Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #38 12/18/10 - 12/24/10

[sebastian]

Does anyone think that Timur Van Dykes could look like the sketch on page 12?

[sebastian]

Here is a different photo and a Portland address of 1431 SE MLK Blvd, Portland, OR 97214

[Brandi]

Does anyone think that Timur Van Dykes could look like the sketch on page 12?

Did a little photoshopping, adding the glasses.

It just seems to me that many people tend to look like that sketch, once the glasses are put on.

(I figure it is okay to post his image because he is a convicted child molester.)

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20001050-504083.html

[islandmonkey]

Here is a different photo and a Portland address of 1431 SE MLK Blvd, Portland, OR 97214

How current is that addy? It is only 11 miles from Skyline and when Brandi put the glasses on him he does look very similar to the sketch

[islandmonkey]

This undated image made available by the State of Oregon on March 18, 2010 shows Timur Dykes. Relying on about 1,000 confidential Boy Scouts of America files, the lawyer for a man sexually abused in the 1980s by Dykes, a Scout leader who later admitted to being a serial molester, claims the organization has covered up abuse for decades. (AP Photo/State of Oregon)   

Exactly why my son was never allowed to be a boy scout......too many SO's try to obtain these type positions, or a coach, teacher anything that allows them to get closer to a child. I am so leerie that I background check my dughter's BF (sorry hon if you ever read this) and my lil man is getting a guitar for Christmas and my dad found someone that offers lessons, he already had his name and address since he KNEW I would background check him too. I found nothing but decided to let an old BF of mine teach him........I know, I know I am way too protective, but no way to undo something horrible, so better to prevent it if possible.

[sebastian]

Does anyone think that Timur Van Dykes could look like the sketch on page 12?

Did a little photoshopping, adding the glasses.

It just seems to me that many people tend to look like that sketch, once the glasses are put on.

(I figure it is okay to post his image because he is a convicted child molester.)

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20001050-504083.html

Thank you so much Brandi! You are the best!

[sebastian]

Hi Island Monkey,
The MLK address is Clark Center-Rent Well. I think it is temporary housing while these *&%%$% figure out where they are going to live. I have no idea where he is living now. He registered in Oswago Lake in May of this year, but that does not necessarily mean anything. John Gardner was registered in Lake Elsinore but was living with his mommy in Rancho Bernardo. Oswago Lake is only 20 minutes away.

[fatcatlurker]

The drawing of the perp is so vague to me.  He has similar features to both of these guys imo. 

Maybe just me but the "perp drawing" of the guy from the park appears to have bad (jagged, missing, gaps - from drawing) teeth.  So if true could rule out some right away?

[fatcatlurker]

Sebastian - I know you looked at Sandi Lessman earlier and wondered if you tied this article to her?  Anyway here's the link.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/91995929.html

[hellokitty]

 

So Cal site says that Dede's mother posts on here.  HM????

[islandmonkey]

So Cal site says that Dede's mother posts on here.  HM????

I hadn't had a chance to look but here as SM or HM as in Hinky Meter?

[no rose colored glasses]

So Cal site says that Dede's mother posts on here.  HM????

I hadn't had a chance to look but here as SM or HM as in Hinky Meter?

I was wondering what the So Cal site was?

[no rose colored glasses]

Timur Van Dykes looks a lot like that sketch, the glasses and nose.

[Tamikosmom]

I am inclined to believe that Terri Horman DID NOT leave the school with Kyron at 8:45 PM.  Could it be that prior to leaving the school Terri deceptively steered Kyron towards the "south entrance" with a story about an electric display.  Nevertheless ... when all is said and done ... Kyron was not in class 15 minutes later.

I firmly believe there is a DeDe Splicher connection.  Actually ... I believe there could be a connection between players who have emerged in the Kyron Horman case who are involved with landscaping related trades and ... that connection could involves child expoitation.

IMO

Janet

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Investigators put pressure on Terri Moulton Horman's friends, including DeDe Spicher
Published: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 7:50 PM
Updated: Friday, July 23, 2010, 9:48 AM

Detectives learned that Spicher, who shares Terri Horman's passion for fitness and gardening, was doing gardening work for a Northwest Portland homeowner on June 4. She abruptly left the house about 11:30 a.m. and didn't return until an hour to 90 minutes later.

Another person working at the home called Spicher to come in for lunch, and the homeowner called Spicher on her cell phone but she wasn't reachable. Detectives have questioned both the homeowner and the other person who was working at the home that day.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/investigators_put_pressure_on.html

Hi Tamikosmom,  I thought I read that Kyron was headed down to the basement which is where the electrical exhibit was.  If so, that is one place we have learned very little about as Sleuthers, eh?

I don't think I have seen mention of a basement even in the school info.  Anyone who knows whether or not there is one it would be most interesting.     

 

Hi Scandi

I have not read anything about the electrical displays being in the "basement".  However ... IF Kyron went to the "basement" while students were headed to the classroom and parents where leaving the school ... this could be another avenue of speculation.

Think about Annie Le.  It was a crime of opportunity ... not planned.

