arrested and this goes to trial,all of the supporters will show up as character witnesses.I mean,wouldn't you just love to have a stripper,bondage queen,someone that admitted to masturbating as a... neighbor's house burned and masturbating at her Pap's funeral,and not to mention the psycho blog writer that has a criminal record for harassment and who knows what,as a supporter?After all, we are known for the company we keep,birds of a feather,yada,yada,yada.Yes ,Terri must be so proud to have such people as friends and supporters

 

Marybeth Shafer (Schaeffer) However she spells it or whomever she is  wrote this months ago on the Terri Support page on FB.  She was an admin on that page.  Those are her own words.  No one else's.  She wrote about the masturbation about her own-self. I read it myself.

Nancy Sewell who is 42nd State and alternative theories blog does have a record for harassment.  And SL, an admin on the Terri suport page had a stint as a bondage person.

[no rose colored glasses]

Wait Neighbor hold the phone! You are in that area right? The school has canceled all events that parents attend? what is the reason for that? hmm interesting.

THUD........ok, that piques my interest, I will be trying to call my friend from Eugene with family in Portland

I don't get that at all.

[hellokitty]

 

I cannot believe in this day and age that every place that has children doesn't do background checks.  I know in my community this has been expected for years and I mean at least 15 years.

But it doesn't stop the pervs for sure, does it.  because they have to be caught one time first.

[islandmonkey]

I have a gut feeling that someone, somewhere is feeling a lot of pressure right now. The blogs are getting super nasty. Especially on facebook. Here is one of many

Brandy Carey I think it's great that Terri has such fine and upstanding people to support her in her time of need.Hopefully when Terri is arrested and this goes to trial,all of the supporters will show up as character witnesses.I mean,wouldn't you just love to have a stripper,bondage queen,someone that admitted to masturbating as a... neighbor's house burned and masturbating at her Pap's funeral,and not to mention the psycho blog writer that has a criminal record for harassment and who knows what,as a supporter?After all, we are known for the company we keep,birds of a feather,yada,yada,yada.Yes ,Terri must be so proud to have such people as friends and supporters

 

Marybeth Shafer (Schaeffer) However she spells it or whomever she is  wrote this months ago on the Terri Support page on FB.  She was an admin on that page.  Those are her own words.  No one else's.  She wrote about the masturbation about her own-self. I read it myself.

Nancy Sewell who is 42nd State and alternative theories blog does have a record for harassment.  And SL, an admin on the Terri suport page had a stint as a bondage person.

  WTH is in the water in that region? I don't mean to sound harsh, but think off all the serial killers, my friend I spoke abou that lived in Eugene and Portland lived there when Ted Bundy was there, her mother made her cut her long brunette hair and highlight it (likely I would have asked my daughter to do the same), I guess I should ask are these peeps from that region?

[neighbor]

Wait Neighbor hold the phone! You are in that area right? The school has canceled all events that parents attend? what is the reason for that? hmm interesting.

THUD........ok, that piques my interest, I will be trying to call my friend from Eugene with family in Portland

I am very close to the school, but I should have used the word "missing" instead of "canceled".  Traditional events during the school year were never scheduled.  The only event was a "no, go, yell, tell" class in the evening.  Pumking carving traditionally was at school, but this year it was hosted at a farm on SI.  Also the Christmas carols were notably absent this year.

[no rose colored glasses]

I cannot believe in this day and age that every place that has children doesn't do background checks.  I know in my community this has been expected for years and I mean at least 15 years.

But it doesn't stop the pervs for sure, does it.  because they have to be caught one time first.

If someone wants to commit a crime, you can have security, background checks, whatever, that is not going to prevent some people from doing what they want, and commit a crime.

[no rose colored glasses]

Wait Neighbor hold the phone! You are in that area right? The school has canceled all events that parents attend? what is the reason for that? hmm interesting.

THUD........ok, that piques my interest, I will be trying to call my friend from Eugene with family in Portland

I am very close to the school, but I should have used the word "missing" instead of "canceled".  Traditional events during the school year were never scheduled.  The only event was a "no, go, yell, tell" class in the evening.  Pumking carving traditionally was at school, but this year it was hosted at a farm on SI.  Also the Christmas carols were notably absent this year.

That is really too bad about the Christmas program, many kids and parents enjoy that.

