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Tracygirl
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #42 2/07/11 -
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February 18, 2011, 03:46:43 PM »
54 cars? 490 people in 54 cars? I would guess that school busses brought many of the children?
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Quote from: Tracygirl on February 18, 2011, 03:46:43 PM
54 cars? 490 people in 54 cars? I would guess that school busses brought many of the children?
Hey TG!
Nope. I was just counting the adults on the "list". Of course I counted 1 car per couple. IIRC, there were 134 adult names on that list. I don't get the "54" cars.
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #42 2/07/11 -
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Quote from: sassifrass on February 18, 2011, 11:56:46 AM
Quote from: Puzzler on February 18, 2011, 11:44:35 AM
Looks like Stanton is set to produce a report on Kyron on February 24.
http://www.co.multnomah.or.us/cc/WeeklyAgendaPacket/R-01_BRIEF_Kyron%20Horman%20Case/APR_Kyron%20Horman%20Briefing.pdf
Isn't that what I just posted above?
Sassi - yes, it is. I just opened Kyron's thread and posted that information while it I was reading it. I came back later and saw that you posted it. Sorry.
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #42 2/07/11 -
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February 18, 2011, 07:50:06 PM »
Quote from: sassifrass on February 18, 2011, 05:45:52 PM
Quote from: Tracygirl on February 18, 2011, 03:46:43 PM
54 cars? 490 people in 54 cars? I would guess that school busses brought many of the children?
Hey TG!
Nope. I was just counting the adults on the "list". Of course I counted 1 car per couple. IIRC, there were 134 adult names on that list. I don't get the "54" cars.
The 54 cars seems out-of-joint with the number of adults. There would have been a number of adults that went "one to a car" (an example is Terri).
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #42 2/07/11 -
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February 18, 2011, 07:51:32 PM »
Quote from: Puzzler on February 18, 2011, 06:46:57 PM
Quote from: sassifrass on February 18, 2011, 11:56:46 AM
Quote from: Puzzler on February 18, 2011, 11:44:35 AM
Looks like Stanton is set to produce a report on Kyron on February 24.
http://www.co.multnomah.or.us/cc/WeeklyAgendaPacket/R-01_BRIEF_Kyron%20Horman%20Case/APR_Kyron%20Horman%20Briefing.pdf
Isn't that what I just posted above?
Sassi - yes, it is. I just opened Kyron's thread and posted that information while it I was reading it. I came back later and saw that you posted it. Sorry.
No worries. Klaas fixed it. It was double coverage!
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #42 2/07/11 -
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February 18, 2011, 07:55:34 PM »
Quote from: Puzzler on February 18, 2011, 07:50:06 PM
Quote from: sassifrass on February 18, 2011, 05:45:52 PM
Quote from: Tracygirl on February 18, 2011, 03:46:43 PM
54 cars? 490 people in 54 cars? I would guess that school busses brought many of the children?
Hey TG!
Nope. I was just counting the adults on the "list". Of course I counted 1 car per couple. IIRC, there were 134 adult names on that list. I don't get the "54" cars.
The 54 cars seems out-of-joint with the number of adults. There would have been a number of adults that went "one to a car" (an example is Terri).
I agree. I counted one per car, per family, from the list. It still adds up to approximately 162 cars (counting couples and family in one car).
It doesn't make sense.
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So, there were 29 teachers "on the list". If we take them off the total cars there, it will still be 133 cars.
That's 79 cars, not accounted for.
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #42 2/07/11 -
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February 18, 2011, 08:02:23 PM »
Quote from: sassifrass on February 18, 2011, 07:59:56 PM
So, there were 29 teachers "on the list". If we take them off the total cars there, it will still be 133 cars.
That's 79 cars, not accounted for.
This doesn't make sense. Who are they excluding, and why? ALL cars should be accounted for.
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #42 2/07/11 -
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February 18, 2011, 08:07:33 PM »
The way I read this, the identified all of the people, not all of the vehicles...just 54.
::snipping2::
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Sheriff-to-update-latest-on-Kyron-Horman-investigation-116491183.html
Detectives identified all 490 persons and identified 54 vehicles that were present at Skyline School on June 4th, 2010.
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February 18, 2011, 08:09:01 PM »
I don't think they are saying they have identified all of the cars, which is a little odd to me, since they think they've identified everyone who is present, why can't they identify these people's cars???
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sassifrass
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #42 2/07/11 -
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February 18, 2011, 08:11:34 PM »
Quote from: sassifrass on February 18, 2011, 07:59:56 PM
So, there were 29 teachers "on the list". If we take them off the total cars there, it will still be 133 cars.
That's 79 cars, not accounted for.
