Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11

[klaasend]

Hey Klaas, I believe Billie's brothers are Del & Roger Ostrander.

Not sure if this is still where Roger lives, but didn't Billie say that her relatives that came over on New Year's Eve stayed with her brother in Snyder? I found this:
http://www.411.com/dir/snyder-tx/ostrander

I looked up the female at that same address - Shanna - and she is married to Roger. Roger is in her pictures on her MySpace a/c. He is the same person in the pictures with Del that Klaas posted a ways back. Here's her MS link:
http://www.myspace.com/shannadea

If this is the uncle that David is staying with, I'm going to run a check on him to see if there's anything in his past. If he comes up clean, I'm sending them a gift card for the grocery store or something.

Side note: Shanna is an LVN. I wonder if she's the sil that Billie called to take her home. They live in Snyder.

YEP - that would be Roger Ostrander and it would be Del and Billie's brother.  I bet the one David is staying with.  Big dude.  Thanks for the link:

[flutter1]

local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie

well, heck this is the entire jist of the email ......


billie and shawn had a 10,000 drug debt that the drug dealers here in snyder were coming to collect, go figure the day hailey turns up missing

O know these things, they did infact have the debt, i worked with Billie and went to church with Hailey.. so i know these things.. and i know shawn too he grew up with my sisters

i believe hailey is still alive.. and this is all for the money.. billie recieved 5 grand per interview she did with nancy grace and she did atleast 5, but i believe that now they cant just bring her out of hiding because thats way to suspicious, i think they are letting us die down on our searching which we WONT do

blah you got to a point i didnt wanna discuss , but yes clints brother was with naomis mother

 
we look worse in our pictures of us searching and on interviews than she ever does.... thats not what is being said in c city, but idk we dont ask for money we are out spending out money and gas for all this... i drive over 100 miles to go ...search due to me now living in lubbock... but we dont ask for money and she has never offered us anything.. clint does come and meet us, prays with us gives us water and buttons that have been made with haileys picture on them.. i have pictures on my page of us out searching if anyone wants to see em

mike, oil fields have to account for all that stuff, but shawns dad works there too and i do know for a fact he is on speed real bad.. so there is no tellin

we have learned about the drug debt through other drug dealers in snyder. so we know the drug debt is true, whether it be the correct 10,000 idk but i do know the drug debt. did yall know that all through this time that BD and SA were meeting up at rattlesnake gap, in her mommas car? she has not once been away from shawn for more than a day! we have caught them ourselves,

 thats fine.. but i worked with Billie and i do know what kind of person she is! i know the drug dealers in snyder, how you ask? because i had a past in college with drugs, yes stupid i know, but i have been clean for 3 years now so i do still have ways to find out stuff

in high school shawn was a sophmore dating a 6th grader he is a creepy individual... they have been to midland partying and staying at a hotel on weekends


i know that for in fact that he would stand in her bedroom door at night, because he did it while at another persons house doing drugs one night to her daughter.. so i know thats true.. billie did and does coke all the time i know the person that she does it with


wish I had saved the link and a woman said she knows the family. She stated that Hailey and Billie got into a fight over Christmas break and BD was choking Haily and Hailey ran to her closet....anyone else hear this?

Okay...if any of these rumors are even remotely true, it needs to be forwarded to LE (if it hasn't already).  LE has the capability of putting pressure on other druggies in the areas without alerting their POI's.  If they know at all what they are doing, they should be able to sniff out who the 'bad debt' was owed to.  There are plenty of snitchies in the druggie world...I don't care where ya live.

Also, if this person has direct knowledge of the fight between Hailey and Billie, the goings on the home, etc, they are prime witness material for a gran jury.

THIS IS NO TIME TO LET RUMORS CONTINUE BREWING...TAKE EVERY TIDBIT YOU HEAR AND USE IT TO FIND HAILEY.  ....Like someone else said...many of the rumors in this case have turned out to have some merit...

