Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 - 3/20/11

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Justice itself is slow in Peru, for only the judiciary has just completed the first stage of the process instructive follows the Dutch Joran van der Sloot to assassinate Stephanie Flores, a young Peruvian 21.

As recalled in May 2010, Stephany Flores was found dead in a hotel room, where he was staying Dutch. This was the last to see her alive and Van der Sloot accused for the murder of the young, as safety videos, prove that he entered the room with her and she did not come out alive.

Now the Fourth Court, will conduct the relevant proceedings, and I was handed the case to the Prosecutor's Office to assess whether to grant an extension of time or have criminal charges against the alleged murderer, reported RPP.

http://www.generaccion.com/noticia/94335/expediente-holandes-van-der-sloot-recien-sera-remitido-fiscalia

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http://fvtcpresidentblog.com/2011/02/23/colleges-national-impact-on-families-of-the-missing/#more-577

College’s National Impact on Families of the Missing
Posted on February 23, 2011 by sbing

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Beth Holloway shared accounts of her missing daughter, Natalee, as part of our college's annual national conference on missing persons.

Beth Holloway, mother of Natalee Holloway, spoke at yesterday’s conference as well as at a session on campus for the community last night. Natalee was on a senior class trip to Aruba but didn’t return home with her classmates. She went missing and it was eventually determined that she had been murdered. Beth shared the incredible story of getting that call from Aruba, the months of effort to work with authorities in a foreign country to find Natalee, and her eventual resolve to turn this tragedy into making a difference for others. I can’t imagine how families deal with the abduction of loved ones and was in awe of Beth’s strength, courage, and resolve to live her own life in a way that was a positive force for others.  We had a great audience turn out from the community to hear Beth’s story firsthand.

I felt the closing message last night had application not only for cases of missing children, but for so many aspects of life. That message was this:  even when we do all the right things, sometimes bad things happen. And when they do, we need to constructively work through them with the best resources available and a resolve to make the most of the situation. When we face our own challenges, it is always good to keep the perspective that most likely others have dealt with worse things. Last night I couldn’t help but think that the senseless murder of one’s child had to be among the very worst of challenges.

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http://elcomercio.pe/lima/718995/noticia-pj-concluyo-primera-etapa-proceso-contra-joran-van-der-sloot

Google translation:

Joran van der SLOOT case

PJ completed the first stage of the proceedings against Joran Van der Sloot

The case file will be forwarded to the Prosecutor's Office to determine whether to file or filed criminal charges against the Dutch

Friday February 25, 2011 - 01:22 PM 2 comments

The Judiciary concluded instructive stage of the process followed to Joran van der Sloot for the murder of the young Stephany Flores.

The Fourth Criminal Court of Lima Prison Inmates in taking this action to complete an expansion that was available to take a series of measures within this law enforcement investigation.

The case file will be forwarded to the Prosecutor's Office for an evaluation and to determine whether an extension is requested, or if calls are dropped or filed criminal charges against a Dutch citizen.

To be the last option, the prosecution will move to a Superior Room for undertaking the trial against van der Sloot, who is currently detained at the Castro Castro prison.

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http://www.rpp.com.pe/2011-02-25-concluye-primera-etapa-de-proceso-contra-el-holandes-van-der-sloot-noticia_339837.html

Google translation:

Friday, February 25, 2011 | 11:08 pm

Completes first stage of proceedings against the Dutch Van der Sloot

It must be sent to the Prosecutor's Office to determine whether to grant an extension of time or have criminal charges against Van der Sloot.

The Judicial Branch closed the instructional phase of the process that follows the Dutch citizen Joran van der Sloot (22) for the murder of the young Peruvian Stephany Flores (21).

The Fourth Court adopted this measure to end deadlines for taking the appropriate steps.

It must be sent to the Prosecutor's Office to determine whether to grant an extension of time or have criminal charges against Van der Sloot.

The young Dutchman is held at the Miguel Castro Castro prison accused of murdering the girl after leaving a casino, which occurred in May 2010.

