Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #39 12/24/10 - 1/01/11

[sassifrass]

Everyone should just breathe in and then breathe out. I can honestly say, all of the posters on here, are here for the same reason. We all want Kyron home. 

I did exactly what you suggested sassifrass and ... I saw spots floating before my eyes.  My New Year's resolution ... A DAILY EXCERCISE ROUTINE!

Have a good day all!

Janet
9:35 AM PT

  : :MonkeyWeight::

chit! this will work.   

[Tamikosmom]

chit! this will work.   

 

A brisk daily walk with No Rose to our local Tim Horton for an Old Fashion Plain with a  cuppa coffee/tea was what I had in mind. Sassi ... you are welcome to join us.

Janet

[chiquita]

Welcome to the cage chiquita! 

Thank you for the welcome.  Been a member here for quite awhile just don't post much.  Kyron is the reason I'm here, not to cause dissent.  Feel free to research or ignore my last post.

[sassifrass]

chit! this will work.   

 

A brisk daily walk with No Rose to our local Tim Horton for an Old Fashion Plain with a  cuppa coffee/tea was what I had in mind. Sassi ... you are welcome to join us.

Janet

That would be a long walk from Oregon Janet! 

[sassifrass]

Welcome to the cage chiquita! 

Thank you for the welcome.  Been a member here for quite awhile just don't post much.  Kyron is the reason I'm here, not to cause dissent.  Feel free to research or ignore my last post.

You're very welcome! Kyron has brought a lot of people here. He's one special kid, isn't he? Btw, everyone's posts are important. 

[no rose colored glasses]

chit! this will work.   

 

A brisk daily walk with No Rose to our local Tim Horton for an Old Fashion Plain with a  cuppa coffee/tea was what I had in mind. Sassi ... you are welcome to join us.

Janet

Sounds great to me.   WELCOME chiquita   

[sassifrass]

This post is for information purposes. I don't in any way, make any accusations. I'm just posting info along with url's to post the facts as they relate to Kyron.  The bolded words are additional comments based on facts, ie: public information. I didn't post the press articles to some of the statements because I'm assuming that we've seen them before. Maybe Janet can help with that?

http://www.skylinesoccerclub.com/home.php?layout=1022

Skyline Eagles Soccer Club:

President:  Tom Williamson
Vice President:  Max Janasik
Registrar:  Chris Edington
PYSA Rep:  Kim Holm
Head Coach:  Kim Holm
Equipment/Field Manager:  Matt Schuckmann
Treasurer:  John Chen

When you Google the address that they list to send the Soccer Registration payments to (The address of: 10902 NW Skyline Blvd, Portland, OR 97231) you find it linked to a business called "Turnstone
Environmental Consultants"

http://www.turnstoneenvironmental.com/index.htm


I'm going to take these one at a time:

President:  Tom Williamson, AKA Walter T Williamson IV - Approximate age 44-45 (Not on the list)
Resume: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tom-williamson/4/948/926

President and co-owner of Turnstone Environmental Consultants
                           10902 NW Skyline Blvd
                                     Portland, OR 97231

Additional address to TEC: 18000 NW Lucy Reeder Road, Portland, OR 97231 (This is Sauvie Island
and is approximately 11.6 miles away from nw skyline blvd.)

Link, pg 6:
http://www.cityofalbany.net/finance/cor/COR2009/B-Environmental%20Permitting,%20Analysis,%20and%
20Design/COR-09-B%20Proposal%20-%20Turnstone%20Environmental.pdf

PYSA Rep:  Kim Holm (PYSA is Portland youth soccer Assoc.)

http://www.portlandyouthsoccer.com/home.php

Head Coach:  Kim Holm (On the list)
Kim has 3 sons. She also lives behind the home that Jim Kelley reported seeing a white truck and a
woman with red hair driving it at 3pm and 2am on June 4th.

Kurtis ( Kyron's friend who also was invited by Terri the previous weekend to go 1st to the zoo, but ended up going bowling) When asked by his mother about Kyron being missing, Kurtis stated that he knew he was absent because he had a dr.'s appointment.