[Tracygirl]

I have a gut feeling that someone, somewhere is feeling a lot of pressure right now. The blogs are getting super nasty. Especially on facebook. Here is one of many

Brandy Carey I think it's great that Terri has such fine and upstanding people to support her in her time of need.Hopefully when Terri is arrested and this goes to trial,all of the supporters will show up as character witnesses.I mean,wouldn't you just love to have a stripper,bondage queen,someone that admitted to masturbating as a... neighbor's house burned and masturbating at her Pap's funeral,and not to mention the psycho blog writer that has a criminal record for harassment and who knows what,as a supporter?After all, we are known for the company we keep,birds of a feather,yada,yada,yada.Yes ,Terri must be so proud to have such people as friends and supporters

 

Marybeth Shafer (Schaeffer) However she spells it or whomever she is  wrote this months ago on the Terri Support page on FB.  She was an admin on that page.  Those are her own words.  No one else's.  She wrote about the masturbation about her own-self. I read it myself.

Nancy Sewell who is 42nd State and alternative theories blog does have a record for harassment.  And SL, an admin on the Terri suport page had a stint as a bondage person.

Does anyone know if Terri knows these people who are running the FB sites and blogs?

[Tracygirl]

I cannot believe in this day and age that every place that has children doesn't do background checks.  I know in my community this has been expected for years and I mean at least 15 years.

But it doesn't stop the pervs for sure, does it.  because they have to be caught one time first.

Not all placed do because there are loop holes in everything. It is so irresponsible it makes my head spin!

[islandmonkey]

I cannot believe in this day and age that every place that has children doesn't do background checks.  I know in my community this has been expected for years and I mean at least 15 years.

But it doesn't stop the pervs for sure, does it.  because they have to be caught one time first.

Neither can I.....

Exactly~ther is always a first, but it's better than the alternative.....my son's current school isn't locked down like his last one was in TN, kinda like Sebastian's child's school. I guess there is no way to lock it down since it is an "outside school", but our community hs no pervs on the Island that are registered  and the teachers, principal only have 1 grade of about 25 kids K-5 so it's not as huge school, but without parent volunteers it wouldn't work, it's a charter school and so dependent on parent volunteers and donations since we don't get the funding. Even LE donates as they are parked in front of it twice a day, 2 cars for the kids who walk, bike or skate and the Fire Dept helps out too, but they are so close the kids could spit on the fire house, so I guess we have so many odd layers here vs previous schools and in odd I don't mean bad, I guess I should say unusual from my experience.

[Tracygirl]

Wait Neighbor hold the phone! You are in that area right? The school has canceled all events that parents attend? what is the reason for that? hmm interesting.

THUD........ok, that piques my interest, I will be trying to call my friend from Eugene with family in Portland

I am very close to the school, but I should have used the word "missing" instead of "canceled".  Traditional events during the school year were never scheduled.  The only event was a "no, go, yell, tell" class in the evening.  Pumking carving traditionally was at school, but this year it was hosted at a farm on SI.  Also the Christmas carols were notably absent this year.

That is very interesting and could tell me they are not quite sure about a parent or two but what could they really do? They can't uninvite somebody based on a thought.

[Tracygirl]

Wait Neighbor hold the phone! You are in that area right? The school has canceled all events that parents attend? what is the reason for that? hmm interesting.

THUD........ok, that piques my interest, I will be trying to call my friend from Eugene with family in Portland

I am very close to the school, but I should have used the word "missing" instead of "canceled".  Traditional events during the school year were never scheduled.  The only event was a "no, go, yell, tell" class in the evening.  Pumking carving traditionally was at school, but this year it was hosted at a farm on SI.  Also the Christmas carols were notably absent this year.

That is really too bad about the Christmas program, many kids and parents enjoy that.

Your right, it is sad.

[Tracygirl]

Question to anyone not as drain bamaged as I am at this point, did the profile posted from BOC come from Blink or FBI?

TIA

hmmm I believe a combination of both? Do you mind bringing it over here?

I

LOL~Why do you think I asked tee he he....ok, I'll take my feeble mind and go look. Also, dis you see my longgg post about what can adn can't be done in FL in regards to the SO? Of course, again FL's laws could be different, but when you have a flyer posted every 12 feet, it is more effective.

Sorry I thought you had it already. I can try to find it and post.

[islandmonkey]

Wait Neighbor hold the phone! You are in that area right? The school has canceled all events that parents attend? what is the reason for that? hmm interesting.

THUD........ok, that piques my interest, I will be trying to call my friend from Eugene with family in Portland

I am very close to the school, but I should have used the word "missing" instead of "canceled".  Traditional events during the school year were never scheduled.  The only event was a "no, go, yell, tell" class in the evening.  Pumking carving traditionally was at school, but this year it was hosted at a farm on SI.  Also the Christmas carols were notably absent this year.