Just to be the Devils advocate; if there were 54 cars, do you mean to tell me that 79 of those, on the list, were bus drivers, groundskeepers, etc., on that day? I don't believe it. Even if there were, ANY outside visitor the vehicle should, and would, be stated as such. Their vehicles should be counted, IMO, BUT, I was counting the vehicles per the list.
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #42 2/07/11 -
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Quote from: monchichi on February 18, 2011, 08:09:01 PM
I don't think they are saying they have identified all of the cars, which is a little odd to me, since they think they've identified everyone who is present, why can't they identify these people's cars???
I don't agree. Why would they send their report 1/2 done? They stated a specific number of vehicles.
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #42 2/07/11 -
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Time to make dinner.
If some Monkey could make sense of this, I would be grateful. It doesn't make sense in my mathematical mind.
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #42 2/07/11 -
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February 18, 2011, 08:24:03 PM »
Quote from: sassifrass on February 18, 2011, 08:13:21 PM
Quote from: monchichi on February 18, 2011, 08:09:01 PM
I don't think they are saying they have identified all of the cars, which is a little odd to me, since they think they've identified everyone who is present, why can't they identify these people's cars???
I don't agree. Why would they send their report 1/2 done? They stated a specific number of vehicles.
Maybe I am being too precise but, it does not say "and
all
of the 54 vehicles present". The fact that they left out the "all" wrt the vehicles, leads me to think they do not believe there were only 54 vehicles present.
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I agree that 54 vehicles identified at this point can't possibly be enough for all of the people on their list. They are missing quite a few. I will never understand why they did not request a complete vehicle reconstruction the days after he went missing...ask everyone to come back to the school and park in the same place and tell exactly what time they came and left. For many months, I was imagining they had this big chart on the wall that had been filled in with all of the cars since sometime in June...that would have been the first thing to occur to me, anyway.
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #42 2/07/11 -
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February 18, 2011, 10:06:23 PM »
Quote from: monchichi on February 18, 2011, 08:24:03 PM
Quote from: sassifrass on February 18, 2011, 08:13:21 PM
Quote from: monchichi on February 18, 2011, 08:09:01 PM
I don't think they are saying they have identified all of the cars, which is a little odd to me, since they think they've identified everyone who is present, why can't they identify these people's cars???
I don't agree. Why would they send their report 1/2 done? They stated a specific number of vehicles.
Maybe I am being too precise but, it does not say "and
all
of the 54 vehicles present". The fact that they left out the "all" wrt the vehicles, leads me to think they do not believe there were only 54 vehicles present.
No, of course they didn't say "ALL" as far as the vehicles, but why would they leave out the remainder? They are presenting information to MCB. As I've stated before, why not have a complete list?
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #42 2/07/11 -
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Quote from: bebecat on February 18, 2011, 08:54:45 PM
I agree that 54 vehicles identified at this point can't possibly be enough for all of the people on their list. They are missing quite a few. I will never understand why they did not request a complete vehicle reconstruction the days after he went missing...ask everyone to come back to the school and park in the same place and tell exactly what time they came and left. For many months, I was imagining they had this big chart on the wall that had been filled in with all of the cars since sometime in June...that would have been the first thing to occur to me, anyway.
ITA, and a VERY good analysis of what SHOULD have been done. I too also imagined a chart, but maybe they did have it and are leaving some things out. I can't imagine leaving details out that are being presented to the county though. This just boggles my mind.
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #42 2/07/11 -
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This whole case is just mind-boggling and depressing...just watched the NG show on Susan Powell and it has been 14 months, LE "knows" who did it, but nothing...I do think he will be charged eventually, but I actually think they have a better case against JP than LE has against TH or anyone in Kyron's case. The fact that they are still talking up those thick binders and thousands of tips makes me really nervous and sad.
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i think the count of 54 cars, is about right
total persons at skyline 6/4/2010=490
staff and students=315,could be off by 15 + -, i also think the majority of the students
took the bus
so, 490-315=175 guests
going with 2 to a car @ 54 cars =108
175-108=67, 2 people to a ride,unlikely some were Gparent,and students and
others walkers,live close by
taking the 67,and putting 1/2 of the 67 in 1/2 the cars leaves, about 2.5 people
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #42 2/07/11 -
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Quote from: cw618 on February 19, 2011, 02:07:25 AM
i think the count of 54 cars, is about right
total persons at skyline 6/4/2010=490
staff and students=315,could be off by 15 + -, i also think the majority of the students
took the bus
so, 490-315=175 guests
going with 2 to a car @ 54 cars =108
175-108=67, 2 people to a ride,unlikely some were Gparent,and students and
others walkers,live close by
taking the 67,and putting 1/2 of the 67 in 1/2 the cars leaves, about 2.5 people
i forgot to say i think the le, are only counting the guests cars, prob bc everyone else, was accounted for,
for the whole day,staff and students
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