Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #42 2/07/11 - 5/23/11

[Puzzler]

I am not sure if there is more to this video than the one above. All I can say is Goooooooooo Desiree. We love you, we support you and we are so proud of you!

http://www.katu.com/home/video/116678914.html

Everyone who hasn't watched this video of Desiree's entire presser in Roseburg (before I had only heard snippets here and there), might find this to be of interest.

Desiree says at one point that LE is searching an 11-acre area East of Skyline School.

She says that LE has evidence that Terri was there.

She also says that Terri put everything in writing.

[Gypsy DD]

I am not sure if there is more to this video than the one above. All I can say is Goooooooooo Desiree. We love you, we support you and we are so proud of you!

http://www.katu.com/home/video/116678914.html

Thank you Sebastian for the link to the above video of Desiree's press conference.

It really sounds as though per Desiree that LE has evidence against Terri...she put everything in writing.

Tick Tock Terri, Tick Tock.

[Puzzler]

Post from BOC:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/01/30/fugitive-cop-shooter-david-durhams-house-located-in-new-kyron-horman-search-grid/

enumclawrose says:
February 23, 2011 at 4:05 am
Puzzled, Thanks for articulating this so well. I know we all wish this was not the case, but at least we know where we are at. This is an important post. IMO we should all read it again.

9.puzzled says:
February 21, 2011 at 5:34 pm
It’s looking to me like … LE knows there was a male talking to Ky inside the school. LE knows Terri left the school without Ky. LE does not know how Ky left the school or who with. There is only a generic description of the male … height, weight, coloring, facial hair … but not enough of a facial recognition for a sketch.

If this is so … then LE is still guessing as to who Ky left with … just that they know he did not leave the building with TH when she left the building. LE does not know who Ky left the building with.

do I have this right ???

It is about as close as one can get, imo.
B

[no rose colored glasses]

Post from BOC:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/01/30/fugitive-cop-shooter-david-durhams-house-located-in-new-kyron-horman-search-grid/

enumclawrose says:
February 23, 2011 at 4:05 am
Puzzled, Thanks for articulating this so well. I know we all wish this was not the case, but at least we know where we are at. This is an important post. IMO we should all read it again.

9.puzzled says:
February 21, 2011 at 5:34 pm
It’s looking to me like … LE knows there was a male talking to Ky inside the school. LE knows Terri left the school without Ky. LE does not know how Ky left the school or who with. There is only a generic description of the male … height, weight, coloring, facial hair … but not enough of a facial recognition for a sketch.

If this is so … then LE is still guessing as to who Ky left with … just that they know he did not leave the building with TH when she left the building. LE does not know who Ky left the building with.

do I have this right ???

It is about as close as one can get, imo.
B

Wonder what the age of the male is? I would imagine that Kyron new the man, but then again, this man could have said something that was very interesting to him and he left with him to go see whatever this man said he had, etc. From my prospective with raising two girls is that no matter how many times we would tell them, don't run off towards the street when the ball goes over that way, don't wander at all from us in the store, don't do this and don't do that, there are just some kids that will do it anyway, it is the way they are. One of mine behaved and one had little interest in all the warnings 

[sassifrass]

If anyone is interested in watching the live Multnomah County board meeting on Thursday, which is when Staton will be there, you can watch it on the internet, at the below url. It runs from 9:30am - 12 noon. I'm not sure what time he is up.


http://www2.co.multnomah.or.us/cc/live_broadcast.shtml

Just a note: I believe you have to have Realplayer installed, which you can find here:

http://www.real.com/realplayer

Update: Sheriff Staton will be up first @ 9:30 am PST.

http://www.co.multnomah.or.us/cc/WeeklyAgendaPacket/022411_Agenda.pdf


REGULAR AGENDA
SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT – 9:30 am
R-1 Informational Board Briefing on the Kyron Horman Investigation Task Force. Presenters: Sheriff Dan Staton and Lieutenant Ned Walls. (15 min)

[no rose colored glasses]

From Blink On Crime   ::snipping2::     Jden says:
February 23, 2011 at 9:23 am

LE has witnesses that saw someone on the gravel access road in/around the Horman truck. (Kaine’s truck per DY)
LE has witnesses, children and adults, that (believe) they saw KyH in the school with an unidentified male.