Avery Villerreal: FB page:

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000645197805&v=wall&ref=search

Was put on hold in early September: (NOTE: I don't know what STM court is)

First Name   AVERY   Middle Name   DEAN   Last Name   VILLARREAL
Primary Address   N/A   City   N/A   State   N/A
ZIP Code   N/A   Phone Number   N/A   Date of Birth   19880115
Race   CAUCASIAN   Height   68"   Weight   145 LBS
Court   STM   Source State   OR   Offense   HOLD
Gender   MALE

Girlfriend to Avery is Breanna P.: FB page: http://www.facebook.com/breanna.pulliam
Cashier at Fred Meyers in Scappoose. Attended Lincoln High

Cameron Villarreal: FB page: http://www.facebook.com/crazy4high#!/crazy4high?v=wall


Registrar:  Chris Edington: Wife Rebecca (On the list)

Vice President:  Max Janasik: Wife Becky (on the list)

Equipment/Field Manager: Matt Schuckmann: Wife Robin (on the list)

Treasurer:  John Chen: No info

I also checked which FM stores would be closest to zip 97231. These are the top 3:

1:FRED MEYER51501 Columbia River HwyScappoose, OR 97056Store:
Distance 5.8 miles

2: FRED MEYER6850 N Lombard StPortland, OR 97203Store
Distance 7.2 miles

3: 5
FRED MEYER JEWELERS22075 NW Imbrie DrHillsboro, OR 97124
Distance 8.3 miles

One more addition: It appears the Villarreal/Holm family, owned a boat. It may mean nothing, but I wanted to put it out there.

First Name   CATARINO   Middle Name   FLOYD   Last Name   VILLARREAL
Primary Address   N/A   City   PORTLAND   State   OR
ZIP Code   97231   Latitude   45.632427   Longitude   -122.86634
Phone Number   N/A   Date of Birth   19581105   Street   15110 NW CORNELIUS PASS RD
Offense Date   19000101   Court   CLACKAMAS COUNTY COURTS   Source State   OR
Offense   BOAT-RIDE DECK W/O RAIL

Oregon Boating Regulations:

http://www.oregon.gov/OSMB/BoatLaws/Regulations.shtml

BUMP

I found a site where I can check out boat registrations in Oregon. I'm trying to hash through the thousands of names. Here is a link:
http://www.boatinfoworld.com/boat/registrations/multnomah-county-or-oregon.asp?spg=2

[sebastian]

I had found it odd that people that worked with Kaine haven't been talking to the press or anything. Maybe Intel has a policy that if they talk about other employers to the public they could get fired?

Hi Norose!
I find it odd that the press has not been doing their job on this case. They have not dug up anything on anyone. The only thing that they have done is quote the bio parents and LE. This is a huge case. The brother of the bio father of Kyron should have been out of prison by now for SEX OFFENSES and not one word from the press in Portland. Nada Zip!

[no rose colored glasses]

I had found it odd that people that worked with Kaine haven't been talking to the press or anything. Maybe Intel has a policy that if they talk about other employers to the public they could get fired?

Hi Norose!
I find it odd that the press has not been doing their job on this case. They have not dug up anything on anyone. The only thing that they have done is quote the bio parents and LE. This is a huge case. The brother of the bio father of Kyron should have been out of prison by now for SEX OFFENSES and not one word from the press in Portland. Nada Zip!

Hi, I agree, and don't get it. Sad but true, the press move from one story to another very quickly, and this is what may have happened. Whatever is happening right now in Portland/Washington is what will be reported on.

[islandmonkey]

Email memo from KH to his colleagues:

From: Horman, Kaine A
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 8:39 AM
Subject: FW: Kaine Horman's son is missing

All,
If you have seen local Oregon news or been browsing the internet or FaceBook there is a good chance you have seen an article similar to the one that Becky forwarded (below).  While this note is difficult for me to write in this state of mind I felt it necessary for Kyron’s sake.

