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Author Topic: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #40 1/01/11 - 1/18/11  (Read 198354 times)
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« Reply #60 on: January 02, 2011, 12:59:59 AM »

Are you online Island Monkey? Isn't the Krause woman the person who owns a huge horse farm with some guy from M-E-X-I-C-O?

I could never figure that out....... but found a Janice E Krause that had a company in Virginia Equestrian area http://janalleather.com/About_Us.htm, I wonder if it's the same and think it is due to some connections, but again it was late and unvetted..... It was so late it and my mind was to boggled to vet much more and I was on the beach today, also she is copywritng Klaas post within those of TJ'er....



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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #39 12/24/10 -
« Reply #748 on: December 30, 2010, 10:15:38 PM »
Quote from: klaasend on December 30, 2010, 09:49:05 PM
I will not allow it to continue here. If you want to investigate Kaine then do it someplace else.
And if that means there is no discussion until the time of either an arrest or the divorce hearing next week that is fine with me too.


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Maybe Klass was seeing how silly it was for her great site to be bashing the bio parents. All the other good places that have the power players talking about how messed up her site was looking for condoning such behaviour might have woke her up.
Dd told me her mother and her mothers best buddy and dd her self post there.
Dd said she posts there, but would only make a random comment or two.
BS! I'm sure once she started posting she kept on posting. Fly hangs her hat there too.
Now with those four women posting there I wonder how it got swayed into a Kaine hate fest???
Can you say diversion? Look over here and not at the truth!!!
They have been playing around in this from the start.
Come on! You have to know that dds parents are going to talk, they are as invisible as all the other posters that are using a fake avatar name.
It's all they can do to help their side and cause. Steer the conversation away from the two main POI and toward the people who accused them to the public.
The parents of T&D are most likely the ring leaders or at least very close to them.
It would be Fly like to deny it.

"Copyright Dec 31, 2010 by Janice Cerin Krause"

So he is saying 4 of us are Dede, her mother, her mothers friend and whoever Fly was are all related to this? The 4 poster are not posting against Terri and questioning other things so must be Dede, her mom, her mom's friends. I would think he is pointing to maybe Puzzler, Maybe myself, maybe Sebastian, maybe monkey king and maybe Island Monkey?

Who are these "main players" he is talking about that was coming down on Klaas for "allowing" posters to have a different opinion and who are bringing down the site? Is that true Klaas? If you can't answer I understand, I am just curious is all.


  Monkey Devil! No clue......but rememeber when someone thought NRCG was Dede's mom..THUD, if the bothered to check they would have noticed we have been posting here for a long time, not since 05 but definitely far longer than this tragic case
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« Reply #61 on: January 02, 2011, 01:09:26 AM »

I am blushing. Well she talked about a golfball a few times, lol, she took some pics, gave some details, yep that is all you get from me. lol.

I knew you would blush Tracy, that is why I was joking with you about going porno on us, lol! Monkey Devil! I kept wondering what the golf ball references were all over facebook, lol!

Well I am trying to hide these posts from my kids who are near me playing with the wii. lol. I am changing the subject!
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« Reply #62 on: January 02, 2011, 01:09:34 AM »

I recently read somewhere that LE spent more than one night at the Horman household, in face many nights. Does anyone have a link for this? I kept wondering why Kaine did not force Terri's hand in regards to any knowlege that she may have had about Kyron's disappearance. Think about it, if you thought your spouse had taken your child, would you just stand around and ask politely where that child is? Not me! As soon as my spouse had closed his eyes and dropped off to sleep, I would find a way to get the info! Maybe LE hung around to protect Terri? I also heard that when DeDe went into the Grand Jury, no questions were asked of her. Does anyone have a link for that? The premise was that she came in, the Grand Jury got a LOOK at her and then she was dismissed. I will never forget that smug bug in a rug look on her face. That is one of the main reasons that I think that she is involved. Who does that? An innocent little 7 year old boy is missing and possibly deceased and she comes out of the Grand Jury all smug and sassy? UGH!
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« Reply #63 on: January 02, 2011, 01:15:54 AM »

No I would never give anyone the right to copyright my posts, lol.  I was just checking this Janice person out.  She spends alot of time on Facebook and seems to follow some other missing person cases.  Looks like she grew up in Northern California.   IMO, she is just someone else that has gone way overboard inserting herself in this case.  If she really is currently living in Oregon, she might know the family.  Who knows?
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« Reply #64 on: January 02, 2011, 01:17:50 AM »

I think it's just Tom's imagination running away with him.
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yep as soon as he knew his cuz was being looked at, zoom went the  imagination
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« Reply #65 on: January 02, 2011, 01:18:47 AM »

No I would never give anyone the right to copyright my posts, lol.  I was just checking this Janice person out.  She spends alot of time on Facebook and seems to follow some other missing person cases.  Looks like she grew up in Northern California.   IMO, she is just someone else that has gone way overboard inserting herself in this case.  If she really is currently living in Oregon, she might know the family.  Who knows?