I was told they have been, someone sent this to me and it's from a member of Hailey's angels, they "state" they report to LE everyday in both Ccity and d@mn can't remember the other agy but there were two agy's they report too, there was more I didn't post........Allegedly the father of DD is NEVER spoken of by Billie but I get the feeling some know who it is, also the other part if this was that BD never bothered to look decent for work (well, neither do I...here in jeans, bb cap, flip flops and a fleece hoodie) and that now she is doing her hair makeup etc., sorry but if that is true I do find it odd. I remember not even fixing my hair for E's memorial, I washed it left it curly and put it in a clippie, and that was the most I had the energy to do......I remember when I saw the pic's I was thinking D@MN, someone should have had the guts to tell me, but the reality is that was the first time after he passed I even got dressed other than jammies and I even wore those to pick out the flowers etc., also prolly was the first day I took a shower or brushed my teeth. I remember her on NG and thinking, most in that situation looked more like I did than Billie, IIRC Desiree was a mess in the beginning but IMO that is more the norm than those that fix their hair and put makeup on.......anyway, just my two cents after I heard what she looked like on an average day.

I have a few questions.  If BD and SA had a drug debt and this particular person thinks she is alive, where would Hailey be?  Who would be hiding her or taking care of her?

In the same instance, if there is truth to BD trying to choke Hailey around Christmas, then it seems as though BD has some anger issues and it could be that she did something to Hailey.  We've heard a few things about the goings-on at Christmas.  MB's mom said that there was an altercation around Christmas and that Hailey wanted to live with her dad.  An aunt on OK magazine said that Hailey called her crying a day before she disappeared.  What was going on? 

I wish I knew that answer, IIRC on another page I read that did in fact "think" it was possible for her to be alive but on the other hand they are searching areas where you would not find anyone alive, but remains instead of a live child......so, maybe it's just a way to hold onto hope-IDK? We have heard form Byerly or whatever the name was about the volatile household, the grandmother, now the aunt and MB's mom so I tend to believe where there is smoke there is fire and wonder if Shawn was attracted to young girls since this person also posted that in HS he dated a 6th grader when he was a sophmore Totally not normal whatsoever?

It has happened before, of course.   A younger man becomes the "lover" of an older woman just to have access the her daughter, which is his true object.  He has had two years to "groom" Hailey, but I don't think she was interested or weak enough to be taken in by his influence.

[Tamikosmom]

Scurry County Sheriff records.  Note that he bonded out January 1, 2011

January 1, 2011??  Billie stated on Nancy Grace that both her brothers were at her home on New Year's Eve along with aunt, uncle and their grandbaby.

What was Del's offence?

Thanks

Janet

++++++

My Two Brothers Came Over

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 12, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET

GRACE: ... First thing I want to clear up, Ms. Dunn, I have in these documents that I`ve with me and I`ve read them very carefully, that you did, in fact, have a New Year`s Eve party at your home. That would have been within 72 hours of reporting Hailey missing.

BILLIE DUNN: Well, we did not. I know it wasn`t on my mind at all that it was even New Year`s Eve. I had an uncle and aunt, and they brought their grandbaby from out of town. They came up. They stayed at my house Friday during the day. They spent the night at my brother`s. They were back over here Saturday. I think they went home on Sunday. We had family over here. I`ve had a lot of fat of family here. But that weekend, an aunt, an uncle and their grandbaby and my two brothers came over.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/12/ng.01.html

[wildmala]

islandmonkey
and wonder if Shawn was attracted to young girls since this person also posted that in HS he dated a 6th grader when he was a sophmore  Totally not normal whatsoever?
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9372.msg1302576#msg1302576

another little detail ive missed, who the hill would allow that relationship, if this is true,he would be around 15-16yr old,
providing he had not flunked any grades..he he....the girl would be 10=11yr old, just disgusting

Reminds me of Kayleah Wilson here in CO.  I think she was 12 and her boyfriend was like 18.

