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« Reply #140 on: February 18, 2011, 11:53:17 PM »

Mags -- we can take this to Musings -- but, I am curious if you have any anecdotes on the status of "our" puppies!! 

Our puppies are a year old yesterday, I think.
My brother saw two of them...Wreck and Peter R. DeVries.. a week or so ago.
They are yuppie puppies in the loft district of Downtown Birmingham.  They are
as big as Hudson now, but not as filled out yet.
I still miss them.  They were a joy.
I'm flattered -- but, I hope the new owners re-named them!! 
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« Reply #141 on: February 18, 2011, 11:59:32 PM »

I watched 'The Good Wife" on Tuesday and it was about a defamation law suit.
The lawyers said that you can never prove a defamation lawsuit, because you
have to first prove intent.  The best hope is a settlement.

Dr. Phil won't settle. IMO
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« Reply #142 on: February 19, 2011, 12:05:46 AM »

I watched 'The Good Wife" on Tuesday and it was about a defamation law suit.
The lawyers said that you can never prove a defamation lawsuit, because you
have to first prove intent.  The best hope is a settlement.

Dr. Phil won't settle. IMO
Yes --- you can't defame swine!
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« Reply #143 on: February 19, 2011, 12:06:50 AM »

Peter R. DeVries twitter 

http://twitter.com/peterrdev

Google translation:

 ::snipping2::


Morning travel to a major case to a distant land ... No: Not for Joran!
8:34 PM Feb 15th from web
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #144 on: February 19, 2011, 12:39:05 AM »

http://www.aruba.com/news/happenings/14th-annual-carnaval-masquerade-party-march-4-2011/

14th Annual Carnaval Masquerade Party March 4, 2011

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The Carnaval season is in full swing with all kinds of events and happenings! You don’t have to march in the Grand Parades to get in touch with your Carnaval persona.
Enjoy the Masquerade Party at Renaissance Convention Center, presented by the Kiwanis Club of Palm Beach, working for good causes on Aruba throughout the year.
 ::snipping2::

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #145 on: February 19, 2011, 02:23:10 AM »



JUSTICE FOR NATALEE,


AND STEPHANY!

 

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #146 on: February 19, 2011, 09:58:51 AM »

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/27993-turista-ta-bula-y-suicida-for-di-grandeur-of-the-seas-panort-di-aruba.html

Papiamentu translation:



tourist is fly y suicida for of grandeur or the seas panort of aruba

saturday, 19 february 2011 09:20

one tourist abordo of the crusero grandeur or the seas owing to fly for of the barco cometiendo suicidio. past owing to let one carta behind also. is deal of one tourist among 20 cu 30 year die dad. for of instant cu the informacion owing to enter at once the crusero owing to beat alarma. the crusero owing to end of leave for of curacao y was bayendo another destiny. apparently is panama the will was bayendo. diaranzon the barco crusero here was at aruba. past owing to leave go curacao y now owing to follow his caminda pasando panort of aruba caminda cu the passenger owing to fly for of the barco. what is the motibo exact cu past owing to comete suicidio do not conoci. more bien past owing to let one carta but the contenido do not conoci. 

::snipping2::

saturday morning still was buscando as for her curpa at life or without life.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #147 on: February 19, 2011, 01:37:07 PM »

http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6500&Itemid=1

Papiamentu translation:



drama on crucero

saturday, 19 february 2011

oranjestad- yesterday evening for near of 10.20 capitan of the crucero ‘grandeur or the seas’ owing to avisa autoridadnan local c’un passenger of nacionalidad indonesian, owing to fly for of the crucero y for achieve aid in his buskeda. helicopter of tanto police because; of kustwacht owing to bay for her sitio in one buskeda for deal of achieve the tourist.

 ::snipping2::

the crucero was direction for colon, panama.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #148 on: February 19, 2011, 02:19:44 PM »

Beth Holloway: International Travel Safety

Tuesday, February 22, 2011 @ 7:00 PM | Appleton, Wisconsin


This is a FREE event for students, parents, educators, and all interested in learning more about safe international travel. Don't miss this special presentation by Beth Holloway.

Missing persons and travel safety will take the spotlight during a visit to the Fox Cities by Beth Holloway. Beth's daughter, Natalee, disappeared in Aruba during a 2005 class trip. Still unsolved, Natalee's highly visible case continues to captivate the nation.  Beth's special evening presentation at FVTC's Appleton campus will focus on the memory and legacy of Natalee, and provide a strong message about ensuring personal safety while traveling internationally.

Event Location

This event is free and open to the public, and will be held at 7:00pm. Registration is not required.