I get it, still interesting and I am glad to hear about the NO GO YELL TELL class, all kids should be armed in knowledge and trust gut instincts. It's so sad we have to balance arming our kids without scaring the he77 out of them, when I grew up my parents never thought anything about us going to school and being snatched and we played outside and roamed until dark. Wow, I long for the days for my kids but not going to happen......

We just had our Christmas program about 2 weeks ago and Thursday we had Christmas breakfast with our kids, and we had the prof of marine biology that teaches our kids on his off days from UWF there, and a few other special guest. I can't imagine having nothing, but if I thought it gave one more kid a fighting chance, I say go for it.

[sebastian]

I have a gut feeling that someone, somewhere is feeling a lot of pressure right now. The blogs are getting super nasty. Especially on facebook. Here is one of many

Brandy Carey I think it's great that Terri has such fine and upstanding people to support her in her time of need.Hopefully when Terri is arrested and this goes to trial,all of the supporters will show up as character witnesses.I mean,wouldn't you just love to have a stripper,bondage queen,someone that admitted to masturbating as a... neighbor's house burned and masturbating at her Pap's funeral,and not to mention the psycho blog writer that has a criminal record for harassment and who knows what,as a supporter?After all, we are known for the company we keep,birds of a feather,yada,yada,yada.Yes ,Terri must be so proud to have such people as friends and supporters

 

Marybeth Shafer (Schaeffer) However she spells it or whomever she is  wrote this months ago on the Terri Support page on FB.  She was an admin on that page.  Those are her own words.  No one else's.  She wrote about the masturbation about her own-self. I read it myself.

Nancy Sewell who is 42nd State and alternative theories blog does have a record for harassment.  And SL, an admin on the Terri suport page had a stint as a bondage person.

Hi HelloKitty,
OMG! Marybeth sounds like she is in desperate need of some therapy. It is starting to make some sense to me now. I kept wondering why these women were so illiterate and just plain mean when there is a missing child. To be fair, there has been nasty things said from both sides, but the TH supporters really hit below the belt on their facebook site. I truly believe that BOTH Kaine and Terri have some ugly skeletons which is why I think that this case has been so dang nasty. Nancy Sewell has been alluding to a K-Y blog for a while now, which stands for Kaine Lies. She has posted its website on the Kaine Horman Reality Show on facebook FINALLY. The catch, you have to DONATE to her Alternate Theories site to see it. Are you kidding me?

[Fanny Mae]

Background checks should be absolutely done on volunteers at school. I am all for it. It may weed out some of the "bad apples." It may not catch all of them, but it is better than nothing. I am sure many of the parents wouldn't volunteer for anything because they had an embarrassing record, such as a bad check charge at one time or something of that nature.

All this talk about volunteers being under suspicion reminds me of the searchers for TES. Volunteer, and you are drug into a murder case. If you happened to be there that day and your name is on the list, you may be discussed on the blogs and threads, innocent or not. I have a feeling it throws ice water on others that want to volunteer. Not that I don't think there should be a discussion. Some would just hate to have been there that day and their personal life was discussed and their background was put out there. Just sayin'.  I realize we are talking about a little boy being missing or worse. So I do believe everything possible should be done. I am just saying that most of us would just be glad it wasn't us there that day and see our names and family's being posted on the list being made public. It's a conundrum.  JMO

[Tracygirl]

Is this the profile you were talking about IM?

“I think suspect zero in this case has a description, but that’s it. I pray I am wrong.
B
**It is a commonly used investigative term when there is no suspect but a profile.
B

**
Blink, can you please share suspect zero’s description/profile with us?
Prayers for Kyron

Opportunist Sexual Predator Pedophile- Highly organized offender, serial.
No kids of his own, possible divorce.

Possibly dated someone with kids in the area.

Skills or resources to go underground quickly and for sustained periods of time.

Able to function undetected in the community, but familiar enough to fit in.

No electronic footprint, but has masterful IT skills

Has had access to Skyline prior to 6/4/10 possibly through work, which I would guess is construction/electric/plumbing related.

Before you ask, yes, I believe Kyron ran into him in the “Cool Electric” Science Fair displays.

I have no idea how he might be connected to TH or RS, and neither does MCSO or they would have a suspect.

If he is profiling low risk kids (in his opinion) it would be his MO to have been around his victims and have a level of understanding of their family dynamic. In other words, he has assessed in advance

Imo, that is the missing link. I believe they have a physical description of him, thus the facial recognition portion of the cameras and the statement it was an isolated incident. That is the only way that statement does not sound irresponsible to me.

He will set off some people’s “satellites”, but with no obvious justification.