[starwynn]

Maybe CD had the interview removed because he realized that his info about BD.s drug use and drug sales that he spoke about but left Hailey there could result in him losing Chloe and possibly Naomi's son through CPS.

.... or maybe Clint fears retaliation from Billie or Billie's family who are in the know regarding wrongdoing on his part.

Think about Clint's most recent interview.  He refers to Shawn as sincere and ... he does not undermine Billie.

Janet

+++++

I highly believe it.  While he may say things to the police, I don't believe we're going to hear any more negative about BD and SA from Clint as he's obviously been doing drugs and has a newborn child that he could be kept from when he's already lost his own baby girl.  Sounds like a small town where everyone knows everyone TOO well, and knows their business too well.  Expect to see him publically playing nice-nice.  However, that will NOT change the outcome of the case.

[starwynn]

(snipped for shortness)

Considering my theory implies that Hailey was deceased prior to the rising of the sun on December 27th ... I contend that the text message to Mary Beth at 2:00 PM in the afternoon originated in Big Spring and ... the author was Shawn Adkins.

Janet

++++++

Janet, I completely agree with you on this.  I wish they would finally either find a way to prove that, or at least let us know, but of course they're holding their cards close to the vest.

[Tamikosmom]

Maybe CD had the interview removed because he realized that his info about BD.s drug use and drug sales that he spoke about but left Hailey there could result in him losing Chloe and possibly Naomi's son through CPS.

.... or maybe Clint fears retaliation from Billie or Billie's family who are in the know regarding wrongdoing on his part.

Think about Clint's most recent interview.  He refers to Shawn as sincere and ... he does not undermine Billie.

Janet

+++++

I highly believe it.  While he may say things to the police, I don't believe we're going to hear any more negative about BD and SA from Clint as he's obviously been doing drugs and has a newborn child that he could be kept from when he's already lost his own baby girl.  Sounds like a small town where everyone knows everyone TOO well, and knows their business too well.  Expect to see him publically playing nice-nice.  However, that will NOT change the outcome of the case.

Considering in respective interviews ... Clint and Billie are distancing Shawn from implication in the disappearance of their daughter ... I am counting on those within the investigation to connect the dots.  I believe the connecting dots will reveal the truth and ... justice for Hailey will be realized.

I contend that the origin of the 2:00 PM text message to Mary Beth will be the catalyst and ... Shawn Adkins will be arrested and charged as the main suspect in the Hailey Dunn case with or without a body.

If Billie Dunn is arrested for obstructing the investigation into the disappearance of her daughter ... it will be icing on the cake.

Janet

++++++

VIDEO: Billie Dunn Tries To Dispell Rumors Surrounding Her Daughter's Disappearance
POSTED: 6:26 pm CST January 31, 2011
UPDATED: 10:40 pm CST January 31, 2011

<snipped>

Billie expressed frustration with Police that they have not named other suspects, to which Kampfer responded, "Right now, we have lots of suspicion, things that are put together that lead to a person of interest, Shawn Adkins."

He said at this time Law Enforcement may not want to name anyone else, because they don't want to tip off other persons of interest on their investigation.

He added that Billie Dunn is not a person of interest in her daughter's case.

<snipped>

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=post;topic=9340.920;num_replies=935

[cw618]

are you talking about clint BTR interview,its still up,his talk starts at about 57min into the show
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/03/tonights-show-clint-dunn-speaks-to-set-the-story-straight-and-patty-kreiger-case

[Tamikosmom]

are you talking about clint BTR interview,its still up,his talk starts at about 57min into the show
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/03/tonights-show-clint-dunn-speaks-to-set-the-story-straight-and-patty-kreiger-case

Adkins "Needs to Help Find Hailey" Father Says
Tuesday, February 08 2011

As the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance ends his silence, Hailey's father has something to say about Shawn Adkins.

