Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #40 1/01/11 - 1/18/11

[Puzzler]

Janice Cerin Krause
Dec 30, 2010 at 7:47pm, wikt wrote:
I'll give you a few cut 'm copies DIRECTLY from your own posts... but I don't think it is at all necessary to be posting it all for THAT pig & the pig's helpers right now.
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Between 10 to 11 she says she was trimming the spent tulips and Daffodils between the green house and the main house, and the yard that surrounds the main house, the property owner at that time came out and asked her not to forget to trim the daffodils by the main gate, she was seen walking towards the gate around 11 by someone who said later she supposedly was leaving the property.*******
9:15 to 10:30 she was working with a group of people in the green house nursery area.
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But around 11:30 she says she had an other conversation with the owner about slugs, a whole bunch of slug sh*t that she had never seen before, and a heard of elk in the lower field.


They are now saying that this Wikt poster is KH?

Could it be....that what we've heard as DeDe seen leaving....was actually DeDe going to the main gate to do what the property owner asked her to do?

[sebastian]

Janice Cerin Krause
Dec 30, 2010 at 7:47pm, wikt wrote:
I'll give you a few cut 'm copies DIRECTLY from your own posts... but I don't think it is at all necessary to be posting it all for THAT pig & the pig's helpers right now.
*******
Between 10 to 11 she says she was trimming the spent tulips and Daffodils between the green house and the main house, and the yard that surrounds the main house, the property owner at that time came out and asked her not to forget to trim the daffodils by the main gate, she was seen walking towards the gate around 11 by someone who said later she supposedly was leaving the property.*******
9:15 to 10:30 she was working with a group of people in the green house nursery area.
*******
But around 11:30 she says she had an other conversation with the owner about slugs, a whole bunch of slug sh*t that she had never seen before, and a heard of elk in the lower field.


They are now saying that this Wikt poster is KH?

Could it be....that what we've heard as DeDe seen leaving....was actually DeDe going to the main gate to do what the property owner asked her to do?

Hey Puzzler,
Do you recall the time frame that is in question regarding DeDe's where abouts?

[Tamikosmom]

If Kyron had been captured on surveilliance inside the FM or Albertsons ... Terri would have been implicated in the disappearance of her stepson long ago.  However ... Terri had not been deemed even a person of interest in the Kyron Horman case.

Janet

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Surveillance collected for Kyron case
Story Published: Jul 9, 2010 at 6:35 PM PST
Story Updated: Jul 10, 2010 at 3:03 PM PST

PORTLAND, Ore. - Investigators have collected surveillance videos from local grocery stores in the disappearance of Kyron Horman, sources said.

The corporate offices of Fred Meyer and Albertsons both confirmed to KATU News on Friday they are cooperating with investigators in the Kyron Horman case.

Officials with Albertsons said they’ve turned over surveillance video from their store on Beaverton-Hillsdale Highway on June 4, the day the Skyline School second-grader disappeared.

Fred Meyer officials, however, will only say they are working with detectives regarding at least one store. They said if they turned over surveillance video, it would be up to investigators to disclose it to the media; however, sources said that the Sunset Fred Meyer off Highway 26 in Hillsboro has submitted video for investigators to review.

That store is five miles from Skyline School. The Albertsons, depending on the route taken, is anywhere from 14 to 16 miles from the school.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/98150609.html

[Puzzler]

I think that as long as we are discussing these cases and on the internet, it keeps these tragic stories on peoples minds. The worse possible thing to me is when a family has a loved one that has gone missing and the case has gone cold with LE. Everyday people eventually lose interest in the story and then it is just the family and friends who are left with no resolution and no more attention being paid to the case. Whether we agree with what happened or not, I really feel that we are contributing by discussing all possibilities and keeping these missing loved ones names and faces out there. JMO

Agreed, but I have been basically talking about the ones that cause trouble like Joy Wray, and when the police have to take time to check things out, not just discussing cases. Most people know their boundaries.

Hi Norose,
I do not know who Joy Wray is, but if that person is sending LE on a wild goose chase, than that is terrible. I would also like to add that there are those that pretend that they have information and use that information for attention. I have read over and over where people tell Lindsey Baum's mother that they have information and then they will not give it to her. Then there are the pretend psychics that send family members all over the country on bogus preminitions. It is all heartbreaking!

No not this case, she caused a lot of trouble in Caylee Anthony's case, way beyond one's imagination.