Consider this (purely supposition):
If these are both true statements, then it is possible that TmH left the parking lot in someone else’s vehicle. The male who was witnessed inside the school with KyH was someone familiar to KyH, enough that KyH would follow instructions on how/when to exit the building, especially if he had been instructed to listen to that male earlier on by TmH. DY states that this person was “close to the family”.       Desiree states the man was close to the family?  If that were true, you would think the police would know who he is? 

[invision]

Maybe Desiree is trying to put the pressure on Terri now and this is a last push before an arrest is made.  She may think that once Terri is behind bars, she may never talk.  She may feel that she is more susceptible to "outside" pressure from the community and even her parents and may crack, whereas it may never happen while incarcerated.

[Gypsy DD]

I am still thinking about the little church across the street from the school where the pressers were often held.  That church is no longer a church, but open for social events, etc.

I swear I remember reading somewhere that the lady who operates the church said they had security cameras in place.  This was around the time the school got there cameras put in, over the summer.  My point is..it sounded as though they have had those cameras in place well before the school got theirs..as in we already have security cams.

Then think about where Terri's truck was supposed to be parked in the recreation photos..sort of along side the road, blocking the access road.  I keep thinking that the LE have a video of her truck parked there. They seem to be very concrete on the fact of where she was parked that morning.  This may be how they know rather not Kyron left the school with her.

What type of man would help Terri carry out this deed?  A pedo..  Could it be Terri hooked up with a pedo inorder to coax him to take Kyron?  Could she have set this whole thing up because she hated Kaine and Kyron both...MFH was not getting any takers..but a pedo would jump at the chance.  And a disappeared Kyron would settle her own problems with Kyron..and hurt Kaine immeasurably for the rest of his life.  Desiree said the writings she was shown Terri wrote of how much she hated both KH and Kyron.

[Curly]

I am not sure if there is more to this video than the one above. All I can say is Goooooooooo Desiree. We love you, we support you and we are so proud of you!

http://www.katu.com/home/video/116678914.html

Everyone who hasn't watched this video of Desiree's entire presser in Roseburg (before I had only heard snippets here and there), might find this to be of interest.

Desiree says at one point that LE is searching an 11-acre area East of Skyline School.

She says that LE has evidence that Terri was there.

She also says that Terri put everything in writing.

Wow. Thanks for posting that video, Puzzler.
I wonder if she kept an online diary or something for them to know that she wrote everything down.
You'd think with all that they know that an arrest would be imminent.

[akmom]

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Hmmmm, kind of weird

[Puzzler]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/02/fbi_will_dedicate_up_to_six_ag.html

FBI will dedicate up to six agents to help investigate the Kyron Horman disappearance

(snip)  The FBI will be dedicating up to six agents to help with the criminal investigation into the disappearance of Kyron Horman, following a recent review of the local task force's nearly nine-month investigation by FBI agents who specialize in child abduction cases. (snip)

[Puzzler]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/02/fbi_will_dedicate_up_to_six_ag.html

(snip)  "I'm disappointed this isn't over with. I'm disappointed we haven't found this young man," Staton said. "I don't put the blame on our investigators...Everybody who has been involved in this has worked on this case as diligently as possible. We know more about what potentially did happen than we ever did in the past. The biggest hope is we would have found him."

By mid-June, if there's been no arrest, Staton said he will review the task force's progress once again. "One thing I can assure you, if this case stagnates and there's nothing more coming in, we'll have to take a different approach."  (snip)

[cw618]

Desiree says at one point that LE is searching an 11-acre area East of Skyline School.

the eve that kyron was reported missing,i thought they searched that area,for something
like 2-3 days,when they thought he had wandered off,seems like it was raining the whole
time the searchers were looking
JMO
so could there have been a pre dug grave,and it would have been hard to see, in all the new 
mud that the constant rain caused

refresher map
http://tinyurl.com/49cykj3
Desiree pc
http://www.katu.com/home/video/116678914.html

[cw618]

SNIP SNIP
"We're not going to back off on this investigation," Staton said Wednesday. "We may not have it solved, and it may not be to the satisfaction of some, but the fact is they're making progress."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/02/fbi_will_dedicate_up_to_six_ag.html

[Gypsy DD]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/02/fbi_will_dedicate_up_to_six_ag.html

(snip)  "I'm disappointed this isn't over with. I'm disappointed we haven't found this young man," Staton said. "I don't put the blame on our investigators...Everybody who has been involved in this has worked on this case as diligently as possible. We know more about what potentially did happen than we ever did in the past. The biggest hope is we would have found him."

