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« Reply #940 on: March 20, 2011, 12:45:02 AM »

November 19, 2008:

BETH HOLLOWAY: And Greta, I was just wanting to say that, you know, like I said, it's been a long time, but it's never too late for justice. And I'd be good with a "Midnight Express" prison anywhere for Joran.


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« Reply #941 on: March 20, 2011, 12:47:07 AM »


Thanks Klaas!   

I asked DH if this was the one he saw and he said no, so there must be something in one of the other tabloids too.
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"We won't give up on you, Natalee.  You didn't give up on us, and we will continue with the investigation until we have all of the answers to your disappearance.  God be with you my Natalee!" Dave Holloway ARUBA
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« Reply #942 on: March 20, 2011, 12:55:33 AM »

Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway

In Natalee's Room

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  It's early morning, and the house is quiet.  I'm still lying in bed, eyes closed.  I don't want to open them, because when I do, I'll have to face the day I've dreaded the most for the past twenty months.  Today I have to pack up Natalee's things for the last time.  Today I will have to say the final good-bye.  And I'm not ready.

Eyes still closed, I hear an occasional car pass in front of the house.  Another one stops across the street, and I hear the car door open, letting music and cheerful muffled voices escape for a moment.  Then close again.  The stillness in the house is interrupted by the harmonious tapping of little paws as Macy the dog and Carl the cat move across the hardwood floors.  Stopping for a moment.  Then tapping again.  The cold morning brings the sounds of life's activities as people step into another day of their routines.

Maybe if I don't open my eyes this day will just pass and I won't have to face what I have to do.  The painful inevitable chore that has been looming over me since my beautiful daughter, Natalee disappeared on the last night of her senior high school trip to Aruba.  The day has come to take her room apart and box it up.  I have to go through her belongings, which have remained untouched since she left home on May 26, 2005.  The movers will be here day after tomorrow.

Nothing of my life before Natalee disappeared in Aruba has remained intact.  Not my career.  Not my home.  Not my marriage.  My husband, Jug, and I are divorcing after six years.  My son, Natalee's younger brother, Matt, and I are moving in two days.  I have a lot to do.

I manage to swing my legs off the bed and sit up.  Reluctantly, I open my eyes and sit on the edge for a few moments.  I feel like concrete.  Heavy.  Very heavy.  Finally I stand up and slowly walk a half dozen steps or so down the short hall and turn right at Natalee's bedroom doorway ...

 

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LOVING NATALEE
A MOTHER'S TESTAMENT OF HOPE AND FAITH
By Beth Holloway
ISBN: 9780061452277
ISBN10: 0061452270
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On Sale: 10/2/2007
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« Reply #943 on: March 20, 2011, 12:57:11 AM »

Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway

In Natalee's Room

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  I'm glad I'm alone to recount the events that have brought me to this place on this morning, preparing to pack up and leave this house and Mountain Brook. Standing in the doorway of Natalee's room, I unwillingly step inside to the center of it, look around slowly, take it all in. In what feels like slow motion, I bend my knees until they touch the floor, rest my hands on the light cream-colored rug in front of me, and roll over onto my right side. Curling up in a fetal position, my head tucked down, arms crossing over my chest, I close my eyes again. And the cry I have fought off for almost two years finally comes. The final good-bye cry. And it comes hard. From somewhere deep, deep inside me. And it feels as if it will never stop. As if the pain can never be contained again.

 

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LOVING NATALEE
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« Reply #944 on: March 20, 2011, 03:22:27 AM »





Justice for Natalee and Stephany!