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http://www.peru.com/noticias/portada20110225/141026/Termina-etapa-instructiva-del-caso-del-holandes-Joran-van-der-Sloot-

Google translation:

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http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/themes/diario/images/fb.jpg

2/26/2011 Diario Front Page


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Article from August, not sure if we caught it at the time or not.  I came across it tonight and thought some of the commentary was interesting...there were two drownings that day...the first one was a tourist from Colombia; I snipped that part of the article.  The second was an elderly woman that had been staying at the Westin Aruba Resort, and that's what this part of the article is about.

http://www.diario.aw/2010/08/diadomingo-scur-cu-dos-caso-di-hogamento/

Papiamentu translation:

diadomingo dark cu two caso of hogamento

publication: diadomingo, 8 august 2010.

categoria: general

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of two caso at westin sinembargo, for more or less 2:45 therefore.m., algo owing to bay bad on beach fast westin aruba resort. much sospechoso is the mature, cu hotel security owing to try at tapa the cos here a-la- joran van der sloot, y not owing to calling police. they owing to immidiately calling ask for ambulance. casi not owing to neither give detayes of thing is pasando.

hotel security of westin have one mentalidad of “gestapo”, esta cu they're believe cu they self can fix all problem, y at end hour cu they stay “pega”, the hour numa is core ask yudanza externo. then ambulance owing to arrive, y owing to come resulta cu one muher owing to hoga. so owing to come achieve know of the seriedad of the caso, y owing to cuminza help door of aplica cpr.

prensa also owing to arrive, y canando on beach publico, behold hotel security owing to come stroba trabao of prensa. they owing to place hand on cameranan, y haci comosifuera cu the beach ey is “nan propiedad”. by what time westin owing to become owner of the beach? none rato prensa owing to lever territory of the hotel.

paramediconan all the time owing to cuminza practica cpr for deal at reanima the victima. is deal of one lady of edad, y casi the not was reacciona more. tog owing to follow cu cpr, place on brancard, y owing to leave bay cune in ambulance direction for hospital cu urgencia.

security wanted “sconde” all cos

all the time, hotel security y even one trahador of hotel dress in uniform oranje, owing to cuminza follow busca problem cu periodistanan aruban, y even push uno behind at one form ugly. after the trahador y the security was even “stimula” the turistanan present for they also haci same cu the periodistanan.

but turistanan not owing to worry cu the security stupid ey. because they does not for aruba bay “tapa” none caso more style of natalee holloway. es more, turistanan was contento cu prensa tey. they owing to stay “flabbergasted” of see con security wanted owing to “hush hush the local press”.

uno even owing to bisa: “we’re in aruba, grade in cuba!” as wait for cu security of westin listen esey good! of now provided that adelante, hour cu have one caso of abstraction big cu socede at westin, y cu formerly is immidiately leave write cu the caso is at one “highrise hotel”, kizas the instant owing to arrive for her name of westin leave write at big, for so everybody achieve know con good security is vigilando the territory here.

all the time, hour cu was transportando the tourist victima in ambulance, dado instant the lady owing to even as ‘reacciona’ back, y was give the personal speranza cu the is logrando. is the hour numa, then enough minuut after, at last is centro of alarma owing to dicidi at calling police y notifica they kico is pasando. more cu claro, command policial owing to become furious. they do not compronde what type of mentalidad security of westin have.

at hospital, the personal profesional owing to haci all they esfuerzo but not owing to succeed save the person. for more or less 3:00 therefore.m., docter at keep at servicio of emergencia at hospital owing to constata dead of grace griffin berg, naci at u.s.a. day 27 of feburary 1927 y is kedando at westin aruba resort. according entendi the was biahando cu one girlfriend cu also is one person of edad.

kico exactly owing to socede? police not know, because security y empleadonan of westin casi does not open mouth, they wanted for all cos worde scondi, y they temor of more big is for her leave in prensa internacional. at family of jorge, y also family of grace, daily paper is extende his more deep word of condolencia.

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JUSTICE FOR NATALEE,

AND STEPHANY!

 

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http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/28302-accidente-cu-morto-na-sta-cruz.html

Papiamentu translation:

cabayero achieve dead in pick-up at papilon

saturday, 26 february 2011 10:29

saturday morning trempan bisiñanan in becindario of jr autocenter at papilon owing to listen one sonido enough strong but not owing to realisa till in oranan more late of morning cu is deal of one car cu owing to drentra forest. owing to come achieve one man dead in the car. 

