Lively Case Discussion #586 3/2 - 3/6/2007

[friend of monkeys]

Just cause I tried to hit a home run doesn't mean that I struck out.  I got
alot out of the posts written by Shango.  My own interpretation.  Now I
guess I'll just have to sit back and see what happens.

And Eat Crow!!!!
     

U never know Patti...

Please...would love the name you speak of...the lion we never have mentioned???

[WidgetTheMidget]

Widget - I'm not 100% sure of anything in this case.  I will say that I searched everthing I could and found no Lorenzo Wever in Aruba.  That does not mean that someone couldn't have a nickname of Lorenzo though.  That said, I still believe there are 2 separate people:

Guido Wever (who I do believe is gay)
Lorenzo Van Rijn (who I still would like to know why he's being protected)

And, I would like to add that Guido Wever claims in court documents to have had MORE than platonic relationship with Joran.

Definitely JOran Is A Switch Hitter ................

AC/DC ..........

 

[friend of monkeys]

Widget - I'm not 100% sure of anything in this case.  I will say that I searched everthing I could and found no Lorenzo Wever in Aruba.  That does not mean that someone couldn't have a nickname of Lorenzo though.  That said, I still believe there are 2 separate people:

Guido Wever (who I do believe is gay)
Lorenzo Van Rijn (who I still would like to know why he's being protected)

And, I would like to add that Guido Wever claims in court documents to have had MORE than platonic relationship with Joran.[/quote]

 

KLASS U ROCK

my 30 min is up...lol

[Patti]

Klaas:

First I searched the scared monkeys.  That's how I got the name.  Then I went to the internet and I found some stuff posted about his age and his nickname.

That was when I found the stuff about Joran having a half-brother.  I had
never heard that before.  So I ran a check on his name and the info didn't jive so I asked, to make sure that they weren't the same person.

and then I jumped to conclusions... right down the old shoot, like a Sloot.

[AZLady]

Widget - I'm not 100% sure of anything in this case.  I will say that I searched everthing I could and found no Lorenzo Wever in Aruba.  That does not mean that someone couldn't have a nickname of Lorenzo though.  That said, I still believe there are 2 separate people:

Guido Wever (who I do believe is gay)
Lorenzo Van Rijn (who I still would like to know why he's being protected)

And, I would like to add that Guido Wever claims in court documents to have had MORE than platonic relationship with Joran.

Definitely JOran Is A Switch Hitter ................

AC/DC ..........

 

Yup, a regular, run-of-the-mill, any old which way pervert, rapist, and murderer.  Li

[friend of monkeys]

Klaas:

First I searched the scared monkeys.  That's how I got the name.  Then I went to the internet and I found some stuff posted about his age and his nickname.

That was when I found the stuff about Joran having a half-brother.  I had
never heard that before.  So I ran a check on his name and the info didn't jive so I asked, to make sure that they weren't the same person.

and then I jumped to conclusions... right down the old shoot, like a Sloot.

glad u r up to sped

[WidgetTheMidget]

Lorenzo van Rijn--son of deceased VW dealer and Astrid van Rijn; might be illegitimate son of PVDS (rumor).  Might have parties, be involved in drug trade.

Guido Wever--model and dealer at HI casino who left town shortly after Natalee disappeared; was briefly arrested in Holland in this case; lawyer proclaimed he was gay.  

No Lorenzo Wever, according to Aruban sources.

Well We Know Thats A Lie .............

 

WELL WIDGE IT IS HARD TO FIND nevermind ARREST A GUY  IF YOU CAN NOT DECIDE WHAT HIS FRIGGIN NAME IS......

Round Up All The Usual Suspects ...............

Casablanca .........

 

[AZLady]

Klaas:

First I searched the scared monkeys.  That's how I got the name.  Then I went to the internet and I found some stuff posted about his age and his nickname.

That was when I found the stuff about Joran having a half-brother.  I had
never heard that before.  So I ran a check on his name and the info didn't jive so I asked, to make sure that they weren't the same person.

and then I jumped to conclusions... right down the old shoot, like a Sloot.

Okay, Patti.  I'm up to my neck with the games and riddles.  Spit out the "name" or drop it.  Provide the "stuff" you found on the internet or drop it.

