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Topic: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 - 3/20/11 (Read 341550 times)
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antunym
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
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Quote from: texasmom on March 17, 2011, 02:41:41 PM
Quote from: antunym on March 17, 2011, 02:35:01 PM
Quote from: texasmom on March 17, 2011, 03:00:29 AM
Quote from: IBE on March 17, 2011, 02:02:18 AM
Quote from: texasmom on March 16, 2011, 11:12:30 AM
Quote from: klaasend on March 16, 2011, 10:09:12 AM
I don't even know if this is the same Leonard Riviera BUT I find this Myspace photo weird.
http://www.myspace.com/rvrlalolnrd
This one from his FB kinda bothered me...look at her eyes. No idea who she is but it looks like she's on something imo.
No pun intended here, but I am not seeing the "eyes". Where am I supposed to be looking?
Look here IBE, it only shows on the original post.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9215.msg1316100#msg1316100
Hey tm I'm confused on this one also. Where can you see someone's eyes on this picture??
The eyes are not on the picture with the water...they are in an additional picture I attached in my original post where I responded to the picture with the water. You can only see the additional picture that I posted in that post. It doesn't carry over to further responses.
If you click on the link I posted for IBE...and wait just a second or two for it to load, you should see the picture of the girl I mentioned.
Hope that helps!
Ok I see it now. I had to be logged in to see it for some odd reason. I guess I better get out of the rafters more often huh. Lol Thanks tm.
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YW anyunym, and yes...you can only see attachments if you're logged in.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: texasmom on March 17, 2011, 02:47:50 PM
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unym, and yes...you can only see attachments if you're logged in.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
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Quote from: Kermit on March 15, 2011, 02:58:05 PM
Freebirds individual watched Joran logging in at Freebirds and at SM.
Creature of habit.
Domain Name asianet.co.th ? (Thailand)
IP Address 61.90.249.# (Rangsit University)
ISP True Internet Co.
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One day after we did the Switched cars story:
Reply #51 on: July 10, 2008, 09:49:25 AM
Here is the latest from Natalee's Freebirds:
Sanitizing the Vehicle ~ Too Little Too Late, Or Bait and Switch?
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=615.40
at ScardMonkeys.net reading that document
ON
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AND
Bangkok watching Scared Monkeys closely today !!
Middle of the night in Bangkok
Jul 17, 2008 11:19:38 am ** Bangkok
IP Address 61.90.224.#
July 21, 2008
IP Address 124.121.141
Jul 22 2008 11:21:57 am ** Bangkok
IP Address 61.90.224.#
thread about body in bag p. 35
July 23, 2008 8:54:09 am ** Bangkok
IP Address 61.90.224.#
Jul 24 2008 1:02:59 pm ** Bangkok
PI Address 125.25.29.
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he is a creature of habit. always shows up during the same 2 hour time period.
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ISP True Internet Co.
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Here is the page he got to SM from, it's on a Thai website.....
What goes around comes around …
Joran Van der Sloot may have found a way to con his way out of a crime in Aruba with a Joran_vander_SlootHellcomplicit, inept and corrupt system in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway; however, he may have bitten off more than even he can get away with in Bangkok, Thailand.Peter R. de Vries, Dutch crime reporter, showed images Sunday night on his TV show of Joran Van der Sloot allegedly recruiting Thai girls to work in the sex industry in Europe. It appears that Judicial authorities in Thailand have requested copies of the images of Joran Van der Sloot.
ตามไปดูฉบับเต็มได้ค่ะ (ต้องขอโทษด้วยวีดีโอเป็นภาษาดัตช์นะคะ)
http://scaredmonkeys.com/category/joran-van-der-sloot/
And lookie who was back:
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ISP True Internet Co.
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City : Bangkok
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In this post that kermit did, I'm guessing that Joran was looking at the body in a bag thread at one point. I wonder what was so interesting to him about that?? Anyone have any ideas?
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Tamikosmom
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
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Chilean Police Detain Van der Sloot in Peru Murder
Published June 03, 2010
Chilean police have detained Joran van der Sloot, the longtime suspect in the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, as the chief suspect in the murder of a Peruvian woman who was found dead in his hotel room in Lima.
<snipped>
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/02/report-natalee-holloway-suspect-sought-murder-peru/
If Joran was logged into this site while he was eluding capture for the the murder of Stephany Flores ... it makes sense to conclude that SM is the source of the most recent updates regarding the happenings encompassing those involved in the Natalee Holloway case.
Klaas ... is this FP material?
Janet
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
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Hi MuffyBee
I see ya in the rafters.
