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« Reply #740 on: March 15, 2011, 12:16:48 PM »

I hate legal jargon, but I think the papers say that Dr. Phil's side is strongly opposed to another continuance and that deposing Beth (as apparently the K2 attys want to do) would/could cause K2's side to ask for another delay. Dr. Phil's side has no objection to Beth testifying at trial but opposes the taking of her deposition before April 11th.


It looks to me that the judge has authorized Plaintiff's attys to take Beth's deposition.


I think that's what the document says, anyway. Thanks Klaas, for these!!   


CBB ... I agree.  I now know how my grown kids feel when I relate an event with too much detail and ... they plead "Mom .. get to the point".

Klaas ... thanks for pointing the documents.

Janet


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« Reply #741 on: March 15, 2011, 12:25:55 PM »

TMZ!

http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/15/dr-phil-natalie-holloway-the-dr-phil-show-beth-holloway-deepak-satish-kalpoe-defamation-deposition/

Dr. Phil Loses Battle in Natalee Holloway Case

3/15/2011 6:51 AM PDT by TMZ Staff 

Dr. Phil just lost his bid to block Natalee Holloway's mom from testifying about what happened behind the scenes when "The Dr. Phil Show" aired an exposé implicating 2 men in Natalee's death.

Deepak and Satish Kalpoe are suing Dr. Phil and CBS for defamation, claiming the show "was deceptively clothed as an investigative piece looking into the disappearance of [Natalee]" but was "in reality an abhorrent example of manufactured media sensationalism at its worst."

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Thanks Klass.

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« Reply #742 on: March 15, 2011, 12:31:29 PM »

New front page post - TRIBUTE to 2NJ:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/03/15/scared-monkeys-says-good-bye-to-one-of-their-own-2njsons_mom-passed-away-to-our-friend-rest-in-peace/

Scared Monkeys Says Good Bye to One of Their Own … 2NJSONS_MOM Passed Away, To Our Friend, Rest in Peace


Thanks Klaas.  Thanks Red.

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« Reply #743 on: March 15, 2011, 12:46:35 PM »

I had felt that info from Joran's computer would not be turned over to the FBI without a challenge from the Aruban/Dutch "powers that be" and/or Joran's attorney.

I am thankful I was wrong.

Janet

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FBI gets van der Sloot laptop info
Published: 5:28 am
Updated: 9:38 am


Birmingham, Al (CBS42)  The FBI was given a copy of the files of Joran van der Sloot's laptop...but what clues will that hold to the fate of Natalee Holloway?

The Lima newspaper El Commercio reports that the Peruvian National Police (PNP) gave FBI agents a copy of the hard drive Monday afternoon.  Oscar Gonzales, head of the PNP high tech division said the Americans are interested not only in Natalee's disappearance but also information about the alleged extortion of the Holloway family in 2010.

Gonzales said the computer held "additional information that seems to be of interest."

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http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/FBI-gets-van-der-Sloot-laptop-info/uqymhtZn8kiXT-X25wuaOg.cspx
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« Reply #744 on: March 15, 2011, 01:27:18 PM »

Thanks Klaas and generous donor! 

Klaas, is it required that a witness in a civil trial, must be deposed first?

The plaintiff claims the taking of Beth's deposition will not further delay the hearings.   What happens if the depo is not taken before trial (for whatever reason)?  Can attempts be made during trial? 

The judge says Beth's deposition will not delay the hearings, period. 

Thanks Klaas.   

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« Reply #745 on: March 15, 2011, 02:09:28 PM »

 

http://www.24ora.com/curacao/28952-tripulante-di-carnival-miracle-perdi.html

Papiamentu/Google Spanish translation:

lost crew of Carnival Miracle

tuesday, 15 march 2011 13:00

the ship carnival miracle Owing to arrive aruba missing one employee. Owing to leave the boat for of Curacao and Aruba come. the person is one Felipinas of alarededor of 47 anja. Have past cu indication lever Owing to ship at aruba curacao But Not Assure Owing to Owing to arrive. Owing to Happen What Do Not known. 
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in short time is of three person board of cruiser is cu cu lose is after the exit of for of curacao.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #746 on: March 15, 2011, 02:35:52 PM »