[klaasend]

Klaas:

First I searched the scared monkeys.  That's how I got the name.  Then I went to the internet and I found some stuff posted about his age and his nickname.

That was when I found the stuff about Joran having a half-brother.  I had
never heard that before.  So I ran a check on his name and the info didn't jive so I asked, to make sure that they weren't the same person.

and then I jumped to conclusions... right down the old shoot, like a Sloot.

Patti - unfortunately, the Lorenzo stuff has been hashed and re-hashed so many times.  Very difficult to get any reliable information on him any more.  

Note my post above regarding the relationship between Guido and Joran.  When Shango mentions the "boyfriend from earlier in the week", is he referring to Joran's boyfriend Guido?  Did Guido get upset because Joran was with Natalee?  Just a thought.

[WidgetTheMidget]

Klaas:

First I searched the scared monkeys.  That's how I got the name.  Then I went to the internet and I found some stuff posted about his age and his nickname.

That was when I found the stuff about Joran having a half-brother.  I had
never heard that before.  So I ran a check on his name and the info didn't jive so I asked, to make sure that they weren't the same person.

and then I jumped to conclusions... right down the old shoot, like a Sloot.

Okay, Patti.  I'm up to my neck with the games and riddles.  Spit out the "name" or drop it.  Provide the "stuff" you found on the internet or drop it.

I Felt That Rush Of Air Here AZLady................

 

[AZLady]

Klaas:

First I searched the scared monkeys.  That's how I got the name.  Then I went to the internet and I found some stuff posted about his age and his nickname.

That was when I found the stuff about Joran having a half-brother.  I had
never heard that before.  So I ran a check on his name and the info didn't jive so I asked, to make sure that they weren't the same person.

and then I jumped to conclusions... right down the old shoot, like a Sloot.

Okay, Patti.  I'm up to my neck with the games and riddles.  Spit out the "name" or drop it.  Provide the "stuff" you found on the internet or drop it.

I Felt That Rush Of Air Here AZLady................

 

Is it getting warmer, Widgie?  

[San]

Lorenzo van Rijn--son of deceased VW dealer and Astrid van Rijn; might be illegitimate son of PVDS (rumor).  Might have parties, be involved in drug trade.

Guido Wever--model and dealer at HI casino who left town shortly after Natalee disappeared; was briefly arrested in Holland in this case; lawyer proclaimed he was gay.  

No Lorenzo Wever, according to Aruban sources.

Well We Know Thats A Lie .............

 

WELL WIDGE IT IS HARD TO FIND nevermind ARREST A GUY  IF YOU CAN NOT DECIDE WHAT HIS FRIGGIN NAME IS......

This is exactly why I think they are trying to confuse everyone because we don't have the right name.  Who knows it could be a combination of names from two different people.
The one person they can't seem to touch is Guido.  Guido had the best attorney that money can buy from day one.  Why.

[AZLady]

Well, my BS meter is rather sensitive these days, so I think I'll just go do something worthwhile -- like play another game of solitaire or something.  Talk to you all later.

[WidgetTheMidget]

Klaas:

First I searched the scared monkeys.  That's how I got the name.  Then I went to the internet and I found some stuff posted about his age and his nickname.

That was when I found the stuff about Joran having a half-brother.  I had
never heard that before.  So I ran a check on his name and the info didn't jive so I asked, to make sure that they weren't the same person.

and then I jumped to conclusions... right down the old shoot, like a Sloot.

Patti - unfortunately, the Lorenzo stuff has been hashed and re-hashed so many times.  Very difficult to get any reliable information on him any more.  

Note my post above regarding the relationship between Guido and Joran.  When Shango mentions the "boyfriend from earlier in the week", is he referring to Joran's boyfriend Guido?  Did Guido get upset because Joran was with Natalee?  Just a thought.

And Guido Killed Natalee In A Rage ...........

Jealous Fags Are Terrible ......... Just Ask My Dead Brother ..........

They Bite, Scratch, Claw..........

Go On WCN & See How Fags Treat Women In This Naked Arena .......

They Hate Women ..........

When I Lived In SF, I Thought I Arrived In Heaven ........