FYI - While a frustrating person to deal with, Joy Wray is actually a person who's been Baker Acted in Florida numerous times and really has some problems.  Unfortunately, some of the problems she causes are inflicting herself into the Caylee Anthony case and unnecessarily taking up a lot of LE's time.

[Tamikosmom]

If Kyron had been captured on surveilliance inside the FM or Albertsons ... Terri would have been implicated in the disappearance of her stepson long ago.  However ... Terri had not been deemed even a person of interest in the Kyron Horman case.

Janet

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Surveillance collected for Kyron case
Story Published: Jul 9, 2010 at 6:35 PM PST
Story Updated: Jul 10, 2010 at 3:03 PM PST

PORTLAND, Ore. - Investigators have collected surveillance videos from local grocery stores in the disappearance of Kyron Horman, sources said.

The corporate offices of Fred Meyer and Albertsons both confirmed to KATU News on Friday they are cooperating with investigators in the Kyron Horman case.

Officials with Albertsons said they’ve turned over surveillance video from their store on Beaverton-Hillsdale Highway on June 4, the day the Skyline School second-grader disappeared.

Fred Meyer officials, however, will only say they are working with detectives regarding at least one store. They said if they turned over surveillance video, it would be up to investigators to disclose it to the media; however, sources said that the Sunset Fred Meyer off Highway 26 in Hillsboro has submitted video for investigators to review.

That store is five miles from Skyline School. The Albertsons, depending on the route taken, is anywhere from 14 to 16 miles from the school.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/98150609.html

Sheriff's Office Releases Q&A About Kyron Case
POSTED: 3:46 pm PDT July 23, 2010

5. Video has been requested from local businesses as well as from members of the media – Has any footage been recovered and if so did it yield anything that will be helpful to the case?

Sheriff's Office: We have recovered many photos and video footage. We will not be able to comment on their evidentiary value. We continue to ask individuals in possession of photos and video surrounding the Skyline Grade School event on June 4, 2010 to provide that to investigators. We continue to ask the media for their assistance and support in this investigation. The photos and videos that have been provided by the media have helped further the investigation process.

http://www.kptv.com/news/24374478/detail.html

[sebastian]

This is an interesting article. It talks about notable murder cases where there was not a body.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,438661,00.html

[Puzzler]

I gotta say...after checking out some of Chana's posts on the anti-page, and what she has posted so far on her blog, she sincerely gives me a creepy feeling.  She alludes to CBS that she has screen shots of emails and PM's that CBS has sent to other people.  That, along with supposedly having all kinds of stuff on that Danielle Carter.  My God, does she sit there all day and look for incriminating (or hinky) stuff and make & store screen shots? Obsessed, a bit?   If CBS or DC had communicated privately with others, the other people had to have sent screen shots to Chana for her to have access to the info.   Just weird, and the more they post, the weirder it gets.

 

 

Chana knows TH and believes that she did something to Kyron.  Seeing how much a lot of us post on here and we don't even know Kyron, I can see where someone who actually knows the people involved would be REALLY involved.

I know that I would be looking to see for whatever I could glean.  Heck, I do it now. 

I know she knows TH, but if she has concrete information, which she HAS given to LE from what I understand, the last thing she should be doing is running all over the internet like a one-woman army trying to out everyone.  To me, it makes her lose credibility, which could be important if and when this goes to trial.  She could be damaging the case by trying to be a hero.

Like I said earlier, Tom Jones has already said that all of this stuff does not tell us where Kyron is or what happened to him....so...what's this all about?  It's certainly not about Kyron.

Is it simply women outting each other for supposed "lies" and seeing how nasty they can treat each over?  Is it that people get a false bravado because they're on the internet and not face-to-face? 

It all seems seems degrading to me...not the person they're attacking...but the person who's doing the frenetic attacking - that person seems to be degrading themselves on the world wide web. 

[sebastian]

Kyron Horman search may have suffered from confluence of delays
Published: Saturday, June 12, 2010, 9:02 PM     Updated: Thursday, July 15, 2010, 2:46 PM
 By Noelle Crombie, The Oregonian
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View full sizeFamily photoKyron Horman smiles in front of his science fair project about red-eyed tree frogs the same morning he disappeared from Skyline School.
On the morning Kyron Horman was last seen, he was Skyline School's resident expert on red-eyed tree frogs at the school science fair. Then the second-grader vanished and was gone nearly seven hours before anyone noticed.

