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« Reply #100 on: February 18, 2012, 04:52:01 PM »

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/nyregion/more-human-remains-are-found-on-long-island.html
More Human Remains Are Found on Long Island
By AL BAKER
February 18, 2012

Another set of human remains was discovered in a wooded area of eastern Long Island that has become a dumping ground for bodies over the years, the authorities said on Saturday.

The question now is whether the skeletal remains, found on Friday evening by a man walking his dog on a trail in Manorville, represent an isolated death or is the latest clue in a continuing serial-killer case that is confronting investigators in Suffolk County.

“At this time, we cannot say if the remains are connected to any other cases,” a police spokeswoman said on Saturday. “The scene will be processed and re-evaluated to see if any further searching is necessary. At this point, we are at the preliminary stages of the investigation”

The spokeswoman said that investigators “cannot yet determine the age or gender of the remains.”

The police said a forensic anthropologist from the New York City medical examiner’s office would assist the Suffolk authorities in removing and evaluating the bones, which they said were believed to have been in the woods for several years based on the degree of plant growth around them.
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« Reply #101 on: February 18, 2012, 04:54:52 PM »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/police-probe-latest-skeletal-remains-found-in-rural-area-on-long-island/2012/02/18/gIQAF6C3LR_story.html
Police probe latest skeletal remains found in rural area on Long Island
February 18, 2012

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The latest set of bones was discovered at around 6:30 p.m. Friday in a pine barrens in Manorville. A resident of the town, Matt Samuel, said he was walking through the area with his dog when he made the find.
“I probably walked by it a hundred times before, and I saw it kind of sticking out of the ground, and it looked unusual. I looked a little closer and from there discovered that it was human remains,” he said, adding that it looked like the body had decomposed many years ago. “It was wrapped in bed sheets and a plastic bag, It was a whole body, but just the bones, there was trees growing up through it, so it has been there a long time.”

Suffolk County Police said the undergrowth suggested the body had been dumped about five years ago, but an anthropologist was being brought in to examine the site. The age, gender and identity of the person were unknown.
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Suffolk County Deputy Inspector Kevin Fallon told reporters Saturday that it was too early to tell whether the new skeleton is related to any of those other cases.

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« Reply #102 on: February 23, 2012, 11:43:20 AM »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/police-probe-latest-skeletal-remains-found-in-rural-area-on-long-island/2012/02/18/gIQAF6C3LR_story.html
Police probe latest skeletal remains found in rural area on Long Island
February 18, 2012

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The latest set of bones was discovered at around 6:30 p.m. Friday in a pine barrens in Manorville. A resident of the town, Matt Samuel, said he was walking through the area with his dog when he made the find.
“I probably walked by it a hundred times before, and I saw it kind of sticking out of the ground, and it looked unusual. I looked a little closer and from there discovered that it was human remains,” he said, adding that it looked like the body had decomposed many years ago. “It was wrapped in bed sheets and a plastic bag, It was a whole body, but just the bones, there was trees growing up through it, so it has been there a long time.”

Suffolk County Police said the undergrowth suggested the body had been dumped about five years ago, but an anthropologist was being brought in to examine the site. The age, gender and identity of the person were unknown.
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Suffolk County Deputy Inspector Kevin Fallon told reporters Saturday that it was too early to tell whether the new skeleton is related to any of those other cases.

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« Reply #103 on: March 24, 2012, 04:12:19 PM »

MANORVILLE REMAINS recently found unrelated

Man Admits Dumping Body in LI Woodland: Police
The body was discovered Wednesday in a pine barrens in Manorville, a town whose secluded forest trails have been used several times in the past as a dumping ground for dead bodies.
Saturday, Mar 24, 2012  |  Updated 1:55 PM ED

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/manor...-144092386.html

Police say a man has admitted leaving his girlfriend's body in a Long Island woodland after she died of a drug overdose.

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Police later identified the woman as Pura Simancas, of Central Islip.
 
Newsday reports that her boyfriend, Matthew Kraus, was arraigned Friday on a misdemeanor charge of disposing a body without a permit.
 
Kraus told police he and Simancas were doing heroin and prescription drugs with friends when she died. He said the group panicked and took her body into the woods in late February.
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« Reply #104 on: April 06, 2012, 08:36:18 AM »


More possible human remains found on Long Island
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Police on Long Island are trying to determine whether bones discovered in a wooded area are human or from an animal.
 
Newsday (http://bit.ly/HgE3kC ) reports that the bones were found Wednesday in an area off Gerard Road, near Patchogue-Yaphank Road.
 