Fox Valley Technical College
Appleton Campus - Room A170 A-D
1825 N. Bluemound Drive
Appleton, WI  54914
Phone:  888-370-1752

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http://www.fvtc.edu/public/content.aspx?ID=1238&PID=117


+++++++++


A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

I Feel Such Regret

Page 31:
  Clutching both portraits, Jug and I drive to the private hangar at the far side of the Birmingham airport.  On the way I contact Cingular Wireless and have international calling activated on my cell.  I activate Natalee's too.  If she has hers with her, she can call me now.  If she had had international calling last night, she could have called someone for help.  Why didn't we do this before she left?  I feel such regret.

The Goal of Education

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:  The goal of education is twofold: to bring a message about personal safety to high-school and college students and to educate travellers.

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Natalee Holloway Resource Center (NHRC)
http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC

Mayday 360
http://www.mayday360.com/default.aspx


 

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« Reply #149 on: February 19, 2011, 03:05:05 PM »

http://www.sportsaruba.com/content/view/5864/26/

DEN UN WEGA HOPI ATRACTIVO TEAM ARUBA A SA DI GANA S.D.V. CU SCORE DI 6-5.           
on Saturday, 12 February 2011
Published in : , Futbol



STA.CRUZ--Diaranzon 9 di Februari 2011 tabata e di 4 wega amistoso di Team Aruba cu ta den full preparación pa nan participación den 2 diferente toernooi na Mei y Juni. Trainer ( Gilberto Spataro ) a traha e sigiente opstelling :
 

David Lacle ( keeper ), Mario da Silva, Shaun Every, Jersey Rivero, Toshiaki Faneyte,
Mateo Tromp, Patrick Lampe, Geoffrey Jacobs, Bryan Dubero, Sander Gottenbos, Jonathan Leest.

Wissels : Randrick Roza, Daimhy Caton, Graig Wever, Klayton Geerman ( keeper ).

Wega a cuminsa cu un ritmo basta halto di parti di Team Aruba y ta asina e prome gol di wega ta cai na favor di Team Aruba. Na di 8m. Aruba ta pone precion riba defensa di SDV y Sander Gottenbos ta kita e bala y un toke suave ta deposita e bala den gol. ( 1-0 )
Pero algo cu casi semper ta pasa nos ta perde concentración y SDV ta tuma un vrijetrap hopi liher y e bala ta kai tras di nos defensa unda e spits ta controla e bala perfectamente pa pasa e bala riba cabes di keeper. ( 1-1 )
Team Aruba a sa di reacciona asina fuerte cu den 10m. ta pone e wega 3-1 na favor di Aruba. Na di 12m. den un contra ataque Mateo Tromp ta wordo tumba y akinan un di nos specialista den vrijetrap Patrick Lampe ta buta e bala unda niun keeper ta jega. ( 2-1 )

 ::snipping2::

Di dos tempo nos ta ripara cu Team Aruba a drenta mas fuerte como resultado cu Sander Gottenbos ta lora e bala den pia di Daimhy Caton pa e wega bira 5-2. Despues di e gol aki Aruba a baha precion y akinan SDV aprobecha esaki lo maximo y hinka 3 gol den solo 20m. y pone e wega 5-5. Trainer Spataro a pone cos na ordo bek y hasi indicacion na su capitan Jonathan Leest pa pone precion atrobe. Por a mira un reaccion dibiaha paso ni 2m. después Daimhy Caton ta score atrobe pa pone e wega 6-5. Depues mucho no a pasa ja cu Aruba a sera bon patras y hunga mas trankil te cu e refree ta fluit final di wega. Asina Team Aruba a gana su di 3 wega y lo sigi cu su preparacionan.

Esnan cu a score :
   Daimhy Caton  2x
   Sander Gottenbos 1x
   Mateo Tromp  1x
   Jonathan Leest  1x
   Patrick Lampe  1x

Un pabien na tur e hungadornan y Technische Staf hopi éxito.