 

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« Reply #945 on: March 20, 2011, 12:35:52 PM »

http://www.boletinextra.com/index.php/local-news/6845-turista-femenino-cu-kap-grandi-na-cabes-transporta-cu-urgencia-pa-miami.html

Papiamentu translation:

tourist female cu chop big at cabes transporta cu urgencia for miami

thursday, 17 march 2011 16:09 0 comments

diaranzon in oranan of night some colaborador owing to informa we table of redaccion of one caso enough earnest cu owing to sosode at one hotel in area of eagle beach caminda one tourist stay seriamente injury. in this we owing to busca the informenan y owing to compronde cu nu tourist female of edad have to owing to slip y cay strike his cabes enough good open this. caminda owing to ricibi one chop enough big y was bleed severamente. in this ambulancenan owing to present at the hotel y owing to atende the tourist here tanto owing to struggle cune y owing to lose enough blood end y was for of tino owing to transporte cu urgencia for hospital for tratamento of urgencia. 

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tourist here y cu air ambulance owing to transporte cu urgencia for miami for tratamento, of cual if his situation was uno critico.
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"We won't give up on you, Natalee.  You didn't give up on us, and we will continue with the investigation until we have all of the answers to your disappearance.  God be with you my Natalee!" Dave Holloway ARUBA
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« Reply #946 on: March 20, 2011, 01:32:32 PM »

http://nl-nl.facebook.com/people/Gerard-Geerman/100002083746271?sk=wall

Gerard Geerman

Lives in Helmond
Married to Rachel Geerman
From Oranjestad, Aruba
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« Reply #947 on: March 20, 2011, 02:14:43 PM »

http://nl-nl.facebook.com/people/Gerard-Geerman/100002083746271?sk=wall

Gerard Geerman

Lives in Helmond
Married to Rachel Geerman
From Oranjestad, Aruba

That's a different guy.  Gerardo vs. Gerard
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« Reply #948 on: March 20, 2011, 02:17:44 PM »

FLASHBACK


1.  Are addresses Siribana 6 and Shiribana 6 the same location?

2.  Is there a relationship/connection between Gerardo Geerman and Jenny Emanual Geerman, the witness?

3.  When does the Caps/Witness connection take place.  In Caps letter to Dave Holloway on January 30, 2008 the witness was not an issue in regards to the pond distraction.  He claims Shango was the source.

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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #832 4/22/10 -
Reply #736 on: May 17, 2010, 04:14:27 PM


From: capslockwizard@hotmail.com
To: daveholloway@xxxxxx
Subject: RE: Nathalee possible buried place
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:18:15 -0500

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Hi Dave,
 
To get Natalee Body you have to come to Aruba and arrange for some large Pumps that can drain a small pond. It has an odd shape.
 
I have decipher the Shango Riddle and the outcome of the Riddle points out the cover-up and also where the body was deposit in Aruba.

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About Me:
Name: Rudolf H. Vrolijk
Address: Shiribana 6, Aruba
Email: Vrolijkr@hotmail.com
Email: capslockwizard@hotmail.com
Phone: 297-746-7000

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7363.720


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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #832 4/22/10 -
Reply #700 on: May 17, 2010, 01:40:55 AM


Geerman Gerardo       
Siribana 6
585-3063

http://www.arubayp.com/whitesearch.html?phone=&name=geerman&page=7

Webb Lorenzo D       
Shiribana 6
588-99xx
http://www.arubayp.com/whitesearch.html?phone=&name=Webb&page=2

CAPS
Address: Shiribana 6, Aruba
Phone: 297-746-7xxx

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7363.msg1134683#msg1134683


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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #829 2/14/10 -
Reply #539 on: February 16, 2010, 07:51:52 PM


Lie detector test   - Jenny Geerman
http://stephww.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/lie-detector.pdf

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7018.msg1076042#msg1076042


REPORT OF POLYGRAPH EXAMINATION

EXAMINEE:  Jenny Emanual German

Experpt:


Mr. Geerman appears alert, on-time and properly orientated for his examination.  He resides at Palm Beach #166-B, Noord, Aruba.

http://stephww.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/lie-detector.pdf



Klaas

Could you please post Jenny Geerman's polygraph.

DIL has it saved in her files but I do not have a clue how to get it from there to here.