You have been very quiet lately. I hope all is well. Am I keeping you too busy delete my messed up posts in the Hailey Dunn thread?
Have a good day.
Janet
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on March 17, 2011, 03:08:48 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on March 15, 2011, 03:53:28 PM
Quote from: Kermit on March 15, 2011, 03:15:54 PM
Domain Name vtr.net ? (Network)
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Chilean Police Detain Van der Sloot in Peru Murder
Published June 03, 2010
Chilean police have detained Joran van der Sloot, the longtime suspect in the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, as the chief suspect in the murder of a Peruvian woman who was found dead in his hotel room in Lima.
<snipped>
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/02/report-natalee-holloway-suspect-sought-murder-peru/
If Joran was logged into this site while he was eluding capture for the the murder of Stephany Flores ... it makes sense to conclude that SM is the source of the most recent updates regarding the happenings encompassing those involved in the Natalee Holloway case.
Klaas ... is this FP material?
Janet
Yes I'll bring it to Red's attention
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
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http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/29077-a-instala-conseho-nacional-di-droga.html
Papiamentu translation:
owing to instala conseho nacional of drugs
thursday, 17 march 2011 19:04
"mi is much contento self cu we can owing to succeed arrive at the conseho here. my know cu is much time, energy y attempt have hinca here in, but i am assure cu you rol will is of great importancia in the struggle for prevencion of droga", so minister dr. richard visser of salubridad publico y sport owing to give of conoce. the mandatario owing to instala the "nationale drugs raad" in sitting-room of conseho of minister. in the conseho here have departamentonan of gobierno, fundacionnan y sector priva. all is work for her same aim but for much year all owing to work near of another. now, cu instalacion of the conseho nacional of drugs, all the instancianan here will work together for succeed conscientisa more person on prevencion of usage of drugs.
john meryweather owing to stay apunta because; chairman of conseho nacional of drugs.
::snipping2::
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
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I'd never seen this one...
http://beeldbank.nationaalarchief.nl/nl/afbeeldingen/indeling/detail/start/52/trefwoord/Vervaardiger/Anefo%20%3A%3A%20Molendijk%2C%20Bart/trefwoord/Geografisch_trefwoord/Noord~Holland
Prime Minister Plenipotentiary of Aruba, John Merry Weather at Schiphol
Collection Photo Collection Anefo
Description Prime Minister Plenipotentiary of Aruba, John Merry Weather at Schiphol
Date
January 23, 1986
Keywords ministers, portraits, Merry Weather, John
Access number access look 2.24.01.01 »
Location Schiphol, Noord-Holland
Photographer Anefo / Molendijk, Bart
Component Number 933-5483
Material type miniature negative strips
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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THE SPEECH
CNN LIVE TODAY
Missing in Aruba
Aired July 5, 2005 - 10:00 ET
BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY’S MOTHER: It is now that I ask the world to help me. Two suspects were released yesterday who were involved in a violent crime against my daughter. These criminals are not only allowed to walk freely among the tourists and citizens of Aruba, but there are no limits where they may choose to travel.
I am asking all mothers and fathers and all nations to hear my plea. I implore you, do not allow these two suspects, the Kalpoe brothers, to enter your country until this case is solved. Do not allow these criminals to walk among your citizens. Help me by not allowing these two to get away with this crime.
It is my greatest fear today that the Kalpoe brothers will leave Aruba. I am asking the Aruban officials to notify the United States State Department in the event these suspects try to leave this island. I am asking all nations not to offer them a safe haven. I am asking this in the name of my beautiful, intelligent and outstanding daughter who I haven’t seen for 36 days and for whom I will continue to search until I find her.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/05/lt.03.html
THE FALLOUT
Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 157/158
: No one is breathing. Or Moving. Reporters and camera people are crying. The media hve been here more than a month, and they’ve seen firsthand what we’ve experienced. They are moved by this plea. But some of the Arubans are not. Calling their local sons “criminals” offends them. Having just heard the prosecuting attorney tell us at least one of the Kalpoes could be involved in whatever happened to my daughter. I felt the term seemed appropriate. But it led to an abrupt change in the tide of support.
… Not long after the “criminals speech,” some Arubans back off their prayer vigils for Natalee. A few protest in the streets against the barage of negative media. We’ve worn out our welcome at the Holiday Inn. And they let us know they’ve had it. The Aruban Tourism Authority (ATA), the Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association (AHATA), the Aruba Trade and Industry Association and a scattering of island officials establish the Strategic Communications Task Force to combat the negative media. And to combat us.