TMZ UPDATE (maybe they are reading here, lol):

http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/15/dr-phil-natalie-holloway-the-dr-phil-show-beth-holloway-deepak-satish-kalpoe-defamation-deposition/

UPDATE:  Dr. Phil's lawyers tell TMZ ... they have no problem with Beth Holloway's deposition ... they just don't want to delay their motion to throw out the case.  The judge agreed with Phil's attorneys, ruling although Beth's depo was fair game, it would not delay Phil's motion to dismiss the case.
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« Reply #747 on: March 15, 2011, 02:40:55 PM »

TMZ UPDATE (maybe they are reading here, lol):

http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/15/dr-phil-natalie-holloway-the-dr-phil-show-beth-holloway-deepak-satish-kalpoe-defamation-deposition/

UPDATE:  Dr. Phil's lawyers tell TMZ ... they have no problem with Beth Holloway's deposition ... they just don't want to delay their motion to throw out the case.  The judge agreed with Phil's attorneys, ruling although Beth's depo was fair game, it would not delay Phil's motion to dismiss the case.

 

Thanks for pointing them in the right direction Klaas!   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #748 on: March 15, 2011, 02:51:36 PM »

TMZ UPDATE (maybe they are reading here, lol):

http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/15/dr-phil-natalie-holloway-the-dr-phil-show-beth-holloway-deepak-satish-kalpoe-defamation-deposition/

UPDATE:  Dr. Phil's lawyers tell TMZ ... they have no problem with Beth Holloway's deposition ... they just don't want to delay their motion to throw out the case.  The judge agreed with Phil's attorneys, ruling although Beth's depo was fair game, it would not delay Phil's motion to dismiss the case.

Somehow I believe that Beth's deposition is another delay tatic that will move the trial date up again.  I hope I am wrong.

When it is considered that case documents requested by Phil McGraw's attorneys were never forthcoming ... I cannot comprehend why the judge has not dismissed the case.

Janet

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A SWORD AND A SHIELD

Holloway Case: New Kalpoe Documents
Friday, September 14, 2007


JOHN KELLY, FAMILY'S ATTORNEY: I believe David Koch (ph), one of the attorneys for the Kalpoes actually signed a declaration at the court indicating that even if the court ordered the documents be turned over, they were not going to turn them over, which was sort of, for lack of a better word, arrogant on his part. The court did not necessarily like that.

But I can't see them both using the courts as a sword and then a shield. They can't bring this action, they can't seek damages and not obey the orders of the court and expect their case to go forward.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296798,00.html


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« Reply #749 on: March 15, 2011, 02:54:47 PM »


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Freebirds individual watched Joran logging in at Freebirds and at SM.
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One day after we did the Switched cars story:

Reply #51 on: July 10, 2008, 09:49:25 AM
Here is the latest from Natalee's Freebirds:
Sanitizing the Vehicle ~ Too Little Too Late, Or Bait and Switch?
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=615.40

at ScardMonkeys.net reading that document

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Middle of the night in Bangkok



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Here is the page he got to SM from, it's on a Thai website.....

What goes around comes around …
Joran Van der Sloot may have found a way to con his way out of a crime in Aruba with a Joran_vander_SlootHellcomplicit, inept and corrupt system in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway; however, he may have bitten off more than even he can get away with in Bangkok, Thailand.Peter R. de Vries, Dutch crime reporter, showed images Sunday night on his TV show of Joran Van der Sloot allegedly recruiting Thai girls to work in the sex industry in Europe. It appears that Judicial authorities in Thailand have requested copies of the images of Joran Van der Sloot.
ตามไปดูฉบับเต็มได้ค่ะ (ต้องขอโทษด้วยวีดีโอเป็นภาษาดัตช์นะคะ)
http://scaredmonkeys.com/category/joran-van-der-sloot/



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« Reply #751 on: March 15, 2011, 02:58:57 PM »


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« Reply #752 on: March 15, 2011, 03:01:44 PM »

HEY TMZ!  - READ THIS!



This is what the handwritten part on the ORDER for out of state Deposition says (I think):

"Based upon Plaintiff’s counsel’s representation in the moving (?) papers, this deposition WILL NOT AFFECT any council precedures or schedules already in place.  Plaintiff is ordered to follow all Alabama requirements for the proper noticing and service upon the proposed deponent for any such deposition."