Thanks

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« Reply #949 on: March 20, 2011, 02:22:33 PM »

I'll look for it
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« Reply #950 on: March 20, 2011, 02:25:43 PM »

Posted in 2010


From 2010 - exactly 1 year ago





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« Reply #951 on: March 20, 2011, 02:26:35 PM »

http://nl-nl.facebook.com/people/Gerard-Geerman/100002083746271?sk=wall

Gerard Geerman

Lives in Helmond
Married to Rachel Geerman
From Oranjestad, Aruba

That's a different guy.  Gerardo vs. Gerard

I've been looking at both because of this:


http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/5493-otro-morto-den-trafico-diadomingo-marduga.html

 

Scirbi pa Gerard (gege), July 21, 2008  
Condolencia na famia Leon i hopi forza riba e dianan di trizteza na aki i su colega di WEB Aruba NV.

Colega di WEB.
Gerardo Geerman.
Electro-Afdeling.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Gerard-Geerman/100002083746271?sk=wall

My thought was that this one could possibly be a son or other relative of the one I posted about last night.  He looks too young imo to possibly be the one that started working at Lago in 1982.

jmo

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« Reply #952 on: March 20, 2011, 02:29:55 PM »

TM- good poiint
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« Reply #953 on: March 20, 2011, 02:59:21 PM »

Thanks Klaas

Janet
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« Reply #954 on: March 20, 2011, 03:07:33 PM »

TM- good poiint

Thanks Klaas   

Found another comment at 24ora by "gege"

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/19248-minister-arthur-dowers-ta-conciente-cu-e-forma-cu-gobierno-ta-atendiendo-criminalidad-lo-tin-su-resultadonan.html

Scirbi pa gege, July 01, 2010   
COMBATI CRIMINALIDAD????? dia pa dia mas atracaco,mas ladronicia,jen di desgracia ta pasa riba e lugar aki. di dia cu e partido aki a sinta ta jen di cos malo so a pasa na aruba. jen di morto cruel den traffico. anto e minister arogante aki ta sinta biS**ta scol cu su actitud ala chavez!!! mihor e busca un manera di baha na awa!! un minister mediocre!! sirbi pa nada

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scirbi for gege, july 01, 2010
combati criminalidad????? day for day more atracaco,mas ladronicia,jen of desgracia is happen on the lugar here. of day cu the faction here owing to sit is jen of cos bad only owing to happen at aruba. jen of dead cruel in traffico. then the minister arrogant here is sit bis**ta scol cu his actitud wing chavez!!! mihor the busca one as of descend at water!! one minister mediocre!! serve for nothing come across
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"We won't give up on you, Natalee.  You didn't give up on us, and we will continue with the investigation until we have all of the answers to your disappearance.  God be with you my Natalee!" Dave Holloway ARUBA
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« Reply #955 on: March 20, 2011, 04:35:32 PM »

TM- good poiint

Thanks Klaas   

Found another comment at 24ora by "gege"

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/19248-minister-arthur-dowers-ta-conciente-cu-e-forma-cu-gobierno-ta-atendiendo-criminalidad-lo-tin-su-resultadonan.html

Scirbi pa gege, July 01, 2010   
COMBATI CRIMINALIDAD????? dia pa dia mas atracaco,mas ladronicia,jen di desgracia ta pasa riba e lugar aki. di dia cu e partido aki a sinta ta jen di cos malo so a pasa na aruba. jen di morto cruel den traffico. anto e minister arogante aki ta sinta biS**ta scol cu su actitud ala chavez!!! mihor e busca un manera di baha na awa!! un minister mediocre!! sirbi pa nada

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scirbi for gege, july 01, 2010
combati criminalidad????? day for day more atracaco,mas ladronicia,jen of desgracia is happen on the lugar here. of day cu the faction here owing to sit is jen of cos bad only owing to happen at aruba. jen of dead cruel in traffico. then the minister arrogant here is sit bis**ta scol cu his actitud wing chavez!!! mihor the busca one as of descend at water!! one minister mediocre!! serve for nothing come across

Another:


http://www.24ora.com/politica-mainmenu-18/22985-declaracion-cas-di-aruba.html

...
Scirbi pa gege, October 14, 2010
esaki si ta un abuso!!! esta un sinberguensa e cos aki ta!!!! no por ta asina cu abath ta huur e cas pa mas cu 12mil anto tin pobresa na aruba! no por sigui asina!!! e inhusticia aki mester caba!! esaki ta un gabinete di ladron i sinberguenseria!!! no por no por!!