Yaphank is about 10 miles from Manorville, where six instances of human remains have been found since 2000.
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http://www.uticaod.com/latestnews/x2020327442/More-possible-human-remains-found-on-Long-Island
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« Reply #105 on: June 23, 2012, 11:57:26 PM »

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18559_162-57459100/was-shannan-gilbert-a-victim-of-the-long-island-serial-killer/
Was Shannan Gilbert a victim of the Long Island serial killer?
June 23, 2012

(CBS) OAK BEACH, Long Island -- In the hours after midnight on May 1, 2010, Shannan Gilbert, an escort on her way to a job, drove past the place where the bones of the Long Island serial killer's victims lay hidden in the brush. She didn't know it then, but the mysterious events of the next few hours would forever link her to those four women and spark one of the largest murder investigations in long island history. And so it began.

"My sister was last seen running along the roads...She was in fear for her life that night," Sherre Gilbert told "48 Hours Mystery" correspondent Erin Moriarty. "And that was it... She just disappeared into the night."
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« Reply #106 on: June 24, 2012, 12:39:29 AM »

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18559_162-57459100/was-shannan-gilbert-a-victim-of-the-long-island-serial-killer/
Was Shannan Gilbert a victim of the Long Island serial killer?
June 23, 2012

(CBS) OAK BEACH, Long Island -- In the hours after midnight on May 1, 2010, Shannan Gilbert, an escort on her way to a job, drove past the place where the bones of the Long Island serial killer's victims lay hidden in the brush. She didn't know it then, but the mysterious events of the next few hours would forever link her to those four women and spark one of the largest murder investigations in long island history. And so it began.

"My sister was last seen running along the roads...She was in fear for her life that night," Sherre Gilbert told "48 Hours Mystery" correspondent Erin Moriarty. "And that was it... She just disappeared into the night."
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Well, if she is a victim of him/them then wouldn't it make one or all of the mentioned three the Long Island serial killer?  That creeps me out.
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« Reply #107 on: March 23, 2013, 04:49:52 PM »

Long Island Serial Killer? Yet Another Body Discovered In Woods Near Manorvile (VIDEO)


Posted: 03/22/2012 2:16 pm Updated: 03/22/2012 2:30 pm
Police are investigating the discovery of yet another body found in a wooded area near Manorville on Long Island. ABC News reports:

A jogger discovered the body, facedown, on Wednesday afternoon. Police have not said if it's a man or a woman, but they say it was dumped relatively recently and had not decayed too much. They hope that helps with the identification process and to determine the cause of death.   ::snipping2::

Wednesday's discovery also occurred just miles away from where two torsos were found 10 years ago, and adds to a growing list of bodies found in the remote stretch of beachside communities on Long Island. It is the 12th body discovered in the region since 1996, the majority of which were uncovered after December, 2010. Only five of the bodies have been identified. Authorities suspect several of the bodies were dumped by a serial killer targeting prostitutes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/22/long-island-serial-killer-manorville-body-discovered-march-2012_n_1373150.html?utm_hp_ref=long-island-serial-killer
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« Reply #108 on: March 23, 2013, 04:51:43 PM »

Long Island Serial Killer Is Seasonal Visitor, Expert Scott Bonn Contends


Posted: 02/21/2012 2:43 pm Updated: 03/22/2012 11:54 am
Summer on Long Island brings out crowds of sun catchers to the famous beaches that line its south shore. Could one of those seasonal visitors be the infamous serial killer who is responsible for the death of nearly a dozen people, many of them believed to be prostitutes?

Police in New York have spent the last 14 months trying to determine who is responsible for the murders of nearly a dozen individuals whose remains have been found discarded on Long Island beaches.
HUGE   ::snipping2:: ::snipping2::
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/21/serial-killer-expert-dr-scott-bonn_n_1290683.html?utm_hp_ref=long-island-serial-killer
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« Reply #109 on: March 26, 2013, 09:44:37 PM »

Long Island Serial Killer Is Seasonal Visitor, Expert Scott Bonn Contends


Posted: 02/21/2012 2:43 pm Updated: 03/22/2012 11:54 am
Summer on Long Island brings out crowds of sun catchers to the famous beaches that line its south shore. Could one of those seasonal visitors be the infamous serial killer who is responsible for the death of nearly a dozen people, many of them believed to be prostitutes?

Police in New York have spent the last 14 months trying to determine who is responsible for the murders of nearly a dozen individuals whose remains have been found discarded on Long Island beaches.
HUGE   ::snipping2:: ::snipping2::
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/21/serial-killer-expert-dr-scott-bonn_n_1290683.html?utm_hp_ref=long-island-serial-killer

from same article, i didnt realize the bodies where in a row,serial killers have good memories
thats a scary thought

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« Reply #110 on: March 27, 2013, 05:26:19 PM »

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/03/27/severed-head-serial-killer/2025491/
Severed head found in 1989 linked to serial killer
March 27, 2013

A woman whose severed head was found on a New Jersey golf course more than 20 years ago has been identified, and police say the trail leads to a notorious serial killer.
Almost 25 years after her severed head was found on a New Jersey golf course, police on Wednesday identified the woman they believe was the first victim of a notorious Long Island serial killer.