Janet
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Remains In Wall Assumed To Be That Of Missing Student
September 14, 2009

http://www.wfsb.com/news/20893384/detail.html

[Tamikosmom]

Sebastian - I know you looked at Sandi Lessman earlier and wondered if you tied this article to her?  Anyway here's the link.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/91995929.html

IF Terri Horman had nothing to do with the disappearance of Kyron ... the revelations regarding her character went a long way to fuel speculation in regards to her possible  participation.

It would appears with the absence of affirmation to the contrary ... his relationship with LE from the getgo which is thisclose ... Kaine's character must be above reproach or ... is it?

Janet

[Tamikosmom]

Somehow ... I do believe that Terri either participated in the disappearance of Kyron or ... her relationships/alternate lifestyles put her stepson at risk.

Nevertheless ... I have never given Kaine a pass when it came to speculation.  However ... there are those that do consider him above reproach.

Think about the gym incident a few days following Kyron's disappearance.  Posters were going up one side of Terri and down the other.  It was then revealed that Kaine had been with Terri at that workout.  All of a sudden the trip to the gym was justified.  After all ... workouts relieve tension.

I just do not understand the double standard.  I am not implying that Kaine is involved  with the disappearance of son but ... he is not a nice guy.  A nice guy supports the mother of his chlld throughout pregancy.  An extra-marital affair when she is one month away from giving birth is nothing short of cruel.

Janet

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Dateline NBC puts story of missing Kyron in national eye
Published: Monday, July 26, 2010, 11:17 PM
Updated: Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 4:26 PM

Desiree Young also elaborated on her split with Kaine Horman in 2002, saying that her then-husband struck up a relationship with Terri Moulton Horman while she was eight months pregnant.

“It was pretty hard to handle,” Young said. “I cried solid for two months and didn't leave the bedroom, because I didn't understand why she somehow equated to something better than me and my son.”

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/dateline_nbc_highlights_puts_s.html

[Patricia Mocha Latte]

Here are a few observations, correct me if I am wrong.

KH's work schedule allowed for him to be able to work from home several hours during his day.
It seems that Terri and Kaine both liked to work out.
It appears that there were possibly more together hours than most peoples lives allow.
Kaine does not complain that Terri spent an unusual amount of time away from their home.

Kaine denies knowing DeDe Spicher, yet Kaine himself called DeDe and asked her to plan Terri's b-day party. Why?
Kaine and Terri had mutual friends.

Kaine shaved his head at one point during this investigation.
Note: I am not certain that he does not do that often, however, there are no past pictures that I have seen that would argue/indicate that he did.
If it is not normal behavior for him, is there a reason why Kaine shaved his head?

[Patricia Mocha Latte]

This undated image made available by the State of Oregon on March 18, 2010 shows Timur Dykes. Relying on about 1,000 confidential Boy Scouts of America files, the lawyer for a man sexually abused in the 1980s by Dykes, a Scout leader who later admitted to being a serial molester, claims the organization has covered up abuse for decades. (AP Photo/State of Oregon)   

I wonder if he is connected to any of the people in the "community" that Sandi spoke about?

[neighbor]

I am inclined to believe that Terri Horman DID NOT leave the school with Kyron at 8:45 PM.  Could it be that prior to leaving the school Terri deceptively steered Kyron towards the "south entrance" with a story about an electric display.  Nevertheless ... when all is said and done ... Kyron was not in class 15 minutes later.

I firmly believe there is a DeDe Splicher connection.  Actually ... I believe there could be a connection between players who have emerged in the Kyron Horman case who are involved with landscaping related trades and ... that connection could involves child expoitation.

IMO

Janet

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Investigators put pressure on Terri Moulton Horman's friends, including DeDe Spicher
Published: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 7:50 PM
Updated: Friday, July 23, 2010, 9:48 AM

Detectives learned that Spicher, who shares Terri Horman's passion for fitness and gardening, was doing gardening work for a Northwest Portland homeowner on June 4. She abruptly left the house about 11:30 a.m. and didn't return until an hour to 90 minutes later.

Another person working at the home called Spicher to come in for lunch, and the homeowner called Spicher on her cell phone but she wasn't reachable. Detectives have questioned both the homeowner and the other person who was working at the home that day.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/investigators_put_pressure_on.html

Hi Tamikosmom,  I thought I read that Kyron was headed down to the basement which is where the electrical exhibit was.  If so, that is one place we have learned very little about as Sleuthers, eh?

I don't think I have seen mention of a basement even in the school info.  Anyone who knows whether or not there is one it would be most interesting.     

 

Hi Scandi

I have not read anything about the electrical displays being in the "basement".  However ... IF Kyron went to the "basement" while students were headed to the classroom and parents where leaving the school ... this could be another avenue of speculation.

Think about Annie Le.  It was a crime of opportunity ... not planned.

Janet
_______

Remains In Wall Assumed To Be That Of Missing Student
September 14, 2009

http://www.wfsb.com/news/20893384/detail.html

Assuming that the statement of the "cool electrical display" is correct.  Then assume it really was there, and that Ky was not told about something that wasn't there ...
- One classroom was dedicated to well done electrical displays.  IIRC that was in CR209 or next doors to it. 
- There was a small one in CR109 or CR110 in the basement.

[no rose colored glasses]

Thank-you neighbor for explaining that about the electrical projects, so one room upstairs and one room in the basement. This has been driving me nuts where the projects were.