Klaas could be the roving reporter for virtually anyone when it comes to Natalee's case! (and most other cases too!)   

Well, all I can say is that the K2 attys might need a pair of speed skates to get this accomplished before April 11th. I'd venture to say that if Beth doesn't "choose" to be served legal notice, she can avoid it, and even if she is served, she's a busy woman with a busy schedule.   
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« Reply #754 on: March 15, 2011, 03:18:49 PM »

WOW Kermit.  What day did he get picked up?  I forget.
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« Reply #755 on: March 15, 2011, 03:20:33 PM »

WOW Kermit.  What day did he get picked up?  I forget.

I think it was later that day irrc.   
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #756 on: March 15, 2011, 03:21:22 PM »

WOW Kermit.  What day did he get picked up?  I forget.

I think it was later that day iirc.   

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #757 on: March 15, 2011, 03:27:15 PM »

WOW Kermit.  What day did he get picked up?  I forget.

http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/timeline-joran-van-der-sloot-stephany-flores

Joran van der Sloot first hit the news in 2005, in connection with the disappearance of the US high school graduate Natalee Holloway. This week, he confessed to the murder of Peruvian woman Stephany Flores. Here’s an overview of the recent events.

Wednesday 2 June
Joran van der Sloot (22) is suspected of involvement in the murder of 21-year-old Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez in Peru. Her body is found in a hotel room, booked in his name, in the capital Lima. She is thought to have died on 30 May. That is exactly five years after the disappearance of Natalee Holloway on the Caribbean island of Aruba, a case in which Van der Sloot has always been the chief suspect, but which has never been solved. Van der Sloot, who was in Lima for a poker tournament, is now on the run.

Two Peruvians state they were paid 500 euros to take Van der Sloot to the Chilean border. It’s thought he’s staying in Arica, a town in northern Chile just 18 kilometres from the border.

Thursday 3 June
Following a hunt by Chilean police, Van der Sloot is arrested while travelling in a taxi from the coastal town of Vina del Mar to the capital Santiago. He is taken to Santiago to await an international arrest warrant issued by Peru.

Friday 4 June
Van der Sloot is flown back to Arica and handed over to the Peruvian authorities.

A prosecutor in the US state of Alabama charges Van der Sloot with extortion. He is said to have asked the mother of Natalee Holloway for 250,000 dollars, in exchange for details about her disappearance.

At the request of US justice officials, police in the Netherlands raid the Hulshort home of Dutchman Jaap Amesz – better known as ‘Terror Jaap’ after his appearance on the TV programme The Golden Cage. Jaap Amesz interviewed Van der Sloot about Natalee Holloway’s disappearance in 2009 and is thought to still be in contact with him. The police seize computers and mobile phones.

Saturday 5 June
After a 20-hour car journey, Van der Sloot arrives in Lima. He is officially placed under arrest and charged with the murder of Stephany Flores.

Sunday 6 June
Van der Sloot is displayed before the Peruvian press. Images taken by security cameras in the hotel where he stayed are released, as well as pictures from his first interrogation. He denies any involvement in the murder.

Tuesday 8 June
Peruvian media and US television news channel CNN report that Van der Sloot has confessed to the murder of Stephany Flores. This is later confirmed by the Peruvian authorities. He is said to have killed her on impulse after finding her in his hotel room looking at his laptop computer, on which was stored information about the Holloway case.

Wednesday 9 June
A Colombian newspaper reports that Colombian police are also investigating Van der Sloot’s movements, to determine whether or not he was involved in the disappearance of two girls in the capital Bogotá, at the beginning of May. He was reportedly spotted in various casinos in the city in the company of young girls.
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« Reply #758 on: March 15, 2011, 03:29:05 PM »

Still can't help but wonder if Anita's cousin that lives in Santiago assisted him in any way.  I think he was headed there for a reason. 

 

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1103384831

From the video of his backpack items...

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Chilean Police Detain Van der Sloot in Peru Murder

Published June 03, 2010


Chilean police have detained Joran van der Sloot, the longtime suspect in the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, as the chief suspect in the murder of a Peruvian woman who was found dead in his hotel room in Lima.

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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/02/report-natalee-holloway-suspect-sought-murder-peru/
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