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at arrival of personal of ambulance, much more not can owing to wordo haci ja cu the chauffeur not was give more sign of life. doctor lin owing to present at the sitio y owing to constata dead of m. tromp live at nobelstraat naci 30 of october 1952. fiscal van deutekom also owing to present at sitio. according conocinan apparently "frannie" was abide of curason.

[klaasend]

This article is saying he hit his head on the dashboard?

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=6407&offId=0

CHOFER DI PICK-UP CU A BAHA CAMINDA DRENTA MONDI A SER HAYA SIN BIDA DEN E AUTO CU SU CABEZ ABAO DI E DASHBOARD

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This article is saying he hit his head on the dashboard?

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=6407&offId=0

CHOFER DI PICK-UP CU A BAHA CAMINDA DRENTA MONDI A SER HAYA SIN BIDA DEN E AUTO CU SU CABEZ ABAO DI E DASHBOARD

That's what I think it says, can you hit your head on the dashboard hard enough that it breaks the windshield?
 

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Keep on drinking and blogging Julia...by all means!   

Snipped from RU

Just more confirmation IMO that Joran confessed in 2005, and they all know it.  Considering the arrests and nature of the charges in 2005....IMO the confession then was quite a bit more detailed than what he told Patrick.




 

[Tamikosmom]

In her neverending quest for answers regarding the happenings encompassing the disappearance of her daughter ... the encounter with Joran van der Sloot in the Peruvian lockup was not Beth Holloway's only face to face.

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Face to Face with Paulus

Loving Natalee – Beth Holloway

Page 147-151:   Little beads of sweat form across Paulus’s brow and forehead.  My arms rest on top of the investigation notebook I carry with me all the time.  Natalee’s reward poster with her picture on it is inside the front clear cover, in plain view.  Paulus’s arms are on the table.  Our knuckles are only inches apart arms are shaking.  His fists are clenched.

"You're responsible for Aruba being trapped in hell," I tell him, still calm.  "You can change that.  But Aruba will stay in a perpetual state of hell until you come forward."

I gently push the notebook toward him so he can see Natalee.  Anita remains silent.  The breeze is blowing ever cooler through the room now, yet the sweat on Paulus is increasing.

“How did Joran get home that night, Paulus?”  He responds that he doesn’t know.  “Did he go to school the next day?”  He responds again that he doesn’t know.

Greta and I have many questions.  “you mean this is the most critical time in your son’s life – he is being held on suspicion of kidnap and murder – and you don’t know how he got home or if he went to school?”

Paulus stammers when he answers.  He hesitates.  He sounds unnatural and blinks rapidly.  His head is down.  The beads of sweat turn to bubbles that grow together and gather under his chin, then drop – splash – onto the table below.

Pulling a couple of prayer bracelets out of my pocket, I offer them to the van der Sloots.  First I tie one on Anita’s arm, then ask  Paulus if he would like one.  He lifts his clench-fisted arm, shaking as if he has Parkinson’s disease, and tries very hard to hold it up.  What a pathetic form of a man he is, I think – a very different person from the one who stood so brazenly in his front yard in the wee hours that first morning, facing down Aruban police and our men from home.  I take my time tying the bracelet, very, very slowly, and explain the meaning of the three cords of yarn.

“Paulus, this bracelet stands for a Bible verse.  It’s Ecclesiastes 4:12.  “Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves.  A cord of three stands is not quickly broken.””  I finish the tying and gently pat the knot.  “There you go.”

And right then the bracelet looks different to me.  I see the three cords as the suspects, and the knot as the end holding them together as Paulus.  It’s not just clear – it’s crystal clear.   There are potentially four people who know what happened to Natalee.  We need the knot to come loose and the three to unravel.

Anita gets a kitchen towel and first blots Paulus’s head.  Then she lays it on the pools of sweat that have formed on the table in front of him and, in one big swipe, folds the towel over and cleans it away.

No one could have predicted that this encounter would take place.
 