Some Arubans angry at Holloway’s mom
Calling brothers ‘criminals’ elicits resentment, statement from lawyer
updated 6:56 p.m. PT, Wed., July. 6, 2005
ORANJESTAD, Aruba - A latent but growing resentment here became evident for the first time when more than 200 people, some wrapped in Aruban flags, said they were incensed by statements made by the mother of missing American teen Natalee Holloway.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8484217
THE APOLOGY
Missing teen's mom apologizes for comments
Statements 'fueled by despair'
Friday, July 8, 2005; Posted: 6:41 p.m. EDT (22:41 GMT)
ORANJESTAD, Aruba (CNN) — The mother of Natalee Holloway apologized Friday for saying two released suspects were involved in her daughter’s disappearance.
“The statements I made on July 5th were fueled by despair and frustration because of still not knowing where my daughter is,” Beth Holloway Twitty said in a statement to the media. “I think everyone, everyone can sympathize with that.”
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/08/missing.aruba/index.html
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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JOHN MERRYWEATHER
'Scarborough Country' for July 6
updated 7/7/2005 11:11:45 AM ET
<snipped>
JOE SCARBOROUGH, HOST: Mr. Merryweather, thank you so much for being with us tonight. Tell us, why were you involved in that protest? What do you think that Natalee's mother did wrong?
JOHN MERRYWEATHER, FORMER ARUBA DIPLOMAT: Well, first—no, no, first of all, I'd like to answer why I was at the—not protest. It was a gathering in support of our justice system. It was not a protest. It never started out as a protest either. I would like that to be very, very clear.
When I was there, I hadn't heard what the comments of Natalee's mother either of the day. I was asked that after I was there. I went there. I was not part of the organization, but I went there in support of our justice system.
(CROSSTALK)
SCARBOROUGH: What did she say that was wrong? What did Natalee's mother say that was...
(CROSSTALK)
SCARBOROUGH: No, what did Natalee's mother say that offended so many people in Aruba?
MERRYWEATHER: Well, you know, it—it—it offended me, also. You cannot—these two boys, I don't know them. I don't know the parents. I don't know anyone involved in this personally.
But our justice system, as yours in the states, you are innocent until proven guilty. This system of ours, whether you agree with it or not, whether you understand it or not, allows these people to be free at this moment, but they are not free of charges. They have not been exonerated from this case.
They have not been found innocent. They are witnesses. And they can be called upon at any time.
(CROSSTALK)
SCARBOROUGH: OK, Mr. Merryweather, that is fair enough. I mean, that is a fair enough point. You're innocent until proven guilty.
Can you understand, though...
MERRYWEATHER: Yes.
SCARBOROUGH: ... why Natalee's mother and why a lot of Americans are upset by the fact that the three key suspects, the last people seen alive with Natalee, they were released for 11 days, allowed to get the stories straight, allowed to clean up the car, allowed to clean up their homes, and then these two Kalpoe boys that were released why, they lied to the police. They changed tear stories two or three times.
MERRYWEATHER: Yes.
SCARBOROUGH: And now they are walking the island. Can you not understand why some Americans are scratching their heads, saying what in the heck is going on in Aruba?
MERRYWEATHER: You know, first of all, this is not the United States. This—we are governed here also by Dutch law, Aruban law that is years and years older than the United States. And the Dutch law has proven itself over the years.
It is just the law of the land that we all have to abide by. I sympathize very, very much with Natalee's parents and family. We here in Aruba, I personally, my family, if we could go out and we could find the solution to this tonight, we would do it, because it is not only having an effect on them. It's having an effect on the whole community.
This is a small island and everybody is involved here and everybody is just as frustrated in another way maybe. But we want also—we want to have closure. And we would rather have closure that Natalee be found alive safe and well and go back to the states, but, in any event, closure, because this is disrupting the island totally.
(CROSSTALK)
SCARBOROUGH: I'm sure it is, Mr. Merryweather.
One final question. Maybe you can educate it, because you say Dutch law is older than American law.
MERRYWEATHER: That's right.
SCARBOROUGH: So, maybe you can educate us and help us understand why you would have the three key suspects, the three guys last seen with Natalee Holloway the night she disappeared, walk the island free for 11 days.
Explain how the maturity of Dutch law allows that to happen in a way that we Americans with our—gee, it's only 220 years old—and the American legal system doesn't understand it?
MERRYWEATHER: Well, I didn't mean that as an insult either or a gibe.
(CROSSTALK)
SCARBOROUGH: No, no, no. I am just trying to figure out, though, why do you let them walk for 11 days?
(CROSSTALK)
MERRYWEATHER: That—only the people involved in the investigation and, in accordance with the , can tell you, they have to present evidence to the courts to be held to begin with.