Kyron's stepmother met the school bus about 3:30 p.m., but the bespectacled 7-year-old wasn't aboard. She called Skyline, and the school secretary called 9-1-1. During the next 4 1/2 hours, authorities mobilized a full-scale search effort involving federal agents who specialize in child-abduction cases.

But by then it was almost nightfall. Time had long become the enemy.


» Timeline
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"That is a long time to be behind in a case like this."

A confluence of factors meant searchers lost key hours:

Officials at Skyline School didn't notify the boy's parents after realizing he was absent. The initial report was given the "lowest priority" rating by emergency dispatchers. Rush-hour traffic Friday evening delayed arrival of trained searchers, who gathered first at the Multnomah County sheriff's patrol office in outer Northeast Portland, then traveled to the site. Getting to the school and Kyron's neighborhood, in the rural northwestern corner of Multnomah County, took more than a half-hour.

And though news organizations reported late Friday that Kyron was missing, authorities didn't issue a full news release until the following morning.

Once notified, Multnomah County authorities responded swiftly, but crucial hours already had been lost, Sheriff Dan Staton said.

"This is what is hugely disturbing to me," he told The Oregonian on Saturday. "The fact that you had a child in school and the last time the child was seen is at 9 in the morning -- there are concerns about that lag time. If the child had walked away from the school, the likelihood of finding him under those circumstances would have been extremely high.

"After five hours," the sheriff said, "you know as well as I do how far a child could walk on a roadway."

Across the country each year, 115 children on average are abducted by strangers or an acquaintance, according to a 2008 report by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. Most are found within hours. But a quarter of abducted children are killed. The center's statistics showed that 76 percent of those children die within three hours of being kidnapped.

Though rare, all missing children investigations share an essential element: time.

"Valuable hours were lost because, frankly, no one knew where (Kyron) was," said Bob Lowery, a former homicide commander in the Midwest and executive director of the missing children division of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

Added Van Zandt: "As time goes on, it becomes more critical and the potential for some harm to come to this child is greater."

 
Skyline School officials first realized there was a problem after the school day had ended. Kyron's stepmother, Terri Moulton Horman, said the boy wasn't on the school bus.

School secretary Susan Hall called 9-1-1 at 3:56 p.m. That triggered a page to Portland Public Schools security.

At some point that day, Kyron's teacher had marked the boy absent -- district officials refuse to say when -- but that didn't prompt a call home because Skyline School lacked an automatic notification policy. That has since changed.

Staton said dispatchers at the Bureau of Emergency Communications classified the call from Skyline as "lowest priority." Dispatchers generally classify calls based on who's calling, what information is provided and whether there is an indication of danger or a medical issue.

Within minutes, Portland police and Multnomah County sheriff's deputies were dispatched. About a half-hour passed before they pulled up to the school and the Horman home, about 2 1/2 miles from the school.

The official search for Kyron began at 4:33 p.m.

Among those responding were a sergeant, a police dog and about eight Portland officers. They searched around the school, hoping the shy boy had gone home with someone he knew. Staton said that even before certified searchers arrived, police had searched the school, many of the main roads and the boy's home.

On any given day, kids don't ride the bus when they should, prompting parents to call their school, said Matt Shelby, spokesman for the school district.

"Nine times out of 10 they're found within the hour or so," he said.

But police found no trace of Kyron.

Shortly after 5:30 p.m., school authorities alerted parents through an automated phone message.

"Kyron Horman did not arrive at home today," the message said.

The alert was intended for Skyline parents, but it went out to other parents, too. Anyone who'd seen Kyron was asked to call police.

"The only thing we knew is that he was missing," Shelby said.

The sheriff's office began calling trained searchers at 5:30 p.m. The first search teams arrived at 8:09 p.m. The search-and-rescue coordinator, Deputy Mark Herron, arrived at 8:25 p.m.

Among those who got a call that night was sheriff's Sgt. Travis Gullberg, another search-and-rescue coordinator.

"We've got a scenario developing," Detective Sgt. Lee Gosson told him.

Sometime between 7 and 7:45 p.m., Staton personally called the FBI. He said the circumstances -- Kyron disappeared from school on a busy morning -- prompted him to ask for help from the feds.

