Lively Case Discussion #586 3/2 - 3/6/2007

[Tibrogargan]

Looks like all the monkeys are :  
 I don't see a sweeping or mopping smiley ?
BBL - have a good evening Klaas  - or at least what is left of it over there.

[klaasend]

Looks like all the monkeys are :  
 I don't see a sweeping or mopping smiley ?
BBL - have a good evening Klaas  - or at least what is left of it over there.

See you later Tibro!  I'm going to call it a night soon myself!

[LilPuma]

Here you go, Tibro.  I had to clean up the kitty litter.  

[Tibrogargan]

Thanks LilPuma - I can put that to good use  
Did you catch the item I posted about Dalai Lama and Irwin Zoo in Aussie thread?  I would love to be able to attend.

[sirensong]

Hey everybody! Just wanted to throw a few things out there and see what you all think.  I was reading Shango's posts, (and I think he knew alot about what was going on)and it got me to thinking about other possibilities.

I wonder if  "the house of Rave" could be someones initials. I did see a guy who has the initials AR that is important to Aruba and involved in alot of things.

Shango mentions that "the lions don't have to leave the den" which makes me think they watch on closed circuit TV or cameras.  It makes me think that is why the cameras were not working outside of the Holiday Inn.  I think they are purposely turned off so no one can see who going  in.  Remember  the room that was "refurbished".  Maybe that is why the guy that owned the security company left so quickly.  

I think Shango was trying to say that Natalee was taken from Joran by "the lions", and if that is the case, that could be why Joran was protected by the police force.  Joran went straight to his dad because he didn't know how to "fix" it without either getting arrested for kidnap/murder, or executed for telling what he knows by his buyers. They knew he wasn't guilty and Paulus was having a fit that Joran would be in danger.  So he calls on Vander Stratten to please don't allow this to happen.  They are turning thier heads to what really happened to Natalee from fear of the people they think are really involved.

Started thinking that maybe this is why K2 asked "how is the girl?", knowing she was drugged and given to someone, but not knowing she was murdered.  JK2 just acted as "pimps" and got paid to bring a girl.  And that is where they get their money, from drugging and pimping out unsuspecting girls (20 times)

Anyway, last night I had so many ideas going around in my head, that I started to think that Natalee could possibly still be alive, maybe she was trafficked.  Never thought that was possible before.   Just my own personal musings and figurings.  Maybe I shouldn't tango.  

[Patti]

Well, I'm gonna hop in bed, too.

Good Nite, Klaas

[IBE]

Hi Sirensong Very early it was mentioned that one of the pimps' fathers was in the business of providing camera and other security devices, checking up on rooms in major hotels.

I don't know if this is the same father who ran the Visibility Team on the beach, around the hotels (and in them?) Put there was a pimp suspect related to that dad and was on the team for a while, underage.

I'd like Klaas to tell us the name of the pimps who's dad has the Visibility team and the name of the pimp who had the contract for the security cameras in the hotels. Was the pimp who was the deal at the casino and ran so fast to Holland, the son of the man running the camera or the son of the Visibility team.

It was said that a very famous star picture was taken naked, no known by her, and flashed all around by the pimps. This would have to come form cameras in the vents et al. This MO would go along with the fact to make it easier to film; lock into the cable there with a computer to record on disk or as streaming video somewhere on the internet.. plus with cell phones.

All these hotels had wifi built in and if the father of one ran the camera;he'd also know about the ins/outs of wifi; the son would know all the ins and out and then you have Depak the computer expert, Freddy the filmer, ?Joran the stud or producer, maybe the father the "producer/caster who gets to pick the girl and the boys pimp her for him.

Who know who might be in those rooms at the time..... elders? government officials? and we recipient to those? It could even be cabled to another room (maybe cable isn't what I want... I mean transmitted somehow in some media)

There had to be some reason Joran and Paulus had all that power with the monies/freedoms at the casinos.

Either that, or there might be a truism in the rumor there was a elder there at the Sloot home that night (a judge staying over?) or elders there for a poker party... so could be elders of the judiciary, police and govenment... a real reason for coverup if a American young tourist girl had just died a vew feet away in Joran's appartment from drugs being put into her drink on last night there... that they were also used to happening on the ie: girls drugged on their last night, rape, left on the beach, but this time "something went wrong"... hence panic, a coverup that used cronies, friends, favors, and some who didn't even know the whole story but helped and later came dead.

Elaine.. time for the peach drink???

[Elaine]

Sure enough IBE! Here, let's toast to justice in this case!

[robots]

i will DEBUNK the k2 statement for you all if someone can point me to it
when he asks how is the girl ?

where was the statement sid
when was it said

lets BLAST these PIGS  


 

[Leslie]

Diario
http://www.diarioaruba.com/
Amigoe
http://www.amigoe.com/english/
BonDia
http://www.cspnv.com/
Solo di Pueblo
http://www.solodipueblo.com/
Aruba Today
http://www.arubatoday.com/
Translator:
http://papiamentu.donamaro.nl

[Hotshot]

Translation please

[San]

i will DEBUNK the k2 statement for you all if someone can point me to it
when he asks how is the girl ?

where was the statement sid
when was it said

lets BLAST these PIGS  


 

Here is the statement Robots.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=53369#53369

[San]

In reading one of Satish's statements he must have said missing girl and American girl about 30 times.

I guess he doesn't want to call Natalee by her Name.

[Frijole]

Translation please

I'm hardly fluent in pap but it looks like a male named Joe was found dead in a house... sorry that's all I could gleam.  

Off to work!

[robots]

Thank you !  

My mother was then going to wake me up at 10.30 a.m. She though overslept and did not wake me up. I woke up around 12.00 noon. My brother woke up around 1 p.m. I asked him how Joran did get home during the night. He told me Joran had called him while walking in the direction to his home. He told me Joran told him he walked bare feet because he left the shoes at the beach. Then I asked my brother how the girl was doing. He told me Joran told him he left the girl behind at the beach.

[robots]

That day Joran did not tell my brother exactly when had happened on the beach. Specification about that I got on Wednesday. On May 30, 2005, during the afternoon, my brother and I did not further talk about

[robots]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh  PAULUS ????


why you lie to POLICE

[San]

Translation please

I'm hardly fluent in pap but it looks like a male named Joe was found dead in a house... sorry that's all I could gleam.  

Off to work!

Is that all the Aruban police know how to do is stand there looking stupid.

[Peaches]

Good morning.

Yes, San.  That's how you can tell they are government employees.

[msmarple]

In the story above - 64-yr-old man, I think an employee of Valero, died in his home, apparently of natural cause.