And each time, they have an extension. And at a certain moment, if there is no more evidence, no more new evidence to hold them, they have to be let free until such time—when I say let free, they are not free of the case. They are not free of the case.
SCARBOROUGH: Right.
MERRYWEATHER: They are still part of the case.
(CROSSTALK)
SCARBOROUGH: They are still possible suspects, what you are saying, but they still may—they may be suspects, even though they are walking.
(CROSSTALK)
MERRYWEATHER: Yes.
Look, even if—there is an appeal. The—the—the—the Justice Department appeals them walking free. This now comes in front of three judges. And I understand it may be as soon as Friday.
(CROSSTALK)
SCARBOROUGH: All right, thank you so much, Mr. Merryweather. We greatly appreciate it.
(CROSSTALK)
SCARBOROUGH: If the three judges find there's justification, they walk or they may go back in.
MERRYWEATHER: If the three judges find justification, they will go right straight back to jail.
SCARBOROUGH: All right, thank you so much, Mr. Merryweather. We know you live on a great island. Everybody has called Aruba the happy island. I have got friends that have visited there, say it is very safe. It's a wonderful place. That is why I'm so hurt and why a lot of Americans are hurt that we don't think we are getting the answers that we deserve.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8498049/
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Aruba Esso news (archives)
This was a newspaper published by the Lago Oil & Transport Co.
http://ufdc.ufl.edu/CA03400001/00203/allvolumes
John Merryweather is in this issue from April 1969.
http://ufdc.ufl.edu/CA03400001/00769/4j
http://ufdc.ufl.edu/CA03400001/00769/5j
Pages 4, 5, and the article concludes on page 6
There's probably a lot of interesting things to be found in the other issues. JMO
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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http://ufdc.ufl.edu/CA03400001/00205/10j
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: CBB on March 17, 2011, 12:33:45 AM
Quote from: texasmom on March 16, 2011, 02:03:53 PM
http://amigoenieuws.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4797:veterinaire-dienst-waarschuwt-voor-uitbraak-schroefworm&catid=151:artikel-headline-aruba&Itemid=200
Google translation:
Veterinary Service warns of screw worm outbreak
Wednesday, 16 March 2011 5:25 p.m.
ORANGE CITY - In a joint press conference with Department of Health, the Veterinary Service has warned of an outbreak of the worm screw. There are now eight confirmed cases. The larvae of this fly by eating the tissue of the body back and can cause a large wound. Infection is very dangerous for animals but can also pose a risk to humans.
The past two to three weeks, twenty cases of screw worm in animals reported to the Veterinary Department, eight confirmed. This says Pieter Barendsen veterinarian of the Veterinary Service. How the worm has come to Aruba is not known. Initially thought to the import of infected animals from South America, where the worm appears. Because there is no import of sheep and goats has been in the past year is suspected that the worm through hay and agricultural equipment has entered our country.
The screw worm can also infect humans. This happens because the flies lay eggs in wounds and develop into larvae. "Especially for people who are sick and bedridden elderly like the worm is a threat. It is important that people be careful to check for infections and wounds, "said Barendsen. "In Aruba has never been a case of the screw worm in humans have been
reported
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Screw Worm On Aruba???? Joran had it! I know he did because I saw that nekky picture of him!
CBB!!! I can't believe you said that!
Worms are much bigger and healthier looking.
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 12:44:38 AM
JOHN MERRYWEATHER
'Scarborough Country' for July 6
updated 7/7/2005 11:11:45 AM ET
<snipped>
JOE SCARBOROUGH, HOST: Mr. Merryweather, thank you so much for being with us tonight. Tell us, why were you involved in that protest? What do you think that Natalee's mother did wrong?
JOHN MERRYWEATHER, FORMER ARUBA DIPLOMAT: Well, first—no, no, first of all, I'd like to answer why I was at the—not protest. It was a gathering in support of our justice system. It was not a protest. It never started out as a protest either. I would like that to be very, very clear.
When I was there, I hadn't heard what the comments of Natalee's mother either of the day. I was asked that after I was there. I went there. I was not part of the organization, but I went there in support of our justice system.
(CROSSTALK)
SCARBOROUGH: What did she say that was wrong? What did Natalee's mother say that was...
(CROSSTALK)
SCARBOROUGH: No, what did Natalee's mother say that offended so many people in Aruba?
MERRYWEATHER: Well, you know, it—it—it offended me, also. You cannot—these two boys, I don't know them. I don't know the parents. I don't know anyone involved in this personally.
But our justice system, as yours in the states, you are innocent until proven guilty. This system of ours, whether you agree with it or not, whether you understand it or not, allows these people to be free at this moment, but they are not free of charges. They have not been exonerated from this case.