"Instead of spending money on a lawyer he needs to spend money on trying to find Hailey," said Clint Dunn.

Adkins, Hailey's mother's once live-in boyfriend told KTAB in an exclusive interview that he maintains his innocence, and Clint says although he believes Adkins is sincere.

"He needs to help find Hailey," said Clint, "so he can get the heat off of him."

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339996

[islandmonkey]

Ok, I just remembered something....remember when the dime was dropped on the POI and that is was Brian Glasco, well I posted that Billie stated he wasn't family and this guy IS Hailey's step-uncle and I remember she said that the Mystery Man was someone they had called CPS on....well, this man has no kids so WTF??? Of course his mspace page could be wrong but it did say, paraphrasing here....."love kids-but not for me". So, are we back to cousin Corey 

[klaasend]

IM - personally, I don't believe a word out of Billie's mouth

[Titch]

Ok, I just remembered something....remember when the dime was dropped on the POI and that is was Brian Glasco, well I posted that Billie stated he wasn't family and this guy IS Hailey's step-uncle and I remember she said that the Mystery Man was someone they had called CPS on....well, this man has no kids so WTF??? Of course his mspace page could be wrong but it did say, paraphrasing here....."love kids-but not for me". So, are we back to cousin Corey 

IM, I'm comfused. I never thought Mystery Man was Brian Glasco. I just thought Brian was somebody additionally added to the mix by Billie to help with her smokescreen. I'm gonna have to go back & listen to her stupid interview on BTR now. It was hard enough listening to the interviewers pampering her, let alone listening to her actually speaking. She grates on my stinkin' nerves...literally.

[Titch]

Casey - habitual liar...changes story to fit her needs

Misty - habitual liar...changes story to fit her needs

Terri - habitual liar...changes story to fit her needs

Billie - habitual liar...changes story to fit her needs

[Tamikosmom]

If this doesn't work can someone please delete it? I fixed it - please note "R" rated language.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/H_W6qHsaT1I" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Titch

In my opinion ... Billie is not the only liar in the Hailey Dunn case.  Could it be the drugs?  They are all full of it.

Janet

+++++

Saturday, February 05, 2011
EXCLUSIVE: Billie Jean Dunn Revealed
 
by Peter Hyatt

Clint said that Billie was, early on, anti drug, in particular, against his use of marijuana, which he says he takes for pain rather than narcotics. Billie did, however, begin to take hydrocodone when they were together, though she had no pain, and likely increased her drug use greatly in the past two years with Shawn, who she has been with far longer than she likes to report. Just one week after kicking Clint out, Hailey told him that Shawn was spending the night there. He said she took it just "to get high" and didn't need it for any injury or painful condition.

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html

[Cappuccino]

IM - personally, I don't believe a word out of Billie's mouth

Im with you on that, as if I had to clarify that point 

[cecilita]

hi, dear monkeys, i think the crime books that billi and shawn were reading will tell us where is hailey

[Titch]

If this doesn't work can someone please delete it? I fixed it - please note "R" rated language.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/H_W6qHsaT1I" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Titch

In my opinion ... Billie is not the only liar in the Hailey Dunn case.  Could it be the drugs?  They are all full of it.

Janet

+++++

Saturday, February 05, 2011
EXCLUSIVE: Billie Jean Dunn Revealed
 
by Peter Hyatt

Clint said that Billie was, early on, anti drug, in particular, against his use of marijuana, which he says he takes for pain rather than narcotics. Billie did, however, begin to take hydrocodone when they were together, though she had no pain, and likely increased her drug use greatly in the past two years with Shawn, who she has been with far longer than she likes to report. Just one week after kicking Clint out, Hailey told him that Shawn was spending the night there. He said she took it just "to get high" and didn't need it for any injury or painful condition.