Optional actions for you:
The Intel network is large and wide-reaching.  Many have asked me what they can do to help us and my answer is the following:
1.       Forward Kyron’s information to as many people as you feel comfortable with; the more people that see this will increase our chances of finding him
2.       Do not speak to any media if contacted; I am trying to contact Intel legal to give them the heads up and help with this situation

Physical description at the time of his disappearance (picture is show in Becky’s note and here):
He is 3 foot 8 and 50 pounds, with blue eyes and brown hair. He was wearing black cargo pants, white socks, worn black Sketcher tennis shoes with orange trim and dark-colored t-shirt with the "CSI" show logo

Police Hot Line Number:
(503) 261-2847

Some rough background:
The article that Becky forwarded is pretty accurate with details.  He was dropped off at school about 8:45 and went missing sometime between then and 9 or 9:30am.  We did not know he was not at school until we went to get him off of the bus at 3:30 and he was nowhere to be found.  The bus driver immediately called the school which responded that his teacher had not seen him all day in class, at which point we notified police in partnership with the school.  It is still unknown whether he left school grounds on his own or was abducted.  Be assured that there are currently an amazing number of agencies and amount of person-power being applied to the search and investigation.

Thank you all for the thoughts and prayers for Kyron’s safe return.  I will update the group once status changes which will hopefully be soon.  At the time of this note Kyron has now been missing for ~48 hours; time is of the essence.

I suspect he went to the Intel legal department to get details on divorce and custody, JMO. 

And again, two days after Kyron's disappearance he is banishing the media. 
 

  I have quoted this over and over but never caught the word "situation" until last night......is it just me, or does that word along with the event as he used in "I am not going to be held hostage by this event" not strike anyone else as odd but me? I am being 100% serisous.

[Kat_Gram]

There are a couple of persons on this board who are making excuses for and giving reasons why things are happening the way they are. WHY ? Got some inside info ? If so, tell, if not quit with the excuse making. I have to log off and I am really tried of this tennis match. Anyone who disgaress with some party line here being posted is given a reason why. I have no inside scoop, I know none of these persons and if I did know them, I would run as fast as I could. Janet has been posting what the media has said, I have read most of OR Live. I am formin g my opionion from that, not the lame excuses made for Kaine here.   

Where did I call anyone a name ? I disagree with some stuff that is posted here by persons who seem to have some other information, that's ALL. I am not lashing out, I am asking QUESTIONS and I CAN HAVE AN OPINION THAT IS MY OWN. BASED ON WHAT I HAVE READ.
I do not like Kaine, Terri, Mike Cook, Kim Holm, Dede, FlyMonkey, Tom Jones, GLP FaceBooks to trash or uphold either one of them. and I do not put my faith in Desiree's impressions, she has baggage with Kaine and TERRI the most.

[no rose colored glasses]

There are a couple of persons on this board who are making excuses for and giving reasons why things are happening the way they are. WHY ? Got some inside info ? If so, tell, if not quit with the excuse making. I have to log off and I am really tried of this tennis match. Anyone who disgaress with some party line here being posted is given a reason why. I have no inside scoop, I know none of these persons and if I did know them, I would run as fast as I could. Janet has been posting what the media has said, I have read most of OR Live. I am formin g my opionion from that, not the lame excuses made for Kaine here.   

Where did I call anyone a name ? I disagree with some stuff that is posted here by persons who seem to have some other information, that's ALL. I am not lashing out, I am asking QUESTIONS and I CAN HAVE AN OPINION THAT IS MY OWN. BASED ON WHAT I HAVE READ.
I do not like Kaine, Terri, Mike Cook, Kim Holm, Dede, FlyMonkey, Tom Jones, GLP FaceBooks to trash or uphold either one of them. and I do not put my faith in Desiree's impressions, she has baggage with Kaine and TERRI the most.

And I am on the same page as you.

[Brandi]

How many employees does Intel have there ?  It's something like 15,000 I think?

Kaine is a nobody.  Sorry, but it's true.  He doesn't come from a wealthy, powerful family.  He isn't a CEO. To think that he is so powerful to control media and Intel is ludicrous.  Sorry. 

Even wealthy powerful people find it difficult to control the media.