New Jersey State Police said Heidi Balch is believed to be the first of 17 women killed by Joel Rifkin during a four-year spree that ended when he was pulled over for a missing license plate in 1993 with a dead women's body in the back of his pickup.

Authorities have long believed the woman whose severed head was found in March 1989 on a golf course in Hopewell Township, near Trenton, was the first woman Rifkin killed. He all but admitted it after his 1993 arrest, when he provided details on where he disposed of her head and legs.

Rifkin was eventually sentenced to more than 200 years in prison for the killings. But Balch's identity remained a mystery for more than two decades.

State Police Det. Sgt. Stephen Urbanski said Balch's parents didn't initially list her as a missing person and because Balch, who worked as a prostitute in New York City, used several aliases and Social Security numbers.
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Rifkin had told police he killed a prostitute he'd known as "Susie," Urbanski said. The search led to New York where investigators focused on a prostitute who'd gone by the name Susan Spencer — and about 15 other names. Some of the bogus Social Security numbers she'd used were traced to Ohio and Florida, so Urbanski went to those states to check missing persons reports.

Finally, investigators learned the woman had once used the name Heidi Balch, who had been listed as a missing person in New York by her aunt in 2001. Even that discovery was complicated by the revelation that the last sighting of Balch was in 1995, six years after the remains were found on the golf course. Urbanski said it was later revealed Balch's aunt hadn't actually seen her niece but that someone had mistakenly told her they had seen Heidi.

The big break came earlier this month when Balch's aunt identified her niece from an arrest photo of Susan Spencer. Subsequent DNA tests of Balch's mother and father, who live in Maryland and Florida, respectively, confirmed the identification.

Balch's parents "expressed shock," Urbanski said. "They knew in their hearts something bad had happened to her, but not to this extent. I don't think they ever imagined she was the first victim of Joel Rifkin."

Urbanski said state police are in the process of reviewing cases of unidentified bodies found in New Jersey from the time Balch's remains were found up until Rifkin's arrest.
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« Reply #111 on: February 09, 2014, 08:14:11 PM »

I've posted the link and a snippet from the article below in regard to the "Gilgo Beach Murders", which are referenced in it.  According to the article, there is no connection between the West Mesa Murders and the Gilgo Beach Murders. For anyone interested,  here's the link to the West Mesa Murders at SM:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4601.0
Albuquerque's Murder Mystery...body count 13 / New Mexico (ALL 13 ID'd)

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/02/09/five-years-after-mass-grave-discovered-albuquerque-killings-remain-unsolved/?cmpid=edpick&google_editors_picks=true
Five years after mass grave discovered, Albuquerque killings remain unsolved
February 9, 2014

 
In the last half-decade, connections to other mass killings have been investigated and dismissed, and suspicion has focused on various drifters and criminals only to see them cleared. Authorities insist they won’t stop until they solve what is known locally as the “West Mesa murders.”
 
A study by Purdue University researchers found that serial murders have declined, but when they do occur, victims are increasingly likely to be prostitutes. A year after the bodies at West Mesa were found, a similar mass grave containing the remains of six women was discovered 2,000 miles away on Long Island, N.Y.  Authorities probed a possible connection between the Albuquerque case and what became known as New York's “Gilgo Beach Murders,” but determined there is no connection.

But the cases bear similarities, and have one troubling aspect in common: They remain unsolved.

“We are not commenting further at this time on the Gilgo investigation until/unless we have some additional information pertaining to the investigation that serves the public by its release,” Suffolk County Police Deputy Inspector Kevin Fallon told FoxNews.com.
 
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« Reply #112 on: March 12, 2015, 06:22:30 PM »

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/03/12/prostitute-found-dead-near-ny-serial-killers-dumping-ground-likely-murdered/
Prostitute found dead near NY serial killer’s dumping ground possibly murdered, says famed coroner
March 10, 2015

The remains of a New York-area escort whose body was found in 2011 near a mass grave of prostitutes were buried Thursday, four days after a renowned coroner told Fox News she may have been murdered -- a development that could be a break in the hunt for a Long Island serial killer.

Shannan Gilbert, 23, of Jersey City, N.J., disappeared May 1, 2010, after visiting a client in the gated community of Oak Beach on a barrier island off Long Island's south shore. A months-long search for her first led to the bodies of four other prostitutes, each strangled and stuffed in burlap bags along Ocean Parkway, a 15-mile road that spans Jones Beach, roughly a mile from where they would later find Gilbert's body, in December 2011.