"I wanted them involved because the last time this child was seen was inside a school," he said. "This was not a child walking away from their home or getting lost in the woods. This is a child who got lost inside a school with faculty there. That was the last time the child was seen."

The bureau pulled in agents from across the country. Two who would help with the technical aspect arrived that night. Another set of agents with expertise in missing-child cases landed at midnight. More joined Saturday morning.

By then, Kyron had been gone for 24 hours.

 
Though news organizations heard reports about a possible missing child over their police scanners and began trying to sort out what was going on, official public notification of the media was slow and sketchy.

Portland school officials didn't issue a news release that afternoon, and the public information officer for the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office only learned of the investigation some time that night between 7 and 7:15.

About an hour later, a sheriff's official met some reporters at Skyline School and released a photo of the boy, but the agency issued its first official news release on the investigation about 9 a.m. the next day.

Staton said his agency responded quickly to Kyron's disappearance.

"For the location of the school," Staton said, "this is a really good response time, especially when you are talking about a Friday, the time of day, rushing through traffic to get out here."

The FBI often volunteers personnel when children vanish. But the bureau does not consider itself a first responder in such emergencies, FBI spokeswoman Beth Anne Steele said.

"Relatively speaking," she said, "we were notified very early in the process."

It's been more than a week since Kyron's stepmother saw him walk toward his classroom in Skyline School after the pair toured the school science fair and admired Kyron's tree frog project. Investigators now characterize Kyron as a missing and endangered child.

The investigation, in its 10th day today, is one of the largest ever overseen by the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office and has included more than 500 searchers.

But Van Zandt said the likelihood that Kyron wandered out of the school, got hurt and is awaiting rescue is fading.

"The chances are getting slimmer and slimmer that that is what happened to him and that he could ... survive," Van Zandt said.

The moment an adult took note that Kyron wasn't at school Friday, an effort to find him should have been set in motion, Van Zandt said.

"And within an hour instead of 12 hours," he said, "this case would have been moving."

-- Noelle Crombie

-- Kimberly A.C. Wilson, Bryan Denson and Stuart Tomlinson contributed to this report. 

 
Related topics: kyron horman, multnomah county, portland, skyline school, terri moulton horman


Sometimes when we go back and read old articles again, things jump out at you that you missed the first time.

[sebastian]

I gotta say...after checking out some of Chana's posts on the anti-page, and what she has posted so far on her blog, she sincerely gives me a creepy feeling.  She alludes to CBS that she has screen shots of emails and PM's that CBS has sent to other people.  That, along with supposedly having all kinds of stuff on that Danielle Carter.  My God, does she sit there all day and look for incriminating (or hinky) stuff and make & store screen shots? Obsessed, a bit?   If CBS or DC had communicated privately with others, the other people had to have sent screen shots to Chana for her to have access to the info.   Just weird, and the more they post, the weirder it gets.

 

 

Chana knows TH and believes that she did something to Kyron.  Seeing how much a lot of us post on here and we don't even know Kyron, I can see where someone who actually knows the people involved would be REALLY involved.

I know that I would be looking to see for whatever I could glean.  Heck, I do it now. 

I know she knows TH, but if she has concrete information, which she HAS given to LE from what I understand, the last thing she should be doing is running all over the internet like a one-woman army trying to out everyone.  To me, it makes her lose credibility, which could be important if and when this goes to trial.  She could be damaging the case by trying to be a hero.

Like I said earlier, Tom Jones has already said that all of this stuff does not tell us where Kyron is or what happened to him....so...what's this all about?  It's certainly not about Kyron.

Is it simply women outting each other for supposed "lies" and seeing how nasty they can treat each over?  Is it that people get a false bravado because they're on the internet and not face-to-face? 

It all seems seems degrading to me...not the person they're attacking...but the person who's doing the frenetic attacking - that person seems to be degrading themselves on the world wide web. 

I think a lot of this has to do with perception. From everything that I have gathered from their postings, Chana was a good friend of TH's and supported her. She has now disassociated herself from Terri because she feels Terri is guilty of harming Kyron. Perhaps LE is preparing to arrest Terri. Maybe Terri's friends are running for cover. If Terri is arrested and most importantly if Terri is convicted, who would want the world to know that they continued to support this type of a person? That could haunt them for a long long time!