[Tamikosmom]

Face to Face with the Aruban Prime Minister

'Scarborough Country' for Oct. 24th
updated 7:06 a.m. PT, Tues., Oct. 25, 2005

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BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY:  I met with Prime Minister Oduber. I don‘t care who you put the pressure on, where it comes from, but I want—you need to figure it out. You need to figure out who needs to apply the pressure and where it needs to be applied, because you have to solve this crime. I said, you do not want to turn me loose from this island without  an answer.  I will be the voice of Natalee for the next 40 years. And I hope I have that long, because I will do it as long as I can.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9813596/

[Tamikosmom]

Face to Face with Deepak

Mother confronts Aruba suspect
Holloway's mother questions Kalpoe about disappearance of missing teen
August 9, 2005
 
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It's been over nine weeks since Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway disappeared on the last night of her vacation in Aruba.  Since then, her mother Beth Holloway Twitty, has stayed on the island to take part in the search effort.

Her relentless determination for answers brought her face-to-face with Deepak Kalpoe, one of the three suspects involved in the disappearance. Under the guise of developing film, Beth Holloway showed up at the internet cafe where he works. 

She tells MSNBC-TV host Joe Scarborough that Deepak avoided her questions and avoided eye contact.

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: I don’t know how long I was in there.  It may have been an hour.  It could have been longer.  We went in there to develop some pictures, just trying to give Deepak an opportunity to talk to me.  We know that he has some answers.  And I think one of my biggest questions that I have is that Joran committed a sexual assault against Natalee in the car and we know Deepak and Satish were there. 

I just asked him, did you try to help Natalee or did you participate?  He can’t even answer that.  He would just either refer to it with silence or his attorney told him not to speak with me.  And I just can’t imagine, given that opportunity, that he would not want to take advantage of it to clear his name, with Natalee’s mother standing right there in front of him. 

JOE SCARBOROUGH, ‘SCARBOROUGH COUNTRY’ HOST: So, you went to this Internet cafe and asked him about the reports of the sexual assault or the rape in the car, and he just simply refused to answer? 

HOLLOWAY: Now, I can’t refer to it as rape, but I can refer to it as sexual assault.  That’s as far as I can go with it.  I know that some was occurring.  He would either answer me with silence, or would not look at me.  I had to keep telling him over and over again, pick your head up.  Look at me when I’m talking with you.  I’m trying to help you.  You know, look at the damage, look at what he’s doing to Aruba. 

The citizens, I’m sure, are outraged at how he is just disregarding any type of respect for maintaining Aruba’s integrity.  There are a lot of people that have been watching, and even from the U.S., and we all want answers and we’re giving him every opportunity to clear his name.  And he can’t do it.   

SCARBOROUGH: Did you, at any point in this meeting, just simply say, hey, listen, I don’t think you’re telling the truth; your story that you’ve been telling the police, or I guess I should say your stories, just don’t add up?  Did you call him a liar? 

HOLLOWAY: I didn’t call him a liar, but I can tell you, in that hour or hour-and-a-half I was there, I asked him repeatedly.  I was very persistent.  I did not stop.  I kept reminding him that we’ve got a $250,000 reward for the whereabouts of Natalee.  We are offering $1 million for her safe return.

We, as her family, are doing everything we can to make this worthwhile, to come forward.  We’re giving him lots of choices and opportunities to come forward and do the right thing.  I offered him to please come on one of the shows with me, yours tonight.   

But that just shows, some huge level of guilt and involvement.  He cannot even look at Natalee’s mother.  He can’t even deny it. 

SCARBOROUGH: Yes.  I think it’s absolutely fascinating that you go in there and he can’t even make eye contact with you, that, here you are, the person that’s obviously anguished by the disappearance of your daughter and possible death of your daughter, you go try to talk to him, and you’ve got to tell him, make eye contact with me; look in my eyes. 

So you sensed that he looked guilty to you?  Was he obviously intimidated by your presence in there? 

HOLLOWAY: I’ll tell you, he looked sick to me.  He looked sick with worry. 

All I saw were his eyelids the entire time, except when I would tell him he had to look at me.  That’s all I saw.  His head was down.  He was nervous.  I mean, he was just continually going back and forth to the computer, just frantically typing, just senseless typing.  I could see where I was seated that it was just senseless typing.  He was just that  fright or flight that someone gets, but he couldn’t flight, so all he had was fright in there. 

SCARBOROUGH: Now, is he following your campaign?

HOLLOWAY: Obviously, he was on duty. 

SCARBOROUGH: Yes, obviously on duty, trying to stay away from your questions. 

Is he aware of the campaign, the aggressive campaign that you’re going through every night on TV?  Does he understand that you’re not going away, that you’re going to keep going back on TV time and time again until you get justice for your daughter? 