So he works for INTEL.  He's a dot on their spread sheets.

about the Williamette and Oregonian being excluded from the ONE presser...

they were excluded because they already had information on the MFH Plot...they were asked by LE as in LAW ENFORCEMENT and the FAMILY OF KYRON to NOT break the story so that they could do their investigation THEIR WAY...you know their JOB? and those 2 outlets REFUSED TO MAKE THAT AGREEMENT...they were turned away for "not being team players" because their scoop was more important to them than Kyron... the Oregonian withheld the story and went back and apologized and were included in EVERY OTHER presser after that...the Williamette went forward and posted their scoop...which forced LE's hand putting them in a now or never situation with the sting that they werent ready to pull off...just to beat the press...for one I believe that they wanted some time to pass so that TH could get more comfortable before they did it...so that they would have a chance at it...but no, thats not how it happened and we all saw how that DIDNT work out...

Kaine does NOT have the power everyone wants to pretend that they think he does...and there are reasons that arent always so clear (even if they should be) for some things and they arent trite...


To set the record straight on the situation with Kaine and the media in this one situation.

Hadn't heard this before.

Makes perfect sense.

Nice to have you posting, chiquita.

[Samantha]

There are a couple of persons on this board who are making excuses for and giving reasons why things are happening the way they are. WHY ? Got some inside info ? If so, tell, if not quit with the excuse making. I have to log off and I am really tried of this tennis match. Anyone who disgaress with some party line here being posted is given a reason why. I have no inside scoop, I know none of these persons and if I did know them, I would run as fast as I could. Janet has been posting what the media has said, I have read most of OR Live. I am formin g my opionion from that, not the lame excuses made for Kaine here.   

Don't know anyone involved in this or any case.. But I do work at a mid-sized software company and have received emails similar to Kaine's email to his fellow employees. A newly hired person went missing and then was found days later (accidental drowning) and we were told not to speak to media. In our company its stressed that any media inquiries go through the proper channels. Since they work at a well-known company with him, anything they say could be misrepresented/misconstrued as an opinion of Intel.

Not speaking to the media is not impeding this case.. it doesn't mean they can't (or haven't) spoken to the police. He states its an email in response to inquiries about what can be done to help and also gives information/description and asks to spread the word.

And I agree with another poster (forgot who) about the two media outlets that were asked to leave the early news conferences.. I don't find it to be a coincidence that they ended up being the two outlets that had an early knowledge of the MFH plot and I believe the cold shoulder was a result of that knowledge/digging.

I am not a frequent poster and don't really rally around anyone. Just whenever the email comes up I usually comment on my company's ways.

[Lazydog1]

I don't post often partly because I don't want to start a war here. I just can't attack the bio parents for beng human and making mstakes no matter how big. I trust LE has vetted both and found them to be uninvolved. I believe they are devastated and won't add to their pain.

[no rose colored glasses]

Samantha thank-you for explaining about the emails, and can see why things should go through the proper channels, did not know this.

[Tamikosmom]

Could it be that Kaine has inside connections within LE and ... within Intel assisting him in controlling the media to prevent skeltons of his own making within his marriage to Terri from being revealed?

Janet

++++++++


Controlling the Media

Kyron Horman’s Family Boots WW and The Oregonian from Bizarre News Event
1:04 PM July 1st, 2010
by James Pitkin

The saga of missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman got a little more bizarre today at a news conference held this morning by the boy’s family.

The event at Brooks Hill Historic Church was arranged on Wednesday by Kyron’s father Kaine Horman, biological mother Desiree Young and her husband, Medford Police Detective Tony Young.

Absent was Terri Moulton Horman, the stepmom investigators say was the last person known to have seen Kyron before his June 4 disappearance. Kaine Horman filed for divorce and a restraining order against her earlier this week. And she’s since hired star criminal defense attorney Stephen Houze.

Today, Kaine Horman and the Youngs sat at the head of a table in a room filled with more than two dozen national and local reporters for print, TV and radio. As the meeting began at 10 a.m., Kaine Horman started out by explaining “the agenda.” This wasn’t going to be a typical press conference.

Horman said the family’s goal was to make “the story” about Kyron. With news of the divorce and investigators homing in on the stepmom, media coverage (including in WW) has increasingly focused on Kyron’s troubled family.

