BODY COUNT 11 (1 child) on Long Island beaches NY (6 ID'd)

[MuffyBee]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/long-island-serial-killer-bones-found-jones-beach/story?id=13346276
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Hunt for Long Island Serial Killer Turns Up More Bones
Bones of an 18-Month-Old-Toddler Are Found on Long Island Beach
April 11, 2011

Investigators hunting for a serial killing "animal" found two more sets of bones on New York beaches today, raising the number of possible victims to 10.
The medical examiner on Long Island, however, is trying to determine today whether one set of bones is human or animal. One of the remains was just a skull, police said.

Police sources also revealed to ABC News today that one of the bodies is that of a toddler about 18-months old. It was not clear if the child was connected to the serial killer's murderous spree.

Investigative sources told ABC News that there are multiple persons of interest who may be linked to the bodies on the Long Island beaches and to missing prostitute Shannan Gilbert, whose body has not been found. Among those persons of interest are several who have links to law enforcement and have knowledge of or regular access to the beaches, sources to ABC News.

"We want to bring to justice this animal that has obviously taken the lives of a number of people," Nassau County Executive Edward Mangano said.

The latest discovery was about five miles from where eight other bodies were located, and about 1.5 miles east from the popular Jones Beach.
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[Samarie]

FWIW - JVM is reporting a 10th set of remains have been discovered, but LE is awaiting confirmation from the ME's office that they are human. Also reported thata toddler's body was one of the 3 sets of remains found last week.

[KittyMom]

I have a question.  Are there no buzzards in LI?  Here in the south, buzzards would be apparent relatively quickly over remains.  I'm just wondering why no one noticed the birds gathered along the roadway unless they aren't common to the area.

Hi KittyMom!

I know we had vultures when I lived in Maine, so I susoect they have them in NY as well, but I believe they are not typically a species that hangs out on the coast. However, seagulls are scavengers that may have been attracted to remains, but wouldn't draw much attention near a beach.

Thanks.  I know that we have buzzards along the marshes.  Never seen one on the beach, but we don't really have anything big enough to attract a bird that size.  Around here, if you hit a deer with your car, it's barely dead before multiple buzzards show up to feast. 

[KittyMom]

So, are there 10 sets of remains that include a toddler and a skull or are there 9 sets of remains that include the toddler and the skull.  I'm seeing both numbers and its confusing.

[KittyMom]

http://www.newsday.com/news/breaking/grizzly-new-details-in-barrier-island-case-1.2811767
Grizzly new details in barrier island case

One victim was a child, perhaps no older than 5, discovered near the remains of an adult. The child was found wrapped in a blanket.

Another discovery consisted of a human head in a plastic bag.
--A third set of remains showed signs of dismemberment.
 

[KittyMom]

http://www.nbc40.net/news/17186/
ATL. CO. OFFICIALS CONFIRM INVOLVEMENT IN NY POTENTIAL SERIAL KILLER INVESTIGATION

[KittyMom]

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-03-05/news/28673741_1_megan-waterman-akeem-cruz-gilgo-beach
Laptop of pimp Akeem Cruz targeted in probe of slain bodies dumped on Long Island beach

[KittyMom]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/12/15/2010-12-15_seeking_clues_in_beach_slayings_cops_swarm_long_island_house_where_hooker_shanno.html

Investigators swarmed a Long Island home where a missing New Jersey hooker was last seen - three miles from where the bodies of four women have been found

It's unclear if police hunting for a possible serial killer consider the man Gilbert visited a suspect. A resident of the beachfront community described him as an oddball.

"One night about two months ago, he parked a U-Haul van on the side of the house. It was the strangest thing," the neighbor added.

"He and another man were packing the truck up in the dark. They moved real fast. It took about fifteen minutes. They didn't turn any lights on except one little light. That was the last time I saw him."

The man declined comment when reached by phone yesterday, and his family said they knew nothing about the case.

Interesting.  Sounds like LE have a lead.

[KittyMom]

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Police-Pursue-Links-Among-Scattered-Remains-119685839.html
Police Pursue Links Among Scattered Remains

A source has told NBC New York that there are more "dissimilarities than similarities" among the findings, leading police to theorize that there may be no connection between the first four bodies found last year and the remains recovered in recent weeks.

What are the chances that two serial killers used the same small area?   

[Samarie]

Valhall's picked up on this story....

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/04/12/the-long-island-murders-when-will-the-count-stop/#more-6636

[MOMDET]

Are there any known "Missing Children" in that area that fit the description?