[Kat_Gram]

Anything said here can be read by anyone and it is.
When I get really bored, I look at the site meter and take a look at who is on and viewing from the area of Roseberg, Portland and surrounding areas. What they looked at, etc.
Today, we have had Roseberg and Tulatin ? Looking. Guess they are bored also or are very interested in the drama about DeDe today.

[hellokitty]

 

Kaine Horman Reality Show
Name of poster has been removed. Make of this what you wish!

"This page disgusts me -- this will be my first and last post here. But I want to set something straight. I used to be an admin at THSP. I have since closed the account I used to p...ost with because of the LOONS associated with this case. The admins at THSP trusted each other. We were FB friends and posted on each other's pages. We supported TH for different reasons - for me, it was because I felt Kyron could have been one of my children. I feared for him. I identified with his plight. I felt TH had a bum rap in the public eye and I supported her right to the presumption of innocence, if nothing else. I have always said I don't know if she did anything. I don't think she did, but I DON'T KNOW. I still don't know to this day. I do not believe DS had anything to do with the case. I still don't. After "Chana" started posting stuff on another page, it became quite apparent that a certain THSP admin-- the same one playing Chana for a fool NOW -- was feeding private info to those who did not support #1. It then also became apparent that this same person - who had claimed to have known Terri's family prior to the case - in fact did NOT know any of the case player prior to the case, and in fact, PURPOSELY inserted themselves into the case for attention. At that point I realized how unstable this person truly was. This person had contacted these strangers WHOSE CHILD HAD BEEN DISAPPEARED and tried to make herself part of the case. I was DISGUSTED BEYOND BELIEF. I had trusted this person. I considered this person a friend, at least on a superficial level. I immediately unfriended this person, left THSP and PMed those remaining and told them why I was leaving. Just prior to this, this same person had invited Sally Salamander into THSP. I was beyond disgusted. I wanted NOTHING to do with her or her blog -- it is complete libel and it makes me SICK. So I left and I never looked back. I remained friends with 2 of the THSP admins. The person who is currently playing Chana is a pathological liar. She was scorned by TH supporters (because we figured out she was a loon) so went running to whomever it was who would listen to her next. She totally and completely supported TH and DS. She loved the attention she got from DS and was giddy when she visited TH -- until TH's family caught on, and rejected her. Then she couldn't figure out why she had been rejected. It makes me freaking SICK that she is now trying to say that she did this as some "investigation". Bull-f-ing-SH!T!! She was a case whore - her husband knew it and he'd get pissed at her for pulling this cr@p. She has no damning information about anyone. She merely wants the attention. Bottom line -- there are people associated with this case that are f-ING LOONS. Do NOT believe anything you read. As for other people from THSP -- SL had good intentions, and I think she still does. Her nephew really did die in a horrific situation involving a school. But I disagree with the way THSP changed and the fact that SS was embraced. SL knows this. MB, from the beginning, started THSP with good intentions. She felt TH was being wrongly accused in the media, and she identified with her in some regards. MB's life got busy and she pretty much disappeared. Some people think she is Chana. I do not -- I know too much about her personal life to believe she would have time to do what Chana does. Danielle is a real person, separate from Eric, Windy, SL and MB, all of whom are real people. Danielle, to my knowledge, is not TH. I do not know if TH posts on FB -- I have no clue. I do know MB and SL are not TH -- I have seen evidence to prove they are not. Seriously people -- STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTERS. This ceased being about Kyron long, long ago. I left these pages when it became apparent to me that it was more about "us" vs "them" and not about Kyron. But the truth is, I'm not about to sit back and let some f-ING LOON try to pull one over on people who truly do care about Kyron. She is a LIAR Plain and simple. PLEASE -- ALL OF YOU -- Go back to SUPPORTING KYRON. This is all so senseless. Close these insane pages. Disassociate yourself from people who have agendas other than looking for this poor little boy. Don't ever forget, your child could be next. Think about that. I am not religious -- but, "There but for the Grace of God..." I will not post again -- here or elsewhere. I was done with this case a couple months ago -- completely DONE. I hope Kyron is found so that an end can come to this insanity. My heart breaks for that poor little boy..."See More
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[Puzzler]

Sebastian - TY

Somehow, I've missed reading this article before now.  It spells it out, doesn't it?

HOW can a "missing child" be given the "lowest priority" rating by dispatchers?  I do not get this!.

No sense of urgency when a 7 y.o. has gone missing.