First came Horman’s “ground rules,” as he described them. No cameras. No recordings. Everything was off the record and couldn’t be reported, unless agreed otherwise. Horman made everyone in the room agree to these rules before proceeding. And so this roomful of reporters consented, in essence, not to be reporters.

Horman then laid out how the meeting would go. They would take questions, make some phone calls (presumably to investigators, to find out what they could say in their answers), then return and make an on-the-record statement. But first, Horman wanted all the reporters he didn’t know to introduce themselves.

KEX radio, KATU, The Portland Tribune and “Inside Edition” all got the nod from Horman. But then came Shane Kavanaugh and Bryan Denson of The Oregonian.

Horman said the family didn’t like The Oregonian’s coverage and wanted them to leave. Horman said the daily had failed to be a “team player.”

“This is a team, and if we’re not going to play as a team, there’s no point in being here,” Horman said. “This is about Kyron.”

Denson objected, saying he’s new to the story and after 28 years in journalism he’s “a pretty good reporter.” But there was no arguing. The family wanted The O gone, and a woman who said she’s a manager at the church escorted them out. The biggest newspaper in the state had been eighty-sixed.

I introduced myself and said I’m with Willamette Week. Horman said the family has the same problem with WW. I agreed to leave. And so the paper with the second-biggest circulation in Oregon was also kicked out.

As far as I was concerned, after getting kicked out all deals were off. I wasn’t going to keep the meeting off the record.

According to a reporter who stayed, the family went on to lay out more “ground rules” for the future. They said they’d hold these “news conferences” (if you can call them that) twice a week, on Mondays and Thursdays, as time allows. They would make prepared statements, answer some questions submitted in writing and may also do occasional interviews.

“They want us to cover Kyron, and they’re not going to get neck-deep in gossip and rumors,” the reporter said.

ABC News convinced the family to make an on-the-record statement in front of one camera, with the tape available as pool footage for other reporters. After more than an hour inside the church, the reporters were sent outside while the family stayed in to prepare a statement.

The reporter at the scene said The Oregonian had somehow gotten back on the family’s good side and was among those waiting outside to hear the prepared statement.

At shortly after 12:30, the family emerged from the church and Desiree Young gave a brief statement in which she implored Terri Moulton Horman to cooperate with investigators. She also said the family believes Kyron is still alive.

<snipped>

http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/07/01/kyron-hormans-family-boots-ww-and-the-oregonian/


More Notes from the Strange Press Conference with Kyron Horman’s Family
4:14 PM July 1st, 2010
by James Pitkin

As we’ve already reported, WW was kicked out of this morning’s news conference by the family of missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman.

But our reporter friends have continued to fill us in on what we missed. After mother Desiree Young gave a tearful statement, she answered some questions submitted by the media.

Here are one reporter’s notes from the question-and-answer session:

<snipped>

The family is helping with the case everyday by working with investigators and the media to make sure his face stays out there. They’re handing out fliers, getting t-shirts out there. Desiree said it is her goal for everyone any where in the world to know what Kyron looks like.

They have been fully briefed by police and they are optimistic. They are fully confident in the investigation and investigators who are doing everything they can to find Kyron.

Next week they will meet with media at 10am on Tuesday since Monday is a holiday. On Thursday they will do interviews starting at 4pm but nothing live. Everything taped as has to be held for air until Friday because Kyron went missing on a Friday.

http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/07/01/more-notes-from-the-strange-press-conference-with-kyron-hormans-family/
 

Missing Child - Kyron Horman, 7
Posted on Jun 07, 2010
 
Below is an email from Kyron's father.

From: Horman, Kaine A
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 8:39 AM
Subject: FW: Kaine Horman's son is missing

All,

If you have seen local Oregon news or been browsing the internet or FaceBook there is a good chance you have seen an article similar to the one that Becky forwarded (below).  While this note is difficult for me to write in this state of mind I felt it necessary for Kyron’s sake.