Papiamentu translation:

in one game much atractivo team aruba owing to know of earn s.d.v. cu score of 6-5.

on saturday, 12 february 2011

published in : come across, futbol

sta.cruz--diaranzon 9 of feburary 2011 was the of 4 game amistoso of team aruba cu is in full preparación for they participación in 2 various toernooi at half y june. trainer ( gilberto spataro ) owing to work the sigiente opstelling : david lacle ( keeper ), mario da silva, shaun every, jersey rivero, toshiaki faneyte, mateo tromp, patrick lampe, geoffrey jacobs, bryan dubero, sander gottenbos, jonathan leest. wissels : randrick rose, daimhy caton, graig wever, klayton geerman ( keeper ). game owing to cuminsa cu one rhythm enough high of part of team aruba y is so the first gol of game is cai at favor of team aruba. at of 8m. aruba is place precion on defence of sdv y sander gottenbos is less the ball y one toke suave is deposita the ball in gol. ( 1-0 ) but algo cu casi always is happen we is lose concentración y sdv is take one vrijetrap much liher y the ball is fall behind we defence where the spits is controla the ball perfectamente for happen the ball on cabes of keeper. ( 1-1 ) team aruba owing to know of reacciona so strong cu in 10m. is place the game 3-1 at favor of aruba. at of 12m. in one contra ataque mateo tromp is wordo tumba y akinan one of we specialista in vrijetrap patrick lampe is lay down the ball where niun keeper is jega. ( 2-1 ) 

::snipping2::

of two time we is ripara cu team aruba owing to enter more strong because; result cu sander gottenbos is lora the ball in leg of daimhy caton for her game become 5-2. after of the gol here aruba owing to descend precion y akinan sdv aprobecha this will maximo y hinka 3 gol in sun 20m. y place the game 5-5. trainer spataro owing to place cos at ordo bek y make indicacion at his capitan jonathan leest for place precion again. can owing to see one reaccion dibiaha pace neither 2m. después daimhy caton is score again for place the game 6-5. depues mucho not owing to happen ja cu aruba owing to close good behind y play more trankil till cu the refree is fluit end of game. so team aruba owing to earn his of 3 game y will sigi cu his preparacionan.

esnan cu owing to score :

 daimhy caton 2x
 sander gottenbos 1x
 mateo tromp 1x
 jonathan leest 1x
 patrick lampe 1x
 one pabien at all the hungadornan y technische staf much éxito.

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #150 on: February 19, 2011, 03:25:13 PM »

http://sander0122.hyves.nl/profile/

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #152 on: February 19, 2011, 09:10:29 PM »

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Please light a candle and say a prayer for Natalee and her family.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=NAH

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Nat%27s
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #153 on: February 19, 2011, 09:32:03 PM »

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/27993-turista-ta-bula-y-suicida-for-di-grandeur-of-the-seas-panort-di-aruba.html

Papiamentu translation:



tourist is fly y suicida for of grandeur or the seas panort of aruba

saturday, 19 february 2011 09:20

one tourist abordo of the crusero grandeur or the seas owing to fly for of the barco cometiendo suicidio. past owing to let one carta behind also. is deal of one tourist among 20 cu 30 year die dad. for of instant cu the informacion owing to enter at once the crusero owing to beat alarma. the crusero owing to end of leave for of curacao y was bayendo another destiny. apparently is panama the will was bayendo. diaranzon the barco crusero here was at aruba. past owing to leave go curacao y now owing to follow his caminda pasando panort of aruba caminda cu the passenger owing to fly for of the barco. what is the motibo exact cu past owing to comete suicidio do not conoci. more bien past owing to let one carta but the contenido do not conoci. 

::snipping2::

saturday morning still was buscando as for her curpa at life or without life.

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/27993-turista-ta-bula-y-suicida-for-di-grandeur-of-the-seas-panort-di-aruba.html

Papiamentu translation:
 ::snipping2::


COMMENTS:

comentarionan (3) mustra/kita comentarionan come across...

scirbi for bad-karma, february 19, 2011
ultimamente much tourist is hoga or fight or now comete suicidio hour they're at aruba or tbt recien at aruba. even 'karma' is feel cu we owing to become one island of pika, of corrupcion, of fornicacion, of abuse, of enganjo y drugs. immidiately reflexiona. +0 come across...

scirbi for anonymous, february 19, 2011
just for show, aruba have one enough good national security system. -1 come across...

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #154 on: February 19, 2011, 09:34:47 PM »

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« Reply #155 on: February 19, 2011, 11:05:35 PM »

ABSOLUTELY Klaas!

There's a 24ora article today where one of Nelson Oduber's son's (Glenson) is yacking about something, frankly I really didn't even care enough to try to figure out exactly what, lol.  But in the comments someone referred to what I think may have been the girl(s) that was/were raped and asked if he was a psycho like Joran van der Sloot part 1.