Woman Outnumbered Straight Men 10-1

Paradise ...........

 

[Tibrogargan]

I am just amazed this is still happening.  Actually, I'm awe-struck.  When will it end?

Hopefully Before The War .............

When Our State Dept Failed To Pick Up The Ball & Yell FOUL .............

THe Odds Of Ever Finding Out What Happened Diminished Greatly .......

It  Seems This Case Is A Dead End ..........

Only Jack Bauer Can Get The Answers .............

 

My suggestion is we send Kathryn Morris and the Cold Case team over there.  They would have it solved under an hour and that would even allow for the ad breaks

[klaasend]

Klaas:

First I searched the scared monkeys.  That's how I got the name.  Then I went to the internet and I found some stuff posted about his age and his nickname.

That was when I found the stuff about Joran having a half-brother.  I had
never heard that before.  So I ran a check on his name and the info didn't jive so I asked, to make sure that they weren't the same person.

and then I jumped to conclusions... right down the old shoot, like a Sloot.

Patti - unfortunately, the Lorenzo stuff has been hashed and re-hashed so many times.  Very difficult to get any reliable information on him any more.  

Note my post above regarding the relationship between Guido and Joran.  When Shango mentions the "boyfriend from earlier in the week", is he referring to Joran's boyfriend Guido?  Did Guido get upset because Joran was with Natalee?  Just a thought.

And Guido Killed Natalee In A Rage ...........

Jealous Fags Are Terrible ......... Just Ask My Dead Brother ..........

They Bite, Scratch, Claw..........

Go On WCN & See How Fags Treat Women In This Naked Arena .......

They Hate Women ..........

When I Lived In SF, I Thought I Arrived In Heaven ........

Woman Outnumbered Straight Men 10-1

Paradise ...........

 

There are only two people that I'm aware of that said Natalee dressed like a slut:

1.  Steve Youhas (admitted gay man)
2.  Deepak Kalpoe

[Leslie]

Law Firm of Croes, Wever, Tchong
http://tinyurl.com/385qdy
Hendrik Croes - former minister of Justice and brother of Rudy Croes and Betico Croes
and "corrupt" according to Arubagirl
http://tinyurl.com/2usmrb
Rudolf M. Wever died in February 2007
Rudy Croes is a part owner of Malmok Property Development
http://tinyurl.com/2jatgc

[AZLady]

This is exactly why I think they are trying to confuse everyone because we don't have the right name.  Who knows it could be a combination of names from two different people.
The one person they can't seem to touch is Guido.  Guido had the best attorney that money can buy from day one.  Why.

San--a sensible monkey, if that's not a misnomer.  I'd like to know how Guido, a model and dealer of rather young age, was able to afford the retainer of such a high-powered attorney.  Who provided him the money for the retainer?  That would be interesting information, wouldn't it?

[WidgetTheMidget]

Lorenzo van Rijn--son of deceased VW dealer and Astrid van Rijn; might be illegitimate son of PVDS (rumor).  Might have parties, be involved in drug trade.

Guido Wever--model and dealer at HI casino who left town shortly after Natalee disappeared; was briefly arrested in Holland in this case; lawyer proclaimed he was gay.  

No Lorenzo Wever, according to Aruban sources.

Well We Know Thats A Lie .............

 

WELL WIDGE IT IS HARD TO FIND nevermind ARREST A GUY  IF YOU CAN NOT DECIDE WHAT HIS FRIGGIN NAME IS......

This is exactly why I think they are trying to confuse everyone because we don't have the right name.  Who knows it could be a combination of names from two different people.
The one person they can't seem to touch is Guido.  Guido had the best attorney that money can buy from day one.  Why.

Hi San........... Great To See Ya ..............

It Seems His Family Have More Pull Than The Sloots ..............

Heavy Battery Still Looms Big On Police Report ...........

He Defintely Is Involved But Where Who Knows .................

 

[friend of monkeys]

Well, my BS meter is rather sensitive these days, so I think I'll just go do something worthwhile -- like play another game of solitaire or something.  Talk to you all later.

don't leave......i was just gonna make popcorn for the fight...lol

and I agree that this is a place to share info...not dangle it