After the discovery of Gilbert's remains, the medical examiner ruled her cause of death "undetermined," and police theorized she drowned while running through a marsh in a drug-induced state -- calling her death unrelated to the four victims of a suspected serial killer.

"It's extremely rare for a young woman to die of drowning yards away from where four young women have clearly been murdered. The statistics don't go along with that."- Dr. Michael Baden, former New York City chief medical examiner
That finding was called into question Monday, when Dr. Michael Baden, former chief medical examiner of New York City, and a Fox News contributor, examined Gilbert's skeletonized remains inside a Nassau County funeral home at the request of her family.

Baden observed the hyoid bone -- a small horseshoe-shaped bone in the neck -- had a "rough edge" on one side, suggesting a fracture. He is conducting further testing on the bone and is seeking original crime scene and medical examiner photos and X-rays for analysis. A fracture to the hyoid bone is a hallmark sign of a strangulation.

"The hyoid shows some breakage," Baden told FoxNews.com. "If it is a fracture, that would be strong evidence Ms. Gilbert was strangled to death by neck compression."

The 80-year-old coroner, who served as New York City's chief medical examiner in the 1970's, reported other oddities and omissions from the original autopsy reports.

No drugs were found in Gilbert's body, according to toxicology reports cited in the 2011 autopsy -- a finding at odds with the police theory that she ran off into the night in a drug-fueled frenzy. Gilbert's thyroid cartilage was missing from the remains Baden examined, but the original examination does not report it as missing, Baden said. And a small, circular hole was found in the center of the hyoid bone, a marking Baden called unusual and warranting further analysis.

The former escort's remains were buried Thursday, some four years after they were found in a marsh on New York's Long Island, near the bodies of four murdered prostitutes.
Baden is also ordering a "diatom test," which may determine whether Gilbert drowned. The test was never done on Gilbert, who was found face up and about a half a mile from her torn jeans, cellphone and pocketbook.

"The body is almost always face down -- not face up -- in drowning situations," Baden said. "There's enough evidence here to warrant a second look."
 
The suggestion that Gilbert might have been murdered is significant because she is linked to three known individuals in the hours before and after her disappearance: Her driver, Michael Pak; her client, Oak Beach resident Joseph Brewer; and another Oak Beach resident, Dr. Charles Peter Hackett, who called Gilbert's mother two days after she vanished, according to phone records.

Shortly after midnight on May 1, 2010, Gilbert responded to an online inquiry from Brewer, who lived in the isolated, gated community of Oak Beach. Pak transported Gilbert to Brewer's home and waited outside.

For reasons that remain unknown, Gilbert fled on foot from Brewer's home and made a 23-minute 911 call in which she said, "They're trying to kill me," according to law enforcement sources. Almost five years later, a complete transcript of the tape has yet to be released to the media.

Hackett and Brewer were ruled out by the Suffolk County Police Department, which did not begin searching for Gilbert until six months after she disappeared in December 2010 -- even though Gilbert was reported missing within two days of her disappearance.

"I feel the police department dropped the ball in such a way that it gives rise to the question of why?" said attorney John Ray, who represents the Gilbert family and who has spent four years gathering evidence and interviewing more than 20 people in the case.

"They did a very inadequate job," Ray said of the Suffolk County Police -- the highest paid police force in the nation. "Not once has anyone with the police department reached out to me to say, 'Hey what do you have? Is there anything you have that could help us?' I've managed to obtain substantial records in this case which I am certain the police never tried to obtain."

Ray has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Hackett, alleging the former Oak Beach resident gave Shannan a drug the night she disappeared that resulted in her death. Hackett, meanwhile, has maintained his innocence, telling investigators he never encountered the woman.

According to Gilbert's mother, Mari, Hackett called her home in upstate New York on May 3 -- two days after Shannan disappeared. Hackett, who once worked as head of emergency services for Suffolk County, allegedly told her he was running a home for "wayward girls" and that he had tried to treat Gilbert.

"Hackett told Mari that Shannan was in this home he was running," Ray claims. "He said Shannan left with her driver and promised to return. When she didn't, he said he got concerned and that's why he was calling."

The cellphone call was not made from Oak Beach but from New Jersey, near where Gilbert lived, according to cellphone records obtained by Ray. A second call was also made by Hackett to Gilbert's mother that Thursday, according to Ray. 

Hackett initially denied making any calls, but when confronted by another news network with phone records, he remembered making the second call. He claims he had forgotten about it and was merely calling the family to express his concern, according to Ray. Gilbert's boyfriend had scoured the area for her the day after she disappeared and had knocked on Hackett's door.

Hackett's attorney, James O'Rourke, said his client has nothing to do with Gilbert's death.
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