And another:

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/6222-persona-ta-ricibi-bat-den-cabes.html

Scirbi pa gege, September 29, 2008
e luga ey no ta koi bai mas mi bro ta bai para un pelea pa co kda rustig awo e mes ta man corta anto bn corta
pa colmo nan ta bisa cu ta e a bati elton siendo un ta berdad paso e ta bro di elton e luga ey gwn weg a bira bagamunderia guys nan boso bai rustig e mundo ki a kambia e no ta mane antes mas noh problma tin tur kaminda wel wel lemai boso sali sve
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« Reply #956 on: March 20, 2011, 04:59:44 PM »

I was hunting around for something else but found this old post from June 11, 2005:

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/cnncom_-_aruba_police_official_suspect_confesses_to_killing_missing_teen_-_jun_11_2005/

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« Reply #958 on: March 20, 2011, 05:23:31 PM »

I was hunting around for something else but found this old post from June 11, 2005:

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/cnncom_-_aruba_police_official_suspect_confesses_to_killing_missing_teen_-_jun_11_2005/



The Confession - June 10, 2005

Reports Conflict in Case of Missing Ala. Teen
Saturday, June 11, 2005


David Cruz, a spokesman for the Aruban Minister of Justice (search) told FOX News Natalee Holloway (search), who was on vacation with friends with a graduation trip when she disappeared, was confirmed dead and that authorities knew the location of her body.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159252,00.html


Frustration in Aruba
June 15, 2005


RICK LEVENTHAL: We reconfirmed the information with Croues before going on-air with it.
 
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159664,00.html
 

ORANJESTAD, Aruba, June 12, 2005
Aruba Case Appears Stalled


Holloway's family rushed late Friday to an old stone lighthouse beside Arisha beach after Deputy Police Commissioner Gerold Dompig told The Associated Press that one of three young men in custody admitted that "something bad happened" to Holloway and was leading police to the scene of the alleged crime.
 
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/06/10/national/main700829.shtml


May 28, 2006
Holloway talks about Natalees missing year


DAVE HOLLOWAY: At some point into this investigation, as time goes on and you dont find her, you start realizing that things are not looking good. We got that confirmation pretty much from the FBI on June 10. They came to us and said the investigation appears to be heading toward a homicide case.

http://www.meridianstar.com/local/local_story_148205455.html


'Scarborough Country' for Oct. 24th
updated 10/25/2005 10:06:01 AM ET 2005-10-25T14:06:01


BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY:  And that was the day that the FBI came in, Doug Shipley (ph) came in and said that the way the interrogations are unfolding, theres a strong possibility that Natalee may not be alive. That was huge. That was the day thatI think, Joe, everyone buried Natalee that day, on June 10.

And then it justfrom there, the night went on. There were body sightings, countless. They were knocking on my door. They thought they found her. Oh, no, they didnt. It went on from 2:00 a.m. to 3:00 a.m. to 4:00 a.m. It was horrific.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9813596/


Confusion Reigns in Natalee Holloway Case
Friday June 10, 2005


Then Justice Minister Rudy Croes told reporters early Saturday morning that the rumor that one of the students had confessed was a lie, throwing the media on the island into confusion and prompting conflicting news alerts from the Caribbean. Croes emphatically denied that any confession had been made.

http://crime.about.com/b/2005/06/10/confusion-reigns-in-natalee-holloway-case.htm


Reports Conflict in Case of Missing Ala. Teen
Saturday, June 11, 2005


Cruz later retracted the statement, saying he was a victim of a "misinformation campaign."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159252,00.html
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Thank you Klaas!   an angelic monkey
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