And this article spells it out...district officials refuse to say "when" Kyron was marked absent.

Within an hour they should have been searching for Kyron.

And...plain and simple...the boy "went missing inside the school with faculty ther". 

Yep...that's a fact.

[sebastian]

Anything said here can be read by anyone and it is.
When I get really bored, I look at the site meter and take a look at who is on and viewing from the area of Roseberg, Portland and surrounding areas. What they looked at, etc.
Today, we have had Roseberg and Tulatin ? Looking. Guess they are bored also or are very interested in the drama about DeDe today.

Hi Kat_Gram!
What site meter??????

[klaasend]

Hellokitty - please post the link to that post.

[Puzzler]

Anything said here can be read by anyone and it is.
When I get really bored, I look at the site meter and take a look at who is on and viewing from the area of Roseberg, Portland and surrounding areas. What they looked at, etc.
Today, we have had Roseberg and Tulatin ? Looking. Guess they are bored also or are very interested in the drama about DeDe today.

Hi Kat_Gram!
What site meter??????

Sebastian - KG has signed off - I'll answer your question.

Scroll down to the bottom of the page - all the way down.
In the middle, there's a box with green letters: site meter
Click on the box.
All kinds of information about visitors to SM.
On the left - link to "by location" - click on that
Also on the left - link to "map" - interesting, too, for a quick look

[sebastian]

Sebastian - TY

Somehow, I've missed reading this article before now.  It spells it out, doesn't it?

HOW can a "missing child" be given the "lowest priority" rating by dispatchers?  I do not get this!.

No sense of urgency when a 7 y.o. has gone missing.

And this article spells it out...district officials refuse to say "when" Kyron was marked absent.

Within an hour they should have been searching for Kyron.

And...plain and simple...the boy "went missing inside the school with faculty ther". 

Yep...that's a fact.

It makes me CRAZY that this school has been given a pass! Regardless of who took Kyron (and you know I think Terri is involved), this school failed Kyron terribly! I also want to add that for a while I got really caught up in the unfair reporting on this case. I also got caught up in my dislike for one of Kyron's biological parents. I hated that everything was so one sided in this case when I know that there are always two sides to every story. But what I had to finally do is put aside all of my feelings for all of the players. The bottom line is this. If you had a cute innocent 7 year old little boy named Kyron and he disappeared and the last person ALLEGEDLY to see him walked out on her third poly and got an attorney and pleaded the 5th, wouldn't you be going completely insane about 7 months ago???? It makes me sick that Terri did not take as many poly's as were necessary. It makes me sick that she lawyered up and refuses to talk. I also think that all of the back and forth on the anti page and the reality show page is rude and childish, BUT if it can help bring ANY information to the table, than it is worth it. If Kyron was my little boy, I would have been in jail long ago for going after Terri with everything that I had until she answered each and every question to my satisfaction. Throw nanners, but this is the way that I feel!

[sebastian]

Anything said here can be read by anyone and it is.
When I get really bored, I look at the site meter and take a look at who is on and viewing from the area of Roseberg, Portland and surrounding areas. What they looked at, etc.
Today, we have had Roseberg and Tulatin ? Looking. Guess they are bored also or are very interested in the drama about DeDe today.

Hi Kat_Gram!
What site meter??????

Sebastian - KG has signed off - I'll answer your question.

Scroll down to the bottom of the page - all the way down.
In the middle, there's a box with green letters: site meter
Click on the box.
All kinds of information about visitors to SM.
On the left - link to "by location" - click on that
Also on the left - link to "map" - interesting, too, for a quick look

Wow! Very handy Puzzler, very handy! I told you that you are a smart monkey! I have been posting her for over a year and never even knew that existed!

[hellokitty]

 

The link to the info I posted about the former admin of the THSP page above is this

http://socallinkss2.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=kyronhormandiscussion&action=display&thread=40&page=45

It actually comes from the Kaine Horman Reality Show page, but I do not know that page.  I am not interested in that page.

[sebastian]

That site meter is a trip! Someone was visiting from Tasmania!

[klaasend]

The link to the info I posted about the former admin of the THSP page above is this

http://socallinkss2.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=kyronhormandiscussion&action=display&thread=40&page=45

It actually comes from the Kaine Horman Reality Show page, but I do not know that page.  I am not interested in that page.

Thanks.  I checked the Kaine Horman Reality Show and it's not there so it may have been deleted now.