HOLLOWAY: You know, I think he is truly aware of it.  I’m encouraged by the fact that he is watching.  I think he’s got a vested interest in this case, I thought it was amusing. 

The one question that he did ask me, and this was probably 10 minutes before I was leaving.  He told me that the media has not seen this side of you.  I told him, I’d been saving it for you, Deepak. 

SCARBOROUGH: What side is that? 

HOLLOWAY: I think it’s just the side that, I will stop at nothing to get answers.  There is nothing that I won’t do.  There’s nowhere that I won’t go.  I’m going to ask every question.  I don’t care how painful it is.  I will do it, because I’m not going to have any regrets.   

There are too many people that have been supporting me and they want answers too.  So, if I’m in the position to ask them, I need to take advantage of it.  I had the opportunity and I did the best I could, because, it’s a tragedy for Aruba and it’s a tragedy for all of us involved.  These citizens deserve better than that.  They’re good people here.  They do not deserve to be put through what Deepak and Satish Kalpoe and Joran Van Der Sloot and the father, Paulus, are putting them through.  They’re subjecting their country to this.  It’s a tragedy.  It is a shame. 

SCARBOROUGH: Did you ever ask him questions like, where is my daughter?  Is my daughter still alive?  Did you kill my daughter?  Did it ever go to that level, where you were really asking just the tough, tough questions? 

HOLLOWAY: Joe, I’ve got a lot more days on this island, so I’m not going anywhere.  I’ve got plenty of time.  I’ve got lots more pictures to be developed at the Internet cafe.   

SCARBOROUGH: Here we have, again, people writing around the United States, thousands of miles away, and yet they’re taking the posters down there.  Did you mention that to him?  Did you mention it to anybody in the store? 

HOLLOWAY: Oh, absolutely.  There was a customer at the counter at the same time I was there.  The man knew who I was.

I had to explain that the reward for the $1 million for a safe return and the $250,000 for her whereabouts, because, you know, the tourists that come here, they ask me, where are her posters?  Why don’t you have her posters up?  And, if I put them up, I can’t help it if this business owner took her poster down. 

It saddened me greatly, because we are trying everything we can, as her family, to bring forth a resolution.  But we’ve got to have some help.  And, for the most part, they remain in these businesses on the walls and on the glass doors, and that’s where we need to get the message out.  But, if I put one up and his owner, this is what Deepak told me, that his manager or boss made him take it down.  So, the only thing I know to do is to go back and try again. 

SCARBOROUGH: Do it again.  You were with Deepak for an hour, at least an hour.  You saw him avert his eyes from you.  You saw him look down.  You saw him type nervously.  Let's go back to the first night you got to the island, You immediately figured out that Joran and Paulus Van Der Sloot were involved just by reading their body language. 

After being in the presence of Deepak for an hour earlier today, are you convinced that he is involved in the disappearance of Natalee? 

HOLLOWAY: Oh, absolutely.  Anybody that was in there and saw him would agree 100 percent.  There wouldn’t be one person that didn’t believe that he had involvement if they would have been in there and witnessed and been in his presence.  There’s no one that wouldn’t believe that he has involvement.

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http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/8885950/

[Tamikosmom]

Face to Face with Deepak

Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
 
Page 174:  "Don't you want the money, Deepak?  Tell us what happened to Natalee."  He says only two thrings.  "I don't need the money."  Then, "The media have never seen this side of you."  To which I repliy, "I was saving it for you, Deepak."
 
I stood up for Natalee again today.  In the face of one of her Perpetrators.  And it felt good.

[Tamikosmom]

Face to Face with Joran

Beth Holloway

Exerpts:

'I wanted to peel the skin off his face. I'm thinking this is it, this is my one chance and I'll never get this chance again.

'My eyes met his and we were face to face. The only thing I had left in me was just to speak from the heart.'
 
'Tell me what happen.  Let me take her home.'

'If he thinks I've been pestering him for the past five years, he hasn't seen anything yet.'

'There is more to come … there is more to come.'

September, 2010
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1327180/Natalee-Holloways-mother-comes-face-face-Joran-Van-der-Sloot-jail.html

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/archief/de-confrontatie-tussen-beth-en-joran/