[Nut44x4]

I have not had a chance to look yet.

here are some details:

Sources with intimate knowledge of the case informed the Boston Herald about significant details regarding the case, including more information regarding the unusual remains found.

A child’s remains were found wrapped in a blanket amongst the adult bodies. The remains indicate the youngster is probably less than 5 years old. Authorities are still unsure as to whether the child is actually linked to the serial killer slayings, as the murderer appears to have thus far soley targeted adult female prostitutes.
A human head was discovered in a plastic bag.
A third set of remains indicated the body may have been dismembered.
The four female victims found in December had been strangled, with one still having an “item” around her neck.
The skull and vertebra found were examined and are likely that of a woman.
The four Gilgo Beach victims found were all women who worked as prostitutes and advertised their services on Craigslist.
At least one set of human bones was found stuffed in a black plastic bag.

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http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/craigslist-long-island-serial-killer-update-details-of-murders-emerge-video

[MuffyBee]

http://www.northjersey.com/news/crime_courts/041311_PolicePolice to search water in LI beach remains investigation _to_search_water_in_LI_beach_remains_investigation.html
The Record
Associated Press
April 13, 2011

YAPHANK, N.Y.  — Police divers plan to search an inlet along a New York beach highway where 10 sets of human remains have been found.
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Newsday says divers will concentrate on Hemlock Cove on Wednesday.

Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer is planning an afternoon media briefing on the investigation.
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[Sister]

No matter the occupations of the women, if I lived in that area I would be terrified.

[Northern Rose]

Long Island serial killer? Search to expand into neighboring county – CBS News

(CBS/WCBS/AP) OAK BEACH, N.Y. – The search on a Long Island barrier island for additional victims of a possible serial killer after eight bodies have been discovered in the area since December is expected to expand from Suffolk county into neighboring Nassau County in the coming days.

According to CBS affiliate WCBS, on Wednesday about two dozen police cadets conducted a search on foot while officers using fire truck ladders and buckets got a view from the air near a residential area known as West Gilgo Beach.

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Police have identified the four bodies found in December as Amber Lynn Costello, 27, originally of Wilmington, N.C.; Megan Waterman, 22, of Scarborough, Maine; Maureen Brainard-Barnes, 28, of Norwich, Conn.; and Melissa Barthelemy, 24, of Buffalo, N.Y.

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http://www.sinotube.info/long-island-serial-killer-search-to-expand-into-neighboring-county-%E2%80%93-cbs-news/

[Northern Rose]

Latest LI Beach Bodies Could Be Old Joel Rifkin Victims

The hunt for the so-called Long Island Serial Killer is getting wet. After uncovering one-or-two more sets of human remains (they aren't sure about the latest set of remains) in Nassau County on Monday, authorities are taking their hunt to the high seas. Teams of four Suffolk marine bureau divers are expected today to start searching Hemlock Cove, between Oak and Gilgo beaches, for further victims (and possibly the still-missing prostitute Shannan Gilbert). Meanwhile the most recent set of bones may not be the work of the Gilgo Beach killer—some suspect they are actually connected to another Long Island serial killer, Joel Rifkin

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http://gothamist.com/2011/04/13/latest_li_beach_bodies_could_be_old.php

[Northern Rose]

Bodies of man, tot found at Long Island beach add twist to call girl serial-murder case

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2011/04/13/2011-04-13_bodies_of_man__tot_add_twist_to_call_girl_serialmurder_case.html

[Nut44x4]

New remains may be the work of serial killer Joel Rifkin
Police not sure if separate serial killers using same dumping ground

Authorities say at least one victim was smothered or strangled

Body disposal, DNA evidence and way victims died may suggest more than one murderer

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1376561/Craigslist-Ripper-New-bodies-belong-serial-killer-Joel-Rifkin.html

JOEL RIFKIN:
http://www.biography.com/articles/Joel-Rifkin-11930477

[Nut44x4]

Latest New York beach remains may belong to victims of notorious Long Island butcher

NEW YORK -- The skull and torso found on a desolate New York beach were too old to be connected to the serial killings of four Craigslist call girls, and could belong to victims of notorious Long Island butcher Joel Rifkin, the New York Post reported Wednesday.

"These [remains] are so old that roots were growing around the vertebrae and the skull," a source said.

"These could be one or two of Joel Rifkin's victims who were never found," or the work of another killer, the source added.

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[KittyMom]

Did Rifkin kill children?