By mid-June, if there's been no arrest, Staton said he will review the task force's progress once again. "One thing I can assure you, if this case stagnates and there's nothing more coming in, we'll have to take a different approach."  (snip)

Thank you for this article Puzzler. 

 I am glad to hear the FBI will be dedicating up to 6 agents full time....I think they will get the job done.

[cw618]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/02/fbi_will_dedicate_up_to_six_ag.html
FBI will dedicate up to six agents to help investigate the Kyron Horman disappearance
Published: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 4:00 AM
 By Maxine Bernstein, The Oregonian
 

SNIP SNIP
Investigators have identified more than 490 people who were at the school June 4, as well as the 54 vehicles parked on the campus that day, Staton said. To do that, they had to examine photographs taken at the school during the science fair, sometimes checking the license plates of cars appearing in the background.

"The actual account of everyone and everything that was on that campus that day, we now know," he said.
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there is that car count again,it says parked on the campus,
and everything that was on that campus that day....so does that
mean other cars parked around the school,like on the road shoulder 
and the church,are not accounted for yet,im just not getting that
car count

[Puzzler]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/02/fbi_will_dedicate_up_to_six_ag.html

(snip)  "I'm disappointed this isn't over with. I'm disappointed we haven't found this young man," Staton said. "I don't put the blame on our investigators...Everybody who has been involved in this has worked on this case as diligently as possible. We know more about what potentially did happen than we ever did in the past. The biggest hope is we would have found him."

By mid-June, if there's been no arrest, Staton said he will review the task force's progress once again. "One thing I can assure you, if this case stagnates and there's nothing more coming in, we'll have to take a different approach."  (snip)

Thank you for this article Puzzler. 

 I am glad to hear the FBI will be dedicating up to 6 agents full time....I think they will get the job done.

I was really glad to hear about the FBI agents being dedicated, too....it renews my hope.

Staton reports he knows the story of the 490+ people at the school that morning and the 54 cars.

With the Task Force continuing to at least mid-June and the "addition" of up to 6 FBI agents, it does make me think that the on-going investigation is about much more than just Terri.  I sure hope so.  I want every single person involved to be brought to justice.

[Puzzler]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/02/fbi_will_dedicate_up_to_six_ag.html
FBI will dedicate up to six agents to help investigate the Kyron Horman disappearance
Published: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 4:00 AM
 By Maxine Bernstein, The Oregonian
 

SNIP SNIP
Investigators have identified more than 490 people who were at the school June 4, as well as the 54 vehicles parked on the campus that day, Staton said. To do that, they had to examine photographs taken at the school during the science fair, sometimes checking the license plates of cars appearing in the background.

"The actual account of everyone and everything that was on that campus that day, we now know," he said.
-------

there is that car count again,it says parked on the campus,
and everything that was on that campus that day....so does that
mean other cars parked around the school,like on the road shoulder 
and the church,are not accounted for yet,im just not getting that
car count

Good question.  They are "defining" it, aren't they.  What about cars that just came for a few minutes and then left?

[Puzzler]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/02/fbi_will_dedicate_up_to_six_ag.html

(snip)   Investigators on the multi-agency Kyron Horman Task Force have subpoenaed more than 300 sets of e-mail, cellular phone and computer records, and have hired private technical specialists, including a cellular phone engineer from California, to assist in their review.

"We've collected those items, and now it's going to take time to get through all of it," Staton said. (snip)

~~~~~~~~~
Okay...300 sets of records.
 
A person would have: computer, cell phone, e-mails (3) items (or would they have more?)
 
Meaning 100 people are being investigated electronically?



How many "people's" records are being investigated?  Very interesting.

[sassifrass]

If anyone is interested in watching the live Multnomah County board meeting on Thursday, which is when Staton will be there, you can watch it on the internet, at the below url. It runs from 9:30am - 12 noon. I'm not sure what time he is up.


http://www2.co.multnomah.or.us/cc/live_broadcast.shtml

Just a note: I believe you have to have Realplayer installed, which you can find here:

http://www.real.com/realplayer

Update: Sheriff Staton will be up first @ 9:30 am PST.

http://www.co.multnomah.or.us/cc/WeeklyAgendaPacket/022411_Agenda.pdf


REGULAR AGENDA
SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT – 9:30 am
R-1 Informational Board Briefing on the Kyron Horman Investigation Task Force. Presenters: Sheriff Dan Staton and Lieutenant Ned Walls. (15 min)

Yes, another update:

The meeting has been changed to 10:30 am.