They have not been found innocent. They are witnesses. And they can be called upon at any time.
(CROSSTALK)
SCARBOROUGH: OK, Mr. Merryweather, that is fair enough. I mean, that is a fair enough point. You're innocent until proven guilty.
Can you understand, though...
MERRYWEATHER: Yes.
SCARBOROUGH: ... why Natalee's mother and why a lot of Americans are upset by the fact that the three key suspects,
the last people seen alive with Natalee
, they were released for 11 days, allowed to get the stories straight, allowed to clean up the car, allowed to clean up their homes, and then these two Kalpoe boys that were released why, they lied to the police. They changed tear stories two or three times.
MERRYWEATHER: Yes.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8498049/
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Justice for Natalee and Stephany!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: texasmom on March 17, 2011, 11:33:11 PM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/29077-a-instala-conseho-nacional-di-droga.html
Papiamentu translation:
owing to instala conseho nacional of drugs
thursday, 17 march 2011 19:04
"mi is much contento self cu we can owing to succeed arrive at the conseho here. my know cu is much time, energy y attempt have hinca here in, but i am assure cu you rol will is of great importancia in the struggle for prevencion of droga", so minister dr. richard visser of salubridad publico y sport owing to give of conoce. the mandatario owing to instala the "nationale drugs raad" in sitting-room of conseho of minister. in the conseho here have departamentonan of gobierno, fundacionnan y sector priva. all is work for her same aim but for much year all owing to work near of another. now, cu instalacion of the conseho nacional of drugs, all the instancianan here will work together for succeed conscientisa more person on prevencion of usage of drugs.
john meryweather owing to stay apunta because; chairman of conseho nacional of drugs.
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The Amigoe ran an article in yesterday's edition that said that John Merryweather is the President of the new National Drug Council. To summarize...he, "which itself also say with a past addiction" gave an emotional speech indicating that input from the field is sorely needed. He encouraged the population and the press to bring understanding for addicts.
http://www.amigoenieuws.com/PDF%20amigoearu/17-03-2011a.pdf
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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http://beinglatino.wordpress.com/2011/03/18/horrid-defense-for-a-murder-in-peru/
Horrid defense for a murder in Peru
by Eric Jude Cortes
There are few reasons for killing another human being. Self defense and military service might be just about the only legitimate reasons for permanently ending another human being’s presence on earth. As Joran van der Sloot is showing us in Peru, a new reason to justify killing might be that the person was upset. Van der Sloot’s pleading of temporary insanity in the murder of Stephany Flores is none other than the work of a rich foreigner looking to use his privileges to avoid facing justice.
::snipping2::
This is simply the case of a spoiled psychopathic child thinking that he is above the law. Wealthy foreigners often see the developing world as their play place and Van der Sloot is no different.
::snipping2::
In a perfect world, parasites like Joran van der Sloot would be locked up and never heard from again. It is the responsibility of the Peruvian justice system to ensure a fair trial, and to ensure that the victim is not forgotten. By giving Van der Sloot the maximum penalty allowable, and blocking any crafty legal maneuvering, Peru can demonstrate that like many other great nations, it doesn’t put justice up for sale.
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Quote from: SuzieQ on March 18, 2011, 08:14:35 PM
http://beinglatino.wordpress.com/2011/03/18/horrid-defense-for-a-murder-in-peru/
Horrid defense for a murder in Peru
by Eric Jude Cortes
There are few reasons for killing another human being. Self defense and military service might be just about the only legitimate reasons for permanently ending another human being’s presence on earth. As Joran van der Sloot is showing us in Peru, a new reason to justify killing might be that the person was upset. Van der Sloot’s pleading of temporary insanity in the murder of Stephany Flores is none other than the work of a rich foreigner looking to use his privileges to avoid facing justice.
::snipping2::
This is simply the case of a spoiled psychopathic child thinking that he is above the law. Wealthy foreigners often see the developing world as their play place and Van der Sloot is no different.
::snipping2::
In a perfect world, parasites like Joran van der Sloot would be locked up and never heard from again. It is the responsibility of the Peruvian justice system to ensure a fair trial, and to ensure that the victim is not forgotten. By giving Van der Sloot the maximum penalty allowable, and blocking any crafty legal maneuvering, Peru can demonstrate that like many other great nations, it doesn’t put justice up for sale.
Ricardo Flores
'Joran lives like a king in jail.'
'It is shameful what happens in prisons. I think the INPE has to give the same treatment to all criminals.'
November 10, 2010
http://www.generaccion.com/noticia/83737/familia-flores-aseguran-que-joran-van-der-sloot-vive-como-rey
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Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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