Optional actions for you:

The Intel network is large and wide-reaching.  Many have asked me what they can do to help us and my answer is the following:

1.       Forward Kyron’s information to as many people as you feel comfortable with; the more people that see this will increase our chances of finding him

2.     Do not speak to any media if contacted; I am trying to contact Intel legal to give them the heads up and help with this situation

Physical description at the time of his disappearance (picture is show in Becky’s note and here):

He is 3 foot 8 and 50 pounds, with blue eyes and brown hair. He was wearing black cargo pants, white socks, worn black Sketcher tennis shoes with orange trim and dark-colored t-shirt with the "CSI" show logo

Police Hot Line Number:

(503) 261-2847

Some rough background:

The article that Becky forwarded is pretty accurate with details.  He was dropped off at school about 8:45 and went missing sometime between then and 9 or 9:30am.  We did not know he was not at school until we went to get him off of the bus at 3:30 and he was nowhere to be found.  The bus driver immediately called the school which responded that his teacher had not seen him all day in class, at which point we notified police in partnership with the school.  It is still unknown whether he left school grounds on his own or was abducted.  Be assured that there are currently an amazing number of agencies and amount of person-power being applied to the search and investigation.

Thank you all for the thoughts and prayers for Kyron’s safe return.  I will update the group once status changes which will hopefully be soon.  At the time of this note Kyron has now been missing for ~48 hours; time is of the essence.

Kaine Horman
Enterprise Business Architect
Intel Corporation

http://ackerlaw.com/posts/2010/06/07/missing_child__kyron_horman_7

Samantha

The "Horman Ground Rules" established by Kaine implying only media "Team Players" would be participants in the affording of updates ... updates that would only be forthcoming by him ... is downright scarey.

Janet

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June 18, 2010 4:51 PM
Kyron Horman Update: Cops Ask Public for Information about Stepmother, Believed to Have Last Seen Boy

ADD A COMMENT

by tmittelstaed June 19, 2010 12:38 AM EDT

The only thing we know (and I live in OR so have read quite a lot about this case) is that the family immediately went into seclusion the first week of Kyron's disappearance, and -everyone- (and I mean everyone) remotely conected to the family has been absolutely close-lipped with regards to the families situation. There has been nothing in the way of family members or relatives talking to reporters and doing anything other than echoing the party line. Kyron's family has information about it's internal workings locked down so tight that it would put the CIA to shame, and they have managed the press to say what they want better than a lot of professional companies who manage politicians press interfaces have done.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20008192-504083.html

[Samantha]

Samantha

The "Horman Ground Rules" established by Kaine implying only media "Team Players" would be participants in the affording of updates ... updates that would only be forthcoming by him ... is downright scarey.

Janet

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June 18, 2010 4:51 PM
Kyron Horman Update: Cops Ask Public for Information about Stepmother, Believed to Have Last Seen Boy

ADD A COMMENT

by tmittelstaed June 19, 2010 12:38 AM EDT

The only thing we know (and I live in OR so have read quite a lot about this case) is that the family immediately went into seclusion the first week of Kyron's disappearance, and -everyone- (and I mean everyone) remotely conected to the family has been absolutely close-lipped with regards to the families situation. There has been nothing in the way of family members or relatives talking to reporters and doing anything other than echoing the party line. Kyron's family has information about it's internal workings locked down so tight that it would put the CIA to shame, and they have managed the press to say what they want better than a lot of professional companies who manage politicians press interfaces have done.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20008192-504083.html

<snipped your quote stack for space>

It doesn't particularly scare me.  It doesn't stop the police from having new conferences whenever they want and including who-ever they please. Kaine is not the sole person to receive information from in this case.

I believe that Kaine was informed about these two media outlets (because of the timing in relation to the MFH plot/set up and the coincidence of who was left out and their early knowledge of the MFH plot) Just my opinion.

[Tamikosmom]

I had found it odd that people that worked with Kaine haven't been talking to the press or anything. Maybe Intel has a policy that if they talk about other employers to the public they could get fired?

Hi Norose!
I find it odd that the press has not been doing their job on this case. They have not dug up anything on anyone. The only thing that they have done is quote the bio parents and LE. This is a huge case. The brother of the bio father of Kyron should have been out of prison by now for SEX OFFENSES and not one word from the press in Portland. Nada Zip!

 

[Shell]

Now I am curious if Gramps is still alive. >>>Curious George