Just to stop any speculation, I do not know this person just because I live in NorCal! lol.
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« Reply #66 on: January 02, 2011, 01:22:33 AM »



I still can't wrap my head around how TH could be so stupid to sext with a friend of KH when her computer and phones would be of interest to LE to find out what happened to Kyron.



Or to complain about Kyron and Kaine right before Kyron goes missing! Even if Terri is innocent, (which I highly doubt), the sexting sort of fits in with her personality. It is all about her and her needs. If she was really sick and tired of Kyron, his going missing may not have rocked her world. Therefore, the texting would not be a big deal for her. She wanted to nab Kitty out of daycare, so why not sexually manipulate Michael Cook to help her? What would be really ironic, is if Terri is not guilty of this and her horrible behavior and indifference to her step-son being missing is what lands her in jail. She certainly has not acted like a grieving parent of ANY kind. Maybe she just does not have it in her.

Yep, yep...can't wrap my head around the sexting to MC, nor emails of hatred against Kyron, NOR why any other person would assist her in a kidnapping (or worse) of a little boy.  Jail time!  Why? would someone help someone else do that?



I was trying to figure this out earlier and the best guesses I could come up with was

1. She somehow included the friend that helped in the story of why it happened in the first place . Like for instance say person A and B decided to plant a bunch of pot plants on land person B was an employee of. Person A's rage, resulting in death has nothing to do with that illegal activity but it's A's story so B is told the child found out and was planning on telling, which could potentially send us to prison forever, followed by a what should *we* do, I was just protecting *us* and claiming she was trying to scare not kill him.

2. Simply pick a name from the dumb and gullable friend catagory, call them up and feed them a bogus story like the accident happened when the child was again caught molesting a baby sibling. Then convince them to help out a friend. Some of TH's friends are under the impression that the definition of a proven fact = "because Terri told me", so finding a friend to help may have been easy.


I know those are pretty far out there but that's the best I could come up with after days of trying to figure out what kind of person would allow themselves put in a story like this.

Not too far out there considering these players. I would like to add C. Get a dopey bi-sexual woman to fall head over heels for you. Tell her that you "accidentally" hurt your beloved step-son and need help disposing of the body. Could the dope please come over and drive my cellphone around Suavie Island while I head off with the body in another direction? And could the dope please get me a receipt from one of the stores that I said that I was at?

IF Terri is guilty, I think that DeDe plays a part. Why has she refused a lie detector test? If she was just working on the farm the day of Kyron's disappearance, why not take the test?
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« Reply #67 on: January 02, 2011, 01:22:43 AM »

I think it's just Tom's imagination running away with him.
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I think Tom needs to realize there are billions of people living on the planet with him. He is suffering small world syndrome. I have over 5000 posts and have been here since  beautiful Sandra Cantu's case. A simple member profile search will do wonders to help investigate posters.
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« Reply #68 on: January 02, 2011, 01:23:52 AM »



This case wants me to change my nic here to: Clueless 
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« Reply #69 on: January 02, 2011, 01:24:54 AM »

I recently read somewhere that LE spent more than one night at the Horman household, in face many nights. Does anyone have a link for this? I kept wondering why Kaine did not force Terri's hand in regards to any knowlege that she may have had about Kyron's disappearance. Think about it, if you thought your spouse had taken your child, would you just stand around and ask politely where that child is? Not me! As soon as my spouse had closed his eyes and dropped off to sleep, I would find a way to get the info! Maybe LE hung around to protect Terri? I also heard that when DeDe went into the Grand Jury, no questions were asked of her. Does anyone have a link for that? The premise was that she came in, the Grand Jury got a LOOK at her and then she was dismissed. I will never forget that smug bug in a rug look on her face. That is one of the main reasons that I think that she is involved. Who does that? An innocent little 7 year old boy is missing and possibly deceased and she comes out of the Grand Jury all smug and sassy? UGH!

when i heard LE stayed in the home, i thought maybe kyron had been kidnapped, then the MFH plot leaked
i think LE knew about the MFH, way b4 the leak, and thats why they stayed, not sure how the LE, found
out about the MFH, so im prob wrong
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« Reply #70 on: January 02, 2011, 01:26:46 AM »

No I would never give anyone the right to copyright my posts, lol.  I was just checking this Janice person out.  She spends alot of time on Facebook and seems to follow some other missing person cases.  Looks like she grew up in Northern California.   IMO, she is just someone else that has gone way overboard inserting herself in this case.  If she really is currently living in Oregon, she might know the family.  Who knows?

Just to stop any speculation, I do not know this person just because I live in NorCal! lol.

 
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« Reply #71 on: January 02, 2011, 01:27:59 AM »

He is suffering small world syndrome
 
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« Reply #72 on: January 02, 2011, 01:29:16 AM »

Okay...DeDe's father is in LE...I just knew the day that we saw DeDe leaving her house to get in the car with her father that the first thing he would tell her to do is to NOT take a LDT. 

Those tests don't always work.  Because of that...they're not allowed as evidence in court.  Some people can show up as deceptive, when they're NOT being deceptive.  Some people can show up as truthful, when they're deceptive.