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/28000-glenson-oduber-niun-hende-por-silenciami.html

I snipped 2 of the 40 comments:

scirbi for ethan, february 19, 2011
dude come across, shut up alread and mean im american and have been living here for more than 20 years and im tired or all the bs that you and your bald father have been dishing out lately. one advise son go find owing to new hobby, in fact you and your dad can go to anger management for all and care peace +7 come across...

scirbi for less the spectacles ey, february 19, 2011
hahahahaahahahahahaaha much very pret awo you have become pujito, tanto mouth big look at con you have become awo come across.bai bek in do you pasado y just corda kico owing to happen cu the child muhe cubo owing to beat y after of the mature here do you parents owing to core sake the child muhe here for of aruba y door cu the not tawata aruban the not can owing to make nothing for can owing to defende his self. are you same psycho cu joran van der sloot but part 1 y awo do you wanted come play cubo not owing to break one kopi never!!!!!. +13 come across...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1069.580;wap2

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The info I have is that Chito is about 26 and has two allegations against him. These could be two separate incidents or two involving the same person.

He is a professional surfer and Gleason Oduber appears to be the manger of the surf team. Gleason could be the brother of Nelson Sr. I think he is.

One allegation against Chito is the alleged rape of a family maid. I do not know how accurate that is. It might not be accurate at all.

The second allegation involves the rape of an old girlfriend (possibly an American that has left the island or an Aruban woman who has left the island, either way the woman left the island) and these charges were either never pursued or the initial charges progressed and the fix was put in.

Paulus Van Der Sloot would have still been in the prosecutors office when this occurred and he would have had intimate knowledge of these charges and could have used them to blackmail people in the MEP and others. Remember the election was right around the corner and this would have killed the MEP if it was known that an Oduber son got preferential treatment.


Just because...lol

http://www.arubachamber.com/registry/registry_result.afp?KeyValue=36669


Close · Aruba, February 19th, 2011


Only valid if accordingly signed by the Aruba Chamber of Commerce & Industry - J.E. Irausquin Blvd. 10, Oranjestad, Aruba.

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 9 OCTOBER 2006 under serial number 35403.0 is the company with the tradename:

 
ARUBA SURF ASOCIACION - ARUSURF
 
Business address   NAYOSTRAAT 5, ORANJESTAD WEST
Legal form   ASSOCIATION
Name of the   ARUBA SURF ASOCIACION - ARUSURF
company/foundation/association:
Statutory seat   ARUBA
Date of   1 APRIL 1995
incorporation/commencement:
    
 
BOARD MEMBERS/AUTHORIZED PERSONS

BARAKAT, HASSAN;
Born in   LIBANON, TRIPOLI on 2 FEBRUARY 1966
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   PRESIDENT
Effective   9 OCTOBER 2006
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
ODUBER, GLENSON SANDER URBAN;
Born in   ARUBA on 20 JUNE 1975
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   VICE-PRESIDENT-DIRECTOR/TREASURER
Effective   9 OCTOBER 2006
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
BARAKAT, SALEH IBRAHIM;
Born in   LIBANON, TRIPOLI on 1 JULY 1971
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR/COMMISSIONER
Effective   9 OCTOBER 2006
 
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY

A. HET OPTREDEN ALS MOEDERORGANISATIE C.Q. FEDERATIE VOOR BESTAANDE EN NOG TE VORMEN SURF- EN BODYBOARD VERENIGINGEN;
B. HET SCHEPPEN VAN VOORWAARDEN OPDAT DE SURF- EN BODY-BOARD SPORT - ZOWEL ALS COMPETITIESPORT ALS WELL AS VORM VAN VRIJETIJDSBESTEDING - WORDT BEVORDERD;
C. HETORGANISEREN VAN SURF- EN BODY-BOARD COMPETITIES EN - WEDSTRIJDEN.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #156 on: February 19, 2011, 11:14:55 PM »

KARMA





Voice of Natalee

'Scarborough Country' for Oct. 24th
updated 7:06 a.m. PT, Tues., Oct. 25, 2005


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BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: I have told Prime Minister Oduber that I will do this, I will be the voice of Natalee for the next 40 years. And I hope I have that long, because I will do it as long as I can.

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« Reply #157 on: February 19, 2011, 11:21:57 PM »

Demand and Expect

'The Abrams Report' for July 1
updated 7/6/2005 10:47:38 AM ET


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BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER:  We cannot forget to demand and expect to have Natalee. Natalee deserves to return to her country. She deserves it, and everyone knows it, every single person. Every single person knows that. They know it.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8485029/
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« Reply #158 on: February 19, 2011, 11:45:47 PM »

I've been missing 2NJ.
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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


« Reply #159 on: February 19, 2011, 11:59:23 PM »

I've been missing 2NJ.

Me too!  I'm worried about her, hope she's o.k.!   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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