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html

Gosh Janet, I totally agree with you. When I was referencing marijuana, & informed I don't really have a problem with anyone doing it, I wasn't referring to an addict. I was referriong to social use...like somebody that drinks alcohol but isn't an alcoholic...kwim? I know it's against the law, but I personally think it should be legalized & taxed like alcohol is. I think it should be regulated like alcohol is, laws in place for driving while under the influence, etc. I know many people wouldn't agree with that, but I studied about it in school - our whole class was divided on this issue. Fact remains that nowadays it's not all natural, that other chemicals are added to the soil and/or roots to make the toxicity greater, therefore helping to create an addiction...such as in the way nicotine is. I don't want to turn this into something political as this is Hailey's thread, but research Vietnam and stuff that was given to our servicemen for free by our govt. They helped to create the worldwide spread of this. Basically, what it boils down to is this: Anything in abundance is bad for you, unless it's love & laughter, lol.

I simply thought Clint could be a pothead. He said he did stuff before, he obviously still tokes bc he was arrested when found with a small bud after Hailey went missing. Billie and Shawn do drugs and the affidavits/warrants as well as released videos prove that. Looks like several people in Hailey's immediate circle don't have their stuff together, which is such a shame if you ask me. When I look at the video with Clint & Brian, I notice the upload date as Dec of 2009. Well wasn't he arrested right after that according to his record?

I want to know more about Billie and the info coming about regarding drug sale and/or use. She brought Shawn into the picture. She had residential custody of David & Hailey. By her own words, she did everything for her kids bc Clint was basically a good-for-nothing dad. Well, if she can take the credit for doing everything in the world for them, providing a roof, clothes, meals, having them involved in sports, good grades, etc - then certainly she should take the blame for being neglectful. As it turns out, these kids were raising themselves it seems like...nobody to answer to, just let mom know where they'll be, etc.

Something is bugging me. I know when I say this it'll make you think the same as I - question the same thing I am. Well...Why did Billie provide a cheer picture of Hailey to the police to put out to the public instead of a picture from Facebook or MySpace that is more recent? Instead, she provided a cheer picture. She stated herself that Hailey cheered bc she encouraged it, that Hailey didn't really mind it but it wasn't her favorite, etc. Well why? I thought Hailey really loved softball... Hailey is built different than Billie. Could Billie have had a problem with that, trying to mold & perfect her, make her like something that Hailey really didn't? Why not encourage her to do something she already likes doing, support her in her decisions, etc? David plays football. Did Billie want the "football" son and the "cheerleader" daughter bc she thought it looked better? For all intents & purposes, Hailey is a great student with a great personality - according to many people including her teachers & principal. That is enough to be proud of in my eyes. Hailey is 5 or 5'1 & weighs 120. I am 5'5 & weigh 128. When I was her age, I looked like a mosquito lol bc of my long legs...I weighed I believe about 90 & was 5'3 at 13 years old. This is only an example, nobody slam me please. I'm just wondering if maybe Hailey felt inferior as well as not good enough. Why the cheerleading picture, I just can't get over it.

One thing I do believe. I think David & Hailey are good kids that will grow up to be great parents. Afterall, look at them now. They basically raised themselves it appears. That is, if Hailey's still out there...alive. I pray she is, although my mind doesn't think it. At this point, it would take a miracle.

[Cappuccino]

hi, dear monkeys, i think the crime books that billi and shawn were reading will tell us where is hailey

Ya know Cecilita, you may be on to something...there may be a hint within those pages.

[Titch]

hi, dear monkeys, i think the crime books that billi and shawn were reading will tell us where is hailey

Ya know Cecilita, you may be on to something...there may be a hint within those pages.

I agree. Plus the papers listed in the affidavits may not even be all of the cases researched... Jeesh, there's no telling...

[islandmonkey]

IM - personally, I don't believe a word out of Billie's mouth

 

ITA.......except short tidbit, when they asked her if Hailey and Shawn had issues and she stated "not now", well that I do believe, other than that IMO she is a lying narcisisstic skank