We "know" that.

People act like refusing to talk a poly is a sin and "proof positive" that the person is guilty of something. 

That's just not so.

IMO, DeDe didn't take a LDT because daddy told her not to...just my opinion, based on his line of work.

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« Reply #73 on: January 02, 2011, 01:29:19 AM »

No I would never give anyone the right to copyright my posts, lol.  I was just checking this Janice person out.  She spends alot of time on Facebook and seems to follow some other missing person cases.  Looks like she grew up in Northern California.   IMO, she is just someone else that has gone way overboard inserting herself in this case.   If she really is currently living in Oregon, she might know the family.  Who knows?


No doubt, she even posted a threat on FB to destroy anyone who post anything neagtive about anyone but Terri or Dede..... I knew the Madi McCann case was horrible but I think the FB aspect has made this one worse in many aspects sadly
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« Reply #74 on: January 02, 2011, 01:33:09 AM »

He is suffering small world syndrome
 

I sort of feel sorry for him...at times he almost sounds like he's going to lose it...at other times he's so accusatory, I get cold chills thinking he going to end up getting sued over it...at other times, I think he's reveling in the attention....recently, he's seemed a little down because he's gotten a hint that DeDe's brother and his friends are going to release some bad stuff on Tom on Facebook. (What would he expect after all he's done - he's also gone off the walls on Flymonkey, too).

That's just my take on reading his posts.
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« Reply #75 on: January 02, 2011, 01:34:03 AM »

Okay...DeDe's father is in LE...I just knew the day that we saw DeDe leaving her house to get in the car with her father that the first thing he would tell her to do is to NOT take a LDT. 

Those tests don't always work.  Because of that...they're not allowed as evidence in court.  Some people can show up as deceptive, when they're NOT being deceptive.  Some people can show up as truthful, when they're deceptive.

We "know" that.

People act like refusing to talk a poly is a sin and "proof positive" that the person is guilty of something. 

That's just not so.

IMO, DeDe didn't take a LDT because daddy told her not to...just my opinion, based on his line of work.



I hear what you are saying Puzzler, but daddy also has to know about public perception. My father would have said "if you are innocent take the test". If there are any problems, I will get you an attorney. Why would the Grand Jury just want to get a looksie at DeDe?
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« Reply #76 on: January 02, 2011, 01:35:25 AM »

He is suffering small world syndrome
 

I sort of feel sorry for him...at times he almost sounds like he's going to lose it...at other times he's so accusatory, I get cold chills thinking he going to end up getting sued over it...at other times, I think he's reveling in the attention....recently, he's seemed a little down because he's gotten a hint that DeDe's brother and his friends are going to release some bad stuff on Tom on Facebook. (What would he expect after all he's done - he's also gone off the walls on Flymonkey, too).

That's just my take on reading his posts.

Whatever game all of these players are playing, it sure seems to be rattling some cages. Maybe someone is shaking them trees to see what falls out?
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« Reply #77 on: January 02, 2011, 01:39:37 AM »

No I would never give anyone the right to copyright my posts, lol.  I was just checking this Janice person out.  She spends alot of time on Facebook and seems to follow some other missing person cases.  Looks like she grew up in Northern California.   IMO, she is just someone else that has gone way overboard inserting herself in this case.   If she really is currently living in Oregon, she might know the family.  Who knows?


No doubt, she even posted a threat on FB to destroy anyone who post anything neagtive about anyone but Terri or Dede..... I knew the Madi McCann case was horrible but I think the FB aspect has made this one worse in many aspects sadly

What? This is over the top in my opinion. I think people can feel strongly about something without threatening to distroy others who do not feel the same way. My goodness get a grip.
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« Reply #78 on: January 02, 2011, 01:44:31 AM »

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« Reply #79 on: January 02, 2011, 01:45:31 AM »

No I would never give anyone the right to copyright my posts, lol.  I was just checking this Janice person out.  She spends alot of time on Facebook and seems to follow some other missing person cases.  Looks like she grew up in Northern California.   IMO, she is just someone else that has gone way overboard inserting herself in this case.   If she really is currently living in Oregon, she might know the family.  Who knows?


No doubt, she even posted a threat on FB to destroy anyone who post anything neagtive about anyone but Terri or Dede..... I knew the Madi McCann case was horrible but I think the FB aspect has made this one worse in many aspects sadly

What? This is over the top in my opinion. I think people can feel strongly about something without threatening to distroy others who do not feel the same way. My goodness get a grip.

Oh trust me I know .......when the oil spill happened I was worried sick, then we had tar hit and it was clean within a week (although it never hit bad where I am) anyway I posted beach pics as normal on FB and I had death threats I was all of the sudden a BP employee, shill etc., and all I was saying is a random tar ball is NOTHING compared to what we know as tragedy, but most of those nuts are back on their meds and now onto another conspiracy. They thought the gulf was going to explode and kill 200 million people and that there were mercenaries running around, it was insanity
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